The Official Michael Regan NBA GOAT Rankings – Another Big Chunk of Work

We’re picking up with advanced stats. I was having trouble getting this part onto the original article, so that was probably a sign to both give up on having just one and also to be more concise here. There’s a lot to say about advanced metrics and what they’re worth, but most of that is beyond our scope. What matters is two things.

1) Advanced metrics are useful and important. They take the separate areas of the game that we’ve been running through and combine them into one number. It’s worth noting that not every advanced metric has the same exact goal or output – PER, for example, is essentially an attempt to measure how efficient a player is at producing some sort of measurable output on the court (hence Player Efficiency Rating) – but the general idea of better players will tend to have a higher number in this overall metric tends to hold true. There is obviously no such thing as a perfect formula – as the existence of so many different metrics that have the same overarching goal would suggest – but they do give us a perfectly adequate way of determining player impact. Let’s take a look at this year’s top 10 in various advanced stats –

PER: Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, LeBron, KD, Trae, Luka, Gobert, Ja, KAT

Win Shares: Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Gobert, KAT, Trae, Robert Williams, Tatum, Paul, Jimmy

BPM: Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, LeBron, KD, Jimmy, Ja, Steph, Robert Williams

VORP: Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, LeBron, KD, Trae, Tatum, Steph, Dejounte Murray

That’s a pretty solid picture of who the best and most consistent guys were during this year’s regular season. You’d be hard pressed to find someone arguing against a top three of Jokic, Giannis, and Embiid with guys like Luka, LeBron, KD, Jimmy, Trae, and Steph in the next tier. Rudy Gobert helping lift up what is largely a corpse of a defense without him and then playing very efficient (though certainly limited) basketball on the other end is going to give him an edge in these metrics even if you wouldn’t necessarily pick him to start your franchise. Again, the stats aren’t perfect, but they do a pretty dang good job of separating the cream of the crop at the top and giving us gradients to follow all the way down.

2) We will only be using win shares (and the various ways we can manipulate or split up that stat) and PER. There’s a very simple reason for this; they’re the only ones that go back past 1974. We’ve done some maneuvering for other stats like turnovers, blocks, steals, and three-point percentages to still include those, but this is a bit of a different beast. I’d love to use VORP and BPM; it just doesn’t make sense to put a bunch of players in the middle on a stat of overall impact (unlike a smaller and distinct area of the game like three-point shooting) when we have a decent idea of the area they’d probably be in. It’s not fair to someone like Wilt to stick him in 75th in BPM while some of the guys he’s competing with at the top are getting their full due, especially since these are stats that we’d like to attribute a little more importance to than steal percentage or turnovers per game. The only advanced metrics that we can properly use and value are win shares and PER, so we’ll use those and take it as it is rather than trying to mess around with metrics that we don’t have full access to. This is the main reason why the advanced metric categories aren’t getting too many goat points. There just aren’t that many that we have at our disposal.

Offensive Advanced Metrics (3)

Subcategories:

• Offensive Win Shares (2)
• Offensive Win Shares per 48 (1)

A few notes here. I will do my best to not butcher the explanation:

• A win share is just what it sounds like – an attempt to measure how many wins a player is responsible for helping their team get. The formula used to match up with real wins exactly (so the players of a team with 50 wins would have a cumulative win share total of 50), but the updated figures will align closely rather than matching exactly with that real wins number.

• Negative win shares do exist, but don’t take that to mean that 0 is the average. The vast majority of players will have a positive output here since we’re obviously adding up towards a win number that is very positive, even for pretty bad teams.

• There is a team component to this – the more your team wins, the more win shares that are available. Of course, you can also take this in a loop. The teams that win more have more win shares but they also have the better players who deserve more win shares but they also play on the better teams that win more and…It is certainly true that Robert Williams would have more win shares in Boston than he would if you just put him on the Rockets roster. It’s easier to do the job when you have more talent around you. But the better players, which is a lot of the guys we’re looking at, will hit their spots on the advanced metrics regardless. Just look at Trae in Atlanta. Does he have more win shares on a better team? Possibly. Does he still have a lot of win shares on a very mediocre team because his offensive impact is massive regardless? Yes. Might it actually be smaller on a better team since there are more players capable of sharing the load? Potentially.

• Win shares, like VORP, are a cumulative stat, which means that they build over time. Think of the difference between total points (something like win shares) and points per game (something like BPM). Two players can both have 100 career win shares, but it might have taken the first guy 10,000 more minutes to get there. So there is a clear component of longevity woven in here, and, to help balance that out, we will also look at offensive win shares per 48 minutes. That is not a widely available stat, so I will be calculating it myself. All that takes is messing around with a few columns of data to do some division, but it’s worth noting just to mention that, like with minutes played, there might be a slight rounding error. The guy who’s supposed to be in 55th will still be in 55th. He might just have 0.123 offensive win shares per 48 instead of 0.122.

• I won’t waste time trying to explain the offensive win shares formula. It’s not going to help me or you. Better explanations are out there if you want to work through them. But we are essentially taking various simple counting stats (like points) to measure individual points produced and then comparing it to various league standards of pace and offensive output to get our result.

Could we theoretically adjust for era here? Probably. Is that something that I could figure out how to do? Absolutely not. To offensive win shares we go. There are two goat points at stake (Mark Eaton finished with negative offensive win shares and is going to lose goat points here which is tough but probably fair) –

Player	OWS	GOAT POINTS
Kareem	178.9	2.00
LeBron	173.9	1.94
Wilt	153.3	1.71
Oscar	152	1.70
MJ	149.9	1.68
Chris Paul	144.9	1.62
Dirk	143.8	1.61
Stockton	142.8	1.60
Karl Malone	142.2	1.59
Reggie	140.4	1.57
Jerry West	124.6	1.39
Chuck	123.3	1.38
Kobe	122.1	1.37
Moses	118.6	1.33
Shaq	115.4	1.29
Artis Gilmore	114.1	1.28
Nash	113.7	1.27
Harden	112.1	1.25
Ray Allen	111.7	1.25
Adrian Dantley	111.4	1.25
KD	111.1	1.24
Dan Issel	110.8	1.24
Magic	110.6	1.24
Dr J	107.3	1.20
Walt Bellamy	103.3	1.15
Tim Duncan	100	1.12
KG	99.9	1.12
David Robinson	98.5	1.10
Gary Payton	96.7	1.08
Chauncey	92.4	1.03
Bob Pettit	91.8	1.03
Pau	89.9	1.01
Rick Barry	89.2	1.00
George Gervin	87.7	0.98
Steph	87.6	0.98
Paul Pierce	86.9	0.97
Larry	86.8	0.97
Dolph Schayes	86.2	0.96
Clyde Drexler	85.6	0.96
Ed Macauley	84.4	0.94
Bailey Howell	83.8	0.94
Dominique	82.3	0.92
Paul Arizin	82.1	0.92
Vince	80.7	0.90
Dame	78.6	0.88
Chet Walker	78.4	0.88
Alex English	77.6	0.87
Jeff Hornacek	76.6	0.86
Detlef Schrempf	76.4	0.85
McHale	76	0.85
Bob Lanier	75.4	0.84
Robert Parish	74	0.83
D Wade	73.3	0.82
LaMarcus Aldridge	72.9	0.81
Terry Porter	71.9	0.80
Melo	70.8	0.79
Jason Terry	70.4	0.79
Kevin Johnson	70.4	0.79
George Mikan	70	0.78
Zelmo Beaty	70	0.78
Kyle Lowry	69.8	0.78
Andre Miller	69.5	0.78
Mullin	69.2	0.77
Walt Frazier	69.1	0.77
Horace Grant	69	0.77
Bosh	68.8	0.77
Hakeem	68.3	0.76
Elton Brand	65.8	0.74
Tony Parker	65.8	0.74
Dwight	65.6	0.73
Tiny Archibald	65.4	0.73
Larry Nance	65	0.73
Hal Greer	64.9	0.73
Jimmy	63.7	0.71
Shawn Marion	63.6	0.71
Elgin Baylor	63.6	0.71
Jerry Lucas	63.6	0.71
Kidd	63.4	0.71
Sam Perkins	62.3	0.70
Otis Thorpe	61.6	0.69
Grant Hill	61.5	0.69
Sidney Moncrief	61.4	0.69
Bill Sharman	61.4	0.69
Mo Cheeks	60.9	0.68
AI	60.9	0.68
T-Mac	60.9	0.68
Lenny Wilkens	60.2	0.67
K Love	60.2	0.67
Russ	60.1	0.67
Manu	59	0.66
Buck Williams	58.3	0.65
AC Green	58.3	0.65
Pippen	57.8	0.65
Tim Hardaway	57.7	0.65
John Havlicek	57.6	0.64
Jokic	57.2	0.64
Eddie Jones	57.1	0.64
AD	56.9	0.64
Joe Johnson	56.5	0.63
Tyson Chandler	56.3	0.63
Bob McAdoo	56.3	0.63
Bill Laimbeer	56.2	0.63
Horford	55.5	0.62
Kyrie	54	0.60
Giannis	53.8	0.60
Marques Johnson	53	0.59
Blake	52	0.58
Mark Price	51.9	0.58
Jack Sikma	51.8	0.58
James Worthy	51.5	0.58
Earl Monroe	50.9	0.57
Iggy	50.8	0.57
Bobby Jones	50.8	0.57
David Thompson	49.9	0.56
Millsap	49.7	0.56
Kawhi	49.5	0.55
Rod Strickland	49	0.55
Gobert	48.6	0.54
Sam Jones	48.6	0.54
Dikembe	48.5	0.54
Sheed Wallace	48	0.54
KAT	47.7	0.53
Wes Unseld	46	0.51
Ewing	45	0.50
Dave Bing	45	0.50
Vlade Divac	43.5	0.49
Marc Gasol	42.9	0.48
Willis Reed	42.6	0.48
Alonzo Mourning	41.8	0.47
IT	41.2	0.46
Billy Cunningham	40.9	0.46
AK47	40.7	0.46
Bob Cousy	40.6	0.45
Terrell Brandon	40.1	0.45
Elvin Hayes	37.1	0.41
CWebb	36.9	0.41
Yao	36.7	0.41
Paul George	35.4	0.40
Dennis Rodman	35.4	0.40
Doc Rivers	35.3	0.39
Clifford Robinson	33.8	0.38
Mookie Blaylock	33.3	0.37
Pistol Pete	30.6	0.34
Dave Cowens	30.5	0.34
Bill Russell	29.9	0.33
Fat Lever	29.4	0.33
Klay	28.6	0.32
D Rose	26.9	0.30
Tree Rollins	21.7	0.24
Alvin Robertson	21.2	0.24
Rajon Rondo	19.9	0.22
Nate McMillan	19.2	0.21
Dray	17.4	0.19
Nate Thurmond	15.8	0.18
Bill Walton	14.7	0.16
Dave DeBusschere	13.1	0.15
Mark Eaton	-3.2	-0.04

Next up is offensive win shares per 48. This is a pretty simple calculation. We take total minutes played and divide it by 48. We then take total offensive win shares and divide it by the new minutes number to get offensive win shares per 48 minutes. There is one goat point on the line.

Player	OWS P 48	GOAT POINTS
George Mikan	0.222	1.00
Ed Macauley	0.177	0.80
MJ	0.175	0.79
Chris Paul	0.175	0.79
Jokic	0.171	0.77
Oscar	0.166	0.75
Harden	0.165	0.74
Jerry West	0.164	0.74
LeBron	0.160	0.72
Magic	0.160	0.72
Adrian Dantley	0.156	0.70
KD	0.154	0.70
Wilt	0.154	0.69
Chuck	0.150	0.68
Kareem	0.150	0.67
Steph	0.148	0.67
Dame	0.146	0.66
Paul Arizin	0.144	0.65
Bob Pettit	0.143	0.65
Stockton	0.143	0.65
Nash	0.143	0.65
Reggie	0.141	0.64
KAT	0.139	0.63
David Robinson	0.138	0.62
Kevin Johnson	0.135	0.61
Chauncey	0.135	0.61
Dirk	0.134	0.60
Jimmy	0.134	0.60
Shaq	0.132	0.60
Kawhi	0.132	0.59
Bailey Howell	0.131	0.59
AD	0.131	0.59
Bill Sharman	0.130	0.58
Walt Bellamy	0.127	0.57
Dan Issel	0.127	0.57
Gobert	0.127	0.57
Sidney Moncrief	0.127	0.57
Kyrie	0.125	0.56
Karl Malone	0.124	0.56
David Thompson	0.123	0.56
McHale	0.121	0.55
Larry	0.121	0.54
Dolph Schayes	0.121	0.54
Giannis	0.121	0.54
Kobe	0.121	0.54
George Gervin	0.118	0.53
Artis Gilmore	0.116	0.52
Ray Allen	0.116	0.52
Mark Price	0.115	0.52
K Love	0.115	0.52
Moses	0.115	0.52
Dr J	0.114	0.51
Zelmo Beaty	0.113	0.51
Bob Lanier	0.113	0.51
Chet Walker	0.113	0.51
Rick Barry	0.112	0.51
Yao	0.112	0.50
Clyde Drexler	0.109	0.49
Detlef Schrempf	0.109	0.49
Jeff Hornacek	0.108	0.49
Marques Johnson	0.107	0.48
Walt Frazier	0.107	0.48
Manu	0.105	0.48
Pau	0.105	0.47
Blake	0.105	0.47
Dominique	0.104	0.47
Mullin	0.103	0.47
Bosh	0.103	0.47
Kyle Lowry	0.103	0.46
Larry Nance	0.102	0.46
Tim Duncan	0.101	0.46
Tiny Archibald	0.101	0.45
Gary Payton	0.098	0.44
D Wade	0.098	0.44
Alex English	0.098	0.44
Terry Porter	0.097	0.44
LaMarcus Aldridge	0.096	0.43
Sam Jones	0.096	0.43
Bob McAdoo	0.096	0.43
T-Mac	0.095	0.43
KG	0.095	0.43
Bobby Jones	0.095	0.43
Jerry Lucas	0.095	0.43
Paul Pierce	0.091	0.41
Tim Hardaway	0.090	0.41
Elton Brand	0.090	0.41
Elgin Baylor	0.090	0.41
Terrell Brandon	0.089	0.40
Willis Reed	0.089	0.40
Horford	0.087	0.39
Horace Grant	0.086	0.39
Tyson Chandler	0.085	0.38
Grant Hill	0.085	0.38
Mo Cheeks	0.084	0.38
Eddie Jones	0.084	0.38
Vince	0.084	0.38
Andre Miller	0.083	0.37
Tony Parker	0.083	0.37
Earl Monroe	0.082	0.37
James Worthy	0.082	0.37
AK47	0.082	0.37
Sam Perkins	0.082	0.37
Russ	0.081	0.37
Jason Terry	0.080	0.36
Dwight	0.080	0.36
Bill Laimbeer	0.079	0.36
Millsap	0.078	0.35
Hal Greer	0.078	0.35
Melo	0.078	0.35
AI	0.078	0.35
Robert Parish	0.078	0.35
Alonzo Mourning	0.077	0.35
AC Green	0.077	0.34
Shawn Marion	0.076	0.34
Lenny Wilkens	0.076	0.34
Otis Thorpe	0.074	0.33
Hakeem	0.074	0.33
Billy Cunningham	0.073	0.33
Doc Rivers	0.072	0.32
Marc Gasol	0.072	0.32
Rod Strickland	0.070	0.32
Paul George	0.069	0.31
Pippen	0.067	0.30
Jack Sikma	0.067	0.30
Buck Williams	0.066	0.30
Dave Bing	0.066	0.30
Klay	0.064	0.29
Sheed Wallace	0.064	0.29
Dikembe	0.063	0.28
Iggy	0.062	0.28
Vlade Divac	0.062	0.28
Wes Unseld	0.062	0.28
Joe Johnson	0.061	0.28
Kidd	0.061	0.27
D Rose	0.061	0.27
Pistol Pete	0.060	0.27
Bob Cousy	0.060	0.27
John Havlicek	0.059	0.27
Fat Lever	0.059	0.27
Dennis Rodman	0.059	0.27
CWebb	0.057	0.26
IT	0.056	0.25
Bill Walton	0.053	0.24
Ewing	0.053	0.24
Mookie Blaylock	0.052	0.23
Dave Cowens	0.050	0.22
Nate McMillan	0.045	0.20
Tree Rollins	0.043	0.20
Dray	0.043	0.19
Alvin Robertson	0.041	0.19
Clifford Robinson	0.038	0.17
Elvin Hayes	0.036	0.16
Bill Russell	0.035	0.16
Rajon Rondo	0.033	0.15
Nate Thurmond	0.021	0.10
Dave DeBusschere	0.020	0.09
Mark Eaton	-0.006	-0.03

Our overall leaderboard for offensive win shares, which we can still pretend is offensive advanced metrics because technically it is –

Player	OAM GOAT POINTS
Kareem	2.67
LeBron	2.66
MJ	2.47
Oscar	2.45
Wilt	2.41
Chris Paul	2.41
Stockton	2.24
Dirk	2.21
Reggie	2.21
Karl Malone	2.15
Jerry West	2.13
Chuck	2.06
Harden	2.00
Magic	1.96
Adrian Dantley	1.95
KD	1.94
Nash	1.92
Kobe	1.91
Shaq	1.89
Moses	1.84
Dan Issel	1.81
Artis Gilmore	1.80
George Mikan	1.78
Ray Allen	1.77
Ed Macauley	1.74
Walt Bellamy	1.73
David Robinson	1.72
Dr J	1.71
Bob Pettit	1.67
Steph	1.65
Chauncey	1.64
Tim Duncan	1.57
Paul Arizin	1.57
KG	1.55
Dame	1.54
Bailey Howell	1.53
Gary Payton	1.52
Larry	1.52
George Gervin	1.51
Dolph Schayes	1.51
Rick Barry	1.50
Pau	1.48
Clyde Drexler	1.45
Jokic	1.41
McHale	1.40
Kevin Johnson	1.39
Dominique	1.39
Chet Walker	1.38
Paul Pierce	1.38
Bob Lanier	1.35
Detlef Schrempf	1.35
Jeff Hornacek	1.34
Jimmy	1.32
Alex English	1.31
Zelmo Beaty	1.29
Vince	1.28
Bill Sharman	1.27
D Wade	1.26
Sidney Moncrief	1.26
Walt Frazier	1.26
LaMarcus Aldridge	1.25
Kyle Lowry	1.24
Terry Porter	1.24
Mullin	1.24
Bosh	1.23
AD	1.23
K Love	1.19
Tiny Archibald	1.18
Larry Nance	1.18
Robert Parish	1.18
Kyrie	1.17
KAT	1.16
Horace Grant	1.16
Andre Miller	1.15
Jason Terry	1.15
Kawhi	1.15
Giannis	1.15
Melo	1.14
Elton Brand	1.14
Jerry Lucas	1.14
Manu	1.13
Elgin Baylor	1.12
Gobert	1.12
David Thompson	1.11
T-Mac	1.11
Tony Parker	1.11
Mark Price	1.10
Hakeem	1.10
Dwight	1.09
Hal Greer	1.08
Marques Johnson	1.08
Grant Hill	1.07
Sam Perkins	1.06
Bob McAdoo	1.06
Mo Cheeks	1.06
Shawn Marion	1.05
Blake	1.05
Tim Hardaway	1.05
Russ	1.04
AI	1.03
Otis Thorpe	1.02
Lenny Wilkens	1.02
Eddie Jones	1.01
Tyson Chandler	1.01
Horford	1.01
AC Green	1.00
Bobby Jones	1.00
Bill Laimbeer	0.99
Kidd	0.98
Sam Jones	0.98
Pippen	0.95
Buck Williams	0.95
James Worthy	0.95
Earl Monroe	0.94
Yao	0.91
John Havlicek	0.91
Joe Johnson	0.91
Millsap	0.91
Jack Sikma	0.88
Willis Reed	0.88
Rod Strickland	0.86
Terrell Brandon	0.85
Iggy	0.85
Dikembe	0.83
AK47	0.82
Sheed Wallace	0.82
Alonzo Mourning	0.82
Marc Gasol	0.80
Dave Bing	0.80
Wes Unseld	0.79
Billy Cunningham	0.79
Vlade Divac	0.76
Ewing	0.74
Bob Cousy	0.72
Doc Rivers	0.72
IT	0.71
Paul George	0.70
CWebb	0.67
Dennis Rodman	0.66
Pistol Pete	0.61
Klay	0.61
Mookie Blaylock	0.60
Fat Lever	0.60
Elvin Hayes	0.58
D Rose	0.57
Dave Cowens	0.56
Clifford Robinson	0.55
Bill Russell	0.49
Tree Rollins	0.44
Alvin Robertson	0.42
Nate McMillan	0.42
Bill Walton	0.40
Dray	0.39
Rajon Rondo	0.37
Nate Thurmond	0.27
Dave DeBusschere	0.24
Mark Eaton	-0.06

And our new cumulative leaderboard through eight categories –

Player	TOTAL GOAT POINTS
LeBron	27.25
Wilt	26.78
Kareem	26.31
Karl Malone	25.64
MJ	24.96
Stockton	24.73
Dirk	24.54
KG	24.51
Chris Paul	24.38
Tim Duncan	24.14
Chuck	24.06
Oscar	24.00
Kobe	23.99
Dr J	23.94
Larry	23.76
Shaq	23.75
Hakeem	23.74
Magic	23.58
Moses	23.54
Kidd	23.47
Artis Gilmore	23.36
David Robinson	23.34
KD	23.03
Harden	22.93
Reggie	22.56
Gary Payton	22.48
Russ	22.46
Paul Pierce	22.43
Pau	22.34
Clyde Drexler	22.21
Dwight	22.13
Ray Allen	22.10
Jerry West	22.09
Walt Bellamy	22.08
Nash	22.04
Bob Pettit	21.96
Rick Barry	21.95
Elvin Hayes	21.90
Vince	21.79
Dan Issel	21.78
Steph	21.77
AI	21.67
Dominique	21.59
Pippen	21.54
Bill Russell	21.53
Robert Parish	21.53
Ewing	21.45
D Wade	21.43
Shawn Marion	21.39
Melo	21.34
Dolph Schayes	21.18
John Havlicek	21.16
Elgin Baylor	21.13
AD	21.00
T-Mac	20.75
CWebb	20.71
Bob Lanier	20.70
Jokic	20.69
George Gervin	20.61
Jack Sikma	20.60
LaMarcus Aldridge	20.57
Jerry Lucas	20.57
Giannis	20.51
George Mikan	20.44
Terry Porter	20.33
Tim Hardaway	20.25
Alex English	20.25
Andre Miller	20.24
Dame	20.24
Chauncey	20.19
Jason Terry	20.18
IT	20.16
Bosh	20.14
Elton Brand	20.08
K Love	20.07
Kyle Lowry	20.05
Buck Williams	20.04
Grant Hill	20.03
Adrian Dantley	19.99
Jeff Hornacek	19.97
Joe Johnson	19.96
Mullin	19.90
Wes Unseld	19.89
KAT	19.87
Horford	19.84
Iggy	19.83
Dikembe	19.81
Tony Parker	19.80
Detlef Schrempf	19.75
Lenny Wilkens	19.74
Vlade Divac	19.73
Nate Thurmond	19.71
Sheed Wallace	19.70
Bill Laimbeer	19.68
Bailey Howell	19.66
Larry Nance	19.65
Sam Perkins	19.63
Kevin Johnson	19.62
Horace Grant	19.62
Clifford Robinson	19.57
Paul Arizin	19.56
Rod Strickland	19.54
Chet Walker	19.52
Hal Greer	19.51
Millsap	19.49
Mookie Blaylock	19.48
Billy Cunningham	19.46
Bob Cousy	19.45
McHale	19.41
Mo Cheeks	19.37
Bob McAdoo	19.26
Eddie Jones	19.25
Jimmy	19.25
Otis Thorpe	19.22
Alonzo Mourning	19.20
Ed Macauley	19.16
Blake	19.12
Manu	19.08
Kawhi	19.08
Marc Gasol	19.04
Paul George	19.00
AC Green	19.00
Kyrie	18.94
Dave Bing	18.84
Zelmo Beaty	18.83
Dave Cowens	18.73
Mark Price	18.72
Gobert	18.72
Tiny Archibald	18.65
Walt Frazier	18.57
Fat Lever	18.53
AK47	18.49
Tyson Chandler	18.46
Willis Reed	18.46
Dennis Rodman	18.34
Rajon Rondo	18.29
James Worthy	18.29
Dave DeBusschere	18.25
Marques Johnson	18.15
Terrell Brandon	18.00
Alvin Robertson	17.98
Sidney Moncrief	17.87
Bobby Jones	17.74
Pistol Pete	17.71
Bill Sharman	17.67
Yao	17.65
Doc Rivers	17.57
Sam Jones	17.48
David Thompson	17.30
Dray	17.22
D Rose	17.09
Nate McMillan	16.69
Klay	16.68
Bill Walton	16.63
Earl Monroe	16.60
Tree Rollins	16.26
Mark Eaton	15.42

Some notes –

• MJ makes his move back into the top 5 after falling to 10th
• LeBron holds and even increases his lead
• Chris Paul joins the top 10
• Steph up 8 spots to 41, Jokic up 6 to 58, Dame moves up roughly twenty spots and back into top 70. Giannis and AD stand relatively still
• George Mikan rejoins the top 65 with a leap of 30 spots
• Some big names outside the top 100 as we sit right around the halfway spot in terms of number of categories: Kawhi (119), Kyrie (123), Walt Frazier (130), Willis Reed (134), Dennis Rodman (135), Pete Maravich (144), Draymond (150), Klay (153)

Defensive Advanced Metrics (3)

Subcategories:

• Defensive Win Shares (2)
• Defensive Win Shares per 48 (1)

Switch offense for defense, and we’ll be doing the exact same thing here. Defensive advanced metrics are notoriously tricky since they often rely on steals, blocks, rebounds, and other simple counting stats that aren’t necessarily indicative of strong defense on their own. Defense, more than offense, is a role-based proposition where the greatest efforts might come from those that don’t necessarily reap statistical benefits or even pretty highlights. But this is what we have, so we’ll use it. There is still something to be said for these metrics, even if they aren’t perfect. Something being difficult to measure isn’t an excuse to toss out attempts to do so entirely, which people from a variety of perspectives can do with defensive metrics.

We’ll start with simple career defensive win shares.

Player	DWS	GOAT POINTS
Bill Russell	133.6	2
Tim Duncan	106.3	1.59
Kareem	94.5	1.41
Hakeem	94.5	1.41
Wilt	93.9	1.41
Karl Malone	92.4	1.38
KG	91.5	1.37
Elvin Hayes	83.7	1.25
Ewing	81.4	1.22
David Robinson	80.1	1.20
Dwight	76.2	1.14
LeBron	75.6	1.13
Artis Gilmore	75.5	1.13
Kidd	75.1	1.12
John Havlicek	74.1	1.11
Dr J	73.8	1.10
Robert Parish	73	1.09
Dikembe	68.5	1.03
Pippen	67.3	1.01
Shaq	66.4	0.99
Stockton	64.9	0.97
MJ	64.1	0.96
Wes Unseld	64.1	0.96
Paul Pierce	63.1	0.94
Dirk	62.6	0.94
Nate Thurmond	62.2	0.93
Buck Williams	61.8	0.93
Shawn Marion	61.3	0.92
Jack Sikma	60.7	0.91
Moses	60.5	0.91
Larry	59	0.88
Sheed Wallace	57.1	0.85
Dolph Schayes	56.1	0.84
Clifford Robinson	55.9	0.84
Dave Cowens	55.8	0.84
Dennis Rodman	54.5	0.82
Pau	54.1	0.81
Chris Paul	54	0.81
Chuck	53.9	0.81
Vlade Divac	52.9	0.79
Kobe	50.7	0.76
Bob Cousy	50.5	0.76
Clyde Drexler	49.9	0.75
Iggy	49.4	0.74
Horace Grant	49.3	0.74
Bill Laimbeer	49.3	0.74
Gary Payton	48.9	0.73
Mark Eaton	48	0.72
Alonzo Mourning	48	0.72
CWebb	47.8	0.72
Dave DeBusschere	47.7	0.71
D Wade	47.4	0.71
Manu	47.4	0.71
Dan Issel	47	0.70
Russ	46.3	0.69
Tyson Chandler	45.8	0.69
Millsap	45.7	0.68
Tony Parker	45.5	0.68
Magic	45.2	0.68
Otis Thorpe	44.8	0.67
Horford	44.8	0.67
Vince	44.6	0.67
Larry Nance	44.6	0.67
Walt Frazier	44.5	0.67
Bob Pettit	44.2	0.66
KD	44.1	0.66
Elton Brand	43.8	0.66
Sam Jones	43.7	0.65
Eddie Jones	43.5	0.65
Bobby Jones	43.2	0.65
Sam Perkins	43	0.64
LaMarcus Aldridge	42.8	0.64
Mo Cheeks	42.6	0.64
Marc Gasol	42.4	0.63
Tree Rollins	42.1	0.63
Rajon Rondo	41.9	0.63
Bob Lanier	41.7	0.62
AC Green	41.2	0.62
Paul George	41.2	0.62
Elgin Baylor	40.5	0.61
Rick Barry	39.7	0.59
IT	39.5	0.59
Chet Walker	38.9	0.58
George Mikan	38.7	0.58
Terry Porter	38.5	0.58
Grant Hill	38.5	0.58
Mookie Blaylock	38.5	0.58
AI	38.1	0.57
Jerry West	37.9	0.57
Gobert	37.9	0.57
Melo	37.8	0.57
Hal Greer	37.7	0.56
Billy Cunningham	37.7	0.56
Harden	37.5	0.56
Oscar	37.2	0.56
Bosh	37.2	0.56
McHale	37.1	0.56
Rod Strickland	36.8	0.55
T-Mac	36.4	0.54
Zelmo Beaty	36	0.54
Lenny Wilkens	35.4	0.53
Dray	35.3	0.53
Dominique	35.1	0.53
Kyle Lowry	34.8	0.52
Jerry Lucas	34.8	0.52
AK47	34.7	0.52
AD	34.3	0.51
Reggie	34	0.51
Kawhi	33.8	0.51
Giannis	33.7	0.50
Ray Allen	33.4	0.50
Detlef Schrempf	33.1	0.50
Doc Rivers	32.9	0.49
Bob McAdoo	32.8	0.49
Steph	32.7	0.49
Willis Reed	32.4	0.49
Jeff Hornacek	32.2	0.48
Fat Lever	31.7	0.47
Jason Terry	31.5	0.47
Andre Miller	31.2	0.47
Nate McMillan	31.1	0.47
Bailey Howell	31	0.46
Alvin Robertson	30.9	0.46
Jimmy	29.9	0.45
James Worthy	29.7	0.44
Yao	29.3	0.44
Sidney Moncrief	28.9	0.43
George Gervin	28.6	0.43
K Love	28.4	0.43
Chauncey	28.3	0.42
Blake	27.3	0.41
Tim Hardaway	27.2	0.41
Marques Johnson	26.8	0.40
Walt Bellamy	26.7	0.40
Paul Arizin	26.7	0.40
Earl Monroe	26.5	0.40
Joe Johnson	26.3	0.39
Terrell Brandon	25.9	0.39
Bill Walton	24.6	0.37
Mullin	23.8	0.36
Dave Bing	23.8	0.36
Alex English	23.1	0.35
Adrian Dantley	22.8	0.34
Jokic	22.4	0.34
Kevin Johnson	22.3	0.33
Bill Sharman	21.3	0.32
Klay	20	0.30
Mark Price	19.2	0.29
KAT	18.4	0.28
Kyrie	18	0.27
Tiny Archibald	18	0.27
D Rose	17.4	0.26
Nash	16.1	0.24
Ed Macauley	16.1	0.24
Pistol Pete	16.1	0.24
Dame	15.5	0.23
David Thompson	13.4	0.20

And then defensive win shares per 48 minutes, using the same calculation process as with the offensive side. There’s one goat point on the line here.

Player	DWS P 48	GOAT POINTS
Bill Russell	0.157	1.00
George Mikan	0.123	0.78
David Robinson	0.112	0.72
Tim Duncan	0.108	0.69
Hakeem	0.103	0.65
Gobert	0.099	0.63
Ewing	0.096	0.61
Wilt	0.094	0.60
Dwight	0.093	0.59
Mark Eaton	0.091	0.58
Dennis Rodman	0.091	0.58
Dave Cowens	0.091	0.58
Kawhi	0.090	0.57
Dikembe	0.089	0.57
Bill Walton	0.089	0.57
Yao	0.089	0.57
Alonzo Mourning	0.089	0.56
KG	0.087	0.55
Dray	0.087	0.55
Sam Jones	0.086	0.55
Wes Unseld	0.086	0.55
Manu	0.085	0.54
Tree Rollins	0.084	0.54
Nate Thurmond	0.083	0.53
Larry	0.082	0.52
Karl Malone	0.081	0.51
Bobby Jones	0.081	0.51
Elvin Hayes	0.080	0.51
Paul George	0.080	0.51
AD	0.079	0.50
Kareem	0.079	0.50
Jack Sikma	0.079	0.50
Dolph Schayes	0.079	0.50
Pippen	0.079	0.50
Dr J	0.078	0.50
Artis Gilmore	0.077	0.49
Robert Parish	0.077	0.49
John Havlicek	0.077	0.49
Shaq	0.076	0.48
Giannis	0.076	0.48
Sheed Wallace	0.076	0.48
Vlade Divac	0.075	0.48
MJ	0.075	0.48
CWebb	0.074	0.47
Bob Cousy	0.074	0.47
Shawn Marion	0.073	0.47
Dave DeBusschere	0.073	0.47
Nate McMillan	0.073	0.46
Kidd	0.072	0.46
Millsap	0.072	0.46
Marc Gasol	0.071	0.45
Horford	0.070	0.45
Rajon Rondo	0.070	0.45
Buck Williams	0.070	0.44
Bill Laimbeer	0.070	0.44
Larry Nance	0.070	0.44
AK47	0.070	0.44
LeBron	0.070	0.44
Tyson Chandler	0.069	0.44
Walt Frazier	0.069	0.44
Bob Pettit	0.069	0.44
Willis Reed	0.067	0.43
Billy Cunningham	0.067	0.43
Jokic	0.067	0.43
Doc Rivers	0.067	0.43
Paul Pierce	0.066	0.42
Chuck	0.066	0.42
Magic	0.065	0.42
Stockton	0.065	0.41
Chris Paul	0.065	0.41
Fat Lever	0.064	0.41
Clyde Drexler	0.064	0.41
D Wade	0.064	0.41
Eddie Jones	0.064	0.41
Pau	0.063	0.40
Clifford Robinson	0.063	0.40
Jimmy	0.063	0.40
Russ	0.063	0.40
Bob Lanier	0.062	0.40
KD	0.061	0.39
Horace Grant	0.061	0.39
Elton Brand	0.060	0.38
Iggy	0.060	0.38
Alvin Robertson	0.060	0.38
Sidney Moncrief	0.060	0.38
Mookie Blaylock	0.060	0.38
McHale	0.059	0.38
Mo Cheeks	0.059	0.37
Moses	0.059	0.37
Dirk	0.058	0.37
Zelmo Beaty	0.058	0.37
Terrell Brandon	0.058	0.37
Elgin Baylor	0.057	0.37
Tony Parker	0.057	0.36
T-Mac	0.057	0.36
LaMarcus Aldridge	0.057	0.36
Sam Perkins	0.056	0.36
Bosh	0.056	0.36
Chet Walker	0.056	0.36
Bob McAdoo	0.056	0.35
Steph	0.055	0.35
Harden	0.055	0.35
Blake	0.055	0.35
K Love	0.054	0.35
Marques Johnson	0.054	0.35
AC Green	0.054	0.34
Dan Issel	0.054	0.34
Otis Thorpe	0.054	0.34
KAT	0.054	0.34
IT	0.053	0.34
Grant Hill	0.053	0.34
Rod Strickland	0.053	0.33
Terry Porter	0.052	0.33
Jerry Lucas	0.052	0.33
Kyle Lowry	0.051	0.33
Kobe	0.050	0.32
Rick Barry	0.050	0.32
Gary Payton	0.050	0.32
Jerry West	0.050	0.32
AI	0.049	0.31
Bailey Howell	0.049	0.31
James Worthy	0.048	0.30
Detlef Schrempf	0.047	0.30
Paul Arizin	0.047	0.30
Vince	0.046	0.29
Jeff Hornacek	0.046	0.29
Hal Greer	0.045	0.29
Klay	0.045	0.29
Bill Sharman	0.045	0.29
Lenny Wilkens	0.045	0.28
Dominique	0.044	0.28
Earl Monroe	0.043	0.27
Kevin Johnson	0.043	0.27
Mark Price	0.043	0.27
Tim Hardaway	0.043	0.27
Melo	0.042	0.27
Kyrie	0.042	0.26
Chauncey	0.041	0.26
Oscar	0.041	0.26
D Rose	0.039	0.25
George Gervin	0.039	0.25
Andre Miller	0.037	0.24
Jason Terry	0.036	0.23
Mullin	0.036	0.23
Dave Bing	0.035	0.22
Ray Allen	0.035	0.22
Reggie	0.034	0.22
Ed Macauley	0.034	0.22
David Thompson	0.033	0.21
Walt Bellamy	0.033	0.21
Adrian Dantley	0.032	0.20
Pistol Pete	0.032	0.20
Alex English	0.029	0.19
Dame	0.029	0.18
Joe Johnson	0.029	0.18
Tiny Archibald	0.028	0.18
Nash	0.020	0.13

That gives us the defensive advanced metrics picture, and here’s the overall leaderboard for our ninth category –

Player	DAM GOAT POINTS
Bill Russell	3.00
Tim Duncan	2.28
Hakeem	2.07
Wilt	2.01
KG	1.92
Kareem	1.92
David Robinson	1.91
Karl Malone	1.90
Ewing	1.83
Elvin Hayes	1.76
Dwight	1.73
Artis Gilmore	1.62
Dr J	1.60
John Havlicek	1.60
Dikembe	1.59
Kidd	1.58
Robert Parish	1.58
LeBron	1.57
Pippen	1.51
Wes Unseld	1.51
Shaq	1.48
Nate Thurmond	1.46
MJ	1.44
Dave Cowens	1.41
Jack Sikma	1.41
Larry	1.41
Dennis Rodman	1.39
Stockton	1.39
Shawn Marion	1.38
Buck Williams	1.37
Paul Pierce	1.36
George Mikan	1.36
Dolph Schayes	1.34
Sheed Wallace	1.34
Dirk	1.31
Mark Eaton	1.30
Alonzo Mourning	1.28
Moses	1.28
Vlade Divac	1.27
Manu	1.25
Clifford Robinson	1.24
Bob Cousy	1.23
Chuck	1.23
Chris Paul	1.22
Pau	1.21
Sam Jones	1.20
Gobert	1.20
CWebb	1.19
Bill Laimbeer	1.18
Dave DeBusschere	1.18
Tree Rollins	1.17
Bobby Jones	1.16
Clyde Drexler	1.15
Millsap	1.14
Tyson Chandler	1.13
Horace Grant	1.13
Paul George	1.13
Iggy	1.12
Horford	1.12
D Wade	1.12
Larry Nance	1.11
Walt Frazier	1.11
Bob Pettit	1.10
Russ	1.09
Magic	1.09
Marc Gasol	1.09
Dray	1.08
Kawhi	1.08
Kobe	1.08
Rajon Rondo	1.07
Eddie Jones	1.06
KD	1.05
Gary Payton	1.05
Dan Issel	1.05
Tony Parker	1.04
Elton Brand	1.04
Bob Lanier	1.02
AD	1.02
Otis Thorpe	1.01
Mo Cheeks	1.01
Yao	1.01
Sam Perkins	1.00
LaMarcus Aldridge	1.00
Billy Cunningham	0.99
Giannis	0.99
Elgin Baylor	0.97
AK47	0.96
Vince	0.96
AC Green	0.96
Mookie Blaylock	0.96
Chet Walker	0.94
Bill Walton	0.94
McHale	0.93
IT	0.93
Nate McMillan	0.93
Doc Rivers	0.92
Grant Hill	0.91
Willis Reed	0.91
Harden	0.91
Bosh	0.91
Rick Barry	0.91
Zelmo Beaty	0.91
Terry Porter	0.91
T-Mac	0.91
Rod Strickland	0.89
Jerry West	0.88
Fat Lever	0.88
AI	0.88
Hal Greer	0.85
Jerry Lucas	0.85
Jimmy	0.85
Kyle Lowry	0.85
Bob McAdoo	0.85
Alvin Robertson	0.85
Steph	0.84
Melo	0.83
Oscar	0.82
Lenny Wilkens	0.81
Sidney Moncrief	0.81
Dominique	0.81
Detlef Schrempf	0.80
Bailey Howell	0.77
Jeff Hornacek	0.77
K Love	0.77
Jokic	0.76
Blake	0.76
Terrell Brandon	0.75
James Worthy	0.75
Marques Johnson	0.75
Reggie	0.73
Ray Allen	0.72
Andre Miller	0.70
Jason Terry	0.70
Paul Arizin	0.70
Chauncey	0.69
Tim Hardaway	0.68
George Gervin	0.67
Earl Monroe	0.67
KAT	0.62
Walt Bellamy	0.61
Kevin Johnson	0.61
Bill Sharman	0.61
Klay	0.59
Mullin	0.58
Dave Bing	0.58
Joe Johnson	0.58
Mark Price	0.56
Adrian Dantley	0.55
Kyrie	0.53
Alex English	0.53
D Rose	0.51
Ed Macauley	0.46
Tiny Archibald	0.45
Pistol Pete	0.44
Dame	0.42
David Thompson	0.41
Nash	0.37

And then our cumulative leaderboard through nine categories –

Player	TOTAL GOAT POINTS
LeBron	28.82
Wilt	28.79
Kareem	28.23
Karl Malone	27.54
KG	26.43
Tim Duncan	26.42
MJ	26.40
Stockton	26.12
Dirk	25.85
Hakeem	25.81
Chris Paul	25.60
Dr J	25.54
Chuck	25.29
David Robinson	25.25
Shaq	25.23
Larry	25.17
Kobe	25.07
Kidd	25.05
Artis Gilmore	24.98
Moses	24.82
Oscar	24.82
Magic	24.67
Bill Russell	24.53
KD	24.08
Dwight	23.86
Harden	23.84
Paul Pierce	23.79
Elvin Hayes	23.66
Pau	23.55
Russ	23.55
Gary Payton	23.53
Clyde Drexler	23.36
Reggie	23.29
Ewing	23.28
Robert Parish	23.11
Bob Pettit	23.06
Pippen	23.05
Jerry West	22.97
Rick Barry	22.86
Dan Issel	22.83
Ray Allen	22.82
Shawn Marion	22.77
John Havlicek	22.76
Vince	22.75
Walt Bellamy	22.69
Steph	22.61
AI	22.55
D Wade	22.55
Dolph Schayes	22.52
Nash	22.41
Dominique	22.40
Melo	22.17
Elgin Baylor	22.10
AD	22.02
Jack Sikma	22.01
CWebb	21.90
George Mikan	21.80
Bob Lanier	21.72
T-Mac	21.66
LaMarcus Aldridge	21.57
Giannis	21.50
Jokic	21.45
Jerry Lucas	21.42
Buck Williams	21.41
Dikembe	21.40
Wes Unseld	21.40
George Gervin	21.28
Terry Porter	21.24
Nate Thurmond	21.17
Elton Brand	21.12
IT	21.09
Bosh	21.05
Sheed Wallace	21.04
Vlade Divac	21.00
Horford	20.96
Iggy	20.95
Grant Hill	20.94
Andre Miller	20.94
Tim Hardaway	20.93
Kyle Lowry	20.90
Jason Terry	20.88
Chauncey	20.88
Bill Laimbeer	20.86
Tony Parker	20.84
K Love	20.84
Clifford Robinson	20.81
Alex English	20.78
Larry Nance	20.76
Horace Grant	20.75
Jeff Hornacek	20.74
Bob Cousy	20.68
Dame	20.66
Sam Perkins	20.63
Millsap	20.63
Lenny Wilkens	20.55
Detlef Schrempf	20.55
Joe Johnson	20.54
Adrian Dantley	20.54
KAT	20.49
Alonzo Mourning	20.48
Mullin	20.48
Chet Walker	20.46
Billy Cunningham	20.45
Mookie Blaylock	20.44
Bailey Howell	20.43
Rod Strickland	20.43
Mo Cheeks	20.38
Hal Greer	20.36
McHale	20.34
Manu	20.33
Eddie Jones	20.31
Paul Arizin	20.26
Otis Thorpe	20.23
Kevin Johnson	20.23
Kawhi	20.16
Dave Cowens	20.14
Marc Gasol	20.13
Paul George	20.13
Bob McAdoo	20.11
Jimmy	20.10
AC Green	19.96
Gobert	19.92
Blake	19.88
Zelmo Beaty	19.74
Dennis Rodman	19.73
Walt Frazier	19.68
Ed Macauley	19.62
Tyson Chandler	19.59
Kyrie	19.47
AK47	19.45
Dave DeBusschere	19.43
Dave Bing	19.42
Fat Lever	19.41
Willis Reed	19.37
Rajon Rondo	19.36
Mark Price	19.28
Tiny Archibald	19.10
James Worthy	19.04
Bobby Jones	18.90
Marques Johnson	18.90
Alvin Robertson	18.83
Terrell Brandon	18.75
Sidney Moncrief	18.68
Sam Jones	18.68
Yao	18.66
Doc Rivers	18.49
Dray	18.30
Bill Sharman	18.28
Pistol Pete	18.15
David Thompson	17.71
Nate McMillan	17.62
D Rose	17.60
Bill Walton	17.57
Tree Rollins	17.43
Earl Monroe	17.27
Klay	17.27
Mark Eaton	16.72

Some notes –

• LeBron holds on to first, but Wilt is right on his back
• MJ stays in top seven, but KG and Tim Duncan move past him
• The top 25 is filled with familiar names – Stockton, Kobe, Shaq, Dirk, Chuck, Larry, CP3, Oscar, Magic, etc.
• Bill Russell makes a big move into the top 25 after his premier category
• Steph stays in top 50, AD reaches top 55, Giannis and Jokic sit right outside top 60
• AI and Melo, two players without the longevity weaknesses of the guys above, sit down around 50
• Isaiah Thomas still pretty far down at 71
• Dame falls outside of top 90, where he’s joined by KAT (down to 99), Kawhi (115), Dennis Rodman (125), Draymond (147), and Klay (second-to-last in 156th)

Overall Advanced Metrics (8)

Subcategories:

• Win Shares (3)
• Win Shares per 48 (2)
• PER (3)

This is a big category, much like longevity. How does everyone fare when we look at metrics focused on an even wider view of the game? Total win shares are simply offensive win shares plus defensive win shares, so I won’t go any deeper into that. It’s a good measure of someone’s ability to contribute on both sides. PER stands for Player Efficiency Rating. We can define it as a measure of a player’s production on a per-minutes basis, and it takes both positive and negative stats into account. The league average is 15. A slightly longer but still brief description of the stat from its creator, John Hollinger, can be found here. PER is perhaps as much an example of a statistic not meant to be a clear measure of player impact as you’ll find out of all the “overall advanced metrics”. It is, again, a look at simple and pure production rather than an attempt to say that Player A is more impactful than Player B. There is, of course, something to be said for impact from production, but that line is more indirect than direct here.

We’ll start with cumulative win shares.

Player	WS	GOAT POINTS
Kareem	273.4	3.00
LeBron	249.5	2.74
Wilt	247.3	2.71
Karl Malone	234.6	2.57
MJ	214	2.35
Stockton	207.7	2.28
Tim Duncan	206.4	2.26
Dirk	206.3	2.26
Chris Paul	198.9	2.18
KG	191.4	2.10
Artis Gilmore	189.7	2.08
Oscar	189.2	2.08
Shaq	181.7	1.99
Dr J	181.1	1.99
Moses	179.1	1.97
David Robinson	178.7	1.96
Chuck	177.2	1.94
Reggie	174.4	1.91
Kobe	172.7	1.90
Bill Russell	163.5	1.79
Hakeem	162.8	1.79
Jerry West	162.6	1.78
Dan Issel	157.8	1.73
Magic	155.8	1.71
KD	155.2	1.70
Paul Pierce	150	1.65
Harden	149.6	1.64
Robert Parish	147	1.61
Larry	145.8	1.60
Gary Payton	145.5	1.60
Ray Allen	145.1	1.59
Pau	144.1	1.58
Dolph Schayes	142.4	1.56
Dwight	141.7	1.55
Kidd	138.6	1.52
Bob Pettit	136	1.49
Clyde Drexler	135.6	1.49
Adrian Dantley	134.2	1.47
John Havlicek	131.7	1.45
Walt Bellamy	130	1.43
Nash	129.7	1.42
Rick Barry	128.9	1.41
Ewing	126.4	1.39
Vince	125.3	1.37
Pippen	125.1	1.37
Shawn Marion	124.9	1.37
Chauncey	120.8	1.33
Elvin Hayes	120.8	1.33
D Wade	120.7	1.32
Steph	120.2	1.32
Buck Williams	120.1	1.32
Horace Grant	118.2	1.30
Dominique	117.5	1.29
Chet Walker	117.4	1.29
Bob Lanier	117.1	1.28
Dikembe	117	1.28
George Gervin	116.3	1.28
LaMarcus Aldridge	115.7	1.27
Bailey Howell	114.8	1.26
Walt Frazier	113.5	1.25
McHale	113	1.24
Jack Sikma	112.5	1.23
Tony Parker	111.3	1.22
Terry Porter	110.4	1.21
Wes Unseld	110.1	1.21
Elton Brand	109.6	1.20
Larry Nance	109.6	1.20
Detlef Schrempf	109.5	1.20
Jeff Hornacek	108.9	1.19
Paul Arizin	108.8	1.19
George Mikan	108.7	1.19
Melo	108.5	1.19
Russ	106.5	1.17
Manu	106.4	1.17
Otis Thorpe	106.4	1.17
Zelmo Beaty	106	1.16
Bosh	106	1.16
Bill Laimbeer	105.6	1.16
Sam Perkins	105.4	1.16
Sheed Wallace	105.1	1.15
Kyle Lowry	104.6	1.15
Elgin Baylor	104.2	1.14
Mo Cheeks	103.5	1.14
Hal Greer	102.7	1.13
Tyson Chandler	102.1	1.12
Jason Terry	102	1.12
Andre Miller	100.8	1.11
Alex English	100.7	1.10
Eddie Jones	100.6	1.10
Ed Macauley	100.4	1.10
Horford	100.3	1.10
Iggy	100.3	1.10
Grant Hill	99.9	1.10
AC Green	99.5	1.09
AI	99	1.09
Jerry Lucas	98.4	1.08
T-Mac	97.3	1.07
Vlade Divac	96.4	1.06
Lenny Wilkens	95.5	1.05
Millsap	95.4	1.05
Dame	94.1	1.03
Bobby Jones	94.1	1.03
Jimmy	93.6	1.03
Mullin	93.1	1.02
Kevin Johnson	92.8	1.02
Sam Jones	92.3	1.01
AD	91.3	1.00
Bob Cousy	91.1	1.00
Sidney Moncrief	90.3	0.99
Dennis Rodman	89.8	0.99
Clifford Robinson	89.7	0.98
Alonzo Mourning	89.7	0.98
Bob McAdoo	89.1	0.98
K Love	88.6	0.97
Giannis	87.5	0.96
Gobert	86.6	0.95
Dave Cowens	86.3	0.95
Rod Strickland	85.8	0.94
Marc Gasol	85.3	0.94
Tim Hardaway	85	0.93
CWebb	84.7	0.93
Tiny Archibald	83.4	0.92
Kawhi	83.3	0.91
Joe Johnson	82.9	0.91
Bill Sharman	82.8	0.91
James Worthy	81.2	0.89
IT	80.7	0.89
Marques Johnson	79.8	0.88
Jokic	79.6	0.87
Blake	79.3	0.87
Billy Cunningham	78.6	0.86
Nate Thurmond	78	0.86
Earl Monroe	77.4	0.85
Paul George	76.6	0.84
AK47	75.4	0.83
Willis Reed	74.9	0.82
Kyrie	72	0.79
Mookie Blaylock	71.8	0.79
Mark Price	71.1	0.78
Dave Bing	68.8	0.75
Doc Rivers	68.2	0.75
KAT	66.1	0.73
Terrell Brandon	65.9	0.72
Yao	65.9	0.72
Tree Rollins	63.9	0.70
David Thompson	63.3	0.69
Rajon Rondo	61.8	0.68
Fat Lever	61.2	0.67
Dave DeBusschere	60.8	0.67
Dray	52.7	0.58
Alvin Robertson	52.1	0.57
Nate McMillan	50.2	0.55
Klay	48.5	0.53
Pistol Pete	46.7	0.51
Mark Eaton	44.8	0.49
D Rose	44.2	0.49
Bill Walton	39.3	0.43

Win shares per 48 are next, and this time the calculation has already been done for us. There are two goat points on the line.

Player	WS P 48	GOAT POINTS
MJ	0.25	2.00
David Robinson	0.25	2.00
George Mikan	0.249	1.99
Wilt	0.248	1.98
Chris Paul	0.239	1.91
Jokic	0.239	1.91
LeBron	0.23	1.84
Kareem	0.228	1.82
Gobert	0.227	1.82
Magic	0.225	1.80
Kawhi	0.222	1.78
Harden	0.22	1.76
Chuck	0.216	1.73
KD	0.216	1.73
Jerry West	0.213	1.70
Bob Pettit	0.213	1.70
AD	0.211	1.69
Stockton	0.209	1.67
Tim Duncan	0.209	1.67
Shaq	0.208	1.66
Oscar	0.207	1.66
Karl Malone	0.205	1.64
Larry	0.203	1.62
Steph	0.203	1.62
Yao	0.2	1.60
Giannis	0.197	1.58
Ed Macauley	0.196	1.57
Jimmy	0.196	1.57
Dirk	0.193	1.54
Artis Gilmore	0.193	1.54
Bill Russell	0.193	1.54
KAT	0.193	1.54
Dr J	0.192	1.54
Dolph Schayes	0.192	1.54
Manu	0.19	1.52
Adrian Dantley	0.189	1.51
Sidney Moncrief	0.187	1.50
Paul Arizin	0.183	1.46
KG	0.182	1.46
Sam Jones	0.182	1.46
Dan Issel	0.181	1.45
Bailey Howell	0.18	1.44
McHale	0.18	1.44
Kevin Johnson	0.178	1.42
Bill Sharman	0.178	1.42
Hakeem	0.177	1.42
Reggie	0.176	1.41
Chauncey	0.176	1.41
Walt Frazier	0.176	1.41
Bob Lanier	0.175	1.40
Dame	0.175	1.40
Bobby Jones	0.175	1.40
Moses	0.174	1.39
Clyde Drexler	0.173	1.38
Dwight	0.172	1.38
Larry Nance	0.171	1.37
Zelmo Beaty	0.171	1.37
Kobe	0.17	1.36
K Love	0.17	1.36
Pau	0.169	1.35
Chet Walker	0.168	1.34
Kyrie	0.166	1.33
Alonzo Mourning	0.166	1.33
Nash	0.164	1.31
Rick Barry	0.162	1.30
D Wade	0.162	1.30
Marques Johnson	0.162	1.30
Walt Bellamy	0.16	1.28
Blake	0.16	1.28
Bosh	0.159	1.27
Mark Price	0.158	1.26
Paul Pierce	0.157	1.26
George Gervin	0.157	1.26
Horford	0.157	1.26
Detlef Schrempf	0.156	1.25
Willis Reed	0.156	1.25
David Thompson	0.156	1.25
Tyson Chandler	0.155	1.24
Robert Parish	0.154	1.23
Jeff Hornacek	0.154	1.23
Kyle Lowry	0.154	1.23
LaMarcus Aldridge	0.153	1.22
Dikembe	0.153	1.22
T-Mac	0.152	1.22
Elton Brand	0.151	1.21
AK47	0.151	1.21
Bob McAdoo	0.151	1.21
Ray Allen	0.15	1.20
Ewing	0.15	1.20
Shawn Marion	0.15	1.20
Terry Porter	0.15	1.20
Millsap	0.15	1.20
Dennis Rodman	0.15	1.20
Bill Laimbeer	0.149	1.19
Paul George	0.149	1.19
Gary Payton	0.148	1.18
Dominique	0.148	1.18
Elgin Baylor	0.148	1.18
Horace Grant	0.147	1.18
Wes Unseld	0.147	1.18
Eddie Jones	0.147	1.18
Jerry Lucas	0.147	1.18
Terrell Brandon	0.147	1.18
Pippen	0.146	1.17
Jack Sikma	0.146	1.17
Russ	0.144	1.15
Mo Cheeks	0.143	1.14
Marc Gasol	0.143	1.14
Bill Walton	0.142	1.14
Billy Cunningham	0.141	1.13
Tony Parker	0.14	1.12
Dave Cowens	0.14	1.12
Sheed Wallace	0.139	1.11
Mullin	0.139	1.11
Doc Rivers	0.139	1.11
Bob Cousy	0.139	1.11
Sam Perkins	0.138	1.10
Grant Hill	0.138	1.10
Vlade Divac	0.137	1.10
John Havlicek	0.136	1.09
Buck Williams	0.136	1.09
Kidd	0.133	1.06
Tim Hardaway	0.133	1.06
CWebb	0.132	1.06
AC Green	0.131	1.05
Vince	0.13	1.04
Dray	0.13	1.04
James Worthy	0.13	1.04
Otis Thorpe	0.128	1.02
Tree Rollins	0.128	1.02
Tiny Archibald	0.128	1.02
Alex English	0.127	1.02
AI	0.126	1.01
Earl Monroe	0.125	1.00
Hal Greer	0.124	0.99
Fat Lever	0.123	0.98
Iggy	0.122	0.98
Rod Strickland	0.122	0.98
Melo	0.12	0.96
Andre Miller	0.12	0.96
Lenny Wilkens	0.12	0.96
Nate McMillan	0.118	0.94
Elvin Hayes	0.116	0.93
Jason Terry	0.116	0.93
Mookie Blaylock	0.111	0.89
Klay	0.11	0.88
IT	0.109	0.87
Rajon Rondo	0.104	0.83
Nate Thurmond	0.104	0.83
Clifford Robinson	0.101	0.81
Alvin Robertson	0.101	0.81
Dave Bing	0.101	0.81
D Rose	0.1	0.80
Dave DeBusschere	0.093	0.74
Pistol Pete	0.092	0.74
Joe Johnson	0.09	0.72
Mark Eaton	0.085	0.68

And then we can close with PER. There are 3 goat points available here as well.

Player	PER	GOAT POINTS
MJ	27.9	3.00
LeBron	27.3	2.94
Jokic	27.1	2.91
George Mikan	27	2.90
AD	26.9	2.89
Shaq	26.4	2.84
David Robinson	26.2	2.82
Wilt	26.1	2.81
KD	25.3	2.72
Bob Pettit	25.3	2.72
KAT	24.7	2.66
Kareem	24.6	2.65
Chris Paul	24.6	2.65
Chuck	24.6	2.65
Harden	24.5	2.63
Giannis	24.5	2.63
Tim Duncan	24.2	2.60
Magic	24.1	2.59
Karl Malone	23.9	2.57
Steph	23.8	2.56
Dr J	23.6	2.54
Hakeem	23.6	2.54
Larry	23.5	2.53
D Wade	23.5	2.53
Kawhi	23.4	2.52
Oscar	23.2	2.49
Yao	23	2.47
Kobe	22.9	2.46
Jerry West	22.9	2.46
KG	22.7	2.44
Elgin Baylor	22.7	2.44
Russ	22.6	2.43
Dirk	22.4	2.41
Kyrie	22.4	2.41
Dame	22.2	2.39
T-Mac	22.1	2.38
Gobert	22.1	2.38
Moses	22	2.37
Dolph Schayes	22	2.37
Stockton	21.8	2.34
Bob Lanier	21.7	2.33
Dominique	21.6	2.32
Adrian Dantley	21.5	2.31
Artis Gilmore	21.4	2.30
Dan Issel	21.4	2.30
Pau	21.4	2.30
George Gervin	21.4	2.30
Dwight	21.3	2.29
K Love	21.3	2.29
Blake	21.2	2.28
Alonzo Mourning	21.2	2.28
Clyde Drexler	21.1	2.27
Jimmy	21.1	2.27
Rick Barry	21	2.26
Ewing	21	2.26
AI	20.9	2.25
CWebb	20.9	2.25
LaMarcus Aldridge	20.7	2.23
Kevin Johnson	20.7	2.23
Bob McAdoo	20.7	2.23
Bosh	20.6	2.22
Elton Brand	20.5	2.20
Ed Macauley	20.4	2.19
Manu	20.2	2.17
Marques Johnson	20.1	2.16
Nash	20	2.15
McHale	20	2.15
Bill Walton	20	2.15
Billy Cunningham	20	2.15
Larry Nance	19.9	2.14
Alex English	19.9	2.14
David Thompson	19.9	2.14
Walt Bellamy	19.8	2.13
Bob Cousy	19.8	2.13
Paul Pierce	19.7	2.12
Paul Arizin	19.7	2.12
Terrell Brandon	19.7	2.12
Mark Price	19.6	2.11
Melo	19.5	2.10
Paul George	19.4	2.09
Robert Parish	19.2	2.06
Walt Frazier	19.1	2.05
Bailey Howell	19.1	2.05
Grant Hill	19	2.04
Bill Russell	18.9	2.03
Gary Payton	18.9	2.03
Jerry Lucas	18.9	2.03
Chauncey	18.8	2.02
Shawn Marion	18.8	2.02
Mullin	18.8	2.02
Zelmo Beaty	18.7	2.01
Millsap	18.7	2.01
AK47	18.7	2.01
Sidney Moncrief	18.7	2.01
Sam Jones	18.7	2.01
Ray Allen	18.6	2.00
Vince	18.6	2.00
Pippen	18.6	2.00
Tim Hardaway	18.6	2.00
Willis Reed	18.6	2.00
Horford	18.5	1.99
Reggie	18.4	1.98
Pistol Pete	18.4	1.98
Tony Parker	18.2	1.96
Bobby Jones	18.2	1.96
D Rose	18.2	1.96
Bill Sharman	18.2	1.96
IT	18.1	1.95
Kyle Lowry	18	1.94
Marc Gasol	18	1.94
Rod Strickland	18	1.94
Tiny Archibald	18	1.94
Kidd	17.9	1.92
Fat Lever	17.8	1.91
Elvin Hayes	17.7	1.90
Jeff Hornacek	17.7	1.90
Vlade Divac	17.7	1.90
James Worthy	17.7	1.90
Chet Walker	17.6	1.89
Dave Bing	17.6	1.89
John Havlicek	17.5	1.88
Andre Miller	17.4	1.87
Jack Sikma	17.3	1.86
Dikembe	17.2	1.85
Terry Porter	17.2	1.85
Detlef Schrempf	17.2	1.85
Earl Monroe	17.2	1.85
Sheed Wallace	17	1.83
Dave Cowens	17	1.83
Alvin Robertson	17	1.83
Lenny Wilkens	16.8	1.81
Mookie Blaylock	16.8	1.81
Eddie Jones	16.7	1.80
Doc Rivers	16.6	1.78
Mo Cheeks	16.5	1.77
Nate Thurmond	16.5	1.77
Klay	16.4	1.76
Jason Terry	16.2	1.74
Bill Laimbeer	16.1	1.73
Tyson Chandler	16.1	1.73
Horace Grant	16	1.72
Wes Unseld	16	1.72
Otis Thorpe	16	1.72
Rajon Rondo	15.8	1.70
Hal Greer	15.7	1.69
Sam Perkins	15.5	1.67
Dave DeBusschere	15.5	1.67
Iggy	15.4	1.66
Joe Johnson	15.4	1.66
Buck Williams	15.3	1.65
Dray	14.9	1.60
Dennis Rodman	14.6	1.57
Nate McMillan	14.5	1.56
Clifford Robinson	14.5	1.56
AC Green	14.4	1.55
Tree Rollins	13.6	1.46
Mark Eaton	10.9	1.17

And that’s all for our advanced metrics categories. Here’s the total leaderboard for overall advanced metrics –

Player	OAM GOAT POINTS
LeBron	7.51
Wilt	7.50
Kareem	7.47
MJ	7.35
Karl Malone	6.78
David Robinson	6.78
Chris Paul	6.74
Tim Duncan	6.54
Shaq	6.50
Chuck	6.32
Stockton	6.30
Oscar	6.23
Dirk	6.22
KD	6.15
Magic	6.10
George Mikan	6.09
Dr J	6.06
Harden	6.04
KG	6.00
Jerry West	5.95
Artis Gilmore	5.93
Bob Pettit	5.92
Larry	5.75
Hakeem	5.74
Moses	5.72
Kobe	5.72
Jokic	5.70
AD	5.58
Steph	5.50
Dan Issel	5.48
Dolph Schayes	5.46
Bill Russell	5.37
Reggie	5.30
Adrian Dantley	5.30
Pau	5.23
Dwight	5.22
Kawhi	5.21
Giannis	5.17
D Wade	5.15
Gobert	5.14
Clyde Drexler	5.14
Paul Pierce	5.02
Bob Lanier	5.02
Rick Barry	4.97
KAT	4.93
Robert Parish	4.91
Nash	4.89
Jimmy	4.86
Ed Macauley	4.86
Manu	4.86
Ewing	4.85
Walt Bellamy	4.84
George Gervin	4.83
McHale	4.83
Dame	4.82
Gary Payton	4.81
Yao	4.80
Dominique	4.80
Ray Allen	4.79
Paul Arizin	4.78
Elgin Baylor	4.77
Chauncey	4.76
Bailey Howell	4.75
Russ	4.75
LaMarcus Aldridge	4.72
Larry Nance	4.71
Walt Frazier	4.71
Kevin Johnson	4.67
T-Mac	4.66
Bosh	4.65
K Love	4.62
Elton Brand	4.61
Shawn Marion	4.59
Alonzo Mourning	4.59
Zelmo Beaty	4.54
Pippen	4.54
Kyrie	4.53
Chet Walker	4.52
Kidd	4.51
Sidney Moncrief	4.50
Sam Jones	4.48
Blake	4.43
Vince	4.41
John Havlicek	4.41
Bob McAdoo	4.41
Bobby Jones	4.39
Dikembe	4.36
Horford	4.35
AI	4.34
Marques Johnson	4.33
Jeff Hornacek	4.33
Kyle Lowry	4.32
Detlef Schrempf	4.30
Tony Parker	4.30
Bill Sharman	4.29
Jerry Lucas	4.29
Jack Sikma	4.26
Terry Porter	4.26
Alex English	4.26
Millsap	4.26
Melo	4.25
Grant Hill	4.24
Bob Cousy	4.24
CWebb	4.23
Horace Grant	4.19
Elvin Hayes	4.16
Mullin	4.16
Mark Price	4.15
Billy Cunningham	4.14
Paul George	4.12
Wes Unseld	4.10
Sheed Wallace	4.09
Tyson Chandler	4.09
David Thompson	4.08
Bill Laimbeer	4.08
Eddie Jones	4.08
Willis Reed	4.07
Vlade Divac	4.06
Mo Cheeks	4.05
Buck Williams	4.05
AK47	4.05
Terrell Brandon	4.02
Marc Gasol	4.02
Tim Hardaway	4.00
Andre Miller	3.94
Sam Perkins	3.93
Otis Thorpe	3.91
Dave Cowens	3.89
Tiny Archibald	3.87
Rod Strickland	3.85
James Worthy	3.83
Lenny Wilkens	3.81
Hal Greer	3.81
Jason Terry	3.79
Dennis Rodman	3.76
Iggy	3.73
Bill Walton	3.72
IT	3.70
Earl Monroe	3.70
AC Green	3.69
Doc Rivers	3.65
Fat Lever	3.57
Mookie Blaylock	3.48
Nate Thurmond	3.46
Dave Bing	3.46
Clifford Robinson	3.35
Joe Johnson	3.29
D Rose	3.24
Pistol Pete	3.23
Dray	3.22
Rajon Rondo	3.21
Alvin Robertson	3.21
Tree Rollins	3.19
Klay	3.18
Dave DeBusschere	3.08
Nate McMillan	3.05
Mark Eaton	2.34

And then there’s our new cumulative leaderboard through ten of seventeen categories. And with this, we’ll be leaving regular season stats behind to get to accolades and playoff-centered stats and accomplishments.

Player	TOTAL GOAT POINTS
LeBron	36.33
Wilt	36.29
Kareem	35.70
Karl Malone	34.32
MJ	33.75
Tim Duncan	32.96
KG	32.43
Stockton	32.42
Chris Paul	32.34
Dirk	32.07
David Robinson	32.03
Shaq	31.73
Chuck	31.61
Dr J	31.60
Hakeem	31.55
Oscar	31.05
Larry	30.92
Artis Gilmore	30.91
Kobe	30.79
Magic	30.77
Moses	30.54
KD	30.23
Bill Russell	29.90
Harden	29.88
Kidd	29.56
Dwight	29.08
Bob Pettit	28.98
Jerry West	28.92
Paul Pierce	28.81
Pau	28.78
Reggie	28.59
Clyde Drexler	28.50
Gary Payton	28.34
Dan Issel	28.31
Russ	28.30
Ewing	28.13
Steph	28.11
Robert Parish	28.02
Dolph Schayes	27.98
George Mikan	27.89
Rick Barry	27.83
Elvin Hayes	27.82
D Wade	27.70
Ray Allen	27.61
AD	27.60
Pippen	27.59
Walt Bellamy	27.53
Shawn Marion	27.36
Nash	27.30
Dominique	27.20
John Havlicek	27.17
Vince	27.16
Jokic	27.15
AI	26.89
Elgin Baylor	26.87
Bob Lanier	26.74
Giannis	26.67
Melo	26.42
T-Mac	26.32
LaMarcus Aldridge	26.29
Jack Sikma	26.27
CWebb	26.13
George Gervin	26.11
Adrian Dantley	25.84
Dikembe	25.76
Elton Brand	25.73
Jerry Lucas	25.71
Bosh	25.70
Chauncey	25.64
Wes Unseld	25.50
Terry Porter	25.50
Dame	25.48
Larry Nance	25.47
K Love	25.46
Buck Williams	25.46
KAT	25.42
Kawhi	25.37
Horford	25.31
Kyle Lowry	25.22
Manu	25.19
Bailey Howell	25.18
Grant Hill	25.18
McHale	25.17
Tony Parker	25.14
Sheed Wallace	25.13
Alonzo Mourning	25.07
Jeff Hornacek	25.07
Gobert	25.06
Vlade Divac	25.06
Alex English	25.04
Paul Arizin	25.04
Chet Walker	24.98
Jimmy	24.96
Horace Grant	24.94
Bill Laimbeer	24.94
Tim Hardaway	24.93
Bob Cousy	24.92
Kevin Johnson	24.90
Millsap	24.89
Andre Miller	24.88
Detlef Schrempf	24.85
IT	24.79
Iggy	24.68
Jason Terry	24.67
Mullin	24.64
Nate Thurmond	24.63
Billy Cunningham	24.59
Sam Perkins	24.56
Bob McAdoo	24.52
Ed Macauley	24.48
Mo Cheeks	24.43
Walt Frazier	24.39
Eddie Jones	24.39
Lenny Wilkens	24.36
Blake	24.31
Rod Strickland	24.28
Zelmo Beaty	24.28
Paul George	24.25
Hal Greer	24.17
Clifford Robinson	24.16
Marc Gasol	24.15
Otis Thorpe	24.14
Dave Cowens	24.03
Kyrie	24.00
Mookie Blaylock	23.92
Joe Johnson	23.83
Tyson Chandler	23.68
AC Green	23.65
AK47	23.50
Dennis Rodman	23.49
Yao	23.46
Willis Reed	23.44
Mark Price	23.43
Bobby Jones	23.29
Marques Johnson	23.23
Sidney Moncrief	23.18
Sam Jones	23.16
Fat Lever	22.98
Tiny Archibald	22.97
Dave Bing	22.88
James Worthy	22.87
Terrell Brandon	22.77
Bill Sharman	22.57
Rajon Rondo	22.57
Dave DeBusschere	22.51
Doc Rivers	22.14
Alvin Robertson	22.04
David Thompson	21.79
Dray	21.52
Pistol Pete	21.38
Bill Walton	21.29
Earl Monroe	20.97
D Rose	20.84
Nate McMillan	20.67
Tree Rollins	20.62
Klay	20.45
Mark Eaton	19.06

Some notes –

• LeBron and Wilt still in an incredibly tight race at the top with Kareem in a relatively close third and Karl Malone and MJ rounding out a pretty clear top five. There’s no real surprise in there. Malone’s legacy has obviously been altered by irredeemable off-court actions and will suffer as we move on to the second half of our categories, but it’s hard to argue with his statistical resume.
• There really aren’t any surprises in the top 25 as a whole. Some might point to Artis Gilmore at 19, but the man averaged a very efficient 19 and 12 across eighteen seasons and led the ABA in defensive win shares four years in a row. He’s an all-time great.
• Russ sits at 35 and Steph at 37 through our regular season stats portion. That will obviously change; Steph has a decent amount left in his trophy cabinet. But it’s perhaps a reminder to send a little more respect in Westbrook’s direction.
• AD (45), Jokic (53), and Giannis (57) all sit in the top 60 despite some pretty significant barriers in terms of longevity. It will be interesting to see how far Giannis can climb given what he’s accomplished on an accolades-basis in recent years.
• AI down at 54 is interesting, especially considering that he doesn’t have the most room to climb moving forward. The same is even more true for Melo at 58.
• Kawhi has climbed to 77 and still has more room to move up given his accolades. Leonard is as fascinating of a player as it gets in the all-time debate given the stark disparity between his regular season availability and volume and all that he has done in the postseason.
• Both Tony Parker and Manu sit right around 80th. I don’t think many would argue for them to be too high on the all-time list, but there is a comparison there to the oft more-acclaimed duo that plays alongside Steph in Draymond and Klay. They both sit in the bottom nine right now.
• Bob Cousy (97) sits significantly ahead of the “wizard” that is Kyrie Irving (124).
• Isiah Thomas is all the way down at 102 and has quite a bit of space between him and greener all-time pastures. We’ll see where he finishes.

Regular Season Awards (10)

Subcategories:

• MVPs (3)
• Top 3 MVP Finishes (2)
• All-Star Appearances (1)
• DPOY (1.5)
• All-Defense Teams (1)
• All-NBA Teams (1.5)

There are a lot of flaws to regular season awards. Players can be rewarded for reputation more than actual quality (all-defense teams are a notorious place for this). Even today, a lot of voters probably don’t watch many of the potentially deserving players more than once or twice a year. That gap between the pre-determined elite and those who play good basketball in relative national anonymity was likely far wider in past eras too. There’s also the obvious truth that not all awards are equal. Some years and some eras simply have less competition than others. A player could win zero MVPs but still have a few seasons that were probably better than at least a few of the MVP seasons throughout league history (peak Chris Paul playing alongside Kobe and LeBron is a decent example of this). And, of course, different eras have different number of teams. It’s a heck of a lot easier to be one of the five, fifteen, or thirty best players in an eight team league than in a thirty team league. There’s voter fatigue as well that can come into play. Lastly, most awards don’t run all the way back to the beginning of the league, which puts a few players from earlier eras at a pretty severe disadvantage in this category. DPOY goes back to 1983. MVP goes back to the mid 50s. George Mikan, for example, is going to get hit here and there’s not a whole lot that can be done about it. So the ten points at stake is not my way of saying that regular season awards are as important as anything. It’s just the fact that there are quite a few regular season awards, and we need to dish out at least a few points to some of them. Because, despite their flaws, regular season awards do hold merit as a good representation of who stands out in any given season – and boasting many of them is a good way of representing an elite run of seasons. MVPs are particularly important (and we also balance out era-based competitive differences by looking at top three finishes). Being the DPOY matters, even if we can say there’s no perfect way to select who that is in any given season. And showing up in an All-Star game or on an All-NBA team is far from insignificant, no matter the flaws in the selection process. We can limit the individual importance of these accolades to control for their imperfections, but they need to be included in any discussion of greatness. One last note – I’m not including Rookie of the Year or All-Rookie teams. I thought about giving them about half a point and including them just to have them there, but I just don’t see the point. Being better than other rookies in your rookie year doesn’t have much of anything to do with your ultimate legacy.

One last note – there is theoretically adjusting that can be done for era here given that there have been different numbers of teams and thus players in the league across time. That obviously has an impact on one’s ability to win awards. But given other factors at play like general league competitiveness and the fact that a few early players are at a disadvantage in this category given the absence of some of these awards in early league history, I’ll just leave it as is without making any adjustments. One more last note – ABA regular season awards count the same as NBA awards here. There’s one distinction to the All-NBA team subcategory that I’ll describe when we get there, but everything is the same across the two leagues in terms of how I count the accolades otherwise.

We can start with MVPs, which should be pretty self-explanatory. We’re following the same method of scoring where your goat points are based on the percentage of the best player’s value that yours reaches. There are 3 goat points on the line here. One note that is obvious but still worth registering – we’re going to start getting a lot of 0s in some of these accolade and postseason accomplishment categories, which will obviously be a change from what we’ve seen so far. Instead of taking up a bunch of space with guys who are getting 0 goat points, I won’t include those players. So anyone that you don’t see has 0. And we’ll see some more separation from the pack when we get to the next cumulative leaderboard. Only 36 players won an MVP.

Player	MVP	GOAT POINTS
Kareem	6	3
MJ	5	2.5
Bill Russell	5	2.5
LeBron	4	2
Dr J	4	2
Wilt	4	2
Larry	3	1.5
Magic	3	1.5
Moses	3	1.5
Tim Duncan	2	1
Karl Malone	2	1
Bob Pettit	2	1
Steph	2	1
Giannis	2	1
Nash	2	1
Jokic	2	1
Kobe	1	0.5
Bob Cousy	1	0.5
Shaq	1	0.5
Oscar	1	0.5
Hakeem	1	0.5
KD	1	0.5
Dirk	1	0.5
KG	1	0.5
David Robinson	1	0.5
Harden	1	0.5
Russ	1	0.5
AI	1	0.5
Billy Cunningham	1	0.5
Willis Reed	1	0.5
Artis Gilmore	1	0.5
Dave Cowens	1	0.5
Bill Walton	1	0.5
Bob McAdoo	1	0.5
Wes Unseld	1	0.5
D Rose	1	0.5

We can then do top 3 MVP finishes. Why include these? For one thing, finishing in the top three in MVP voting in any given year is pretty impressive on its own. But this also widens the scope a little bit in recognizing players for elite seasons, and it helps us to some degree with the problem of players who have MVP-worthy seasons in an unfortunately competitive year. Obviously the top three cutoff is arbitrary, but it makes as much sense as any. There are two goat points on the line here, and there are 69 players who finished top three in MVP voting at least once.

Player	Top 3 MVP Finishes	GOAT POINTS
LeBron	11	2.00
MJ	10	1.82
Kareem	9	1.64
Bill Russell	9	1.64
Magic	9	1.64
Wilt	8	1.45
Larry	8	1.45
Dr J	7	1.27
Tim Duncan	5	0.91
Karl Malone	5	0.91
Bob Pettit	5	0.91
Kobe	5	0.91
Shaq	5	0.91
Oscar	5	0.91
David Robinson	5	0.91
Harden	5	0.91
Moses	4	0.73
KD	4	0.73
KG	4	0.73
Jerry West	4	0.73
Elgin Baylor	4	0.73
Steph	3	0.55
Giannis	3	0.55
Nash	3	0.55
Dirk	3	0.55
Dave Cowens	3	0.55
Bob McAdoo	3	0.55
George Gervin	3	0.55
Jokic	2	0.36
Bob Cousy	2	0.36
Hakeem	2	0.36
Billy Cunningham	2	0.36
Willis Reed	2	0.36
Artis Gilmore	2	0.36
Bill Walton	2	0.36
Chuck	2	0.36
Chris Paul	2	0.36
Elvin Hayes	2	0.36
Kawhi	2	0.36
Paul Arizin	2	0.36
David Thompson	2	0.36
Alonzo Mourning	2	0.36
Zelmo Beaty	2	0.36
Russ	1	0.18
AI	1	0.18
Wes Unseld	1	0.18
D Rose	1	0.18
Dolph Schayes	1	0.18
Rick Barry	1	0.18
Dwight	1	0.18
Gary Payton	1	0.18
Kidd	1	0.18
Pippen	1	0.18
D Wade	1	0.18
Dominique	1	0.18
Tiny Archibald	1	0.18
AD	1	0.18
Grant Hill	1	0.18
Pistol Pete	1	0.18
Clyde Drexler	1	0.18
Paul George	1	0.18
Melo	1	0.18
Blake	1	0.18
Dave Bing	1	0.18
Dan Issel	1	0.18
Bobby Jones	1	0.18
Nate Thurmond	1	0.18
Lenny Wilkens	1	0.18
Bob Lanier	1	0.18

Next up is the DPOY award, which should be pretty straightforward. There are 1.5 goat points on the line, and we have just 15 DPOY winners from our group of players (out of 24 total winners).

Player	DPOY	GOAT POINTS
Dikembe	4	1.50
Dwight	3	1.13
Gobert	3	1.13
Hakeem	2	0.75
Kawhi	2	0.75
Alonzo Mourning	2	0.75
Sidney Moncrief	2	0.75
Dennis Rodman	2	0.75
Mark Eaton	2	0.75
MJ	1	0.38
David Robinson	1	0.38
KG	1	0.38
Giannis	1	0.38
Gary Payton	1	0.38
Marc Gasol	1	0.38

All-Star appearances are up next. There is one goat point on the line, and 151 of our 157 players made at least one All-Star game.

Player	All-Star	GOAT POINTS
Kareem	19	1.00
LeBron	18	0.95
Kobe	18	0.95
Dr J	16	0.84
KG	15	0.79
Tim Duncan	15	0.79
Shaq	15	0.79
MJ	14	0.74
Karl Malone	14	0.74
Jerry West	14	0.74
Dirk	14	0.74
Wilt	13	0.68
Moses	13	0.68
Bob Cousy	13	0.68
D Wade	13	0.68
John Havlicek	13	0.68
Hakeem	12	0.63
Bill Russell	12	0.63
Magic	12	0.63
Larry	12	0.63
Oscar	12	0.63
KD	12	0.63
George Gervin	12	0.63
Chris Paul	12	0.63
Elvin Hayes	12	0.63
Dolph Schayes	12	0.63
Rick Barry	12	0.63
IT	12	0.63
Bob Pettit	11	0.58
Elgin Baylor	11	0.58
Artis Gilmore	11	0.58
Chuck	11	0.58
AI	11	0.58
Ewing	11	0.58
Bosh	11	0.58
David Robinson	10	0.53
Harden	10	0.53
Paul Arizin	10	0.53
Kidd	10	0.53
Clyde Drexler	10	0.53
Melo	10	0.53
Stockton	10	0.53
Hal Greer	10	0.53
Paul Pierce	10	0.53
Ray Allen	10	0.53
Gary Payton	9	0.47
Russ	9	0.47
Dominique	9	0.47
Lenny Wilkens	9	0.47
Robert Parish	9	0.47
Dikembe	8	0.42
Dwight	8	0.42
Steph	8	0.42
Nash	8	0.42
Dave Cowens	8	0.42
AD	8	0.42
Bob Lanier	8	0.42
Bill Sharman	8	0.42
Yao	8	0.42
Alex English	8	0.42
Vince	8	0.42
Dave DeBusschere	8	0.42
Alonzo Mourning	7	0.37
Willis Reed	7	0.37
Pippen	7	0.37
Grant Hill	7	0.37
Paul George	7	0.37
Dave Bing	7	0.37
Dan Issel	7	0.37
Nate Thurmond	7	0.37
Walt Frazier	7	0.37
T-Mac	7	0.37
Jerry Lucas	7	0.37
Ed Macauley	7	0.37
LaMarcus Aldridge	7	0.37
Kyrie	7	0.37
McHale	7	0.37
James Worthy	7	0.37
Joe Johnson	7	0.37
Jack Sikma	7	0.37
Chet Walker	7	0.37
Giannis	6	0.32
Tiny Archibald	6	0.32
Blake	6	0.32
Dame	6	0.32
Tony Parker	6	0.32
Pau	6	0.32
Jimmy	6	0.32
Adrian Dantley	6	0.32
Bailey Howell	6	0.32
Kyle Lowry	6	0.32
Kawhi	5	0.26
Sidney Moncrief	5	0.26
Bob McAdoo	5	0.26
Billy Cunningham	5	0.26
David Thompson	5	0.26
Zelmo Beaty	5	0.26
Wes Unseld	5	0.26
Pistol Pete	5	0.26
Bobby Jones	5	0.26
CWebb	5	0.26
Tim Hardaway	5	0.26
Mullin	5	0.26
Marques Johnson	5	0.26
Sam Jones	5	0.26
Chauncey	5	0.26
K Love	5	0.26
Reggie	5	0.26
Klay	5	0.26
Horford	5	0.26
Jokic	4	0.21
George Mikan	4	0.21
Mark Price	4	0.21
Dray	4	0.21
Earl Monroe	4	0.21
Alvin Robertson	4	0.21
Shawn Marion	4	0.21
Rajon Rondo	4	0.21
Mo Cheeks	4	0.21
Millsap	4	0.21
Bill Laimbeer	4	0.21
Sheed Wallace	4	0.21
Walt Bellamy	4	0.21
Gobert	3	0.16
Marc Gasol	3	0.16
D Rose	3	0.16
Kevin Johnson	3	0.16
Buck Williams	3	0.16
KAT	3	0.16
Eddie Jones	3	0.16
Detlef Schrempf	3	0.16
Larry Nance	3	0.16
Dennis Rodman	2	0.11
Bill Walton	2	0.11
Fat Lever	2	0.11
Elton Brand	2	0.11
Manu	2	0.11
Terrell Brandon	2	0.11
Terry Porter	2	0.11
Mark Eaton	1	0.05
Tyson Chandler	1	0.05
Mookie Blaylock	1	0.05
AK47	1	0.05
Horace Grant	1	0.05
Iggy	1	0.05
Clifford Robinson	1	0.05
AC Green	1	0.05
Doc Rivers	1	0.05
Jeff Hornacek	1	0.05
Otis Thorpe	1	0.05
Vlade Divac	1	0.05

Then we have All-Defense appearances. There is one goat point on the line. There’s an extra step here since there’s a first team and a second team rather than just a single yes-or-no option. So any All-Defense first team appearance is worth two points while a second team appearance is worth one. The sum of the value of all of those appearances is the number you’ll see here. We also, coincidentally, have sixty-nine players that made at least one All-Defense team.

Player	All-Defense	GOAT POINTS
Tim Duncan	23	1.00
Kobe	21	0.91
KG	21	0.91
MJ	18	0.78
Gary Payton	18	0.78
Pippen	18	0.78
Bobby Jones	17	0.74
Kareem	16	0.70
Chris Paul	16	0.70
Dennis Rodman	15	0.65
Hakeem	14	0.61
Walt Frazier	14	0.61
John Havlicek	13	0.57
Kidd	13	0.57
David Robinson	12	0.52
Dave DeBusschere	12	0.52
Gobert	12	0.52
LeBron	11	0.48
Dray	11	0.48
Kawhi	10	0.43
Karl Malone	9	0.39
Artis Gilmore	9	0.39
Dikembe	9	0.39
Dwight	9	0.39
McHale	9	0.39
Giannis	9	0.39
Sidney Moncrief	9	0.39
Mo Cheeks	9	0.39
Alvin Robertson	8	0.35
Mark Eaton	8	0.35
Mookie Blaylock	8	0.35
Jerry West	7	0.30
Nate Thurmond	7	0.30
AD	6	0.26
Paul George	6	0.26
Rajon Rondo	6	0.26
Buck Williams	6	0.26
Stockton	5	0.22
Jimmy	5	0.22
Dave Cowens	4	0.17
Alonzo Mourning	4	0.17
Larry Nance	4	0.17
Bill Walton	4	0.17
AK47	4	0.17
Horace Grant	4	0.17
Shaq	3	0.13
Moses	3	0.13
D Wade	3	0.13
Larry	3	0.13
Ewing	3	0.13
Eddie Jones	3	0.13
Tyson Chandler	3	0.13
Iggy	3	0.13
Tree Rollins	3	0.13
Dr J	2	0.09
Wilt	2	0.09
Elvin Hayes	2	0.09
Willis Reed	2	0.09
Chauncey	2	0.09
Clifford Robinson	2	0.09
Nate McMillan	2	0.09
Bill Russell	1	0.04
Jack Sikma	1	0.04
Klay	1	0.04
Horford	1	0.04
Millsap	1	0.04
Marc Gasol	1	0.04
Fat Lever	1	0.04
AC Green	1	0.04

We finish with All-NBA appearances. There are 1.5 goat points available. The scoring system is a little more complicated here. For All-NBA appearances, you get 3 points for a first team showing, 2 points for a second team showing, and 1 point for a third team showing. For All-ABA appearances (where only two teams existed rather than three), you get 2 points for a first team showing and 1 point for a second team showing. We then do the same add it all up and there’s your final number thing we did above for All-Defense. 128 of our players made at least one All-NBA (or ABA) appearance.

Player	All-NBA	GOAT POINTS
LeBron	47	1.50
Kareem	40	1.28
Kobe	39	1.24
Tim Duncan	38	1.21
Karl Malone	38	1.21
Jerry West	34	1.09
Bob Cousy	34	1.09
MJ	32	1.02
Shaq	32	1.02
Bob Pettit	32	1.02
Dolph Schayes	30	0.96
Elgin Baylor	30	0.96
Larry	29	0.93
Magic	29	0.93
Oscar	29	0.93
Dr J	28	0.89
Hakeem	27	0.86
Wilt	27	0.86
John Havlicek	26	0.83
KD	26	0.83
Chuck	26	0.83
Bill Russell	25	0.80
Dirk	25	0.80
Rick Barry	25	0.80
Chris Paul	24	0.77
Stockton	21	0.67
KG	20	0.64
David Robinson	20	0.64
Moses	20	0.64
Dwight	19	0.61
George Gervin	19	0.61
Harden	19	0.61
Steph	19	0.61
Gary Payton	18	0.57
Russ	18	0.57
Bill Sharman	18	0.57
George Mikan	18	0.57
Kidd	17	0.54
Walt Frazier	16	0.51
Giannis	16	0.51
AI	16	0.51
Pippen	15	0.48
D Wade	15	0.48
Ewing	15	0.48
Elvin Hayes	15	0.48
Nash	15	0.48
Hal Greer	14	0.45
T-Mac	14	0.45
Kawhi	13	0.41
IT	13	0.41
Dominique	13	0.41
Jerry Lucas	13	0.41
Tiny Archibald	13	0.41
Billy Cunningham	13	0.41
AD	12	0.38
Dame	12	0.38
Sidney Moncrief	11	0.35
Willis Reed	11	0.35
Grant Hill	11	0.35
Artis Gilmore	10	0.32
Paul Arizin	10	0.32
Ed Macauley	10	0.32
Pistol Pete	10	0.32
CWebb	10	0.32
Tim Hardaway	10	0.32
Jokic	10	0.32
Clyde Drexler	9	0.29
Kevin Johnson	9	0.29
Paul George	8	0.26
Melo	8	0.26
Blake	8	0.26
Mullin	8	0.26
Yao	7	0.22
Dave Bing	7	0.22
LaMarcus Aldridge	7	0.22
Tony Parker	7	0.22
Marques Johnson	7	0.22
Dave Cowens	6	0.19
Alex English	6	0.19
Dan Issel	6	0.19
Pau	6	0.19
David Thompson	6	0.19
Sam Jones	6	0.19
Mark Price	6	0.19
Gobert	5	0.16
Alonzo Mourning	5	0.16
Bill Walton	5	0.16
Marc Gasol	5	0.16
Paul Pierce	5	0.16
Bob McAdoo	5	0.16
Dikembe	4	0.13
Jimmy	4	0.13
Chauncey	4	0.13
Kyrie	4	0.13
Adrian Dantley	4	0.13
K Love	4	0.13
Dray	3	0.10
McHale	3	0.10
Ray Allen	3	0.10
Robert Parish	3	0.10
Vince	3	0.10
Wes Unseld	3	0.10
Reggie	3	0.10
Earl Monroe	3	0.10
D Rose	3	0.10
Dennis Rodman	2	0.06
Dave DeBusschere	2	0.06
Alvin Robertson	2	0.06
Buck Williams	2	0.06
Klay	2	0.06
Fat Lever	2	0.06
Bosh	2	0.06
James Worthy	2	0.06
Bailey Howell	2	0.06
Zelmo Beaty	2	0.06
Shawn Marion	2	0.06
KAT	2	0.06
Elton Brand	2	0.06
Manu	2	0.06
Rod Strickland	2	0.06
Bobby Jones	1	0.03
Rajon Rondo	1	0.03
Eddie Jones	1	0.03
Tyson Chandler	1	0.03
Horford	1	0.03
Joe Johnson	1	0.03
Kyle Lowry	1	0.03
Detlef Schrempf	1	0.03

With that, we can get to our overall regular season awards leaderboard. There are three players with zero points that I will include here.

Player	RSA GOAT POINTS
Kareem	7.61
MJ	7.23
LeBron	6.93
Bill Russell	5.61
Dr J	5.10
Wilt	5.09
Tim Duncan	4.91
Magic	4.69
Larry	4.64
Kobe	4.51
Karl Malone	4.25
KG	3.94
Hakeem	3.72
Moses	3.68
Bob Pettit	3.51
David Robinson	3.47
Shaq	3.35
Giannis	3.14
Oscar	2.97
Jerry West	2.85
Dwight	2.73
KD	2.69
Bob Cousy	2.63
Dirk	2.58
Steph	2.57
Harden	2.54
Chris Paul	2.46
Nash	2.45
Dikembe	2.44
Gary Payton	2.39
Elgin Baylor	2.26
Kawhi	2.23
Artis Gilmore	2.15
John Havlicek	2.08
Gobert	1.96
Jokic	1.89
Dave Cowens	1.83
Kidd	1.82
Alonzo Mourning	1.82
Pippen	1.81
George Gervin	1.78
Chuck	1.77
AI	1.77
Dolph Schayes	1.77
Sidney Moncrief	1.76
Russ	1.73
Willis Reed	1.67
Rick Barry	1.61
Dennis Rodman	1.57
Elvin Hayes	1.56
Billy Cunningham	1.54
Walt Frazier	1.49
D Wade	1.48
Bob McAdoo	1.47
Stockton	1.41
Bill Walton	1.30
AD	1.25
Bobby Jones	1.22
Paul Arizin	1.21
Ewing	1.19
Mark Eaton	1.15
Dominique	1.07
Paul George	1.07
IT	1.05
Wes Unseld	1.04
Dave DeBusschere	1.01
Bill Sharman	1.00
Clyde Drexler	1.00
Hal Greer	0.97
Melo	0.96
D Rose	0.94
Tiny Archibald	0.91
Grant Hill	0.90
McHale	0.86
Nate Thurmond	0.85
David Thompson	0.82
T-Mac	0.82
George Mikan	0.78
Dray	0.78
Jerry Lucas	0.78
Dave Bing	0.77
Pistol Pete	0.76
Blake	0.75
Dan Issel	0.74
Marc Gasol	0.74
Dame	0.70
Zelmo Beaty	0.69
Ed Macauley	0.69
Paul Pierce	0.69
Jimmy	0.66
Lenny Wilkens	0.66
Yao	0.64
Bosh	0.64
Alvin Robertson	0.62
Ray Allen	0.62
Alex English	0.61
Bob Lanier	0.60
Mo Cheeks	0.60
LaMarcus Aldridge	0.59
CWebb	0.58
Tim Hardaway	0.58
Robert Parish	0.57
Tony Parker	0.54
Mullin	0.52
Vince	0.52
Pau	0.51
Rajon Rondo	0.50
Kyrie	0.50
Marques Johnson	0.49
Buck Williams	0.48
Chauncey	0.48
Sam Jones	0.45
Kevin Johnson	0.45
Adrian Dantley	0.44
James Worthy	0.43
Jack Sikma	0.41
Mark Price	0.40
Mookie Blaylock	0.40
Joe Johnson	0.40
K Love	0.39
Bailey Howell	0.38
Klay	0.37
Chet Walker	0.37
Reggie	0.36
Kyle Lowry	0.35
Horford	0.34
Larry Nance	0.33
Eddie Jones	0.32
Earl Monroe	0.31
Shawn Marion	0.27
Millsap	0.25
AK47	0.23
Horace Grant	0.23
KAT	0.22
Tyson Chandler	0.21
Fat Lever	0.21
Bill Laimbeer	0.21
Sheed Wallace	0.21
Walt Bellamy	0.21
Detlef Schrempf	0.19
Iggy	0.18
Elton Brand	0.17
Manu	0.17
Clifford Robinson	0.14
Tree Rollins	0.13
Terrell Brandon	0.11
Terry Porter	0.11
AC Green	0.10
Nate McMillan	0.09
Rod Strickland	0.06
Doc Rivers	0.05
Jeff Hornacek	0.05
Otis Thorpe	0.05
Vlade Divac	0.05
Andre Miller	0.00
Jason Terry	0.00
Sam Perkins	0.00

And that leads us to our new cumulative leaderboard through eleven of fifteen categories.

Player	TOTAL GOAT POINTS
Kareem	43.31
LeBron	43.26
Wilt	41.38
MJ	40.98
Karl Malone	38.57
Tim Duncan	37.87
Dr J	36.70
KG	36.37
Larry	35.56
Bill Russell	35.51
David Robinson	35.50
Magic	35.46
Kobe	35.30
Hakeem	35.27
Shaq	35.08
Chris Paul	34.80
Dirk	34.65
Moses	34.22
Oscar	34.02
Stockton	33.83
Chuck	33.38
Artis Gilmore	33.06
KD	32.92
Bob Pettit	32.49
Harden	32.42
Dwight	31.81
Jerry West	31.77
Kidd	31.38
Gary Payton	30.73
Steph	30.68
Russ	30.03
Giannis	29.81
Dolph Schayes	29.75
Nash	29.75
Paul Pierce	29.50
Clyde Drexler	29.50
Rick Barry	29.44
Pippen	29.40
Elvin Hayes	29.38
Ewing	29.32
Pau	29.29
John Havlicek	29.25
D Wade	29.18
Elgin Baylor	29.13
Dan Issel	29.05
Jokic	29.04
Reggie	28.95
AD	28.85
George Mikan	28.67
AI	28.66
Robert Parish	28.59
Dominique	28.27
Ray Allen	28.23
Dikembe	28.20
George Gervin	27.89
Walt Bellamy	27.74
Vince	27.68
Shawn Marion	27.63
Kawhi	27.60
Bob Cousy	27.55
Melo	27.38
Bob Lanier	27.34
T-Mac	27.14
Gobert	27.02
Alonzo Mourning	26.89
LaMarcus Aldridge	26.88
CWebb	26.71
Jack Sikma	26.68
Wes Unseld	26.54
Jerry Lucas	26.49
Bosh	26.34
Adrian Dantley	26.28
Paul Arizin	26.25
Dame	26.18
Billy Cunningham	26.13
Chauncey	26.12
Grant Hill	26.08
McHale	26.03
Bob McAdoo	25.99
Buck Williams	25.94
Elton Brand	25.90
Walt Frazier	25.88
Dave Cowens	25.86
K Love	25.85
IT	25.84
Larry Nance	25.80
Tony Parker	25.68
Alex English	25.65
Horford	25.65
KAT	25.64
Jimmy	25.62
Terry Porter	25.61
Kyle Lowry	25.57
Bailey Howell	25.56
Tim Hardaway	25.51
Nate Thurmond	25.48
Manu	25.36
Chet Walker	25.35
Kevin Johnson	25.35
Sheed Wallace	25.34
Paul George	25.32
Ed Macauley	25.17
Horace Grant	25.17
Mullin	25.16
Bill Laimbeer	25.15
Millsap	25.14
Hal Greer	25.14
Jeff Hornacek	25.12
Vlade Divac	25.11
Willis Reed	25.11
Blake	25.06
Dennis Rodman	25.06
Detlef Schrempf	25.04
Mo Cheeks	25.03
Lenny Wilkens	25.02
Zelmo Beaty	24.97
Sidney Moncrief	24.94
Marc Gasol	24.89
Andre Miller	24.88
Iggy	24.86
Eddie Jones	24.71
Jason Terry	24.67
Sam Perkins	24.56
Bobby Jones	24.51
Kyrie	24.50
Rod Strickland	24.34
Mookie Blaylock	24.32
Clifford Robinson	24.30
Joe Johnson	24.23
Otis Thorpe	24.19
Yao	24.10
Tyson Chandler	23.89
Tiny Archibald	23.88
Mark Price	23.83
AC Green	23.75
AK47	23.73
Marques Johnson	23.72
Dave Bing	23.65
Sam Jones	23.61
Bill Sharman	23.57
Dave DeBusschere	23.52
James Worthy	23.30
Fat Lever	23.19
Rajon Rondo	23.07
Terrell Brandon	22.88
Alvin Robertson	22.66
David Thompson	22.61
Bill Walton	22.59
Dray	22.30
Doc Rivers	22.19
Pistol Pete	22.14
D Rose	21.78
Earl Monroe	21.28
Klay	20.82
Nate McMillan	20.76
Tree Rollins	20.75
Mark Eaton	20.21

Some notes –

• Kareem narrowly grabs the top spot from LeBron for the moment
• Wilt and MJ still within reach
• There still really aren’t any big surprises in the top 30-40
• Steph, Russ, and Giannis sit at 30-32 and Steph (especially) and Giannis should have some kick left in them
• KD sits a little further ahead of that trio at 23, and Harden is right behind him at 25
• Paul Pierce really didn’t have much in the way of regular season awards, but he still sits in 35th. Pierce has seemingly become an easy target in recent years, but he had a really nice career
• Jokic (46) is still hanging around, though there’s not much of a postseason resume to speak of with him
• AD is also floating around the top 50 at 48. Davis got plenty of flack for his NBA 75 inclusion, but maybe that was somewhat unwarranted. That said, Dwight Howard is 26th, and that direct comparison is where most of the criticism came from
• Kawhi’s lack of regular seasons awards stalled his charge a bit. He’s at 59 ahead of some categories that should benefit him
• Melo sits at 61 and doesn’t have the greatest playoff resume. He’s potentially at risk of a finish outside the top 75
• So is Dame, another controversial NBA 75 member, who’s in 74th
• Isiah Thomas sits in 85th and still has plenty of work to do to reach a more respectable finish
• Kyrie (125) is now more than 60 spots back of Bob Cousy (60)
• Both Draymond and Klay remain in the bottom nine. We’ll see how much ground they can make up down the stretch

This one is starting to get a little wonky on me too, so I’ll cut early and head onto our third piece, which can be found here. Most of the categories that remain will involve playoff accomplishments, play, etc.