The Official Michael Regan NBA GOAT Rankings – Intro and a Big Chunk of Work
90 min readA quick note before we start this – this is really long. It couldn’t even fit in one article; the site started deleting things on me as I tried to add them. There are a bunch of tables and a decent amount of paragraphs and just a lot of things. So a quick run over where everything is is in order. Immediately after this, I will (relatively) quickly go over what the point of all this is, what greatest means to me, the factors that I used to pick our 157 players (who are not necessarily the 157 greatest players of all-time but should contain the top 100 or more), and then a very brief overiew of the categories we’re taking into account and how much they’re worth. After that is a decent chunk of the work, for lack of a better word, where you will find deeper descriptions of the categories and subcategories and their values, all of the tables that rank all of those players based on those categories and subcategories, and more tables that keep us updated on the overall leaderboard as we go. Our second article, which is also linked at the very end of this one, contains some more work. Our third article contains the rest of the work. Our final article contains the final GOAT list, which stands on its own there. By reading the little intro that follows here and then going to the list itself, you’d probably get what you need and want. But all of the work in between should answer any deeper questions on how exactly we arrived at the final list.
I’m starting this on June 17, which means Steph Curry just sealed his fourth title less than twelve hours ago (ignore the fact that it’s now October 17). It’s another significant accolade in the trophy cabinet of one of the game’s all-time greats, and that means it’s time to fire up the engines and get back to the debate that never ends. Who’s the greatest NBA player of all time, and in what order do all the other greats follow them? It’s an inherently endless debate given the lack of definite categories to consider and, equally if not more important, the lack of agreement on how we should weigh all of those potential categories. What does a title mean? An All-NBA appearance? Points? Assists? Advanced metrics? The elusive eye test? There’s no single objective approach to take here, even if we only take the objective numerical stats into account.
And that’s where we need to start here. Basketball is a beautiful game, and it’s meant to be played out in front of our eyes. The strategy, the athletic feats, the butterflies during crunch time; these aren’t replaceable by numbers. But when it comes to accurately measuring players, rather than simply enjoying the game, we need to work on closing our eyes a little bit. The eye test is a great tool. There are things the numbers can’t tell us that body language, feel for the game, and more can. But relying on the eye test leaves us with a severely flawed picture, one that, to give the stereotypical example, might emphasize the ball skills of a Jamal Crawford over the less flashy but likely more important contributions of a solid three-and-D wing. We all have players that we watched in college or early in their careers that were going to be that guy – until they weren’t. We have lying eyes. We also can’t see the past nearly as well as we see the future, and there is undoubtedly a bias towards the players we grow up with and watch the most. These things matter in an all-time debate. None of this is to say that the accolades or numbers are perfect. Defensive stats are notoriously messy, and there are flaws in comparing across eras, especially with advanced stats that often don’t carry back very many decades. Accolades are difficult to judge across eras too given the differences in how difficult they are to achieve in any given year and the lack of certain accolades in early league history. But there is at least some solid ground to stand on there. We can argue all day about our opinions after watching LeBron or KD, and there’s no way to definitively win that debate. No such argument exists when we can say Player A won this and averaged that while Player B won that and averaged this. So we will limit this to accolades and stats, and we’ll get into the weighing and attempts to add era-based context later.
Before we get there, let’s touch on two more important elements. First, what does greatest mean? It’s a pretty crucial question to answer. Because Tracy McGrady may have been a better basketball player – a more talented basketball player – than, say, Shawn Marion (I may be giving Shawn some unnecessary flack here but he’s the first name that popped into my head). Kyrie Irving may be a better basketball player than Bob Cousy was. But that’s not what we’re talking about here. We’re ranking players by the greatness of their careers – how much did they produce, how much did they accomplish, and how long were they able to play at a high level. We’re not arguing about peak LeBron vs. peak Jordan in a game of one v. one or some hypothetical game where they have the exact same rosters around them. How do their careers stack up? This is another reason we can pass on the eye test. It’s a useful tool, but much of that use is lost when we go from judging how good an individual player was/is to judging how great their career was. To be blunt, what they did matters, and it doesn’t really matter how they looked doing it.
Second, before we go through the details of what to consider, we need to decide who to consider. In the past, I’ve broken small groups of players into subjective tiers before going for the more objective comparisons between them. Here, we’re going to try to consider a much larger pool of players all at once. So what gets you on the list?
- 90+ career win shares
There’s era-to-era variation in this, but you’re generally looking at 8-11 win shares in any given season being enough to put you in the league’s top 15. Multiply that by 10 to give someone the equivalent of ten top fifteen seasons, a relatively decent marker for sustained success, and we get to 80-110 career win shares. Then we consider a little bit of extra longevity and pick 95 and call it a day. This is fairly arbitrary, but it does a good job of using an overall measure of impact to give us an initial big group of deserving players to work with without going too crazy. And it leaves us with exactly 100 players, presented in order of career win shares (note: ABA stats included).
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
LeBron James
Wilt Chamberlain
Karl Malone
Michael Jordan
John Stockton
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Chris Paul
Kevin Garnett
Artis Gilmore
Oscar Robertson
Shaquille O’Neal
Julius Erving
Moses Malone
David Robinson
Charles Barkley
Reggie Miller
Kobe Bryant
Bill Russell
Hakeem Olajuwon
Jerry West
Dan Issel
Magic Johnson
Kevin Durant
Paul Pierce
James Harden
Robert Parish
Larry Bird
Gary Payton
Ray Allen
Pau Gasol
Dolph Schayes
Dwight Howard
Jason Kidd
Bob Pettit
Clyde Drexler
Adrian Dantely
John Havlicek
Walt Bellamy
Steve Nash
Rick Barry
Patrick Ewing
Vince Carter
Scottie Pippen
Shawn Marion
Chauncey Billups
Elvin Hayes
Dwyane Wade
Stephen Curry
Buck Williams
Horace Grant
Dominique Wilkins
Chet Walker
Bob Lanier
Dikembe Mutombo
George Gervin
LaMarcus Aldridge
Bailey Howell
Walt Frazier
Kevin McHale
Jack Sikma
Tony Parker
Terry Porter
Wes Unseld
Elton Brand
Larry Nance (Sr)
Detlef Schrempf
Jeff Hornacek
Paul Arizin
George Mikan
Carmelo Anthony
Russell Westbrook
Manu Ginobli
Otis Thorpe
Zelmo Beaty
Chris Bosh
Bill Laimbeer
Sam Perkins
Rasheed Wallace
Kyle Lowry
Elgin Baylor
Maurice Cheeks
Hal Greer
Tyson Chandler
Jason Terry
Andre Miller
Alex English
Eddie Jones
Ed Macauley
Al Horford
Andre Iguodala
Grant Hill
AC Green
Allen Iverson
Jerry Lucas
Tracy McGrady
Vlade Divac
Lenny Wilkens
Paul Millsap
- Career VORP above 40
Unlike win shares, VORP doesn’t go back to the league’s earliest days, but we still have about 50 years of data to go with here. Using the same idea as above, we get a VORP of of somewhere around 4, give or take a point across eras, being good for top fifteen in the league. Multiply that by 10 and we get the 45 number. There are only sixty-two players in league history that meet this benchmark, and only ten of them are new additions to the list, bringing our total number to 110.
Nikola Jokic
Damian Lillard
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Anthony Davis
Chris Webber
Andrei Kirilenko
Isiah Thomas
Chris Mullin
Bobby Jones
Kawhi Leonard
- Career BPM over 3
You’ve generally needed a BPM over 4 to finish in the top fifteen in any given season, but since this is an average stat rather than a cumulative stat (in other words the stat itself tends to go down as a player plays late into their career rather than the rate at which the stat increases going down), we’ll cut down to 3 to get a few more potentially worthy options. This will include some current players that maybe aren’t deserving but are still at or near the peak of their powers (KAT), but that’s a sacrifice we’ll have to make. This adds 19 more names, bringing us to 129 overall.
Karl-Anthony Towns
Jimmy Butler
Kyrie Irving
Paul George
Rudy Gobert
Kevin Johnson
Mark Price
Sidney Moncrief
Terrell Brandon
Blake Griffin
Kevin Love
Fat Lever
Marques Johnson
Nate McMillan
Yao Ming
Doc Rivers
Tim Hardaway
Marc Gasol
Mookie Blaylock
- An MVP
There can be some debate here, but the MVP suggests that this player had at least one season where they were a reasonable pick to be the best player in the league. That’s a significant claim to be able to make, and there are very few cases (barring maybe Derrick Rose) where that type of season is relatively unique in the larger story of the player’s career. This adds 6 names to the list, bringing us to 135.
Derrick Rose
Bill Walton
Bob McAdoo
Dave Cowens
Willis Reed
Bob Cousy
- Last Additions
I’ll add a few other names for longevity, peak, etc.
Joe Johnson (top 30 minutes played)
Clifford Robinson (top 30 minutes played)
Rod Strickland (top 20 assists)
Nate Thurmond (top 15 rebounds)
Alvin Robertson (top 15 steals in just 10 seasons)
Tree Rollins (top 10 blocks)
Mark Eaton (top 10 blocks)
Draymond Green
Rajon Rondo
Klay Thompson
Pete Maravich
David Thompson
Alonzo Mourning
James Worthy
Bill Sharman
Dennis Rodman
Earl Monroe
Sam Jones
Dave DeBusschere
Billy Cunningham
Dave Bing
Nate Archibald
Alright. That’s 157 names. Let’s get after it.
So now for the important part – how exactly do we do this? What goes into this ranking? Here’s how I see all of the possible categories and their respective weights. There are a variety of subcategories we can look into for each one. For example, scoring includes pure volume, efficiency, perimeter shooting, and free throw effectiveness, which is a lot more complicated statistically than something like rebounding, where there are just a few stats that we can reliably use. We’ll get to the those subcategories and their weight within a category as we move along. Also note here that we won’t be tracking something like career points under scoring, since that would just be a repetitive measure of the longevity category. The weights themselves are based on a (subjective) view of how much this stuff matters. How does scoring stack up with blocks or longevity or championships?
Category | Points |
Scoring | 10 |
Playmaking | 5 |
Rebounding | 5 |
Steals | 2 |
Blocks | 2 |
Fouls | 1 |
Longevity | 10 |
Offensive Advanced Metrics | 3 |
Defensive Advanced Metrics | 3 |
Overall Advanced Metrics | 8 |
Regular Season Awards | 10 |
Championships and Role | 14 |
Finals Record and Appearances | 7 |
Playoff Record | 7.5 |
We get a sum of 100 here. Essentially, how this is going to work is that the top mark in any given subcategory gets the full point allotment and then everyone else gets a certain percentage of that total given how they stack up relative to the top mark. And then we add the numbers up across all the categories and rank everyone based on how high their final number, which will be somewhere between 0 and 100. Simple enough. I have two categories that I cut at the end, and I will discuss those at the end of our work. To scoring we go.
SCORING (10)
Scoring gets a high value here, almost as high as any other category. Part of the reason is that scoring itself is important. It’s not the only important stat or contribution that one can make, and there is the risk of overvaluing a player just because they score a decent amount of points. But there is ultimately no statistic or skill that has a more direct effect on winning a basketball game than the ability to put ball in basket. And it’s very often the best players that are asked to do it the most and still do it with decent efficiency. The other reason – we can break down scoring into a lot more subcategories than something like rebounding, and the higher value here allows us to give some of those subcategories the weight they deserve.
Subcategories:
- Pure Volume (4) – Points per game (2.5), Points per 36 minutes (1.5)
- Efficiency (3) – FG% (1.5), TS% (1.5)
- Perimeter Shooting (2) – Threes per game (0.5), Made threes per game (0.5), 3P% (1)
- Free Throw Effectiveness (1) – Free throws per game (0.3), FT per FG attempt (0.2), FT% (0.5)
Let’s start with pure volume. We could just look at simple points per game, but that doesn’t take into account the differences between eras. The late 40s and early 50s were very low scoring, for example. The 60s were very high scoring. The 70s and 80s were somewhere in the middle before the mid 90s kicked off a roughly 20 year span of the league’s lowest scoring days since the very beginning. The last five or so years have returned to something similar to the 70s and 80s. The same number of individual points has been a different part of the overall scoring puzzle across eras. To adjust for this, I took the league’s highest scoring season (1962), and set that 118.8 points per game (per team not combined) figure as the standard. I then divided 118.8 by the average team scoring per game in every other NBA season. This led to a multiplier of 1-something for every single season. I then took the average of the multipler’s for the seasons of a player’s career (so the average of the multipliers from 2004-2022 for LeBron for example) and multiplied that average by the player’s points per game career average. So this new era-adjusted figure we have is above everyone’s career average, but that increase was more for players that played in low-scoring eras such as the first decade or the late 90s and 2000s. We then ranked players by their era-adjusted scoring total, with MJ at the top with 34.57 “points” per game. So Jordan gets 2.5 points for the points per game subcategory. To determine everyone else’s score, I divided their era-adjusted average by 34.57 and then multiplied this number by 2.5 to give them a score based on their position relative to Jordan. This is going to be the first of many massive leaderboards, but here it is, with EA standing for era-adjusted. Remember that this is just our 157 players, and not the all-time leaderboard for PPG specifically, though you’d certainly see a very similar list at the top either way.
One other quick note – some of the multipliers throughout will read as “1899-12”. I frankly have no idea what this means and can only assume it’s a weird quirk of Google Sheets, which I had to use instead of Excel. But the important thing is that this figure still attributes the correct multiplier; it just says 1899-12 for some reason.
Player | PPG | Multiplier | EA PPG | GOAT POINTS |
MJ | 30.1 | 1.148588526 | 34.57 | 2.50 |
AI | 26.7 | 1.229532885 | 32.83 | 2.37 |
George Mikan | 23.1 | 1.401107912 | 32.78 | 2.37 |
LeBron | 27.1 | 1.165731822 | 31.59 | 2.28 |
Wilt | 30.1 | 1.041811305 | 31.36 | 2.27 |
KD | 27.2 | 1.148422941 | 31.24 | 2.26 |
Kobe | 25 | 1.218594521 | 30.46 | 2.20 |
Karl Malone | 25 | 1.177241421 | 29.43 | 2.13 |
Bob Pettit | 26.4 | 1.099298299 | 29.02 | 2.10 |
Shaq | 23.7 | 1.214234076 | 28.78 | 2.08 |
Elgin Baylor | 27.4 | 1.041373984 | 28.53 | 2.06 |
Harden | 24.9 | 1.142242686 | 28.44 | 2.06 |
Jerry West | 27 | 1.048495596 | 28.31 | 2.05 |
Dominique | 24.8 | 1.139822 | 28.27 | 2.04 |
Paul Arizin | 22.8 | 1.223360868 | 27.89 | 2.02 |
Steph | 24.3 | 1.142242686 | 27.76 | 2.01 |
Dame | 24.6 | 1.123947205 | 27.65 | 2.00 |
George Gervin | 25.1 | 1.087176393 | 27.29 | 1.97 |
Oscar | 25.7 | 1.048495596 | 26.95 | 1.95 |
Kareem | 24.6 | 1.091813887 | 26.86 | 1.94 |
AD | 23.8 | 1.123947205 | 26.75 | 1.93 |
Rick Barry | 24.8 | 1.07741227 | 26.72 | 1.93 |
Pistol Pete | 24.2 | 1.103432424 | 26.70 | 1.93 |
Larry | 24.3 | 1.09438097 | 26.59 | 1.92 |
Adrian Dantley | 24.3 | 1.092415592 | 26.55 | 1.92 |
Dr J | 24.2 | 1.084259265 | 26.24 | 1.90 |
Melo | 22.5 | 1.165731822 | 26.23 | 1.90 |
Kyrie | 23.1 | 1.133919719 | 26.19 | 1.89 |
Russ | 22.8 | 1.145511066 | 26.12 | 1.89 |
D Wade | 22 | 1899-12 | 26.06 | 1.88 |
Chuck | 22.1 | 1.151342849 | 25.44 | 1.84 |
KAT | 23.2 | 1.094889321 | 25.40 | 1.84 |
CWebb | 20.7 | 1.22521362 | 25.36 | 1.83 |
Hakeem | 21.8 | 1.162146067 | 25.33 | 1.83 |
David Robinson | 21.1 | 1.19648121 | 25.25 | 1.83 |
Dirk | 20.7 | 1.200673498 | 24.85 | 1.80 |
David Thompson | 22.7 | 1.08858424 | 24.71 | 1.79 |
Ewing | 21 | 1.167436885 | 24.52 | 1.77 |
Dan Issel | 22.6 | 1.080012629 | 24.41 | 1.77 |
Bob McAdoo | 22.1 | 1.101174423 | 24.34 | 1.76 |
Giannis | 21.8 | 1.114273652 | 24.29 | 1.76 |
T-Mac | 19.6 | 1.227591343 | 24.06 | 1.74 |
Paul Pierce | 19.7 | 1.212010863 | 23.88 | 1.73 |
Alex English | 21.5 | 1.092415592 | 23.49 | 1.70 |
Paul George | 20.4 | 1.138823999 | 23.23 | 1.68 |
Tim Duncan | 19 | 1.218204433 | 23.15 | 1.67 |
Ray Allen | 18.9 | 1.223729063 | 23.13 | 1.67 |
Bosh | 19.2 | 1.203188205 | 23.10 | 1.67 |
Clyde Drexler | 20.4 | 1.132339993 | 23.10 | 1.67 |
Yao | 19 | 1.213888786 | 23.06 | 1.67 |
Ed Macauley | 17.5 | 1.312904764 | 22.98 | 1.66 |
Elvin Hayes | 21 | 1.092315925 | 22.94 | 1.66 |
Billy Cunningham | 21.2 | 1.068017603 | 22.64 | 1.64 |
Blake | 19.8 | 1.138823999 | 22.55 | 1.63 |
Dolph Schayes | 18.5 | 1.217730419 | 22.53 | 1.63 |
Moses | 20.3 | 1.104457111 | 22.42 | 1.62 |
John Havlicek | 20.8 | 1.073771986 | 22.33 | 1.62 |
Bill Sharman | 17.8 | 1.243666401 | 22.14 | 1.60 |
Bob Lanier | 20.1 | 1899-12 | 22.11 | 1.60 |
Klay | 19.5 | 1.133919719 | 22.11 | 1.60 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 19.1 | 1899-12 | 22.00 | 1.59 |
Dave Bing | 20.3 | 1.081417787 | 21.95 | 1.59 |
Kawhi | 19.2 | 1.139897586 | 21.89 | 1.58 |
Marques Johnson | 20.1 | 1.085699 | 21.82 | 1.58 |
KG | 17.8 | 1.217421918 | 21.67 | 1.57 |
Reggie | 18.2 | 1.190599255 | 21.67 | 1.57 |
Jokic | 19.7 | 1.094889321 | 21.57 | 1.56 |
Magic | 19.5 | 1.099439795 | 21.44 | 1.55 |
Walt Bellamy | 20.1 | 1.059350421 | 21.29 | 1.54 |
IT | 19.2 | 1.103053994 | 21.18 | 1.53 |
Tim Hardaway | 17.7 | 1.19648121 | 21.18 | 1.53 |
Mullin | 18.2 | 1.162652999 | 21.16 | 1.53 |
Bob Cousy | 18.4 | 1.149516863 | 21.15 | 1.53 |
Chris Paul | 18.1 | 1.156160812 | 20.93 | 1.51 |
Kevin Johnson | 17.9 | 1.168481599 | 20.92 | 1.51 |
D Rose | 18.2 | 1.145511066 | 20.85 | 1.51 |
Alonzo Mourning | 17.1 | 1.219150589 | 20.85 | 1.51 |
Tiny Archibald | 18.8 | 1.100084233 | 20.68 | 1.50 |
Walt Frazier | 18.9 | 1.086851361 | 20.54 | 1.49 |
Earl Monroe | 18.8 | 1.086851361 | 20.43 | 1.48 |
Grant Hill | 16.7 | 1.221918579 | 20.41 | 1.48 |
Artis Gilmore | 18.8 | 1.085065587 | 20.40 | 1.48 |
Pau | 17 | 1.191420785 | 20.25 | 1.46 |
K Love | 17.6 | 1.145511066 | 20.16 | 1.46 |
Hal Greer | 19.2 | 1.045555 | 20.07 | 1.45 |
Jimmy | 17.7 | 1.133919719 | 20.07 | 1.45 |
Vince | 16.7 | 1.194397966 | 19.95 | 1.44 |
Willis Reed | 18.7 | 1.05723853 | 19.77 | 1.43 |
Gary Payton | 16.3 | 1.20958924 | 19.72 | 1.43 |
McHale | 17.9 | 1.097557 | 19.65 | 1.42 |
James Worthy | 17.6 | 1.103814939 | 19.43 | 1.40 |
Dave Cowens | 17.6 | 1.102659556 | 19.41 | 1.40 |
Chet Walker | 18.2 | 1.063915838 | 19.36 | 1.40 |
Bailey Howell | 18.7 | 1899-12 | 19.33 | 1.40 |
Elton Brand | 15.9 | 1899-12 | 19.27 | 1.39 |
Pippen | 16.1 | 1.18873908 | 19.14 | 1.38 |
Larry Nance | 17.1 | 1.103053994 | 18.86 | 1.36 |
Joe Johnson | 16 | 1.173433097 | 18.77 | 1.36 |
Chauncey | 15.2 | 1.223595114 | 18.60 | 1.34 |
Sam Jones | 17.7 | 1.045059001 | 18.50 | 1.34 |
Shawn Marion | 15.2 | 1.215593493 | 18.48 | 1.34 |
Tony Parker | 15.5 | 1899-12 | 18.47 | 1.34 |
Dwight | 15.7 | 1.15983089 | 18.21 | 1.32 |
Eddie Jones | 14.8 | 1.229125782 | 18.19 | 1.32 |
Zelmo Beaty | 17.1 | 1.057393672 | 18.08 | 1.31 |
Jerry Lucas | 17 | 1.058423233 | 17.99 | 1.30 |
Sheed Wallace | 14.4 | 1.224714187 | 17.64 | 1.28 |
Nash | 14.3 | 1.223729063 | 17.50 | 1.27 |
Mark Price | 15.2 | 1.146319894 | 17.42 | 1.26 |
Lenny Wilkens | 16.5 | 1.055788872 | 17.42 | 1.26 |
Clifford Robinson | 14.2 | 1.204072081 | 17.10 | 1.24 |
Kyle Lowry | 14.8 | 1.151874471 | 17.05 | 1.23 |
Sidney Moncrief | 15.6 | 1.09156229 | 17.03 | 1.23 |
Jack Sikma | 15.6 | 1899-12 | 17.02 | 1.23 |
Dave DeBusschere | 16.1 | 1.056084263 | 17.00 | 1.23 |
Jeff Hornacek | 14.5 | 1.162231678 | 16.85 | 1.22 |
Terrell Brandon | 13.8 | 1.206695772 | 16.65 | 1.20 |
Otis Thorpe | 14 | 1.157332362 | 16.20 | 1.17 |
Detlef Schrempf | 13.9 | 1.162652999 | 16.16 | 1.17 |
Robert Parish | 14.5 | 1.114507674 | 16.16 | 1.17 |
Nate Thurmond | 15 | 1.075361808 | 16.13 | 1.17 |
Jason Terry | 13.4 | 1.20257131 | 16.11 | 1.17 |
Marc Gasol | 14 | 1.151001067 | 16.11 | 1.17 |
Mookie Blaylock | 13.5 | 1.192425045 | 16.10 | 1.16 |
Bill Russell | 15.1 | 1.056421469 | 15.95 | 1.15 |
Manu | 13.3 | 1.195828109 | 15.90 | 1.15 |
Rod Strickland | 13.2 | 1.196048227 | 15.79 | 1.14 |
Horford | 13.7 | 1.148422941 | 15.73 | 1.14 |
Alvin Robertson | 14 | 1.119783067 | 15.68 | 1.13 |
Millsap | 13.4 | 1.151874471 | 15.44 | 1.12 |
Kidd | 12.6 | 1.221918579 | 15.40 | 1.11 |
Fat Lever | 13.9 | 1.103814939 | 15.34 | 1.11 |
Stockton | 13.1 | 1.166728451 | 15.28 | 1.11 |
Andre Miller | 12.5 | 1.212133128 | 15.15 | 1.10 |
Bill Walton | 13.3 | 1.097646135 | 14.60 | 1.06 |
Buck Williams | 12.8 | 1.127879613 | 14.44 | 1.04 |
AK47 | 11.8 | 1.212704985 | 14.31 | 1.03 |
Terry Porter | 12.2 | 1899-12 | 14.24 | 1.03 |
Bill Laimbeer | 12.9 | 1.102763168 | 14.23 | 1.03 |
Vlade Divac | 11.8 | 1.202806736 | 14.19 | 1.03 |
Gobert | 12.4 | 1.114273652 | 13.82 | 1.00 |
Sam Perkins | 11.9 | 1.157332362 | 13.77 | 1.00 |
Horace Grant | 11.2 | 1899-12 | 13.31 | 0.96 |
Iggy | 11.4 | 1.15983089 | 13.22 | 0.96 |
Bobby Jones | 12.1 | 1.086617668 | 13.15 | 0.95 |
Doc Rivers | 10.9 | 1.116647375 | 12.17 | 0.88 |
Mo Cheeks | 11.1 | 1.095481353 | 12.16 | 0.88 |
Dikembe | 9.8 | 1.212367475 | 11.88 | 0.86 |
Wes Unseld | 10.8 | 1899-12 | 11.80 | 0.85 |
Rajon Rondo | 9.8 | 1.151874471 | 11.29 | 0.82 |
AC Green | 9.6 | 1.162652999 | 11.16 | 0.81 |
Dray | 8.7 | 1.123947205 | 9.78 | 0.71 |
Tyson Chandler | 8.2 | 1.184641365 | 9.71 | 0.70 |
Dennis Rodman | 7.3 | 1.162231678 | 8.48 | 0.61 |
Nate McMillan | 5.9 | 1.146319894 | 6.76 | 0.49 |
Mark Eaton | 6 | 1.097757811 | 6.59 | 0.48 |
Tree Rollins | 5.4 | 1.103844009 | 5.96 | 0.43 |
We can do the same exact thing (just 1.5 GOAT points instead of 2.5) with points per 36. This gives a slightly more zoomed in picture of scoring rate rather than one that is dependent on how much a player plays in each game. This can be a misleading stat for players that irregularly play but put up a few big showings in their five-to-ten minute runs, but it can be genuinely helpful in giving a little more rate refinement when comparing players of a similar stature. Giannis, for example, is a player that scores a ton of points despite usually playing five or so minutes less than your average star. You can talk about the minutes side of that too, but on a pure scoring basis, it does mean that Giannis – or someone like KD as we’ll see below – is scoring more efficiently time-wise than their peers. The same process as above results in the table below. I will save a check on the overall GOAT points leaderboard until the end of each big category (so the end of all of the scoring), so the rightmost column here is just in reference to points per 36. Once again, there is an era-adjustment –
Player | PP36 | EAPP36 | GOAT POINTS | |
MJ | 28.3 | 1.148588526 | 32.51 | 1.50 |
KD | 26.6 | 1.148422941 | 30.55 | 1.41 |
Kobe | 24.9 | 1.218594521 | 30.34 | 1.40 |
Shaq | 24.6 | 1.214234076 | 29.87 | 1.38 |
LeBron | 25.6 | 1.165731822 | 29.84 | 1.38 |
Harden | 25.9 | 1.142242686 | 29.58 | 1.36 |
George Gervin | 26.9 | 1.087176393 | 29.25 | 1.35 |
Steph | 25.5 | 1.142242686 | 29.13 | 1.34 |
Dominique | 25.2 | 1.139822 | 28.72 | 1.33 |
AI | 23.3 | 1.229532885 | 28.65 | 1.32 |
George Mikan | 20.1 | 1.41897372 | 28.52 | 1.32 |
Karl Malone | 24.2 | 1.177241421 | 28.49 | 1.31 |
AD | 24.9 | 1.123947205 | 27.99 | 1.29 |
Kyrie | 24.4 | 1.133919719 | 27.67 | 1.28 |
D Wade | 23.3 | 1899-12 | 27.60 | 1.27 |
Dame | 24.4 | 1.123947205 | 27.42 | 1.27 |
Melo | 23.4 | 1.165731822 | 27.28 | 1.26 |
Russ | 23.7 | 1.145511066 | 27.15 | 1.25 |
David Thompson | 24.9 | 1.08858424 | 27.11 | 1.25 |
Bob Pettit | 24.5 | 1.099298299 | 26.93 | 1.24 |
Giannis | 24.1 | 1.114273652 | 26.85 | 1.24 |
Paul Arizin | 21.9 | 1.223360868 | 26.79 | 1.24 |
KAT | 24.4 | 1.094889321 | 26.72 | 1.23 |
Adrian Dantley | 24.4 | 1.092415592 | 26.65 | 1.23 |
Dirk | 22.1 | 1.200673498 | 26.53 | 1.22 |
T-Mac | 21.6 | 1.227591343 | 26.52 | 1.22 |
Alex English | 24.2 | 1.092415592 | 26.44 | 1.22 |
Bob McAdoo | 23.9 | 1.101174423 | 26.32 | 1.21 |
Kareem | 24.1 | 1.091813887 | 26.31 | 1.21 |
David Robinson | 21.8 | 1.19648121 | 26.08 | 1.20 |
Pistol Pete | 23.6 | 1.103432424 | 26.04 | 1.20 |
Jerry West | 24.8 | 1.048495596 | 26.00 | 1.20 |
Dr J | 23.9 | 1.084259265 | 25.91 | 1.20 |
Rick Barry | 23.9 | 1.07741227 | 25.75 | 1.19 |
Ewing | 22 | 1.167436885 | 25.68 | 1.19 |
Elgin Baylor | 24.6 | 1.041373984 | 25.62 | 1.18 |
Dan Issel | 23.7 | 1.080012629 | 25.60 | 1.18 |
Jokic | 23.3 | 1.094889321 | 25.51 | 1.18 |
Yao | 21 | 1.213888786 | 25.49 | 1.18 |
Hakeem | 21.9 | 1.162146067 | 25.45 | 1.17 |
Bill Sharman | 20.3 | 1.243666401 | 25.25 | 1.16 |
Kawhi | 22.1 | 1.139897586 | 25.19 | 1.16 |
Paul Pierce | 20.7 | 1.212010863 | 25.09 | 1.16 |
Chuck | 21.7 | 1.151342849 | 24.98 | 1.15 |
Larry | 22.8 | 1.09438097 | 24.95 | 1.15 |
Paul George | 21.9 | 1.138823999 | 24.94 | 1.15 |
Blake | 21.7 | 1.138823999 | 24.71 | 1.14 |
CWebb | 20.1 | 1.22521362 | 24.63 | 1.14 |
Wilt | 23.6 | 1.041811305 | 24.59 | 1.13 |
Tim Duncan | 20.1 | 1.218204433 | 24.49 | 1.13 |
Klay | 21.4 | 1.133919719 | 24.27 | 1.12 |
Alonzo Mourning | 19.8 | 1.219150589 | 24.14 | 1.11 |
Clyde Drexler | 21.3 | 1.132339993 | 24.12 | 1.11 |
Vince | 20 | 1.194397966 | 23.89 | 1.10 |
Dolph Schayes | 19.6 | 1.217730419 | 23.87 | 1.10 |
Sam Jones | 22.8 | 1.045059001 | 23.83 | 1.10 |
Bob Lanier | 21.6 | 1899-12 | 23.76 | 1.10 |
Moses | 21.5 | 1.104457111 | 23.75 | 1.10 |
D Rose | 20.7 | 1.145511066 | 23.71 | 1.09 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 20.4 | 1899-12 | 23.50 | 1.08 |
K Love | 20.5 | 1.145511066 | 23.48 | 1.08 |
Billy Cunningham | 21.9 | 1.068017603 | 23.39 | 1.08 |
Bosh | 19.4 | 1.203188205 | 23.34 | 1.08 |
Mullin | 20 | 1.162652999 | 23.25 | 1.07 |
Ray Allen | 19 | 1.223729063 | 23.25 | 1.07 |
Earl Monroe | 21.2 | 1.086851361 | 23.04 | 1.06 |
Ed Macauley | 17.5 | 1.312904764 | 22.98 | 1.06 |
Oscar | 21.9 | 1.048495596 | 22.96 | 1.06 |
Marques Johnson | 21.1 | 1.085699 | 22.91 | 1.06 |
Reggie | 19.1 | 1.190599255 | 22.74 | 1.05 |
McHale | 20.7 | 1.097557 | 22.72 | 1.05 |
KG | 18.6 | 1.217421918 | 22.64 | 1.04 |
Manu | 18.8 | 1.195828109 | 22.48 | 1.04 |
Kevin Johnson | 18.9 | 1.168481599 | 22.08 | 1.02 |
John Havlicek | 20.4 | 1.073771986 | 21.90 | 1.01 |
Chris Paul | 18.9 | 1.156160812 | 21.85 | 1.01 |
Bob Cousy | 19 | 1.149516863 | 21.84 | 1.01 |
Pau | 18.3 | 1.191420785 | 21.80 | 1.01 |
Tony Parker | 18.3 | 1899-12 | 21.80 | 1.01 |
Jimmy | 19.2 | 1.133919719 | 21.77 | 1.00 |
Dave Bing | 20.1 | 1.081417787 | 21.74 | 1.00 |
Tim Hardaway | 18.1 | 1.19648121 | 21.66 | 1.00 |
James Worthy | 19.6 | 1.103814939 | 21.63 | 1.00 |
Grant Hill | 17.7 | 1.221918579 | 21.63 | 1.00 |
Bailey Howell | 20.9 | 1899-12 | 21.60 | 1.00 |
Chet Walker | 20.3 | 1.063915838 | 21.60 | 1.00 |
Elvin Hayes | 19.7 | 1.092315925 | 21.52 | 0.99 |
Magic | 19.2 | 1.099439795 | 21.11 | 0.97 |
Elton Brand | 17.4 | 1899-12 | 21.09 | 0.97 |
IT | 19.1 | 1.103053994 | 21.07 | 0.97 |
Chauncey | 17.2 | 1.223595114 | 21.05 | 0.97 |
Mark Price | 18.3 | 1.146319894 | 20.98 | 0.97 |
Tiny Archibald | 19 | 1.100084233 | 20.90 | 0.96 |
Dwight | 17.8 | 1.15983089 | 20.64 | 0.95 |
Artis Gilmore | 19 | 1.085065587 | 20.62 | 0.95 |
Walt Bellamy | 19.4 | 1.059350421 | 20.55 | 0.95 |
Robert Parish | 18.4 | 1.114507674 | 20.51 | 0.95 |
Hal Greer | 19.5 | 1.045555 | 20.39 | 0.94 |
Sidney Moncrief | 18.6 | 1.09156229 | 20.30 | 0.94 |
Larry Nance | 18.4 | 1.103053994 | 20.30 | 0.94 |
Gary Payton | 16.7 | 1.20958924 | 20.20 | 0.93 |
Terrell Brandon | 16.7 | 1.206695772 | 20.15 | 0.93 |
Willis Reed | 19 | 1.05723853 | 20.09 | 0.93 |
Nash | 16.4 | 1.223729063 | 20.07 | 0.93 |
Clifford Robinson | 16.6 | 1.204072081 | 19.99 | 0.92 |
Millsap | 17.2 | 1.151874471 | 19.81 | 0.91 |
Pippen | 16.6 | 1.18873908 | 19.73 | 0.91 |
Walt Frazier | 18.1 | 1.086851361 | 19.67 | 0.91 |
Detlef Schrempf | 16.9 | 1.162652999 | 19.65 | 0.91 |
Jason Terry | 16.2 | 1.20257131 | 19.48 | 0.90 |
Joe Johnson | 16.6 | 1.173433097 | 19.48 | 0.90 |
Sheed Wallace | 15.9 | 1.224714187 | 19.47 | 0.90 |
Zelmo Beaty | 18.4 | 1.057393672 | 19.46 | 0.90 |
Shawn Marion | 15.9 | 1.215593493 | 19.33 | 0.89 |
Jeff Hornacek | 16.6 | 1.162231678 | 19.29 | 0.89 |
Kyle Lowry | 16.7 | 1.151874471 | 19.24 | 0.89 |
Eddie Jones | 15.5 | 1.229125782 | 19.05 | 0.88 |
Terry Porter | 15.9 | 1899-12 | 18.56 | 0.86 |
Bill Walton | 16.9 | 1.097646135 | 18.55 | 0.86 |
Rod Strickland | 15.5 | 1.196048227 | 18.54 | 0.86 |
Otis Thorpe | 15.9 | 1.157332362 | 18.40 | 0.85 |
Jack Sikma | 16.8 | 1899-12 | 18.32 | 0.85 |
Dave Cowens | 16.5 | 1.102659556 | 18.19 | 0.84 |
Marc Gasol | 15.7 | 1.151001067 | 18.07 | 0.83 |
Alvin Robertson | 15.9 | 1.119783067 | 17.80 | 0.82 |
Lenny Wilkens | 16.8 | 1.055788872 | 17.74 | 0.82 |
Andre Miller | 14.6 | 1.212133128 | 17.70 | 0.82 |
Horford | 15.3 | 1.148422941 | 17.57 | 0.81 |
Sam Perkins | 15.1 | 1.157332362 | 17.48 | 0.81 |
Fat Lever | 15.8 | 1.103814939 | 17.44 | 0.80 |
Stockton | 14.9 | 1.166728451 | 17.38 | 0.80 |
Bobby Jones | 15.9 | 1.086617668 | 17.28 | 0.80 |
AK47 | 14.2 | 1.212704985 | 17.22 | 0.79 |
Vlade Divac | 14.3 | 1.202806736 | 17.20 | 0.79 |
Dave DeBusschere | 16.2 | 1.056084263 | 17.11 | 0.79 |
Jerry Lucas | 15.7 | 1.058423233 | 16.62 | 0.77 |
Gobert | 14.9 | 1.114273652 | 16.60 | 0.77 |
Mookie Blaylock | 13.9 | 1.192425045 | 16.57 | 0.76 |
Bill Laimbeer | 14.6 | 1.102763168 | 16.10 | 0.74 |
Buck Williams | 14.2 | 1.127879613 | 16.02 | 0.74 |
Doc Rivers | 14.3 | 1.116647375 | 15.97 | 0.74 |
Nate Thurmond | 14.5 | 1.075361808 | 15.59 | 0.72 |
Kidd | 12.6 | 1.221918579 | 15.40 | 0.71 |
Iggy | 12.7 | 1.15983089 | 14.73 | 0.68 |
Horace Grant | 12.1 | 1899-12 | 14.38 | 0.66 |
AC Green | 12.1 | 1.162652999 | 14.07 | 0.65 |
Dikembe | 11.5 | 1.212367475 | 13.94 | 0.64 |
Mo Cheeks | 12.6 | 1.095481353 | 13.80 | 0.64 |
Rajon Rondo | 11.8 | 1.151874471 | 13.59 | 0.63 |
Bill Russell | 12.8 | 1.056421469 | 13.52 | 0.62 |
Tyson Chandler | 10.8 | 1.184641365 | 12.79 | 0.59 |
Dray | 11 | 1.123947205 | 12.36 | 0.57 |
Wes Unseld | 10.7 | 1899-12 | 11.70 | 0.54 |
Tree Rollins | 9.4 | 1.103844009 | 10.38 | 0.48 |
Dennis Rodman | 8.3 | 1.162231678 | 9.65 | 0.45 |
Nate McMillan | 8.3 | 1.146319894 | 9.51 | 0.44 |
Mark Eaton | 7.5 | 1.097757811 | 8.23 | 0.38 |
Next up is efficiency, where we’ll be taking a look at FG% and TS%. I put this at 3 points and one less than pure volume largely because efficiency can tilt towards players in simpler roles, especially big men who only shoot at the rim. So that creates a comparison difficulty that’s going to decrease the value here. Efficiency is very valuable for comparing Steph to your average point guard or LeBron to your average high-volume forward, and these guys will gain an advantage over similar players for their numbers here. But you will also have the bigs like Rudy Gobert ranking super high. And that’s not a knock on Gobert or anyone else; it’s important that they finish the looks they get. That’s the job, and it doesn’t matter to the final score if the looks are easier than others or created by teammates. Those finishing bigs should get some credit for that. But the difficulty in accounting for position and role when looking at efficiency numbers is inherent, and there needs to be some limitation on the value of ranking Gobert as a more efficient scorer than a LeBron or a KD. Technically and statistically, it’s true. But Gobert would also be shooting like 20% from the floor, and maybe much less, if he was asked to take the same shots. And while one could, perhaps fairly, point out that LeBron and KD might not finish at the rim at a rate above 60% if asked to play the role of a center offensively, there is likely less of a gap there. True shooting addresses this to some degree in valuing different kinds of shots for their different point values rather than counting every shot as the exact same, but your rim-based bigs are still going to be very high there since your TS% won’t go down for not shooting threes. So, again, it’s worth comparing similar players here rather than all of the players, and the differences in efficiency will end up playing a role in separating a KD from a LeBron more than a Gobert from a Steph by the time everything is tallied up. This is why we’ll also look at things like pure scoring volume and usage rate later on to try to paint a fuller picture.
Let’s start with FG%. I did an era-adjusted figure here as well using the exact same process I used for PPG. Bob Cousy is an easy example to use here. He did shoot 37% from the field, but he also played a decent amount of his career in years where the league average FG% was barely above or even below 40%. Cousy shooting 37% in 1955 simply isn’t equivalent to Taurean Prince shooting 37% in 2020. Now, Cousy’s era-adjusted FG% of roughly 46% is still pretty low on the totem pole here, so don’t take this to mean that he was a bastion of efficiency or anything remotely close. But adjusting for era allows us to place Cousy in a more accurate spot – as a slightly less efficient player than Kyle Lowry – rather than sticking him way behind the rest of the pack. Here are the results (remember that we will sum up GOAT points at the end of each big category) –
Player | FG% | EA FG% | GOAT POINTS | |
Gobert | 0.653 | 1.074885054 | 0.70 | 1.50 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.597 | 1.085312224 | 0.65 | 1.39 |
Dwight | 0.587 | 1.078027904 | 0.63 | 1.36 |
Shaq | 0.582 | 1.084698897 | 0.63 | 1.35 |
Wilt | 0.54 | 1.124542577 | 0.61 | 1.30 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.582 | 1.030300467 | 0.60 | 1.28 |
Kareem | 0.559 | 1.040764491 | 0.58 | 1.25 |
Jokic | 0.542 | 1.070642382 | 0.58 | 1.24 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.546 | 1.054781843 | 0.58 | 1.23 |
Ed Macauley | 0.436 | 1.319226158 | 0.58 | 1.23 |
Giannis | 0.535 | 1.074885054 | 0.58 | 1.23 |
Bobby Jones | 0.56 | 1.023457424 | 0.57 | 1.23 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.527 | 1.087390192 | 0.57 | 1.23 |
Walt Bellamy | 0.516 | 1.107609697 | 0.57 | 1.22 |
Yao | 0.524 | 1.086675655 | 0.57 | 1.22 |
Buck Williams | 0.549 | 1.036207353 | 0.57 | 1.22 |
Chuck | 0.541 | 1.051292615 | 0.57 | 1.22 |
McHale | 0.554 | 1.021284278 | 0.57 | 1.21 |
KAT | 0.527 | 1.070642382 | 0.56 | 1.21 |
Dikembe | 0.518 | 1.08402841 | 0.56 | 1.20 |
Larry Nance | 0.546 | 1.024626456 | 0.56 | 1.20 |
David Robinson | 0.518 | 1.075448667 | 0.56 | 1.19 |
Robert Parish | 0.537 | 1.032330685 | 0.55 | 1.19 |
Horford | 0.515 | 1.076392993 | 0.55 | 1.19 |
AD | 0.515 | 1.07600582 | 0.55 | 1.19 |
Tim Duncan | 0.506 | 1.092817872 | 0.55 | 1.18 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.54 | 1.022570709 | 0.55 | 1.18 |
Jerry Lucas | 0.499 | 1.10539759 | 0.55 | 1.18 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.521 | 1.057741303 | 0.55 | 1.18 |
Pau | 0.507 | 1.086187057 | 0.55 | 1.18 |
Karl Malone | 0.516 | 1.066774934 | 0.55 | 1.18 |
George Mikan | 0.404 | 1.358993372 | 0.55 | 1.18 |
Bill Sharman | 0.426 | 1.284613175 | 0.55 | 1.17 |
Stockton | 0.515 | 1.060527972 | 0.55 | 1.17 |
Horace Grant | 0.509 | 1899-12 | 0.55 | 1.17 |
LeBron | 0.505 | 1.080275327 | 0.55 | 1.17 |
Elton Brand | 0.5 | 1899-12 | 0.55 | 1.17 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0.494 | 1.101587387 | 0.54 | 1.17 |
Bailey Howell | 0.48 | 1899-12 | 0.54 | 1.16 |
KG | 0.497 | 1.090942539 | 0.54 | 1.16 |
Hakeem | 0.512 | 1.057606072 | 0.54 | 1.16 |
Wes Unseld | 0.509 | 1899-12 | 0.54 | 1.16 |
Oscar | 0.485 | 1.11539225 | 0.54 | 1.16 |
Mullin | 0.509 | 1.058078417 | 0.54 | 1.15 |
Bob Lanier | 0.514 | 1899-12 | 0.54 | 1.15 |
Bosh | 0.494 | 1.086094624 | 0.54 | 1.15 |
Paul Arizin | 0.421 | 1.273806209 | 0.54 | 1.15 |
Tree Rollins | 0.522 | 1.026368118 | 0.54 | 1.15 |
Bill Walton | 0.521 | 1.027796016 | 0.54 | 1.15 |
Nash | 0.49 | 1.092255239 | 0.54 | 1.15 |
James Worthy | 0.521 | 1.026508939 | 0.53 | 1.15 |
Ewing | 0.504 | 1.060874861 | 0.53 | 1.15 |
Vlade Divac | 0.495 | 1.079855088 | 0.53 | 1.15 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.523 | 1.020933175 | 0.53 | 1.14 |
KD | 0.496 | 1.076392993 | 0.53 | 1.14 |
Tony Parker | 0.491 | 1899-12 | 0.53 | 1.14 |
Kawhi | 0.493 | 1.079102737 | 0.53 | 1.14 |
Magic | 0.52 | 1.021689053 | 0.53 | 1.14 |
Blake | 0.493 | 1.077513993 | 0.53 | 1.14 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.493 | 1899-12 | 0.53 | 1.14 |
Sam Jones | 0.456 | 1.16234678 | 0.53 | 1.14 |
Jerry West | 0.474 | 1.11539225 | 0.53 | 1.13 |
Shawn Marion | 0.484 | 1.090990784 | 0.53 | 1.13 |
Bob Pettit | 0.436 | 1.211040719 | 0.53 | 1.13 |
Millsap | 0.489 | 1.076258169 | 0.53 | 1.13 |
Grant Hill | 0.483 | 1.089348575 | 0.53 | 1.13 |
Marques Johnson | 0.518 | 1.015246145 | 0.53 | 1.13 |
Willis Reed | 0.476 | 1.102311483 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.496 | 1.057741303 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
Walt Frazier | 0.49 | 1.070116125 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.493 | 1.060259865 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
AC Green | 0.494 | 1.058078417 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
CWebb | 0.479 | 1.090538263 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
MJ | 0.497 | 1.0508001 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
Dr J | 0.506 | 1.030631746 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.503 | 1.034799357 | 0.52 | 1.12 |
D Wade | 0.48 | 1899-12 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.491 | 1.058078417 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
Chet Walker | 0.47 | 1.103969707 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
Alex English | 0.507 | 1.022570709 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
George Gervin | 0.504 | 1.028418773 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
Marc Gasol | 0.481 | 1.077081795 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
David Thompson | 0.505 | 1.025446262 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
Dan Issel | 0.499 | 1.035743979 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
AK47 | 0.474 | 1.089248192 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
Bill Russell | 0.44 | 1.17253063 | 0.52 | 1.11 |
Dirk | 0.471 | 1.089695381 | 0.51 | 1.10 |
Hal Greer | 0.452 | 1.132611046 | 0.51 | 1.10 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.502 | 1.018085218 | 0.51 | 1.10 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.498 | 1.023749257 | 0.51 | 1.09 |
Sheed Wallace | 0.467 | 1.091212718 | 0.51 | 1.09 |
Steph | 0.473 | 1.076724079 | 0.51 | 1.09 |
Chris Paul | 0.473 | 1.076695949 | 0.51 | 1.09 |
Moses | 0.495 | 1.028036349 | 0.51 | 1.09 |
Pippen | 0.473 | 1.072556283 | 0.51 | 1.09 |
Kyrie | 0.47 | 1.078024772 | 0.51 | 1.09 |
Reggie | 0.471 | 1.074118219 | 0.51 | 1.08 |
Larry | 0.496 | 1.0199535 | 0.51 | 1.08 |
Gary Payton | 0.466 | 1.082470836 | 0.50 | 1.08 |
Andre Miller | 0.461 | 1.090844007 | 0.50 | 1.08 |
Iggy | 0.463 | 1.078027904 | 0.50 | 1.07 |
Earl Monroe | 0.464 | 1.070116125 | 0.50 | 1.06 |
Jimmy | 0.46 | 1.078024772 | 0.50 | 1.06 |
Mark Price | 0.472 | 1.048895979 | 0.50 | 1.06 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.477 | 1.035366944 | 0.49 | 1.06 |
Klay | 0.458 | 1.078024772 | 0.49 | 1.06 |
Ray Allen | 0.452 | 1.092255239 | 0.49 | 1.06 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.452 | 1.089503494 | 0.49 | 1.06 |
D Rose | 0.457 | 1.076379176 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Rick Barry | 0.456 | 1.077185653 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Terry Porter | 0.463 | 1899-12 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.472 | 1.039937023 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.456 | 1.076258169 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Elgin Baylor | 0.431 | 1.136444166 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Rod Strickland | 0.454 | 1.077007526 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.467 | 1.046569604 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Kobe | 0.447 | 1.092242913 | 0.49 | 1.05 |
Dave Cowens | 0.46 | 1.05796292 | 0.49 | 1.04 |
Paul Pierce | 0.445 | 1.091936456 | 0.49 | 1.04 |
Manu | 0.447 | 1.086156496 | 0.49 | 1.04 |
Sam Perkins | 0.459 | 1.054781843 | 0.48 | 1.04 |
Jason Terry | 0.444 | 1.088973672 | 0.48 | 1.04 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.448 | 1.07923373 | 0.48 | 1.04 |
Melo | 0.447 | 1.080275327 | 0.48 | 1.03 |
John Havlicek | 0.439 | 1.095809189 | 0.48 | 1.03 |
Dominique | 0.461 | 1.043490968 | 0.48 | 1.03 |
Dolph Schayes | 0.38 | 1.26564255 | 0.48 | 1.03 |
Lenny Wilkens | 0.432 | 1.112805196 | 0.48 | 1.03 |
Dave DeBusschere | 0.432 | 1.106251646 | 0.48 | 1.02 |
Eddie Jones | 0.437 | 1.093019996 | 0.48 | 1.02 |
Joe Johnson | 0.441 | 1.083046255 | 0.48 | 1.02 |
Dave Bing | 0.441 | 1.082487822 | 0.48 | 1.02 |
Harden | 0.442 | 1.076724079 | 0.48 | 1.02 |
T-Mac | 0.435 | 1.093965498 | 0.48 | 1.02 |
Elvin Hayes | 0.452 | 1.052324121 | 0.48 | 1.02 |
K Love | 0.441 | 1.076379176 | 0.47 | 1.02 |
Dray | 0.441 | 1.07600582 | 0.47 | 1.02 |
Vince | 0.435 | 1.088780374 | 0.47 | 1.01 |
Jack Sikma | 0.464 | 1899-12 | 0.47 | 1.01 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.438 | 1.079756536 | 0.47 | 1.01 |
Russ | 0.438 | 1.076379176 | 0.47 | 1.01 |
Dame | 0.437 | 1.07600582 | 0.47 | 1.01 |
Mark Eaton | 0.458 | 1.023846661 | 0.47 | 1.00 |
Paul George | 0.435 | 1.077513993 | 0.47 | 1.00 |
Pistol Pete | 0.441 | 1.062315913 | 0.47 | 1.00 |
AI | 0.425 | 1.094335103 | 0.47 | 1.00 |
Nate McMillan | 0.443 | 1.048895979 | 0.46 | 1.00 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.431 | 1.075448667 | 0.46 | 0.99 |
IT | 0.452 | 1.024626456 | 0.46 | 0.99 |
Nate Thurmond | 0.421 | 1.097732875 | 0.46 | 0.99 |
Fat Lever | 0.447 | 1.026508939 | 0.46 | 0.98 |
Doc Rivers | 0.444 | 1.03264641 | 0.46 | 0.98 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.425 | 1.076258169 | 0.46 | 0.98 |
Bob Cousy | 0.375 | 1.211638221 | 0.45 | 0.97 |
Chauncey | 0.415 | 1.092898566 | 0.45 | 0.97 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.409 | 1.072550705 | 0.44 | 0.94 |
Kidd | 0.4 | 1.089348575 | 0.44 | 0.93 |
True shooting percentage is next. It’s a relatively simple way of taking the next step to measure efficiency, valuing points per shot more than the basic shots made divided by shots taken path. The formula is straightforward –
You still have FGA on the bottom, but we look at 1/2 points rather than FGM on the top. This means a two is still worth 1 (like your typical made field goal for FG%) while a three is worth more at 1.5. And then you have the addition of the free throw accounting since points obviously include free throws as well as the twos and threes. Making every free throw will give you a number slightly above 1 for that portion of the equation, while struggling from the line is going to decrease your true shooting to some degree. Again, this is just a way to judge how many points a player is creating per shot and not just how many of their shots they’re making. So the question is do we adjust for era? There’s certainly reason to try. Points, field goal attempts, and free throw attempts have all fluctuated in volume across the league’s history. Whether all of that number play is feasible is a different question…and I’ve given up. It’s probably not that complicated to rearrange the formula a little bit and plug in the multipliers, but it’s beyond me right now. We’ll just rank everyone by their standard career TS%. It’s going to hurt some of the early era guys, but I don’t know how to fix that gap.
Player | TS% | GOAT POINTS |
Gobert | 0.671 | 1.5 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.626 | 1.40 |
Steph | 0.624 | 1.39 |
KAT | 0.624 | 1.39 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.623 | 1.39 |
Jokic | 0.622 | 1.39 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.617 | 1.38 |
KD | 0.616 | 1.38 |
Reggie | 0.614 | 1.37 |
Chuck | 0.612 | 1.37 |
Magic | 0.61 | 1.36 |
Harden | 0.61 | 1.36 |
Stockton | 0.608 | 1.36 |
Bobby Jones | 0.607 | 1.36 |
Nash | 0.605 | 1.35 |
McHale | 0.605 | 1.35 |
Giannis | 0.604 | 1.35 |
Dwight | 0.602 | 1.35 |
Kawhi | 0.6 | 1.34 |
Yao | 0.596 | 1.33 |
Mullin | 0.594 | 1.33 |
Kareem | 0.592 | 1.32 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.591 | 1.32 |
LeBron | 0.588 | 1.31 |
Buck Williams | 0.587 | 1.31 |
Shaq | 0.586 | 1.31 |
Larry Nance | 0.586 | 1.31 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.586 | 1.31 |
Mark Price | 0.586 | 1.31 |
AD | 0.585 | 1.31 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.585 | 1.31 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.584 | 1.31 |
Chris Paul | 0.583 | 1.30 |
David Robinson | 0.583 | 1.30 |
Dame | 0.583 | 1.30 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.583 | 1.30 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.582 | 1.30 |
Manu | 0.582 | 1.30 |
Ray Allen | 0.58 | 1.30 |
Chauncey | 0.58 | 1.30 |
Jimmy | 0.578 | 1.29 |
Karl Malone | 0.577 | 1.29 |
Dirk | 0.577 | 1.29 |
Kyrie | 0.577 | 1.29 |
Terry Porter | 0.576 | 1.29 |
Dikembe | 0.573 | 1.28 |
Klay | 0.573 | 1.28 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.572 | 1.28 |
K Love | 0.572 | 1.28 |
Robert Parish | 0.571 | 1.28 |
Bosh | 0.571 | 1.28 |
AK47 | 0.571 | 1.28 |
MJ | 0.569 | 1.27 |
Moses | 0.569 | 1.27 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.569 | 1.27 |
Paul Pierce | 0.568 | 1.27 |
Horford | 0.568 | 1.27 |
David Thompson | 0.568 | 1.27 |
Paul George | 0.566 | 1.27 |
Pau | 0.565 | 1.26 |
Oscar | 0.564 | 1.26 |
Larry | 0.564 | 1.26 |
George Gervin | 0.564 | 1.26 |
Dan Issel | 0.559 | 1.25 |
Bob Lanier | 0.559 | 1.25 |
Millsap | 0.559 | 1.25 |
Blake | 0.559 | 1.25 |
James Worthy | 0.559 | 1.25 |
Dr J | 0.558 | 1.25 |
AC Green | 0.557 | 1.25 |
Marc Gasol | 0.557 | 1.25 |
Marques Johnson | 0.556 | 1.24 |
Tree Rollins | 0.555 | 1.24 |
Walt Bellamy | 0.554 | 1.24 |
D Wade | 0.554 | 1.24 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0.554 | 1.24 |
Eddie Jones | 0.554 | 1.24 |
Jason Terry | 0.554 | 1.24 |
Hakeem | 0.553 | 1.24 |
Ewing | 0.553 | 1.24 |
Iggy | 0.553 | 1.24 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.552 | 1.23 |
Sam Perkins | 0.552 | 1.23 |
Tim Duncan | 0.551 | 1.23 |
Grant Hill | 0.551 | 1.23 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.551 | 1.23 |
Bill Walton | 0.551 | 1.23 |
Kobe | 0.55 | 1.23 |
Jerry West | 0.55 | 1.23 |
Alex English | 0.55 | 1.23 |
Elton Brand | 0.548 | 1.23 |
Wilt | 0.547 | 1.22 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.547 | 1.22 |
KG | 0.546 | 1.22 |
Tony Parker | 0.546 | 1.22 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.546 | 1.22 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.544 | 1.22 |
Bailey Howell | 0.544 | 1.22 |
Jerry Lucas | 0.544 | 1.22 |
Melo | 0.543 | 1.21 |
Vlade Divac | 0.543 | 1.21 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.543 | 1.21 |
Shawn Marion | 0.542 | 1.21 |
Walt Frazier | 0.542 | 1.21 |
Horace Grant | 0.54 | 1.21 |
Chet Walker | 0.54 | 1.21 |
Jack Sikma | 0.54 | 1.21 |
Wes Unseld | 0.537 | 1.20 |
Vince | 0.536 | 1.20 |
Pippen | 0.536 | 1.20 |
Dominique | 0.536 | 1.20 |
Sheed Wallace | 0.536 | 1.20 |
Doc Rivers | 0.534 | 1.19 |
Dray | 0.534 | 1.19 |
Andre Miller | 0.532 | 1.19 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.53 | 1.18 |
Joe Johnson | 0.53 | 1.18 |
Gary Payton | 0.528 | 1.18 |
D Rose | 0.528 | 1.18 |
Russ | 0.527 | 1.18 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.527 | 1.18 |
Rick Barry | 0.525 | 1.17 |
Willis Reed | 0.523 | 1.17 |
Ed Macauley | 0.522 | 1.17 |
T-Mac | 0.519 | 1.16 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.519 | 1.16 |
AI | 0.518 | 1.16 |
Earl Monroe | 0.517 | 1.16 |
IT | 0.516 | 1.15 |
Rod Strickland | 0.516 | 1.15 |
CWebb | 0.513 | 1.15 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.512 | 1.14 |
Bob Pettit | 0.511 | 1.14 |
Lenny Wilkens | 0.511 | 1.14 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.509 | 1.14 |
Nate McMillan | 0.508 | 1.14 |
Kidd | 0.507 | 1.13 |
Paul Arizin | 0.506 | 1.13 |
Hal Greer | 0.506 | 1.13 |
Sam Jones | 0.503 | 1.12 |
Dave Bing | 0.502 | 1.12 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.501 | 1.12 |
Pistol Pete | 0.5 | 1.12 |
Bill Sharman | 0.497 | 1.11 |
Fat Lever | 0.496 | 1.11 |
Dave Cowens | 0.496 | 1.11 |
Mark Eaton | 0.496 | 1.11 |
Elgin Baylor | 0.494 | 1.10 |
John Havlicek | 0.492 | 1.10 |
Elvin Hayes | 0.491 | 1.10 |
Dolph Schayes | 0.488 | 1.09 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.488 | 1.09 |
George Mikan | 0.483 | 1.08 |
Dave DeBusschere | 0.472 | 1.06 |
Bill Russell | 0.471 | 1.05 |
Nate Thurmond | 0.47 | 1.05 |
Bob Cousy | 0.446 | 1.00 |
Perimeter shooting is up next, and this is another thing we need to adjust for era. Because docking someone who was physically unable to shoot a three to zero points here makes little sense. So instead, we’re going to compare everybody’s three-point production to the averages during their time in the league. For percentages, this is pretty easy – we just take the average of the league’s mean 3P% in each season across a player’s career and then divide their personal 3P% by that average. For our purposes, 0 divided by 0 would be marked as 1 here, noting that players who couldn’t shoot threes were league average shooters. The good shooters would be above 1, while those who shot below the league average would end up below 1. One or two players who saw the three ball introduced late into their careers may get hit here, but such is the cost of falling short of adjusting to the new rules. It gets a little harder for three point attempts and makes per game since the available average stats that exist are per team per game rather than per player per game. One feasible option is to try the same thing described above – taking the mean of those team averages and dividing a player’s career 3PA and 3PM numbers by them. That’s going to create a decimal, but it’s one that should theoretically be usable as a measure of volume. What percentage of the typical team’s three-pointers is this player taking and making? The problem here is the players who played in a three-less league, since you can’t just put them at a set average of 1 here. What we will do instead is find all of decimals we can with three-point shooting players and then take the average of all of those decimals, which we would give to the non-shooters. I think it works alright. Here’s what we get –
Player | 3PA | Team 3PA | 3PA/Team 3PA | GOAT POINTS |
Larry | 1.9 | 4.29 | 0.44 | 0.50 |
Tim Hardaway | 5 | 12.21 | 0.41 | 0.47 |
Reggie | 4.7 | 11.85 | 0.40 | 0.45 |
Rick Barry | 2 | 5.28 | 0.38 | 0.43 |
Mookie Blaylock | 4.3 | 12.02 | 0.36 | 0.41 |
Mark Price | 3.4 | 9.78 | 0.35 | 0.40 |
Ray Allen | 5.7 | 16.41 | 0.35 | 0.39 |
Steph | 8.8 | 25.72 | 0.34 | 0.39 |
Harden | 7.6 | 25.72 | 0.30 | 0.34 |
Dame | 8.1 | 27.99 | 0.29 | 0.33 |
Clyde Drexler | 2.4 | 8.41 | 0.29 | 0.32 |
Eddie Jones | 4.3 | 15.18 | 0.28 | 0.32 |
Chauncey | 4.5 | 16.38 | 0.27 | 0.31 |
Klay | 7.1 | 27.12 | 0.26 | 0.30 |
IT | 1.4 | 5.38 | 0.26 | 0.30 |
Kidd | 4.1 | 16.06 | 0.26 | 0.29 |
Dominique | 2.1 | 8.33 | 0.25 | 0.29 |
Terry Porter | 2.6 | 10.35 | 0.25 | 0.29 |
Paul George | 6.6 | 26.36 | 0.25 | 0.28 |
Magic | 1.2 | 4.94 | 0.24 | 0.28 |
Paul Pierce | 4.3 | 17.86 | 0.24 | 0.27 |
Kobe | 4.1 | 17.09 | 0.24 | 0.27 |
AI | 3.7 | 15.53 | 0.24 | 0.27 |
Jason Terry | 4.3 | 18.69 | 0.23 | 0.26 |
Mullin | 2.2 | 10.08 | 0.22 | 0.25 |
Pippen | 2.5 | 11.62 | 0.22 | 0.24 |
T-Mac | 3.4 | 15.80 | 0.22 | 0.24 |
Kyle Lowry | 5.2 | 24.22 | 0.21 | 0.24 |
Kyrie | 5.7 | 27.12 | 0.21 | 0.24 |
Vince | 4 | 19.75 | 0.20 | 0.23 |
Chuck | 1.9 | 9.41 | 0.20 | 0.23 |
Gary Payton | 2.7 | 13.41 | 0.20 | 0.23 |
KD | 4.9 | 24.71 | 0.20 | 0.23 |
LeBron | 4.5 | 22.85 | 0.20 | 0.22 |
George Gervin | 0.6 | 3.07 | 0.20 | 0.22 |
Nash | 3.2 | 16.41 | 0.20 | 0.22 |
Manu | 3.8 | 19.56 | 0.19 | 0.22 |
Clifford Robinson | 2.5 | 13.03 | 0.19 | 0.22 |
K Love | 4.8 | 25.18 | 0.19 | 0.22 |
Joe Johnson | 4.2 | 22.08 | 0.19 | 0.22 |
Sam Perkins | 1.8 | 9.66 | 0.19 | 0.21 |
Jeff Hornacek | 1.9 | 10.30 | 0.18 | 0.21 |
Sheed Wallace | 2.9 | 16.10 | 0.18 | 0.20 |
Dirk | 3.4 | 19.06 | 0.18 | 0.20 |
MJ | 1.7 | 9.55 | 0.18 | 0.20 |
Doc Rivers | 1.3 | 7.43 | 0.17 | 0.20 |
Jack Sikma | 0.7 | 4.02 | 0.17 | 0.20 |
Melo | 3.9 | 22.85 | 0.17 | 0.19 |
Chris Paul | 3.6 | 23.74 | 0.15 | 0.17 |
Kawhi | 3.9 | 26.31 | 0.15 | 0.17 |
Stockton | 1.5 | 10.19 | 0.15 | 0.17 |
Russ | 3.7 | 25.18 | 0.15 | 0.17 |
KAT | 4.1 | 30.86 | 0.13 | 0.15 |
Alvin Robertson | 1 | 7.85 | 0.13 | 0.14 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.3 | 2.36 | 0.13 | 0.14 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.5 | 4.00 | 0.13 | 0.14 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.5 | 4.02 | 0.12 | 0.14 |
Fat Lever | 0.7 | 5.63 | 0.12 | 0.14 |
Shawn Marion | 2.1 | 17.19 | 0.12 | 0.14 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.14 | |
Dr J | 0.4 | 3.37 | 0.12 | 0.13 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.6 | 5.14 | 0.12 | 0.13 |
Iggy | 2.7 | 23.29 | 0.12 | 0.13 |
Terrell Brandon | 1.5 | 12.96 | 0.12 | 0.13 |
David Thompson | 0.3 | 2.62 | 0.11 | 0.13 |
Nate McMillan | 1.1 | 9.78 | 0.11 | 0.13 |
Detlef Schrempf | 1.1 | 10.08 | 0.11 | 0.12 |
Walt Frazier | 0.3 | 2.80 | 0.11 | 0.12 |
Pistol Pete | 0.3 | 2.80 | 0.11 | 0.12 |
D Rose | 2.6 | 25.18 | 0.10 | 0.12 |
Jokic | 2.9 | 30.86 | 0.09 | 0.11 |
Dray | 2.6 | 27.99 | 0.09 | 0.11 |
Jimmy | 2.5 | 27.12 | 0.09 | 0.10 |
James Worthy | 0.5 | 5.63 | 0.09 | 0.10 |
D Wade | 1.8 | 20.64 | 0.09 | 0.10 |
AK47 | 1.5 | 17.69 | 0.08 | 0.10 |
Blake | 2.2 | 26.36 | 0.08 | 0.09 |
Giannis | 2.4 | 28.88 | 0.08 | 0.09 |
CWebb | 1.1 | 14.83 | 0.07 | 0.08 |
Horford | 1.8 | 24.71 | 0.07 | 0.08 |
Marques Johnson | 0.2 | 2.86 | 0.07 | 0.08 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.7 | 10.73 | 0.07 | 0.07 |
Tony Parker | 1.3 | 19.98 | 0.07 | 0.07 |
Millsap | 1.5 | 24.22 | 0.06 | 0.07 |
Rajon Rondo | 1.4 | 24.22 | 0.06 | 0.07 |
AD | 1.6 | 27.99 | 0.06 | 0.06 |
Bosh | 1 | 18.64 | 0.05 | 0.06 |
Marc Gasol | 1.3 | 24.41 | 0.05 | 0.06 |
Rod Strickland | 0.6 | 12.25 | 0.05 | 0.06 |
Grant Hill | 0.7 | 16.06 | 0.04 | 0.05 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.2 | 4.63 | 0.04 | 0.05 |
Elvin Hayes | 0.1 | 2.36 | 0.04 | 0.05 |
McHale | 0.2 | 4.77 | 0.04 | 0.05 |
Andre Miller | 0.7 | 17.59 | 0.04 | 0.05 |
AC Green | 0.4 | 10.08 | 0.04 | 0.05 |
Dave Cowens | 0.1 | 2.55 | 0.04 | 0.04 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.4 | 10.30 | 0.04 | 0.04 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.1 | 2.60 | 0.04 | 0.04 |
Vlade Divac | 0.4 | 12.61 | 0.03 | 0.04 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.7 | 24.22 | 0.03 | 0.03 |
Dan Issel | 0.1 | 3.49 | 0.03 | 0.03 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.1 | 4.02 | 0.02 | 0.03 |
Alex English | 0.1 | 4.02 | 0.02 | 0.03 |
KG | 0.4 | 17.04 | 0.02 | 0.03 |
Pau | 0.4 | 19.98 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
Larry Nance | 0.1 | 5.38 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
Karl Malone | 0.2 | 10.82 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
Moses | 0.1 | 5.63 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.1 | 9.66 | 0.01 | 0.01 |
Hakeem | 0.1 | 9.94 | 0.01 | 0.01 |
Ewing | 0.1 | 10.35 | 0.01 | 0.01 |
Horace Grant | 0.1 | 11.62 | 0.01 | 0.01 |
David Robinson | 0.1 | 12.21 | 0.01 | 0.01 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.1 | 14.46 | 0.01 | 0.01 |
Tim Duncan | 0.1 | 17.11 | 0.01 | 0.01 |
Dwight | 0.1 | 23.29 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Kareem | 0 | 3.45 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Artis Gilmore | 0 | 3.49 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Shaq | 0 | 15.03 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Robert Parish | 0 | 6.82 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Buck Williams | 0 | 7.69 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bob Lanier | 0 | 2.36 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Dikembe | 0 | 14.28 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Elton Brand | 0 | 17.59 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Wes Unseld | 0 | 2.40 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0 | 4.85 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Tyson Chandler | 0 | 20.73 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bobby Jones | 0 | 2.87 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Yao | 0 | 16.73 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bill Walton | 0 | 2.86 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Mark Eaton | 0 | 5.25 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Tree Rollins | 0 | 5.63 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Gobert | 0 | 28.88 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Earl Monroe | 0 | 2.80 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
If we do the same for 3PM, we get this –
Player | 3P | Team 3P | 3P/Team 3P | GOAT POINTS |
Larry | 0.7 | 1.30 | 0.54 | 0.50 |
Reggie | 1.8 | 4.11 | 0.44 | 0.41 |
Tim Hardaway | 1.8 | 4.25 | 0.42 | 0.39 |
Mark Price | 1.4 | 3.35 | 0.42 | 0.39 |
Steph | 3.8 | 9.18 | 0.41 | 0.38 |
Ray Allen | 2.3 | 5.82 | 0.40 | 0.37 |
Rick Barry | 0.6 | 1.56 | 0.38 | 0.36 |
Mookie Blaylock | 1.4 | 4.18 | 0.33 | 0.31 |
Klay | 3 | 9.68 | 0.31 | 0.29 |
Chauncey | 1.8 | 5.81 | 0.31 | 0.29 |
Harden | 2.8 | 9.18 | 0.30 | 0.28 |
Dame | 3 | 10.01 | 0.30 | 0.28 |
Eddie Jones | 1.6 | 5.39 | 0.30 | 0.28 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.8 | 2.84 | 0.28 | 0.26 |
Terry Porter | 1 | 3.55 | 0.28 | 0.26 |
Paul George | 2.5 | 9.42 | 0.27 | 0.25 |
Magic | 0.4 | 1.56 | 0.26 | 0.24 |
Paul Pierce | 1.6 | 6.34 | 0.25 | 0.23 |
Pistol Pete | 0.2 | 0.80 | 0.25 | 0.23 |
Dominique | 0.7 | 2.80 | 0.25 | 0.23 |
Kidd | 1.4 | 5.71 | 0.25 | 0.23 |
Jason Terry | 1.6 | 6.65 | 0.24 | 0.22 |
Nash | 1.4 | 5.82 | 0.24 | 0.22 |
IT | 0.4 | 1.68 | 0.24 | 0.22 |
Mullin | 0.8 | 3.45 | 0.23 | 0.21 |
Kobe | 1.4 | 6.06 | 0.23 | 0.21 |
Kyrie | 2.2 | 9.68 | 0.23 | 0.21 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.8 | 3.54 | 0.23 | 0.21 |
Kyle Lowry | 1.9 | 8.67 | 0.22 | 0.20 |
AI | 1.2 | 5.50 | 0.22 | 0.20 |
KD | 1.9 | 8.84 | 0.21 | 0.20 |
T-Mac | 1.2 | 5.59 | 0.21 | 0.20 |
Vince | 1.5 | 7.02 | 0.21 | 0.20 |
Sam Perkins | 0.7 | 3.30 | 0.21 | 0.20 |
Manu | 1.4 | 6.98 | 0.20 | 0.19 |
K Love | 1.8 | 9.00 | 0.20 | 0.19 |
Pippen | 0.8 | 4.02 | 0.20 | 0.18 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.9 | 4.56 | 0.20 | 0.18 |
LeBron | 1.6 | 8.17 | 0.20 | 0.18 |
Dirk | 1.3 | 6.78 | 0.19 | 0.18 |
Joe Johnson | 1.5 | 7.88 | 0.19 | 0.18 |
Sheed Wallace | 1 | 5.72 | 0.17 | 0.16 |
Stockton | 0.6 | 3.49 | 0.17 | 0.16 |
Melo | 1.4 | 8.17 | 0.17 | 0.16 |
Gary Payton | 0.8 | 4.70 | 0.17 | 0.16 |
Jack Sikma | 0.2 | 1.20 | 0.17 | 0.15 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.1 | 0.60 | 0.17 | 0.15 |
Doc Rivers | 0.4 | 2.48 | 0.16 | 0.15 |
Kawhi | 1.5 | 9.41 | 0.16 | 0.15 |
Chuck | 0.5 | 3.21 | 0.16 | 0.14 |
MJ | 0.5 | 3.27 | 0.15 | 0.14 |
Chris Paul | 1.3 | 8.49 | 0.15 | 0.14 |
David Thompson | 0.1 | 0.68 | 0.15 | 0.14 |
KAT | 1.6 | 11.06 | 0.14 | 0.13 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.2 | 1.60 | 0.13 | 0.12 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 0.12 | 0.11 | |
Russ | 1.1 | 9.00 | 0.12 | 0.11 |
Nate McMillan | 0.4 | 3.35 | 0.12 | 0.11 |
George Gervin | 0.1 | 0.85 | 0.12 | 0.11 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.4 | 3.45 | 0.12 | 0.11 |
Shawn Marion | 0.7 | 6.11 | 0.11 | 0.11 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.3 | 2.63 | 0.11 | 0.11 |
Fat Lever | 0.2 | 1.78 | 0.11 | 0.10 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.5 | 4.54 | 0.11 | 0.10 |
Iggy | 0.9 | 8.33 | 0.11 | 0.10 |
Dr J | 0.1 | 0.95 | 0.11 | 0.10 |
Jokic | 1 | 11.06 | 0.09 | 0.08 |
D Rose | 0.8 | 9.00 | 0.09 | 0.08 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.1 | 1.15 | 0.09 | 0.08 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.1 | 1.20 | 0.08 | 0.08 |
Jimmy | 0.8 | 9.68 | 0.08 | 0.08 |
Dray | 0.8 | 10.01 | 0.08 | 0.07 |
AK47 | 0.5 | 6.29 | 0.08 | 0.07 |
Blake | 0.7 | 9.42 | 0.07 | 0.07 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.1 | 1.42 | 0.07 | 0.07 |
Horford | 0.6 | 8.84 | 0.07 | 0.06 |
D Wade | 0.5 | 7.37 | 0.07 | 0.06 |
Giannis | 0.7 | 10.32 | 0.07 | 0.06 |
Millsap | 0.5 | 8.67 | 0.06 | 0.05 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.5 | 8.67 | 0.06 | 0.05 |
Marc Gasol | 0.5 | 8.74 | 0.06 | 0.05 |
CWebb | 0.3 | 5.25 | 0.06 | 0.05 |
James Worthy | 0.1 | 1.78 | 0.06 | 0.05 |
Tony Parker | 0.4 | 7.12 | 0.06 | 0.05 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.2 | 3.70 | 0.05 | 0.05 |
AD | 0.5 | 10.01 | 0.05 | 0.05 |
Rod Strickland | 0.2 | 4.26 | 0.05 | 0.04 |
Bosh | 0.3 | 6.64 | 0.05 | 0.04 |
Grant Hill | 0.2 | 5.71 | 0.04 | 0.03 |
AC Green | 0.1 | 3.45 | 0.03 | 0.03 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.1 | 3.54 | 0.03 | 0.03 |
Karl Malone | 0.1 | 3.72 | 0.03 | 0.02 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.2 | 8.67 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
Vlade Divac | 0.1 | 4.39 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
KG | 0.1 | 6.05 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
Andre Miller | 0.1 | 6.25 | 0.02 | 0.01 |
Pau | 0.1 | 7.12 | 0.01 | 0.01 |
Walt Frazier | 0 | 0.80 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Wes Unseld | 0 | 0.65 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Earl Monroe | 0 | 0.80 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Kareem | 0 | 0.99 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Tim Duncan | 0 | 6.06 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Artis Gilmore | 0 | 0.99 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Shaq | 0 | 5.33 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Moses | 0 | 1.72 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
David Robinson | 0 | 4.25 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Hakeem | 0 | 3.41 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Dan Issel | 0 | 0.98 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Robert Parish | 0 | 2.26 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Dwight | 0 | 8.33 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Adrian Dantley | 0 | 1.20 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Ewing | 0 | 3.55 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Elvin Hayes | 0 | 0.60 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Horace Grant | 0 | 4.02 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Buck Williams | 0 | 2.57 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bob Lanier | 0 | 0.60 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Dikembe | 0 | 5.04 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Elton Brand | 0 | 6.25 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
McHale | 0 | 1.47 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Larry Nance | 0 | 1.68 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0 | 1.43 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Otis Thorpe | 0 | 3.30 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Tyson Chandler | 0 | 7.39 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Alex English | 0 | 1.20 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bobby Jones | 0 | 0.78 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Marques Johnson | 0 | 0.78 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Yao | 0 | 5.98 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Dave Cowens | 0 | 0.65 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bob McAdoo | 0 | 0.69 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bill Walton | 0 | 0.78 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Mark Eaton | 0 | 1.64 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Tree Rollins | 0 | 1.79 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Gobert | 0 | 10.32 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0 | 5.11 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
And we can close perimeter shooting with 3P%. One problem here is that we have two outliers – Pete Maravich at 66.7% on 15 total threes taken and Wes Unseld at 50% on a grand total of six attempted threes. Obviously we can’t just leave those numbers as they stand, or everyone’s relative GOAT points – based in most cases on far more threes – would suffer. There are two options. The first is to give Maravich and Unseld the full GOAT points, and then to also give Larry Bird (#3) the full points and use his numbers to determine how everyone else stacks up. The other is to pick a number (say 1 like league average) and just put Maravich and Unseld there since they took so many threes. I’m going with the latter. To give Maravich and Unseld as much credit as the game’s very best shooters is a little ridiculous. So I’ll put them both at 1.05 (a completely arbitrary number based on the fact that they did at least make some threes) and call it a day.
Player | 3P% | League Average 3P% | GOAT POINTS | |
Larry | 0.376 | 0.29 | 1.30 | 1.00 |
Nash | 0.428 | 0.35 | 1.21 | 0.93 |
Steph | 0.428 | 0.36 | 1.20 | 0.92 |
Mark Price | 0.402 | 0.34 | 1.20 | 0.92 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.403 | 0.34 | 1.20 | 0.92 |
Klay | 0.417 | 0.36 | 1.17 | 0.90 |
Reggie | 0.395 | 0.34 | 1.15 | 0.89 |
Stockton | 0.384 | 0.33 | 1.15 | 0.89 |
Terry Porter | 0.386 | 0.34 | 1.15 | 0.88 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.384 | 0.33 | 1.15 | 0.88 |
Mullin | 0.384 | 0.33 | 1.15 | 0.88 |
Jack Sikma | 0.328 | 0.29 | 1.15 | 0.88 |
Ray Allen | 0.4 | 0.35 | 1.13 | 0.87 |
KAT | 0.397 | 0.36 | 1.11 | 0.85 |
Kyrie | 0.393 | 0.36 | 1.10 | 0.85 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.326 | 0.30 | 1.10 | 0.85 |
Sam Perkins | 0.362 | 0.33 | 1.09 | 0.84 |
Chauncey | 0.387 | 0.35 | 1.09 | 0.84 |
Dr J | 0.298 | 0.28 | 1.08 | 0.83 |
Kawhi | 0.384 | 0.36 | 1.08 | 0.83 |
KD | 0.384 | 0.36 | 1.07 | 0.83 |
Dirk | 0.38 | 0.36 | 1.07 | 0.82 |
Paul George | 0.382 | 0.36 | 1.07 | 0.82 |
Jason Terry | 0.38 | 0.36 | 1.07 | 0.82 |
Eddie Jones | 0.373 | 0.35 | 1.05 | 0.81 |
Pistol Pete | 0.667 | 0.28 | 1.05 | 0.81 |
Wes Unseld | 0.5 | 0.26 | 1.05 | 0.81 |
Vince | 0.371 | 0.36 | 1.04 | 0.80 |
K Love | 0.373 | 0.36 | 1.04 | 0.80 |
Dame | 0.373 | 0.36 | 1.04 | 0.80 |
Joe Johnson | 0.371 | 0.36 | 1.04 | 0.80 |
Magic | 0.303 | 0.29 | 1.04 | 0.80 |
Paul Pierce | 0.368 | 0.35 | 1.04 | 0.80 |
Manu | 0.369 | 0.36 | 1.04 | 0.80 |
Pau | 0.368 | 0.36 | 1.03 | 0.79 |
Doc Rivers | 0.328 | 0.32 | 1.03 | 0.79 |
Chris Paul | 0.369 | 0.36 | 1.03 | 0.79 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.355 | 0.35 | 1.03 | 0.79 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.368 | 0.36 | 1.03 | 0.79 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.356 | 0.35 | 1.03 | 0.79 |
Nate McMillan | 0.343 | 0.34 | 1.02 | 0.79 |
Fat Lever | 0.31 | 0.30 | 1.02 | 0.79 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.355 | 0.35 | 1.02 | 0.78 |
Rick Barry | 0.297 | 0.29 | 1.01 | 0.78 |
Harden | 0.361 | 0.36 | 1.01 | 0.78 |
Marc Gasol | 0.36 | 0.36 | 1.01 | 0.77 |
Horford | 0.36 | 0.36 | 1.01 | 0.77 |
Dominique | 0.319 | 0.32 | 1.00 | 0.77 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 1.00 | 0.77 | |
George Gervin | 0.271 | 0.27 | 0.99 | 0.76 |
Melo | 0.355 | 0.36 | 0.99 | 0.76 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.284 | 0.29 | 0.99 | 0.76 |
MJ | 0.327 | 0.33 | 0.99 | 0.76 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.318 | 0.32 | 0.99 | 0.76 |
Kidd | 0.349 | 0.36 | 0.98 | 0.76 |
David Thompson | 0.255 | 0.26 | 0.97 | 0.75 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.336 | 0.34 | 0.97 | 0.75 |
LeBron | 0.346 | 0.36 | 0.97 | 0.75 |
IT | 0.29 | 0.30 | 0.97 | 0.74 |
Jokic | 0.345 | 0.36 | 0.96 | 0.74 |
T-Mac | 0.338 | 0.35 | 0.96 | 0.74 |
Millsap | 0.341 | 0.36 | 0.95 | 0.73 |
Pippen | 0.326 | 0.34 | 0.95 | 0.73 |
Sheed Wallace | 0.336 | 0.36 | 0.95 | 0.73 |
Bosh | 0.335 | 0.36 | 0.94 | 0.72 |
Shawn Marion | 0.331 | 0.36 | 0.93 | 0.72 |
Kobe | 0.329 | 0.35 | 0.93 | 0.71 |
Iggy | 0.33 | 0.36 | 0.92 | 0.71 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.263 | 0.29 | 0.92 | 0.71 |
Blake | 0.327 | 0.36 | 0.92 | 0.70 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.295 | 0.32 | 0.91 | 0.70 |
Gary Payton | 0.317 | 0.35 | 0.91 | 0.70 |
Tony Parker | 0.324 | 0.36 | 0.91 | 0.70 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.324 | 0.36 | 0.91 | 0.70 |
Jimmy | 0.321 | 0.36 | 0.90 | 0.69 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.305 | 0.34 | 0.90 | 0.69 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.32 | 0.36 | 0.89 | 0.69 |
McHale | 0.261 | 0.29 | 0.89 | 0.68 |
Grant Hill | 0.314 | 0.36 | 0.88 | 0.68 |
AI | 0.313 | 0.35 | 0.88 | 0.68 |
D Rose | 0.316 | 0.36 | 0.88 | 0.68 |
Dray | 0.315 | 0.36 | 0.88 | 0.68 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.224 | 0.26 | 0.88 | 0.68 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.255 | 0.29 | 0.87 | 0.67 |
AK47 | 0.31 | 0.36 | 0.87 | 0.67 |
Russ | 0.305 | 0.36 | 0.85 | 0.66 |
AD | 0.303 | 0.36 | 0.85 | 0.65 |
CWebb | 0.299 | 0.35 | 0.85 | 0.65 |
D Wade | 0.293 | 0.36 | 0.82 | 0.63 |
Rod Strickland | 0.282 | 0.34 | 0.82 | 0.63 |
Karl Malone | 0.274 | 0.34 | 0.81 | 0.63 |
Chuck | 0.266 | 0.33 | 0.81 | 0.62 |
Giannis | 0.288 | 0.36 | 0.81 | 0.62 |
James Worthy | 0.241 | 0.30 | 0.79 | 0.61 |
KG | 0.275 | 0.36 | 0.77 | 0.60 |
AC Green | 0.254 | 0.33 | 0.76 | 0.58 |
Alex English | 0.217 | 0.29 | 0.76 | 0.58 |
Dan Issel | 0.204 | 0.28 | 0.74 | 0.57 |
David Robinson | 0.25 | 0.35 | 0.72 | 0.56 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.247 | 0.35 | 0.70 | 0.54 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.231 | 0.34 | 0.69 | 0.53 |
Vlade Divac | 0.235 | 0.35 | 0.68 | 0.52 |
Andre Miller | 0.217 | 0.36 | 0.61 | 0.47 |
Hakeem | 0.202 | 0.33 | 0.61 | 0.47 |
Bob Lanier | 0.154 | 0.26 | 0.60 | 0.46 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.171 | 0.29 | 0.60 | 0.46 |
Dwight | 0.214 | 0.36 | 0.60 | 0.46 |
Elvin Hayes | 0.147 | 0.26 | 0.58 | 0.44 |
Marques Johnson | 0.152 | 0.27 | 0.57 | 0.44 |
Yao | 0.2 | 0.36 | 0.56 | 0.43 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.15 | 0.28 | 0.54 | 0.41 |
Buck Williams | 0.167 | 0.31 | 0.53 | 0.41 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0.154 | 0.29 | 0.53 | 0.41 |
Tim Duncan | 0.179 | 0.35 | 0.51 | 0.39 |
Larry Nance | 0.145 | 0.30 | 0.48 | 0.37 |
Ewing | 0.152 | 0.34 | 0.45 | 0.35 |
Moses | 0.096 | 0.30 | 0.32 | 0.25 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.081 | 0.26 | 0.31 | 0.24 |
Dave Cowens | 0.071 | 0.26 | 0.27 | 0.21 |
Elton Brand | 0.095 | 0.36 | 0.27 | 0.21 |
Kareem | 0.056 | 0.28 | 0.20 | 0.16 |
Horace Grant | 0.063 | 0.34 | 0.18 | 0.14 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.047 | 0.33 | 0.14 | 0.11 |
Shaq | 0.045 | 0.35 | 0.13 | 0.10 |
Robert Parish | 0 | 0.31 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Walt Frazier | 0 | 0.28 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Dikembe | 0 | 0.35 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Tyson Chandler | 0 | 0.36 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bobby Jones | 0 | 0.27 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Bill Walton | 0 | 0.27 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Mark Eaton | 0 | 0.30 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Tree Rollins | 0 | 0.30 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Gobert | 0 | 0.36 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Earl Monroe | 0 | 0.28 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Last up in the scoring category is a look at free throws. We’ll split volume and efficiency into equal value. Efficiency is simple for free throws – it’s free throw percentage and nothing else. Theoretically there are free throws that happen at more important points of the game that might end up having a greater impact on the final score, but there’s really no reason to go any deeper on free throw efficiency than simple makes and misses. And that’s where we stopped on threes too, where you could break things down into shot difficulty (largely based on defender placement), shot type (off-the-dribble, catch-and-shoot, etc.), shot distance, and more. Free throws are just free throws. For volume, we’ll use two metrics. The first is pretty simple – free throws per game. The second is free throws per field goal attempt. That will give us a little more nuance given that players that shoot a lot are naturally more likely to shoot more free throws. By taking field goal attempts into account, we get at least a slightly better look at how good players really are at turning potential free throw opportunities into actual trips to the line, rather than taking a look at the full game where Player A might have twice the realistic free throw opportunities than Player B.
We’ll start with free throws per game, which will be good for 0.3 GOAT points for the leader. I’m going to adjust for era here since a player shooting 5 free throws in a game with a total of 20 is clearly very different than a player shooting 5 free throws in a game with a total of 40 (these are all very made up numbers). We’ll do what we did to adjust for points, taking the top season average, dividing all the other season averages by that number to create a bunch of multipliers, and then multiplying a players’ career average in free throws per game by the mean multiplier across the seasons of their career.
Player | FTA | Multiplier | EA FTA | GOAT POINTS |
Harden | 8.7 | 1.672660389 | 14.55 | 0.30 |
Shaq | 9.3 | 1.503555303 | 13.98 | 0.29 |
AI | 8.9 | 1.522236843 | 13.55 | 0.28 |
Karl Malone | 8.9 | 1.435345611 | 12.77 | 0.26 |
Wilt | 11.4 | 1.116582122 | 12.73 | 0.26 |
LeBron | 7.8 | 1.621427855 | 12.65 | 0.26 |
KD | 7.6 | 1.65555633 | 12.58 | 0.26 |
Giannis | 7.4 | 1.687133352 | 12.48 | 0.26 |
Dwight | 7.6 | 1.623582479 | 12.34 | 0.25 |
David Robinson | 8.3 | 1.465938968 | 12.17 | 0.25 |
AD | 7 | 1.690942539 | 11.84 | 0.24 |
Adrian Dantley | 8.7 | 1.330318287 | 11.57 | 0.24 |
Kobe | 7.4 | 1.562394672 | 11.56 | 0.24 |
MJ | 8.2 | 1.401020715 | 11.49 | 0.24 |
Russ | 6.9 | 1.66394231 | 11.48 | 0.24 |
D Wade | 7.1 | 1899-12 | 11.38 | 0.23 |
Chuck | 8.1 | 1.392160914 | 11.28 | 0.23 |
Moses | 8.2 | 1.34868613 | 11.06 | 0.23 |
Jimmy | 6.4 | 1.691967965 | 10.83 | 0.22 |
Bob Pettit | 10.3 | 1.048273297 | 10.80 | 0.22 |
Jerry West | 9.4 | 1.147870809 | 10.79 | 0.22 |
Dame | 6.2 | 1.690942539 | 10.48 | 0.22 |
Alonzo Mourning | 7 | 1.492750377 | 10.45 | 0.22 |
Blake | 6.2 | 1.681776646 | 10.43 | 0.21 |
Oscar | 8.8 | 1.147870809 | 10.10 | 0.21 |
Paul Pierce | 6.4 | 1.575568123 | 10.08 | 0.21 |
George Mikan | 8.9 | 1.131417492 | 10.07 | 0.21 |
Melo | 6.2 | 1.621427855 | 10.05 | 0.21 |
Bosh | 6.3 | 1.581722087 | 9.96 | 0.21 |
David Thompson | 7.3 | 1.348612715 | 9.84 | 0.20 |
Tim Duncan | 6.1 | 1.564950497 | 9.55 | 0.20 |
Dominique | 6.9 | 1.376685872 | 9.50 | 0.20 |
Elgin Baylor | 8.7 | 1.083815153 | 9.43 | 0.19 |
Yao | 6.1 | 1.529461529 | 9.33 | 0.19 |
Paul Arizin | 8.7 | 1.068483747 | 9.30 | 0.19 |
Walt Bellamy | 7.8 | 1.183283459 | 9.23 | 0.19 |
Pistol Pete | 6.6 | 1.382647679 | 9.13 | 0.19 |
Kevin Johnson | 6.4 | 1.419391495 | 9.08 | 0.19 |
Dan Issel | 6.8 | 1.334253069 | 9.07 | 0.19 |
Tiny Archibald | 6.6 | 1.366701166 | 9.02 | 0.19 |
KAT | 5.3 | 1.697356322 | 9.00 | 0.19 |
Artis Gilmore | 6.6 | 1.334026913 | 8.80 | 0.18 |
Ewing | 6.2 | 1.418779403 | 8.80 | 0.18 |
Hakeem | 6.2 | 1.412331719 | 8.76 | 0.18 |
Dr J | 6.5 | 1.335144145 | 8.68 | 0.18 |
Magic | 6.5 | 1.332377844 | 8.66 | 0.18 |
George Gervin | 6.4 | 1.350154721 | 8.64 | 0.18 |
Billy Cunningham | 7.1 | 1.215521291 | 8.63 | 0.18 |
Gobert | 5.1 | 1.687133352 | 8.60 | 0.18 |
Dirk | 5.4 | 1.588513331 | 8.58 | 0.18 |
Dolph Schayes | 7.9 | 1.076236607 | 8.50 | 0.18 |
K Love | 5.1 | 1.66394231 | 8.49 | 0.17 |
T-Mac | 5.5 | 1.537958411 | 8.46 | 0.17 |
Bob McAdoo | 6.1 | 1.378696135 | 8.41 | 0.17 |
Ed Macauley | 7.7 | 1.085616944 | 8.36 | 0.17 |
Grant Hill | 5.4 | 1.535393531 | 8.29 | 0.17 |
Pau | 5.1 | 1.601238735 | 8.17 | 0.17 |
Elvin Hayes | 6.1 | 1.335287534 | 8.15 | 0.17 |
Rick Barry | 6.3 | 1.28825555 | 8.12 | 0.17 |
Dave Bing | 6.3 | 1.284713529 | 8.09 | 0.17 |
Kareem | 6 | 1.336940617 | 8.02 | 0.17 |
Paul George | 4.7 | 1.681776646 | 7.90 | 0.16 |
Lenny Wilkens | 6.5 | 1.17266884 | 7.62 | 0.16 |
Kawhi | 4.5 | 1.686278917 | 7.59 | 0.16 |
Clyde Drexler | 5.5 | 1.371053787 | 7.54 | 0.16 |
Chris Paul | 4.6 | 1.632767745 | 7.51 | 0.15 |
Chauncey | 4.8 | 1.553969574 | 7.46 | 0.15 |
Kyrie | 4.4 | 1.691967965 | 7.44 | 0.15 |
Reggie | 5.1 | 1.456624192 | 7.43 | 0.15 |
Chet Walker | 6.2 | 1.194894108 | 7.41 | 0.15 |
Elton Brand | 4.7 | 1899-12 | 7.41 | 0.15 |
Sidney Moncrief | 5.6 | 1.322512866 | 7.41 | 0.15 |
Jokic | 4.3 | 1.697356322 | 7.30 | 0.15 |
AK47 | 4.6 | 1.578896487 | 7.26 | 0.15 |
IT | 5.4 | 1.340321159 | 7.24 | 0.15 |
Steph | 4.3 | 1.672660389 | 7.19 | 0.15 |
Bailey Howell | 6.6 | 1899-12 | 7.09 | 0.15 |
CWebb | 4.7 | 1.50008897 | 7.05 | 0.15 |
Bob Lanier | 5.1 | 1899-12 | 6.97 | 0.14 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 4.2 | 1899-12 | 6.90 | 0.14 |
Detlef Schrempf | 4.9 | 1.406875384 | 6.89 | 0.14 |
Marc Gasol | 4.1 | 1.657410299 | 6.80 | 0.14 |
Kyle Lowry | 4.1 | 1.643798619 | 6.74 | 0.14 |
Walt Frazier | 5.1 | 1.314585079 | 6.70 | 0.14 |
Larry | 5 | 1.331123948 | 6.66 | 0.14 |
Bob Cousy | 6.2 | 1.070753058 | 6.64 | 0.14 |
KG | 4.2 | 1.55707862 | 6.54 | 0.13 |
Nate Thurmond | 5.3 | 1.233802453 | 6.54 | 0.13 |
Rod Strickland | 4.4 | 1.464887309 | 6.45 | 0.13 |
Earl Monroe | 4.9 | 1.314585079 | 6.44 | 0.13 |
Zelmo Beaty | 5.5 | 1.168688588 | 6.43 | 0.13 |
Millsap | 3.9 | 1.643798619 | 6.41 | 0.13 |
John Havlicek | 5.2 | 1.230542391 | 6.40 | 0.13 |
D Rose | 3.8 | 1.66394231 | 6.32 | 0.13 |
Otis Thorpe | 4.5 | 1.400748661 | 6.30 | 0.13 |
Buck Williams | 4.6 | 1.368136737 | 6.29 | 0.13 |
McHale | 4.7 | 1.331506535 | 6.26 | 0.13 |
Manu | 3.9 | 1.597190305 | 6.23 | 0.13 |
Marques Johnson | 4.7 | 1.320947101 | 6.21 | 0.13 |
Vince | 3.9 | 1.59167221 | 6.21 | 0.13 |
Dikembe | 4.1 | 1.492726125 | 6.12 | 0.13 |
Jack Sikma | 4.6 | 1899-12 | 6.10 | 0.13 |
Bill Russell | 5.8 | 1.052002775 | 6.10 | 0.13 |
Willis Reed | 5.1 | 1.185264406 | 6.04 | 0.12 |
Andre Miller | 3.8 | 1.576075857 | 5.99 | 0.12 |
Mullin | 4.2 | 1.406875384 | 5.91 | 0.12 |
Ray Allen | 3.8 | 1.551739819 | 5.90 | 0.12 |
Tony Parker | 3.6 | 1899-12 | 5.76 | 0.12 |
Alex English | 4.3 | 1.330318287 | 5.72 | 0.12 |
Hal Greer | 5.1 | 1.112483075 | 5.67 | 0.12 |
Larry Nance | 4.2 | 1.340321159 | 5.63 | 0.12 |
Tim Hardaway | 3.8 | 1.465938968 | 5.57 | 0.11 |
Stockton | 3.9 | 1.420612793 | 5.54 | 0.11 |
Pippen | 3.8 | 1.455988382 | 5.53 | 0.11 |
Vlade Divac | 3.7 | 1.473326446 | 5.45 | 0.11 |
Clifford Robinson | 3.7 | 1.472051658 | 5.45 | 0.11 |
Eddie Jones | 3.6 | 1.50439178 | 5.42 | 0.11 |
Bill Sharman | 5 | 1.071769086 | 5.36 | 0.11 |
Iggy | 3.3 | 1.623582479 | 5.36 | 0.11 |
Tyson Chandler | 3.2 | 1.604226626 | 5.13 | 0.11 |
Gary Payton | 3.4 | 1.479592365 | 5.03 | 0.10 |
Dave DeBusschere | 4.3 | 1.167815178 | 5.02 | 0.10 |
Doc Rivers | 3.6 | 1.353515311 | 4.87 | 0.10 |
Bill Walton | 3.6 | 1.348905814 | 4.86 | 0.10 |
Jerry Lucas | 4.1 | 1.176993616 | 4.83 | 0.10 |
Robert Parish | 3.5 | 1.361410859 | 4.76 | 0.10 |
Bobby Jones | 3.5 | 1.352513195 | 4.73 | 0.10 |
Dave Cowens | 3.4 | 1.37998488 | 4.69 | 0.10 |
AC Green | 3.3 | 1.406875384 | 4.64 | 0.10 |
Sam Perkins | 3.3 | 1.400748661 | 4.62 | 0.10 |
Mark Price | 3.3 | 1.392458085 | 4.60 | 0.09 |
James Worthy | 3.4 | 1.340417852 | 4.56 | 0.09 |
Terry Porter | 3.2 | 1899-12 | 4.54 | 0.09 |
Sheed Wallace | 2.9 | 1.542177387 | 4.47 | 0.09 |
Joe Johnson | 2.7 | 1.618383099 | 4.37 | 0.09 |
Jeff Hornacek | 3.1 | 1.407701938 | 4.36 | 0.09 |
Nash | 2.8 | 1.551739819 | 4.34 | 0.09 |
Sam Jones | 4.1 | 1.053174641 | 4.32 | 0.09 |
Kidd | 2.8 | 1.535393531 | 4.30 | 0.09 |
Alvin Robertson | 3.1 | 1.35884473 | 4.21 | 0.09 |
Fat Lever | 3.1 | 1.340417852 | 4.16 | 0.09 |
Terrell Brandon | 2.8 | 1.476077629 | 4.13 | 0.09 |
Wes Unseld | 3 | 1899-12 | 4.01 | 0.08 |
Shawn Marion | 2.5 | 1.572283589 | 3.93 | 0.08 |
Horace Grant | 2.6 | 1899-12 | 3.79 | 0.08 |
Klay | 2.2 | 1.691967965 | 3.72 | 0.08 |
Jason Terry | 2.3 | 1.590330272 | 3.66 | 0.08 |
Bill Laimbeer | 2.7 | 1.339245327 | 3.62 | 0.07 |
Mo Cheeks | 2.7 | 1.336042646 | 3.61 | 0.07 |
Dray | 2.1 | 1.690942539 | 3.55 | 0.07 |
Horford | 2.1 | 1.65555633 | 3.48 | 0.07 |
Rajon Rondo | 1.9 | 1.643798619 | 3.12 | 0.06 |
Dennis Rodman | 2 | 1.407701938 | 2.82 | 0.06 |
Mookie Blaylock | 1.9 | 1.457959494 | 2.77 | 0.06 |
Mark Eaton | 1.9 | 1.3313786 | 2.53 | 0.05 |
Nate McMillan | 1.5 | 1.392458085 | 2.09 | 0.04 |
Tree Rollins | 1.3 | 1.346798055 | 1.75 | 0.04 |
We can do the same thing with free throws per field goal attempt, which will be worth 0.2 GOAT points for the leader.
Player | FT/FGA | Multiplier | EA FT/FGA | GOAT POINTS |
Dwight | 0.787 | 1.547851508 | 1.22 | 0.20 |
Gobert | 0.732 | 1.405902984 | 1.03 | 0.17 |
David Robinson | 0.577 | 1.647801637 | 0.95 | 0.16 |
Moses | 0.572 | 1.652485647 | 0.95 | 0.15 |
Shaq | 0.578 | 1.631663873 | 0.94 | 0.15 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.552 | 1.647801637 | 0.91 | 0.15 |
Dikembe | 0.617 | 1899-12 | 0.89 | 0.15 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.623 | 1.432416349 | 0.89 | 0.15 |
AK47 | 0.554 | 1.592871212 | 0.88 | 0.14 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.544 | 1.552702907 | 0.84 | 0.14 |
Buck Williams | 0.513 | 1.6391443 | 0.84 | 0.14 |
Wilt | 0.505 | 1.647801637 | 0.83 | 0.14 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.604 | 1.357116661 | 0.82 | 0.13 |
Karl Malone | 0.503 | 1.603679267 | 0.81 | 0.13 |
Ed Macauley | 0.574 | 1.356395888 | 0.78 | 0.13 |
Jerry West | 0.462 | 1.674182296 | 0.77 | 0.13 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.527 | 1.438888083 | 0.76 | 0.12 |
Chuck | 0.554 | 1.362733446 | 0.75 | 0.12 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.508 | 1899-12 | 0.74 | 0.12 |
Walt Bellamy | 0.527 | 1.366804069 | 0.72 | 0.12 |
Bob Pettit | 0.481 | 1.497155091 | 0.72 | 0.12 |
Harden | 0.524 | 1.342974158 | 0.70 | 0.12 |
Giannis | 0.502 | 1.399037475 | 0.70 | 0.12 |
Paul Pierce | 0.441 | 1.57792042 | 0.70 | 0.11 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.446 | 1.552702907 | 0.69 | 0.11 |
Jimmy | 0.513 | 1.345081559 | 0.69 | 0.11 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.512 | 1.342132491 | 0.69 | 0.11 |
AC Green | 0.462 | 1.451231348 | 0.67 | 0.11 |
Magic | 0.489 | 1.364820809 | 0.67 | 0.11 |
Lenny Wilkens | 0.487 | 1.365930412 | 0.67 | 0.11 |
Dolph Schayes | 0.512 | 1.280091304 | 0.66 | 0.11 |
Oscar | 0.468 | 1.399520176 | 0.65 | 0.11 |
Bailey Howell | 0.458 | 1.411764146 | 0.65 | 0.11 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.456 | 1.411409926 | 0.64 | 0.11 |
Tim Duncan | 0.416 | 1899-12 | 0.63 | 0.10 |
Yao | 0.463 | 1.360461869 | 0.63 | 0.10 |
George Mikan | 0.447 | 1.40187042 | 0.63 | 0.10 |
Paul Arizin | 0.463 | 1.352349613 | 0.63 | 0.10 |
K Love | 0.386 | 1.618499446 | 0.62 | 0.10 |
Bosh | 0.444 | 1.39582675 | 0.62 | 0.10 |
Blake | 0.412 | 1.500726901 | 0.62 | 0.10 |
Chet Walker | 0.436 | 1.405338411 | 0.61 | 0.10 |
Bill Russell | 0.434 | 1.407154497 | 0.61 | 0.10 |
Chauncey | 0.441 | 1.377210883 | 0.61 | 0.10 |
Stockton | 0.424 | 1.430709499 | 0.61 | 0.10 |
Grant Hill | 0.419 | 1.434693114 | 0.60 | 0.10 |
Bobby Jones | 0.409 | 1.460310209 | 0.60 | 0.10 |
D Wade | 0.424 | 1.399491567 | 0.59 | 0.10 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0.421 | 1.408457774 | 0.59 | 0.10 |
MJ | 0.358 | 1.652485647 | 0.59 | 0.10 |
Andre Miller | 0.38 | 1.547851508 | 0.59 | 0.10 |
David Thompson | 0.433 | 1.352349613 | 0.59 | 0.10 |
Doc Rivers | 0.417 | 1.401364756 | 0.58 | 0.10 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.405 | 1.440396942 | 0.58 | 0.10 |
Reggie | 0.402 | 1.44441922 | 0.58 | 0.10 |
Pau | 0.401 | 1.434034362 | 0.58 | 0.09 |
Rod Strickland | 0.399 | 1.440396942 | 0.57 | 0.09 |
AI | 0.41 | 1.40158379 | 0.57 | 0.09 |
Dominique | 0.345 | 1.654722614 | 0.57 | 0.09 |
AD | 0.404 | 1.412446457 | 0.57 | 0.09 |
T-Mac | 0.338 | 1.674182296 | 0.57 | 0.09 |
Millsap | 0.376 | 1.503502657 | 0.57 | 0.09 |
KD | 0.407 | 1.386596164 | 0.56 | 0.09 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.371 | 1.513591557 | 0.56 | 0.09 |
Ewing | 0.379 | 1.47937148 | 0.56 | 0.09 |
Manu | 0.398 | 1.407730643 | 0.56 | 0.09 |
Dan Issel | 0.398 | 1.373981535 | 0.55 | 0.09 |
Wes Unseld | 0.347 | 1.564086391 | 0.54 | 0.09 |
Mark Eaton | 0.365 | 1.483323385 | 0.54 | 0.09 |
Larry Nance | 0.334 | 1.618499446 | 0.54 | 0.09 |
Elvin Hayes | 0.33 | 1.631663873 | 0.54 | 0.09 |
Walt Frazier | 0.338 | 1.57792042 | 0.53 | 0.09 |
Iggy | 0.368 | 1.448802907 | 0.53 | 0.09 |
Vlade Divac | 0.397 | 1.340876718 | 0.53 | 0.09 |
Nate Thurmond | 0.388 | 1.363545871 | 0.53 | 0.09 |
Kobe | 0.382 | 1.378508963 | 0.53 | 0.09 |
Robert Parish | 0.318 | 1.652485647 | 0.53 | 0.09 |
Marc Gasol | 0.376 | 1.396823375 | 0.53 | 0.09 |
Russ | 0.37 | 1.409033852 | 0.52 | 0.09 |
LeBron | 0.398 | 1.309499513 | 0.52 | 0.09 |
Sam Perkins | 0.358 | 1.451025611 | 0.52 | 0.09 |
McHale | 0.369 | 1.406617384 | 0.52 | 0.09 |
Hakeem | 0.363 | 1.417296584 | 0.51 | 0.08 |
Elton Brand | 0.374 | 1.36737021 | 0.51 | 0.08 |
Dirk | 0.347 | 1.464807201 | 0.51 | 0.08 |
Elgin Baylor | 0.366 | 1.370241563 | 0.50 | 0.08 |
Jack Sikma | 0.366 | 1.358661388 | 0.50 | 0.08 |
Dave Bing | 0.36 | 1.35283776 | 0.49 | 0.08 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.345 | 1.411277701 | 0.49 | 0.08 |
Dr J | 0.345 | 1.407533425 | 0.49 | 0.08 |
Kareem | 0.329 | 1.470872204 | 0.48 | 0.08 |
Bob Cousy | 0.35 | 1.375115606 | 0.48 | 0.08 |
Terry Porter | 0.35 | 1.372239781 | 0.48 | 0.08 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.337 | 1.413650124 | 0.48 | 0.08 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.354 | 1.334320758 | 0.47 | 0.08 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.313 | 1.507817333 | 0.47 | 0.08 |
Bill Walton | 0.343 | 1.371182766 | 0.47 | 0.08 |
IT | 0.334 | 1.37927523 | 0.46 | 0.08 |
Chris Paul | 0.337 | 1.350079594 | 0.45 | 0.07 |
Bob Lanier | 0.322 | 1.412187889 | 0.45 | 0.07 |
Kawhi | 0.324 | 1899-12 | 0.45 | 0.07 |
Dame | 0.335 | 1.349900186 | 0.45 | 0.07 |
Nate McMillan | 0.286 | 1.57792042 | 0.45 | 0.07 |
Pippen | 0.283 | 1.593625749 | 0.45 | 0.07 |
Willis Reed | 0.323 | 1.390838331 | 0.45 | 0.07 |
KAT | 0.327 | 1.370241563 | 0.45 | 0.07 |
Eddie Jones | 0.301 | 1899-12 | 0.44 | 0.07 |
Bill Sharman | 0.318 | 1.395737889 | 0.44 | 0.07 |
Dave DeBusschere | 0.282 | 1.541434021 | 0.43 | 0.07 |
KG | 0.293 | 1.478073923 | 0.43 | 0.07 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.306 | 1.41527879 | 0.43 | 0.07 |
Paul George | 0.296 | 1.448802907 | 0.43 | 0.07 |
Melo | 0.343 | 1.241393318 | 0.43 | 0.07 |
Jokic | 0.306 | 1.366684511 | 0.42 | 0.07 |
Pistol Pete | 0.31 | 1.346090133 | 0.42 | 0.07 |
Tree Rollins | 0.307 | 1.356395888 | 0.42 | 0.07 |
Larry | 0.258 | 1.603679267 | 0.41 | 0.07 |
Rick Barry | 0.301 | 1.364820809 | 0.41 | 0.07 |
Jerry Lucas | 0.294 | 1899-12 | 0.41 | 0.07 |
Dray | 0.292 | 1.369461638 | 0.40 | 0.07 |
Marques Johnson | 0.295 | 1.349900186 | 0.40 | 0.07 |
Vince | 0.285 | 1.378273667 | 0.39 | 0.06 |
Tony Parker | 0.286 | 1.37289624 | 0.39 | 0.06 |
Earl Monroe | 0.303 | 1.292055682 | 0.39 | 0.06 |
George Gervin | 0.331 | 1.172744496 | 0.39 | 0.06 |
Steph | 0.242 | 1.603679267 | 0.39 | 0.06 |
Mark Price | 0.283 | 1.370241563 | 0.39 | 0.06 |
CWebb | 0.26 | 1.484124555 | 0.39 | 0.06 |
Alex English | 0.244 | 1899-12 | 0.39 | 0.06 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.284 | 1.346491063 | 0.38 | 0.06 |
Gary Payton | 0.24 | 1.592871212 | 0.38 | 0.06 |
John Havlicek | 0.275 | 1.363545871 | 0.37 | 0.06 |
Kidd | 0.254 | 1.475059884 | 0.37 | 0.06 |
Horace Grant | 0.285 | 1899-12 | 0.37 | 0.06 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.26 | 1.434693114 | 0.37 | 0.06 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.265 | 1.403461659 | 0.37 | 0.06 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.27 | 1.373997293 | 0.37 | 0.06 |
D Rose | 0.242 | 1899-12 | 0.37 | 0.06 |
Mullin | 0.315 | 1.158266723 | 0.36 | 0.06 |
Hal Greer | 0.304 | 1.189469946 | 0.36 | 0.06 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.234 | 1.521124445 | 0.36 | 0.06 |
Ray Allen | 0.26 | 1899-12 | 0.35 | 0.06 |
Nash | 0.262 | 1.340168618 | 0.35 | 0.06 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.25 | 1.370829206 | 0.34 | 0.06 |
Fat Lever | 0.243 | 1.405338411 | 0.34 | 0.06 |
Kyrie | 0.241 | 1.370829206 | 0.33 | 0.05 |
Sam Jones | 0.26 | 1.220793037 | 0.32 | 0.05 |
Sheed Wallace | 0.234 | 1.35203727 | 0.32 | 0.05 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.214 | 1.349440781 | 0.29 | 0.05 |
Joe Johnson | 0.196 | 1.467638266 | 0.29 | 0.05 |
Jason Terry | 0.21 | 1.366616917 | 0.29 | 0.05 |
Dave Cowens | 0.207 | 1.358322726 | 0.28 | 0.05 |
James Worthy | 0.241 | 1.120543611 | 0.27 | 0.04 |
Horford | 0.191 | 1.36737021 | 0.26 | 0.04 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.15 | 1.654722614 | 0.25 | 0.04 |
Shawn Marion | 0.191 | 1.128482575 | 0.22 | 0.04 |
Klay | 0.138 | 1.479130009 | 0.20 | 0.03 |
We’ll finish the scoring category with free throw percentage. I’m not going to adjust for era here. There’s limited variation across eras – the league’s FT% has been between 70 and 78 percent every year since 1949. Even if more recent years tend to be a little higher up in that range, there’s really not that much variability there. And while there is likely something to be said for time spent on the practice court increasing over time – and having an indirect effect on things like free throws – the simple fact is that free throws are free throws. And the ability to practice your ability to put the ball in the hoop on an uninterrupted shot from the line hasn’t changed over time. So we’ll go pure percentages here. There are 0.5 GOAT points on the table to match those for volume.
Player | FT% | GOAT POINTS |
Steph | 0.908 | 0.50 |
Nash | 0.904 | 0.50 |
Mark Price | 0.904 | 0.50 |
Ray Allen | 0.894 | 0.49 |
Chauncey | 0.894 | 0.49 |
Rick Barry | 0.893 | 0.49 |
Dame | 0.893 | 0.49 |
Reggie | 0.888 | 0.49 |
Larry | 0.886 | 0.49 |
KD | 0.884 | 0.49 |
Bill Sharman | 0.883 | 0.49 |
Kyrie | 0.882 | 0.49 |
Dirk | 0.879 | 0.48 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.877 | 0.48 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.873 | 0.48 |
Chris Paul | 0.871 | 0.48 |
Mullin | 0.865 | 0.48 |
Harden | 0.86 | 0.47 |
Kawhi | 0.858 | 0.47 |
Dolph Schayes | 0.849 | 0.47 |
Jack Sikma | 0.849 | 0.47 |
Klay | 0.849 | 0.47 |
Magic | 0.848 | 0.47 |
Paul George | 0.848 | 0.47 |
Jason Terry | 0.845 | 0.47 |
George Gervin | 0.841 | 0.46 |
Jimmy | 0.841 | 0.46 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.841 | 0.46 |
Oscar | 0.838 | 0.46 |
Kobe | 0.837 | 0.46 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.837 | 0.46 |
Terry Porter | 0.836 | 0.46 |
MJ | 0.835 | 0.46 |
KAT | 0.833 | 0.46 |
Yao | 0.833 | 0.46 |
Alex English | 0.832 | 0.46 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.831 | 0.46 |
Jokic | 0.83 | 0.46 |
D Rose | 0.83 | 0.46 |
K Love | 0.829 | 0.46 |
Manu | 0.827 | 0.46 |
Stockton | 0.826 | 0.45 |
Pistol Pete | 0.82 | 0.45 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.818 | 0.45 |
John Havlicek | 0.815 | 0.45 |
Jerry West | 0.814 | 0.45 |
Melo | 0.814 | 0.45 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.813 | 0.45 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.813 | 0.45 |
Dominique | 0.811 | 0.45 |
Sam Perkins | 0.811 | 0.45 |
Shawn Marion | 0.81 | 0.45 |
Paul Arizin | 0.81 | 0.45 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.81 | 0.45 |
Eddie Jones | 0.809 | 0.45 |
Andre Miller | 0.807 | 0.44 |
Earl Monroe | 0.807 | 0.44 |
Paul Pierce | 0.806 | 0.44 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.803 | 0.44 |
Bob Cousy | 0.803 | 0.44 |
Sam Jones | 0.803 | 0.44 |
Joe Johnson | 0.802 | 0.44 |
Hal Greer | 0.801 | 0.44 |
Bosh | 0.799 | 0.44 |
Vince | 0.798 | 0.44 |
McHale | 0.798 | 0.44 |
Chet Walker | 0.796 | 0.44 |
AD | 0.794 | 0.44 |
Dan Issel | 0.793 | 0.44 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.793 | 0.44 |
KG | 0.789 | 0.43 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.788 | 0.43 |
Walt Frazier | 0.786 | 0.43 |
Kidd | 0.785 | 0.43 |
Doc Rivers | 0.784 | 0.43 |
Russ | 0.783 | 0.43 |
Jerry Lucas | 0.783 | 0.43 |
Dave Cowens | 0.783 | 0.43 |
George Mikan | 0.782 | 0.43 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.782 | 0.43 |
David Thompson | 0.781 | 0.43 |
Elgin Baylor | 0.78 | 0.43 |
AI | 0.78 | 0.43 |
Dr J | 0.777 | 0.43 |
Marc Gasol | 0.776 | 0.43 |
Dave Bing | 0.775 | 0.43 |
Lenny Wilkens | 0.774 | 0.43 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0.771 | 0.42 |
Fat Lever | 0.771 | 0.42 |
Grant Hill | 0.769 | 0.42 |
James Worthy | 0.769 | 0.42 |
Bob Lanier | 0.767 | 0.42 |
Bobby Jones | 0.766 | 0.42 |
D Wade | 0.765 | 0.42 |
Bailey Howell | 0.762 | 0.42 |
Bob Pettit | 0.761 | 0.42 |
Ed Macauley | 0.761 | 0.42 |
Moses | 0.76 | 0.42 |
Horford | 0.759 | 0.42 |
IT | 0.759 | 0.42 |
Larry Nance | 0.755 | 0.42 |
AK47 | 0.754 | 0.42 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.754 | 0.42 |
Pau | 0.753 | 0.41 |
Tony Parker | 0.751 | 0.41 |
Willis Reed | 0.747 | 0.41 |
T-Mac | 0.746 | 0.41 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.743 | 0.41 |
Karl Malone | 0.742 | 0.41 |
Ewing | 0.74 | 0.41 |
Marques Johnson | 0.739 | 0.41 |
David Robinson | 0.736 | 0.41 |
Elton Brand | 0.736 | 0.41 |
Millsap | 0.736 | 0.41 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.736 | 0.41 |
Chuck | 0.735 | 0.40 |
LeBron | 0.734 | 0.40 |
AC Green | 0.734 | 0.40 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.73 | 0.40 |
Gary Payton | 0.729 | 0.40 |
Kareem | 0.721 | 0.40 |
Robert Parish | 0.721 | 0.40 |
Sheed Wallace | 0.721 | 0.40 |
Rod Strickland | 0.721 | 0.40 |
Giannis | 0.718 | 0.40 |
Hakeem | 0.712 | 0.39 |
Dray | 0.712 | 0.39 |
Iggy | 0.709 | 0.39 |
Pippen | 0.704 | 0.39 |
Tree Rollins | 0.7 | 0.39 |
Dave DeBusschere | 0.699 | 0.38 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.698 | 0.38 |
Tim Duncan | 0.696 | 0.38 |
Blake | 0.696 | 0.38 |
Horace Grant | 0.692 | 0.38 |
Vlade Divac | 0.692 | 0.38 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.692 | 0.38 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.689 | 0.38 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.687 | 0.38 |
Dikembe | 0.684 | 0.38 |
Elvin Hayes | 0.67 | 0.37 |
Nate Thurmond | 0.667 | 0.37 |
Buck Williams | 0.664 | 0.37 |
Bill Walton | 0.66 | 0.36 |
Nate McMillan | 0.65 | 0.36 |
CWebb | 0.649 | 0.36 |
Mark Eaton | 0.649 | 0.36 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.644 | 0.35 |
Gobert | 0.638 | 0.35 |
Wes Unseld | 0.633 | 0.35 |
Walt Bellamy | 0.632 | 0.35 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.611 | 0.34 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.584 | 0.32 |
Dwight | 0.567 | 0.31 |
Bill Russell | 0.561 | 0.31 |
Shaq | 0.527 | 0.29 |
Wilt | 0.511 | 0.28 |
With that, we can rank our 157 players in GOAT points after scoring –
Player | GOAT POINTS |
MJ | 8.29 |
KD | 8.28 |
Steph | 8.24 |
Larry | 8.11 |
Harden | 8.09 |
LeBron | 8.05 |
Kobe | 7.87 |
AI | 7.81 |
Dame | 7.77 |
George Mikan | 7.70 |
Rick Barry | 7.64 |
Wilt | 7.63 |
Dominique | 7.62 |
Reggie | 7.55 |
Kyrie | 7.54 |
KAT | 7.53 |
George Gervin | 7.50 |
Jerry West | 7.43 |
Ray Allen | 7.40 |
Bob Pettit | 7.39 |
Karl Malone | 7.39 |
Dirk | 7.36 |
Chuck | 7.33 |
Paul Arizin | 7.29 |
Paul Pierce | 7.27 |
AD | 7.26 |
Melo | 7.25 |
Oscar | 7.22 |
Dr J | 7.21 |
David Thompson | 7.16 |
Paul George | 7.15 |
Elgin Baylor | 7.12 |
Pistol Pete | 7.12 |
Giannis | 7.12 |
Klay | 7.12 |
Magic | 7.09 |
Mullin | 7.09 |
Kawhi | 7.07 |
Clyde Drexler | 7.07 |
D Wade | 7.06 |
Adrian Dantley | 7.04 |
Russ | 7.02 |
T-Mac | 7.00 |
Jokic | 6.98 |
Mark Price | 6.96 |
Tim Hardaway | 6.96 |
Shaq | 6.95 |
David Robinson | 6.90 |
Ed Macauley | 6.86 |
K Love | 6.78 |
Chauncey | 6.77 |
Bosh | 6.75 |
Bill Sharman | 6.74 |
Chris Paul | 6.73 |
Blake | 6.73 |
Nash | 6.71 |
Walt Bellamy | 6.63 |
Dolph Schayes | 6.62 |
Vince | 6.62 |
Dan Issel | 6.62 |
CWebb | 6.59 |
Yao | 6.58 |
IT | 6.55 |
Hakeem | 6.54 |
Kevin Johnson | 6.54 |
Kareem | 6.52 |
Billy Cunningham | 6.52 |
Alex English | 6.51 |
Jeff Hornacek | 6.51 |
Eddie Jones | 6.49 |
Jimmy | 6.48 |
Bailey Howell | 6.47 |
Tiny Archibald | 6.43 |
Alonzo Mourning | 6.43 |
Dave Bing | 6.43 |
Chet Walker | 6.43 |
Pau | 6.42 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 6.42 |
McHale | 6.42 |
John Havlicek | 6.42 |
Manu | 6.41 |
Ewing | 6.38 |
D Rose | 6.36 |
Detlef Schrempf | 6.32 |
Stockton | 6.32 |
Pippen | 6.32 |
Sidney Moncrief | 6.30 |
Sam Jones | 6.30 |
Tim Duncan | 6.30 |
Terry Porter | 6.29 |
Kyle Lowry | 6.29 |
Grant Hill | 6.29 |
Willis Reed | 6.28 |
Gary Payton | 6.27 |
KG | 6.27 |
Bob McAdoo | 6.27 |
Hal Greer | 6.26 |
Joe Johnson | 6.24 |
Jason Terry | 6.23 |
Artis Gilmore | 6.22 |
Jack Sikma | 6.21 |
Bob Lanier | 6.20 |
Dwight | 6.20 |
Bob Cousy | 6.19 |
Moses | 6.15 |
Tony Parker | 6.13 |
James Worthy | 6.12 |
Marques Johnson | 6.12 |
Sheed Wallace | 6.10 |
Shawn Marion | 6.09 |
Jerry Lucas | 6.08 |
Clifford Robinson | 6.07 |
Terrell Brandon | 5.97 |
Lenny Wilkens | 5.96 |
Sam Perkins | 5.95 |
Mookie Blaylock | 5.93 |
Marc Gasol | 5.90 |
Millsap | 5.89 |
Elvin Hayes | 5.89 |
Horford | 5.86 |
Larry Nance | 5.82 |
Bill Laimbeer | 5.79 |
AK47 | 5.76 |
Kidd | 5.75 |
Alvin Robertson | 5.70 |
Dave DeBusschere | 5.68 |
Zelmo Beaty | 5.67 |
Elton Brand | 5.61 |
Fat Lever | 5.60 |
Doc Rivers | 5.56 |
Rod Strickland | 5.55 |
Nate Thurmond | 5.53 |
Walt Frazier | 5.51 |
Bill Russell | 5.49 |
Iggy | 5.47 |
Gobert | 5.47 |
Earl Monroe | 5.40 |
Andre Miller | 5.37 |
Buck Williams | 5.36 |
Vlade Divac | 5.34 |
Mo Cheeks | 5.31 |
Otis Thorpe | 5.30 |
Dave Cowens | 5.22 |
Robert Parish | 5.16 |
AC Green | 5.09 |
Wes Unseld | 5.08 |
Bobby Jones | 4.95 |
Rajon Rondo | 4.88 |
Dray | 4.88 |
Bill Walton | 4.83 |
Tyson Chandler | 4.69 |
Horace Grant | 4.68 |
Dikembe | 4.64 |
Nate McMillan | 4.56 |
Dennis Rodman | 4.52 |
Tree Rollins | 3.79 |
Mark Eaton | 3.47 |
Some of the names in the 10-20 range – Dame, Rick Barry, Kyrie, KAT, George Mikan, etc – are, to varying degrees, somewhat surprising, and it should be noted that there are plenty of categories left that won’t necessarily go the way of efficient multi-level scorers like KAT and Dame or big-scoring early players like Mikan. Some other surprises – Shaq down near 50th, Kareem near 70th, and Tim Duncan and KG in the 90-99 range. They didn’t stack up particularly well here, but there is, again, plenty of time to catch up ahead. And all four players have a lot of strengths left on the board.
PLAYMAKING (5)
Playmaking comes in next at half the value of scoring. The main reason for this is the drop-off in available statistics. We don’t want to give a larger-than-normal point value to a single statistic here just to give playmaking 10 points. There are a number of stats that we can connect to playmaking these days, but when it comes to reliable stats that we can use across eras as a clear measure of impact, there’s really nothing beyond assist and turnover numbers – per game, per 36 minutes, and then percentages (how many of the total team assists are you responsible for while on the floor for assists and how many turnovers are you committing per 100 plays for turnovers). Assists are a good measure of direct playmaking, as they’re a relatively reliable look at how many shots a player is setting up for their teammates. There are some flaws in looking solely at assists given that everyone plays with players of different quality and those teammates are ultimately responsible for turning a pass into an assist. But those discrepancies will shrink across a full career as players rotate in and out, and we can get to the point where assists are a pretty good look at true playmaking output. Turnovers are a measure of mistakes. How often are your playmaking efforts ending up in another possession for the other team? An increase in assists is always going to correlate with an increase of turnovers because everyone makes those mistakes and will make more of them if given more opportunities. But who’s slightly better at avoiding them? Those differences matter. I would also say that playmaking tends to be a little more niche than scoring in that you’ll find a smaller percentage of great playmakers than great scorers and good playmakers than good scorers and so on. That’s another reason to lower the impact a little bit. It’s easier to be a great player that doesn’t put up great assist numbers than it is to be a great player that doesn’t really score.
Subcategories:
- Pure Volume (3.25) – Assists per game (1.5), Assists per 36 (1), Turnovers per game (0.5), Turnovers per 36 (0.25)
- Percentages (1) – Assists percentage (0.75), turnover percentage (0.25)
- Assist:Turnover Ratio (0.75)
We’ll start with assists per game, using the same era-adjustment strategy as we used for points per game.
Stockton | 10.5 | 1.113728632 | 11.69 | 1.50 |
Magic | 11.2 | 1.035619773 | 11.60 | 1.49 |
Chris Paul | 9.5 | 1.177686749 | 11.19 | 1.44 |
Oscar | 9.5 | 1.128062772 | 10.72 | 1.38 |
Kidd | 8.7 | 1.215784268 | 10.58 | 1.36 |
Nash | 8.5 | 1.222935206 | 10.39 | 1.33 |
Kevin Johnson | 9.1 | 1.115936616 | 10.16 | 1.30 |
Russ | 8.4 | 1.164486564 | 9.78 | 1.26 |
IT | 9.3 | 1.036140763 | 9.64 | 1.24 |
Tim Hardaway | 8.2 | 1.149360249 | 9.42 | 1.21 |
Rajon Rondo | 7.9 | 1.171498482 | 9.25 | 1.19 |
Bob Cousy | 7.5 | 1.197170456 | 8.98 | 1.15 |
LeBron | 7.4 | 1.183692542 | 8.76 | 1.12 |
Rod Strickland | 7.3 | 1.152227695 | 8.41 | 1.08 |
Andre Miller | 6.5 | 1.21918941 | 7.92 | 1.02 |
Gary Payton | 6.7 | 1.177396645 | 7.89 | 1.01 |
Harden | 6.8 | 1.157725458 | 7.87 | 1.01 |
Tiny Archibald | 7.4 | 1.058594989 | 7.83 | 1.01 |
Mookie Blaylock | 6.7 | 1.143675975 | 7.66 | 0.98 |
AI | 6.2 | 1.225121225 | 7.60 | 0.97 |
Jerry West | 6.7 | 1.128062772 | 7.56 | 0.97 |
Lenny Wilkens | 6.7 | 1.126528055 | 7.55 | 0.97 |
Steph | 6.5 | 1.157725458 | 7.53 | 0.97 |
Dame | 6.6 | 1.133422815 | 7.48 | 0.96 |
Kyle Lowry | 6.3 | 1.171498482 | 7.38 | 0.95 |
Mark Price | 6.7 | 1.089067573 | 7.30 | 0.94 |
Terrell Brandon | 6.1 | 1.158798677 | 7.07 | 0.91 |
Mo Cheeks | 6.7 | 1.03080622 | 6.91 | 0.89 |
Jokic | 6.2 | 1.107610544 | 6.87 | 0.88 |
Tony Parker | 5.6 | 1899-12 | 6.75 | 0.87 |
Nate McMillan | 6.1 | 1.089067573 | 6.64 | 0.85 |
Chauncey | 5.4 | 1.224551716 | 6.61 | 0.85 |
Dave Bing | 6 | 1.101517282 | 6.61 | 0.85 |
Walt Frazier | 6.1 | 1.083296918 | 6.61 | 0.85 |
Kyrie | 5.7 | 1.144237191 | 6.52 | 0.84 |
D Wade | 5.4 | 1899-12 | 6.51 | 0.84 |
Larry | 6.3 | 1.02907201 | 6.48 | 0.83 |
Fat Lever | 6.2 | 1.035514927 | 6.42 | 0.82 |
D Rose | 5.4 | 1.164486564 | 6.29 | 0.81 |
Terry Porter | 5.6 | 1899-12 | 6.24 | 0.80 |
Dray | 5.4 | 1.133422815 | 6.12 | 0.79 |
Clyde Drexler | 5.6 | 1.072277742 | 6.00 | 0.77 |
Doc Rivers | 5.7 | 1.053327465 | 6.00 | 0.77 |
Pippen | 5.2 | 1.139559345 | 5.93 | 0.76 |
MJ | 5.3 | 1.095109969 | 5.80 | 0.74 |
Pistol Pete | 5.4 | 1.07260457 | 5.79 | 0.74 |
Kobe | 4.7 | 1.219383023 | 5.73 | 0.74 |
Rick Barry | 4.9 | 1.144057164 | 5.61 | 0.72 |
Jeff Hornacek | 4.9 | 1.108479605 | 5.43 | 0.70 |
T-Mac | 4.4 | 1.228791958 | 5.41 | 0.69 |
John Havlicek | 4.8 | 1.125413889 | 5.40 | 0.69 |
Alvin Robertson | 5 | 1.057453354 | 5.29 | 0.68 |
Bill Russell | 4.3 | 1.206206064 | 5.19 | 0.67 |
Giannis | 4.6 | 1.127131433 | 5.18 | 0.67 |
CWebb | 4.2 | 1.201276063 | 5.05 | 0.65 |
KD | 4.3 | 1.167282261 | 5.02 | 0.64 |
Wilt | 4.4 | 1.134820709 | 4.99 | 0.64 |
Grant Hill | 4.1 | 1.215784268 | 4.98 | 0.64 |
Elgin Baylor | 4.3 | 1.156119705 | 4.97 | 0.64 |
Iggy | 4.2 | 1.180856473 | 4.96 | 0.64 |
Billy Cunningham | 4.3 | 1.124034773 | 4.83 | 0.62 |
Blake | 4.1 | 1.150822076 | 4.72 | 0.61 |
Jimmy | 4.1 | 1.144237191 | 4.69 | 0.60 |
Joe Johnson | 3.9 | 1.186396541 | 4.63 | 0.59 |
Manu | 3.8 | 1.214803126 | 4.62 | 0.59 |
Jason Terry | 3.8 | 1.211766183 | 4.60 | 0.59 |
Hal Greer | 4 | 1.148621778 | 4.59 | 0.59 |
KG | 3.7 | 1.216488132 | 4.50 | 0.58 |
Dr J | 4.2 | 1.061080224 | 4.46 | 0.57 |
Chuck | 3.9 | 1.095640808 | 4.27 | 0.55 |
Paul Pierce | 3.5 | 1.218972009 | 4.27 | 0.55 |
Earl Monroe | 3.9 | 1.083296918 | 4.22 | 0.54 |
Wes Unseld | 3.9 | 1899-12 | 4.19 | 0.54 |
Ray Allen | 3.4 | 1.222935206 | 4.16 | 0.53 |
Paul George | 3.6 | 1.150822076 | 4.14 | 0.53 |
Dave Cowens | 3.8 | 1.067408156 | 4.06 | 0.52 |
Karl Malone | 3.6 | 1.126083463 | 4.05 | 0.52 |
Ed Macauley | 3.2 | 1.261499755 | 4.04 | 0.52 |
Marc Gasol | 3.4 | 1.171823555 | 3.98 | 0.51 |
Mullin | 3.5 | 1.108542185 | 3.88 | 0.50 |
Pau | 3.2 | 1.205937164 | 3.86 | 0.50 |
Horford | 3.3 | 1.167282261 | 3.85 | 0.49 |
Dolph Schayes | 3.1 | 1.223564794 | 3.79 | 0.49 |
Kareem | 3.6 | 1.047745385 | 3.77 | 0.48 |
Detlef Schrempf | 3.4 | 1.108542185 | 3.77 | 0.48 |
Jerry Lucas | 3.3 | 1.13155393 | 3.73 | 0.48 |
Vince | 3.1 | 1.201866519 | 3.73 | 0.48 |
Alex English | 3.6 | 1.031751 | 3.71 | 0.48 |
Sidney Moncrief | 3.6 | 1.025372229 | 3.69 | 0.47 |
Bill Sharman | 3 | 1.229423135 | 3.69 | 0.47 |
Marques Johnson | 3.6 | 1.020812077 | 3.67 | 0.47 |
Tim Duncan | 3 | 1.220642416 | 3.66 | 0.47 |
Bob Pettit | 3 | 1.20570677 | 3.62 | 0.46 |
Vlade Divac | 3.1 | 1.160032941 | 3.60 | 0.46 |
Bill Walton | 3.4 | 1.042850727 | 3.55 | 0.45 |
George Mikan | 2.8 | 1.262765915 | 3.54 | 0.45 |
Eddie Jones | 2.9 | 1.210090864 | 3.51 | 0.45 |
David Thompson | 3.3 | 1.041359901 | 3.44 | 0.44 |
Reggie | 3 | 1.144847259 | 3.43 | 0.44 |
KAT | 3.1 | 1.107610544 | 3.43 | 0.44 |
Kawhi | 2.9 | 1.151750341 | 3.34 | 0.43 |
AK47 | 2.7 | 1.225789539 | 3.31 | 0.42 |
Dave DeBusschere | 2.9 | 1.133806962 | 3.29 | 0.42 |
Jack Sikma | 3.2 | 1899-12 | 3.29 | 0.42 |
Bob Lanier | 3.1 | 1899-12 | 3.28 | 0.42 |
Melo | 2.7 | 1.183692542 | 3.20 | 0.41 |
James Worthy | 3 | 1.035514927 | 3.11 | 0.40 |
Adrian Dantley | 3 | 1.031751 | 3.10 | 0.40 |
Nate Thurmond | 2.7 | 1.128287994 | 3.05 | 0.39 |
Shaq | 2.5 | 1.200006373 | 3.00 | 0.38 |
Sam Jones | 2.5 | 1.190762037 | 2.98 | 0.38 |
Dirk | 2.4 | 1.20777117 | 2.90 | 0.37 |
David Robinson | 2.5 | 1.149360249 | 2.87 | 0.37 |
Bobby Jones | 2.7 | 1.039967576 | 2.81 | 0.36 |
Paul Arizin | 2.3 | 1.218672742 | 2.80 | 0.36 |
K Love | 2.4 | 1.164486564 | 2.79 | 0.36 |
Hakeem | 2.5 | 1.107643789 | 2.77 | 0.36 |
George Gervin | 2.6 | 1.05303495 | 2.74 | 0.35 |
Walt Bellamy | 2.4 | 1.129367426 | 2.71 | 0.35 |
Dominique | 2.5 | 1.080596562 | 2.70 | 0.35 |
Larry Nance | 2.6 | 1.036140763 | 2.69 | 0.35 |
Klay | 2.3 | 1.144237191 | 2.63 | 0.34 |
AD | 2.3 | 1.133422815 | 2.61 | 0.33 |
Dan Issel | 2.4 | 1.075571923 | 2.58 | 0.33 |
Millsap | 2.2 | 1.171498482 | 2.58 | 0.33 |
Clifford Robinson | 2.2 | 1.170664882 | 2.58 | 0.33 |
Elton Brand | 2.1 | 1899-12 | 2.56 | 0.33 |
Horace Grant | 2.2 | 1899-12 | 2.51 | 0.32 |
Bosh | 2 | 1.224327438 | 2.45 | 0.31 |
Artis Gilmore | 2.3 | 1.05862726 | 2.43 | 0.31 |
Otis Thorpe | 2.2 | 1.10215735 | 2.42 | 0.31 |
Bob McAdoo | 2.3 | 1.04701982 | 2.41 | 0.31 |
Chet Walker | 2.1 | 1.131594274 | 2.38 | 0.30 |
Shawn Marion | 1.9 | 1.221677985 | 2.32 | 0.30 |
Bailey Howell | 2 | 1899-12 | 2.29 | 0.29 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1.9 | 1899-12 | 2.23 | 0.29 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.8 | 1.220887193 | 2.20 | 0.28 |
Ewing | 1.9 | 1.113975776 | 2.12 | 0.27 |
Bill Laimbeer | 2 | 1.035800176 | 2.07 | 0.27 |
Willis Reed | 1.8 | 1.121812127 | 2.02 | 0.26 |
Dennis Rodman | 1.8 | 1.108479605 | 2.00 | 0.26 |
Yao | 1.6 | 1.236311669 | 1.98 | 0.25 |
Elvin Hayes | 1.8 | 1.063977207 | 1.92 | 0.25 |
McHale | 1.7 | 1.032564124 | 1.76 | 0.23 |
Zelmo Beaty | 1.5 | 1.168758943 | 1.75 | 0.22 |
Sam Perkins | 1.5 | 1.10215735 | 1.65 | 0.21 |
Dwight | 1.3 | 1.180856473 | 1.54 | 0.20 |
Robert Parish | 1.4 | 1.055731288 | 1.48 | 0.19 |
Gobert | 1.3 | 1.127131433 | 1.47 | 0.19 |
Buck Williams | 1.3 | 1.067250644 | 1.39 | 0.18 |
Moses | 1.3 | 1.042963799 | 1.36 | 0.17 |
Alonzo Mourning | 1.1 | 1.192744892 | 1.31 | 0.17 |
AC Green | 1.1 | 1.108542185 | 1.22 | 0.16 |
Dikembe | 1 | 1.18943159 | 1.19 | 0.15 |
Mark Eaton | 1 | 1.03166457 | 1.03 | 0.13 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.8 | 1.199196726 | 0.96 | 0.12 |
Tree Rollins | 0.6 | 1.039771877 | 0.62 | 0.08 |
We’ll do the same process for assists per 36, which is again a look at how much a player is producing per minute rather than per game. There’s 1 goat point on the line here.
Player | AP36 | Multiplier | EA AP36 | GOAT POINTS |
Stockton | 11.9 | 1.113728632 | 13.25 | 1.00 |
Nash | 9.8 | 1.222935206 | 11.98 | 0.90 |
Chris Paul | 9.9 | 1.177686749 | 11.66 | 0.88 |
Magic | 11 | 1.035619773 | 11.39 | 0.86 |
Rajon Rondo | 9.6 | 1.171498482 | 11.25 | 0.85 |
Kevin Johnson | 9.6 | 1.115936616 | 10.71 | 0.81 |
Kidd | 8.7 | 1.215784268 | 10.58 | 0.80 |
Russ | 8.8 | 1.164486564 | 10.25 | 0.77 |
Rod Strickland | 8.5 | 1.152227695 | 9.79 | 0.74 |
Tim Hardaway | 8.3 | 1.149360249 | 9.54 | 0.72 |
IT | 9.2 | 1.036140763 | 9.53 | 0.72 |
Bob Cousy | 7.9 | 1.197170456 | 9.46 | 0.71 |
Nate McMillan | 8.6 | 1.089067573 | 9.37 | 0.71 |
Andre Miller | 7.6 | 1.21918941 | 9.27 | 0.70 |
Oscar | 8.1 | 1.128062772 | 9.14 | 0.69 |
Mark Price | 8.1 | 1.089067573 | 8.82 | 0.67 |
Terrell Brandon | 7.4 | 1.158798677 | 8.58 | 0.65 |
Kyle Lowry | 7.1 | 1.171498482 | 8.32 | 0.63 |
Harden | 7.1 | 1.157725458 | 8.22 | 0.62 |
Jokic | 7.4 | 1.107610544 | 8.20 | 0.62 |
LeBron | 6.9 | 1.183692542 | 8.17 | 0.62 |
Terry Porter | 7.3 | 1899-12 | 8.13 | 0.61 |
Gary Payton | 6.9 | 1.177396645 | 8.12 | 0.61 |
Tony Parker | 6.6 | 1899-12 | 7.96 | 0.60 |
Tiny Archibald | 7.5 | 1.058594989 | 7.94 | 0.60 |
Doc Rivers | 7.5 | 1.053327465 | 7.90 | 0.60 |
Mookie Blaylock | 6.9 | 1.143675975 | 7.89 | 0.60 |
Steph | 6.8 | 1.157725458 | 7.87 | 0.59 |
Mo Cheeks | 7.6 | 1.03080622 | 7.83 | 0.59 |
Dray | 6.9 | 1.133422815 | 7.82 | 0.59 |
Lenny Wilkens | 6.8 | 1.126528055 | 7.66 | 0.58 |
Dame | 6.6 | 1.133422815 | 7.48 | 0.56 |
Chauncey | 6.1 | 1.224551716 | 7.47 | 0.56 |
Fat Lever | 7.1 | 1.035514927 | 7.35 | 0.55 |
D Rose | 6.2 | 1.164486564 | 7.22 | 0.54 |
Kyrie | 6.1 | 1.144237191 | 6.98 | 0.53 |
Jerry West | 6.1 | 1.128062772 | 6.88 | 0.52 |
D Wade | 5.7 | 1899-12 | 6.87 | 0.52 |
AI | 5.4 | 1.225121225 | 6.62 | 0.50 |
Manu | 5.4 | 1.214803126 | 6.56 | 0.50 |
Dave Bing | 5.9 | 1.101517282 | 6.50 | 0.49 |
Walt Frazier | 5.9 | 1.083296918 | 6.39 | 0.48 |
Clyde Drexler | 5.9 | 1.072277742 | 6.33 | 0.48 |
Jeff Hornacek | 5.6 | 1.108479605 | 6.21 | 0.47 |
Larry | 6 | 1.02907201 | 6.17 | 0.47 |
Pippen | 5.4 | 1.139559345 | 6.15 | 0.46 |
Alvin Robertson | 5.7 | 1.057453354 | 6.03 | 0.45 |
T-Mac | 4.9 | 1.228791958 | 6.02 | 0.45 |
Giannis | 5.1 | 1.127131433 | 5.75 | 0.43 |
Kobe | 4.7 | 1.219383023 | 5.73 | 0.43 |
Pistol Pete | 5.3 | 1.07260457 | 5.68 | 0.43 |
Jason Terry | 4.6 | 1.211766183 | 5.57 | 0.42 |
Iggy | 4.7 | 1.180856473 | 5.55 | 0.42 |
Rick Barry | 4.7 | 1.144057164 | 5.38 | 0.41 |
MJ | 4.9 | 1.095109969 | 5.37 | 0.40 |
Grant Hill | 4.4 | 1.215784268 | 5.35 | 0.40 |
John Havlicek | 4.7 | 1.125413889 | 5.29 | 0.40 |
Blake | 4.5 | 1.150822076 | 5.18 | 0.39 |
Jimmy | 4.5 | 1.144237191 | 5.15 | 0.39 |
Billy Cunningham | 4.4 | 1.124034773 | 4.95 | 0.37 |
CWebb | 4.1 | 1.201276063 | 4.93 | 0.37 |
KD | 4.2 | 1.167282261 | 4.90 | 0.37 |
Joe Johnson | 4.1 | 1.186396541 | 4.86 | 0.37 |
Earl Monroe | 4.4 | 1.083296918 | 4.77 | 0.36 |
KG | 3.9 | 1.216488132 | 4.74 | 0.36 |
Hal Greer | 4.1 | 1.148621778 | 4.71 | 0.36 |
Detlef Schrempf | 4.1 | 1.108542185 | 4.55 | 0.34 |
Paul Pierce | 3.7 | 1.218972009 | 4.51 | 0.34 |
Elgin Baylor | 3.9 | 1.156119705 | 4.51 | 0.34 |
Bill Walton | 4.3 | 1.042850727 | 4.48 | 0.34 |
Marc Gasol | 3.8 | 1.171823555 | 4.45 | 0.34 |
Vince | 3.7 | 1.201866519 | 4.45 | 0.34 |
Sidney Moncrief | 4.3 | 1.025372229 | 4.41 | 0.33 |
Vlade Divac | 3.8 | 1.160032941 | 4.41 | 0.33 |
Paul George | 3.8 | 1.150822076 | 4.37 | 0.33 |
Dr J | 4.1 | 1.061080224 | 4.35 | 0.33 |
Bill Russell | 3.6 | 1.206206064 | 4.34 | 0.33 |
Mullin | 3.9 | 1.108542185 | 4.32 | 0.33 |
Horford | 3.7 | 1.167282261 | 4.32 | 0.33 |
Chuck | 3.9 | 1.095640808 | 4.27 | 0.32 |
Alex English | 4.1 | 1.031751 | 4.23 | 0.32 |
Bill Sharman | 3.4 | 1.229423135 | 4.18 | 0.32 |
Ray Allen | 3.4 | 1.222935206 | 4.16 | 0.31 |
Pau | 3.4 | 1.205937164 | 4.10 | 0.31 |
Wes Unseld | 3.8 | 1899-12 | 4.08 | 0.31 |
AK47 | 3.3 | 1.225789539 | 4.05 | 0.31 |
Ed Macauley | 3.2 | 1.261499755 | 4.04 | 0.30 |
Wilt | 3.5 | 1.134820709 | 3.97 | 0.30 |
Sam Jones | 3.3 | 1.190762037 | 3.93 | 0.30 |
Tim Duncan | 3.2 | 1.220642416 | 3.91 | 0.29 |
Marques Johnson | 3.8 | 1.020812077 | 3.88 | 0.29 |
Karl Malone | 3.4 | 1.126083463 | 3.83 | 0.29 |
Kawhi | 3.3 | 1.151750341 | 3.80 | 0.29 |
Dolph Schayes | 3.1 | 1.223564794 | 3.79 | 0.29 |
Eddie Jones | 3.1 | 1.210090864 | 3.75 | 0.28 |
David Thompson | 3.6 | 1.041359901 | 3.75 | 0.28 |
Dave Cowens | 3.5 | 1.067408156 | 3.74 | 0.28 |
Kareem | 3.5 | 1.047745385 | 3.67 | 0.28 |
Bobby Jones | 3.5 | 1.039967576 | 3.64 | 0.27 |
Bob Lanier | 3.4 | 1899-12 | 3.60 | 0.27 |
Reggie | 3.1 | 1.144847259 | 3.55 | 0.27 |
KAT | 3.2 | 1.107610544 | 3.54 | 0.27 |
Jerry Lucas | 3.1 | 1.13155393 | 3.51 | 0.26 |
Jack Sikma | 3.4 | 1899-12 | 3.49 | 0.26 |
James Worthy | 3.3 | 1.035514927 | 3.42 | 0.26 |
George Mikan | 2.7 | 1.262765915 | 3.41 | 0.26 |
Bob Pettit | 2.8 | 1.20570677 | 3.38 | 0.25 |
Melo | 2.8 | 1.183692542 | 3.31 | 0.25 |
Dave DeBusschere | 2.9 | 1.133806962 | 3.29 | 0.25 |
Millsap | 2.8 | 1.171498482 | 3.28 | 0.25 |
K Love | 2.8 | 1.164486564 | 3.26 | 0.25 |
Dirk | 2.6 | 1.20777117 | 3.14 | 0.24 |
Shaq | 2.6 | 1.200006373 | 3.12 | 0.24 |
Adrian Dantley | 3 | 1.031751 | 3.10 | 0.23 |
Clifford Robinson | 2.6 | 1.170664882 | 3.04 | 0.23 |
David Robinson | 2.6 | 1.149360249 | 2.99 | 0.23 |
George Gervin | 2.8 | 1.05303495 | 2.95 | 0.22 |
Nate Thurmond | 2.6 | 1.128287994 | 2.93 | 0.22 |
Larry Nance | 2.8 | 1.036140763 | 2.90 | 0.22 |
Klay | 2.5 | 1.144237191 | 2.86 | 0.22 |
Elton Brand | 2.3 | 1899-12 | 2.80 | 0.21 |
Hakeem | 2.5 | 1.107643789 | 2.77 | 0.21 |
Otis Thorpe | 2.5 | 1.10215735 | 2.76 | 0.21 |
Horace Grant | 2.4 | 1899-12 | 2.73 | 0.21 |
AD | 2.4 | 1.133422815 | 2.72 | 0.21 |
Walt Bellamy | 2.4 | 1.129367426 | 2.71 | 0.20 |
Dominique | 2.5 | 1.080596562 | 2.70 | 0.20 |
Dan Issel | 2.5 | 1.075571923 | 2.69 | 0.20 |
Paul Arizin | 2.2 | 1.218672742 | 2.68 | 0.20 |
Bob McAdoo | 2.5 | 1.04701982 | 2.62 | 0.20 |
Chet Walker | 2.3 | 1.131594274 | 2.60 | 0.20 |
Bailey Howell | 2.2 | 1899-12 | 2.52 | 0.19 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 2.1 | 1899-12 | 2.46 | 0.19 |
Bosh | 2 | 1.224327438 | 2.45 | 0.18 |
Shawn Marion | 2 | 1.221677985 | 2.44 | 0.18 |
Sheed Wallace | 2 | 1.220887193 | 2.44 | 0.18 |
Artis Gilmore | 2.3 | 1.05862726 | 2.43 | 0.18 |
Bill Laimbeer | 2.3 | 1.035800176 | 2.38 | 0.18 |
Ewing | 2 | 1.113975776 | 2.23 | 0.17 |
Yao | 1.8 | 1.236311669 | 2.23 | 0.17 |
Dennis Rodman | 2 | 1.108479605 | 2.22 | 0.17 |
Willis Reed | 1.9 | 1.121812127 | 2.13 | 0.16 |
Sam Perkins | 1.9 | 1.10215735 | 2.09 | 0.16 |
McHale | 2 | 1.032564124 | 2.07 | 0.16 |
Zelmo Beaty | 1.7 | 1.168758943 | 1.99 | 0.15 |
Elvin Hayes | 1.7 | 1.063977207 | 1.81 | 0.14 |
Gobert | 1.6 | 1.127131433 | 1.80 | 0.14 |
Robert Parish | 1.7 | 1.055731288 | 1.79 | 0.14 |
Dwight | 1.5 | 1.180856473 | 1.77 | 0.13 |
AC Green | 1.4 | 1.108542185 | 1.55 | 0.12 |
Alonzo Mourning | 1.3 | 1.192744892 | 1.55 | 0.12 |
Buck Williams | 1.4 | 1.067250644 | 1.49 | 0.11 |
Moses | 1.4 | 1.042963799 | 1.46 | 0.11 |
Dikembe | 1.2 | 1.18943159 | 1.43 | 0.11 |
Tyson Chandler | 1.1 | 1.199196726 | 1.32 | 0.10 |
Mark Eaton | 1.2 | 1.03166457 | 1.24 | 0.09 |
Tree Rollins | 1 | 1.039771877 | 1.04 | 0.08 |
Next we’ll do the same thing with turnovers per game and per 36. And this is where we run into another issue with stats not being recorded; individual turnover numbers don’t exist before 1978 for the NBA. When that happens, every player that played before that given year has to end up in the same spot since there’s no way to separate them from each other. That leads to two questions. The first – is there a cutoff where Player A played enough of their career post 1978 to count their turnover numbers despite them being incomplete? I’ll go with over half of a career. So anyone that played more than half of their seasons post 1978 will run with that number (Rick Barry and Bob Lanier and their seven of fourteen seasons played with turnover numbers will go to the average and be our example cutoffs). This only leads to very small changes for Kareem and Bob McAdoo and no one else, but we’ll do it anyway. To get the multiplier for those two, I just used the league average turnover numbers from 1978 to the end of their respective careers. The second question is where exactly that spot the others all end up in should be. Theoretically, we could say no stat no points and put them all at the very bottom, but punishing a player in that way for simply being born too early doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. The other relatively simple option (other than giving them all max points which is equally nonsensical) is to just give them the average number like we did with three-point shooting. So you take everyone that played post-1974, take the average of all of their turnover numbers, and then give that average to everyone that doesn’t have a stat. It’s not perfect, but it’s the fairest way to do it. For everyone we do have turnover numbers for, we’ll adjust for era like we’ve been doing. I touched on this above, but I’ll mention it again here. Turnovers themselves are not a great measure of playmaking ability given that the center or sharpshooter who rarely attempts to set up others is obviously going to end up with less turnovers than the guy responsible for creating most of his team’s offense. Role context is important with turnovers (so the comparison between like players is more important than the comparison between a Russ and a Tree Rollins), and the assist:turnover ratio that we will do our best to create in a bit is helpful in creating that context by matching assist volume with turnover volume. We’re looking at 0.5 goat points here, and there’s another layer there with the whole more turnovers are bad concept. So instead of just taking the top score and attributing points based on the percentage of that figure everyone else reaches, we’re going to divide everyone’s turnover number by the low score, which creates a number greater than 1. We then do 0.5 divided by that number to get the goat points.
Player | TOPG | Multiplier | EA TOPG | GOAT POINTS |
Tree Rollins | 0.9 | 1.198601075 | 1.08 | 0.50 |
AC Green | 1.1 | 1.297487642 | 1.43 | 0.38 |
Horace Grant | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.46 | 0.37 |
Sam Perkins | 1.2 | 1.289518438 | 1.55 | 0.35 |
Bill Laimbeer | 1.5 | 1.220055945 | 1.83 | 0.30 |
Mark Eaton | 1.5 | 1.226667502 | 1.84 | 0.29 |
Tyson Chandler | 1.4 | 1.440344226 | 2.02 | 0.27 |
Dennis Rodman | 1.6 | 1.300328305 | 2.08 | 0.26 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.5 | 1.404132516 | 2.11 | 0.26 |
Shawn Marion | 1.5 | 1.425048638 | 2.14 | 0.25 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1.5 | 1899-12 | 2.18 | 0.25 |
Horford | 1.5 | 1.460499988 | 2.19 | 0.25 |
Eddie Jones | 1.6 | 1.380585561 | 2.21 | 0.24 |
Bobby Jones | 2 | 1.105598009 | 2.21 | 0.24 |
Reggie | 1.7 | 1.334407715 | 2.27 | 0.24 |
Dirk | 1.6 | 1.429530325 | 2.29 | 0.24 |
McHale | 1.9 | 1.213906403 | 2.31 | 0.23 |
Kawhi | 1.6 | 1.452002767 | 2.32 | 0.23 |
Jimmy | 1.6 | 1.457024914 | 2.33 | 0.23 |
Larry Nance | 1.9 | 1.228344905 | 2.33 | 0.23 |
Jeff Hornacek | 1.8 | 1.300328305 | 2.34 | 0.23 |
Gobert | 1.6 | 1.464217665 | 2.34 | 0.23 |
Sidney Moncrief | 2 | 1.186650242 | 2.37 | 0.23 |
Doc Rivers | 1.9 | 1.256074545 | 2.39 | 0.23 |
Vince | 1.7 | 1.429755435 | 2.43 | 0.22 |
Jason Terry | 1.7 | 1.430814862 | 2.43 | 0.22 |
Dan Issel | 2.2 | 1.105816478 | 2.43 | 0.22 |
Clifford Robinson | 1.8 | 1.35480308 | 2.44 | 0.22 |
Nate McMillan | 1.9 | 1.291931972 | 2.45 | 0.22 |
Fat Lever | 2 | 1.232778544 | 2.47 | 0.22 |
James Worthy | 2 | 1.232778544 | 2.47 | 0.22 |
Millsap | 1.7 | 1.455311454 | 2.47 | 0.22 |
Dikembe | 1.8 | 1.375301198 | 2.48 | 0.22 |
Klay | 1.7 | 1.457024914 | 2.48 | 0.22 |
Mo Cheeks | 2.1 | 1.195454492 | 2.51 | 0.22 |
Robert Parish | 2.1 | 1.201229741 | 2.52 | 0.21 |
Detlef Schrempf | 2 | 1.297487642 | 2.59 | 0.21 |
Iggy | 1.8 | 1.453550582 | 2.62 | 0.21 |
Buck Williams | 2.1 | 1.250581871 | 2.63 | 0.21 |
Jack Sikma | 2.3 | 1899-12 | 2.68 | 0.20 |
Terrell Brandon | 2 | 1.341407228 | 2.68 | 0.20 |
Marques Johnson | 2.4 | 1.127839705 | 2.71 | 0.20 |
Elton Brand | 1.9 | 1899-12 | 2.71 | 0.20 |
AK47 | 1.9 | 1.433726861 | 2.72 | 0.20 |
Terry Porter | 2.1 | 1899-12 | 2.74 | 0.20 |
Joe Johnson | 1.9 | 1.44671586 | 2.75 | 0.20 |
K Love | 1.9 | 1.459451609 | 2.77 | 0.19 |
Chauncey | 2 | 1.415161551 | 2.83 | 0.19 |
Otis Thorpe | 2.2 | 1.289518438 | 2.84 | 0.19 |
Bosh | 2 | 1.437397276 | 2.87 | 0.19 |
Manu | 2 | 1.438899842 | 2.88 | 0.19 |
Alex English | 2.5 | 1.155656171 | 2.89 | 0.19 |
Bob McAdoo | 2.6 | 1.117207515 | 2.90 | 0.19 |
Marc Gasol | 2 | 1.455775088 | 2.91 | 0.19 |
AD | 2 | 1.460261651 | 2.92 | 0.18 |
David Thompson | 2.7 | 1.089576758 | 2.94 | 0.18 |
Ray Allen | 2.1 | 1.410143729 | 2.96 | 0.18 |
Vlade Divac | 2.2 | 1.347782972 | 2.97 | 0.18 |
Mullin | 2.3 | 1.297487642 | 2.98 | 0.18 |
Bill Walton | 2.7 | 1.106855068 | 2.99 | 0.18 |
Mookie Blaylock | 2.3 | 1.334415768 | 3.07 | 0.18 |
Kareem | 2.7 | 1.14443403 | 3.09 | 0.17 |
KG | 2.2 | 1.408949129 | 3.10 | 0.17 |
T-Mac | 2.2 | 1.41389542 | 3.11 | 0.17 |
Gary Payton | 2.3 | 1.358501764 | 3.12 | 0.17 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Elvin Hayes | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Walt Frazier | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Bob Lanier | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Wes Unseld | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Dave Cowens | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Pistol Pete | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Earl Monroe | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Tiny Archibald | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 3.15 | 0.17 | |
Dominique | 2.5 | 1.261425159 | 3.15 | 0.17 |
Pau | 2.2 | 1.440669863 | 3.17 | 0.17 |
Dray | 2.2 | 1.460261651 | 3.21 | 0.17 |
David Robinson | 2.4 | 1.338812724 | 3.21 | 0.17 |
Mark Price | 2.5 | 1.291931972 | 3.23 | 0.17 |
Tony Parker | 2.3 | 1899-12 | 3.31 | 0.16 |
George Gervin | 3 | 1.108442323 | 3.33 | 0.16 |
Adrian Dantley | 2.9 | 1.155656171 | 3.35 | 0.16 |
Grant Hill | 2.4 | 1.399082179 | 3.36 | 0.16 |
Tim Duncan | 2.4 | 1.418243961 | 3.40 | 0.16 |
Alvin Robertson | 2.7 | 1.26391316 | 3.41 | 0.16 |
Clyde Drexler | 2.7 | 1.266383022 | 3.42 | 0.16 |
Andre Miller | 2.4 | 1.426189567 | 3.42 | 0.16 |
Melo | 2.4 | 1.450030376 | 3.48 | 0.16 |
Rod Strickland | 2.6 | 1.339637052 | 3.48 | 0.16 |
MJ | 2.7 | 1.290946005 | 3.49 | 0.15 |
Artis Gilmore | 3.1 | 1.125299297 | 3.49 | 0.15 |
Chris Paul | 2.4 | 1.454672219 | 3.49 | 0.15 |
Kyle Lowry | 2.4 | 1.455311454 | 3.49 | 0.15 |
Blake | 2.4 | 1.456818292 | 3.50 | 0.15 |
Alonzo Mourning | 2.6 | 1.371023372 | 3.56 | 0.15 |
Stockton | 2.8 | 1.302751018 | 3.65 | 0.15 |
D Rose | 2.5 | 1.459451609 | 3.65 | 0.15 |
Moses | 3.1 | 1.188659373 | 3.68 | 0.15 |
Paul Pierce | 2.6 | 1.425811266 | 3.71 | 0.15 |
Larry | 3.1 | 1.197933557 | 3.71 | 0.15 |
Pippen | 2.8 | 1.328520947 | 3.72 | 0.15 |
Shaq | 2.7 | 1.386390654 | 3.74 | 0.14 |
Kyrie | 2.6 | 1.457024914 | 3.79 | 0.14 |
Dr J | 3.4 | 1.117786192 | 3.80 | 0.14 |
CWebb | 2.8 | 1.37521319 | 3.85 | 0.14 |
Yao | 2.7 | 1.435475138 | 3.88 | 0.14 |
Tim Hardaway | 2.9 | 1.338812724 | 3.88 | 0.14 |
Hakeem | 3 | 1.297572011 | 3.89 | 0.14 |
Ewing | 3 | 1.305546178 | 3.92 | 0.14 |
Dwight | 2.7 | 1.453550582 | 3.92 | 0.14 |
Rajon Rondo | 2.7 | 1.455311454 | 3.93 | 0.14 |
Paul George | 2.7 | 1.456818292 | 3.93 | 0.14 |
KAT | 2.7 | 1.472693857 | 3.98 | 0.14 |
Chuck | 3.1 | 1.283446673 | 3.98 | 0.14 |
Kevin Johnson | 3.1 | 1.306235912 | 4.05 | 0.13 |
Kidd | 2.9 | 1.399082179 | 4.06 | 0.13 |
Karl Malone | 3.1 | 1.314574992 | 4.08 | 0.13 |
Dame | 2.8 | 1.460261651 | 4.09 | 0.13 |
Nash | 2.9 | 1.410143729 | 4.09 | 0.13 |
Jokic | 2.8 | 1.472693857 | 4.12 | 0.13 |
Kobe | 3 | 1.413573801 | 4.24 | 0.13 |
Giannis | 2.9 | 1.464217665 | 4.25 | 0.13 |
Steph | 3.1 | 1.457431403 | 4.52 | 0.12 |
D Wade | 3.2 | 1899-12 | 4.62 | 0.12 |
Magic | 3.9 | 1.196635277 | 4.67 | 0.12 |
IT | 3.8 | 1.228344905 | 4.67 | 0.12 |
KD | 3.2 | 1.460499988 | 4.67 | 0.12 |
AI | 3.6 | 1.403862077 | 5.05 | 0.11 |
LeBron | 3.5 | 1.450030376 | 5.08 | 0.11 |
Harden | 3.8 | 1.457431403 | 5.54 | 0.10 |
Russ | 4.1 | 1.459451609 | 5.98 | 0.09 |
We can then do the same with turnovers per 36.
Player | TOP36 | Multiplier | EA TOP36 | GOAT POINTS |
Horace Grant | 1.2 | 1899-12 | 1.59 | 0.25 |
AC Green | 1.4 | 1.297487642 | 1.82 | 0.22 |
Tree Rollins | 1.6 | 1.198601075 | 1.92 | 0.21 |
Sam Perkins | 1.6 | 1.289518438 | 2.06 | 0.19 |
Bill Laimbeer | 1.7 | 1.220055945 | 2.07 | 0.19 |
Mark Eaton | 1.8 | 1.226667502 | 2.21 | 0.18 |
Shawn Marion | 1.6 | 1.425048638 | 2.28 | 0.17 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1.6 | 1899-12 | 2.33 | 0.17 |
Eddie Jones | 1.7 | 1.380585561 | 2.35 | 0.17 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.7 | 1.404132516 | 2.39 | 0.17 |
Reggie | 1.8 | 1.334407715 | 2.40 | 0.17 |
Dirk | 1.7 | 1.429530325 | 2.43 | 0.16 |
Larry Nance | 2 | 1.228344905 | 2.46 | 0.16 |
Dennis Rodman | 1.9 | 1.300328305 | 2.47 | 0.16 |
Horford | 1.7 | 1.460499988 | 2.48 | 0.16 |
Dan Issel | 2.3 | 1.105816478 | 2.54 | 0.16 |
Jimmy | 1.8 | 1.457024914 | 2.62 | 0.15 |
Fat Lever | 2.2 | 1.232778544 | 2.71 | 0.15 |
James Worthy | 2.2 | 1.232778544 | 2.71 | 0.15 |
Jeff Hornacek | 2.1 | 1.300328305 | 2.73 | 0.15 |
Tyson Chandler | 1.9 | 1.440344226 | 2.74 | 0.15 |
Mo Cheeks | 2.3 | 1.195454492 | 2.75 | 0.14 |
Kawhi | 1.9 | 1.452002767 | 2.76 | 0.14 |
Klay | 1.9 | 1.457024914 | 2.77 | 0.14 |
McHale | 2.3 | 1.213906403 | 2.79 | 0.14 |
Marques Johnson | 2.5 | 1.127839705 | 2.82 | 0.14 |
Clifford Robinson | 2.1 | 1.35480308 | 2.85 | 0.14 |
Sidney Moncrief | 2.4 | 1.186650242 | 2.85 | 0.14 |
Vince | 2 | 1.429755435 | 2.86 | 0.14 |
Bobby Jones | 2.6 | 1.105598009 | 2.87 | 0.14 |
Bosh | 2 | 1.437397276 | 2.87 | 0.14 |
Dikembe | 2.1 | 1.375301198 | 2.89 | 0.14 |
Joe Johnson | 2 | 1.44671586 | 2.89 | 0.14 |
Iggy | 2 | 1.453550582 | 2.91 | 0.14 |
Jack Sikma | 2.5 | 1899-12 | 2.92 | 0.14 |
AD | 2 | 1.460261651 | 2.92 | 0.14 |
Gobert | 2 | 1.464217665 | 2.93 | 0.14 |
Ray Allen | 2.1 | 1.410143729 | 2.96 | 0.13 |
Elton Brand | 2.1 | 1899-12 | 2.99 | 0.13 |
Buck Williams | 2.4 | 1.250581871 | 3.00 | 0.13 |
Jason Terry | 2.1 | 1.430814862 | 3.00 | 0.13 |
Detlef Schrempf | 2.4 | 1.297487642 | 3.11 | 0.13 |
Alex English | 2.7 | 1.155656171 | 3.12 | 0.13 |
Robert Parish | 2.6 | 1.201229741 | 3.12 | 0.13 |
Gary Payton | 2.3 | 1.358501764 | 3.12 | 0.13 |
Doc Rivers | 2.5 | 1.256074545 | 3.14 | 0.13 |
Dominique | 2.5 | 1.261425159 | 3.15 | 0.13 |
Millsap | 2.2 | 1.455311454 | 3.20 | 0.12 |
Mookie Blaylock | 2.4 | 1.334415768 | 3.20 | 0.12 |
Marc Gasol | 2.2 | 1.455775088 | 3.20 | 0.12 |
K Love | 2.2 | 1.459451609 | 3.21 | 0.12 |
Terrell Brandon | 2.4 | 1.341407228 | 3.22 | 0.12 |
Otis Thorpe | 2.5 | 1.289518438 | 3.22 | 0.12 |
KG | 2.3 | 1.408949129 | 3.24 | 0.12 |
Chauncey | 2.3 | 1.415161551 | 3.25 | 0.12 |
David Thompson | 3 | 1.089576758 | 3.27 | 0.12 |
AK47 | 2.3 | 1.433726861 | 3.30 | 0.12 |
Pau | 2.3 | 1.440669863 | 3.31 | 0.12 |
Kareem | 2.9 | 1.14443403 | 3.32 | 0.12 |
David Robinson | 2.5 | 1.338812724 | 3.35 | 0.12 |
Adrian Dantley | 2.9 | 1.155656171 | 3.35 | 0.12 |
MJ | 2.6 | 1.290946005 | 3.36 | 0.12 |
Nate McMillan | 2.6 | 1.291931972 | 3.36 | 0.12 |
Mullin | 2.6 | 1.297487642 | 3.37 | 0.12 |
T-Mac | 2.4 | 1.41389542 | 3.39 | 0.12 |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Bob Lanier | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Dave Cowens | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Earl Monroe | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Elvin Hayes | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Pistol Pete | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Tiny Archibald | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Walt Frazier | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Wes Unseld | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 3.45 | 0.12 | |
Larry | 2.9 | 1.197933557 | 3.47 | 0.11 |
Grant Hill | 2.5 | 1.399082179 | 3.50 | 0.11 |
Vlade Divac | 2.6 | 1.347782972 | 3.50 | 0.11 |
Terry Porter | 2.7 | 1899-12 | 3.52 | 0.11 |
George Gervin | 3.2 | 1.108442323 | 3.55 | 0.11 |
Artis Gilmore | 3.2 | 1.125299297 | 3.60 | 0.11 |
Melo | 2.5 | 1.450030376 | 3.63 | 0.11 |
Chris Paul | 2.5 | 1.454672219 | 3.64 | 0.11 |
Clyde Drexler | 2.9 | 1.266383022 | 3.67 | 0.11 |
Tim Duncan | 2.6 | 1.418243961 | 3.69 | 0.11 |
CWebb | 2.7 | 1.37521319 | 3.71 | 0.11 |
Blake | 2.6 | 1.456818292 | 3.79 | 0.10 |
Bob McAdoo | 3.4 | 1.117207515 | 3.80 | 0.10 |
Dr J | 3.4 | 1.117786192 | 3.80 | 0.10 |
Pippen | 2.9 | 1.328520947 | 3.85 | 0.10 |
Mark Price | 3 | 1.291931972 | 3.88 | 0.10 |
Shaq | 2.8 | 1.386390654 | 3.88 | 0.10 |
Tim Hardaway | 2.9 | 1.338812724 | 3.88 | 0.10 |
Tony Parker | 2.7 | 1899-12 | 3.89 | 0.10 |
Hakeem | 3 | 1.297572011 | 3.89 | 0.10 |
Alvin Robertson | 3.1 | 1.26391316 | 3.92 | 0.10 |
Moses | 3.3 | 1.188659373 | 3.92 | 0.10 |
Kyle Lowry | 2.7 | 1.455311454 | 3.93 | 0.10 |
Karl Malone | 3 | 1.314574992 | 3.94 | 0.10 |
Chuck | 3.1 | 1.283446673 | 3.98 | 0.10 |
Paul Pierce | 2.8 | 1.425811266 | 3.99 | 0.10 |
Andre Miller | 2.8 | 1.426189567 | 3.99 | 0.10 |
Manu | 2.8 | 1.438899842 | 4.03 | 0.10 |
Ewing | 3.1 | 1.305546178 | 4.05 | 0.10 |
Kidd | 2.9 | 1.399082179 | 4.06 | 0.10 |
Kyrie | 2.8 | 1.457024914 | 4.08 | 0.10 |
Dame | 2.8 | 1.460261651 | 4.09 | 0.10 |
Dray | 2.8 | 1.460261651 | 4.09 | 0.10 |
KAT | 2.8 | 1.472693857 | 4.12 | 0.10 |
Rod Strickland | 3.1 | 1.339637052 | 4.15 | 0.10 |
Stockton | 3.2 | 1.302751018 | 4.17 | 0.10 |
Kevin Johnson | 3.2 | 1.306235912 | 4.18 | 0.10 |
Bill Walton | 3.8 | 1.106855068 | 4.21 | 0.09 |
Paul George | 2.9 | 1.456818292 | 4.22 | 0.09 |
D Rose | 2.9 | 1.459451609 | 4.23 | 0.09 |
Kobe | 3 | 1.413573801 | 4.24 | 0.09 |
Alonzo Mourning | 3.1 | 1.371023372 | 4.25 | 0.09 |
Yao | 3 | 1.435475138 | 4.31 | 0.09 |
AI | 3.1 | 1.403862077 | 4.35 | 0.09 |
Dwight | 3 | 1.453550582 | 4.36 | 0.09 |
KD | 3.1 | 1.460499988 | 4.53 | 0.09 |
IT | 3.7 | 1.228344905 | 4.54 | 0.09 |
Magic | 3.8 | 1.196635277 | 4.55 | 0.09 |
Nash | 3.3 | 1.410143729 | 4.65 | 0.09 |
Giannis | 3.2 | 1.464217665 | 4.69 | 0.08 |
D Wade | 3.3 | 1899-12 | 4.76 | 0.08 |
LeBron | 3.3 | 1.450030376 | 4.79 | 0.08 |
Rajon Rondo | 3.3 | 1.455311454 | 4.80 | 0.08 |
Steph | 3.3 | 1.457431403 | 4.81 | 0.08 |
Jokic | 3.3 | 1.472693857 | 4.86 | 0.08 |
Harden | 3.9 | 1.457431403 | 5.68 | 0.07 |
Russ | 4.3 | 1.459451609 | 6.28 | 0.06 |
Assist percentage is up next. This is a pretty simple stat – you just take the number of assists a player has and divide it by the total number of baskets made by their team while they’re on the floor. So how much of the final offensive product a player is creating by assist. Since this is a purely an individual stat (there is no total team assist percentage like there are total team points or total team assists given that this would always by 100), there’s no great way to adjust for era. It doesn’t really make sense to adjust for era anyway since the proportion of a team’s made field goals that a player is responsible for via assist is always going to be dependent on the player rather than the assist. It doesn’t matter if a team is scoring less or more; it’s a percentage stat. And while we could theoretically adjust for assist numbers and say that some eras featured more isolation buckets than others, simply using assist numbers to account for that difference would probably hurt more than help with all the confounding variables at play. So we’ll just use straight assist percentage. There are 0.75 goat points up for grabs here. Now there are unfortunately six guys who played either zero or one seasons from 1965 and on, which is when we have recorded assist percentages. But since we have some reference for assist numbers from assists per game and assists per 36, I won’t just stick those six in the middle. Instead, we will take the average of their rank (1-158) in assists per game and per 36 and put them in that rank here. It’s not perfect either, but it’s a more accurate measure than just sticking them in the middle.
Player | AST% | GOAT POINTS |
Stockton | 50.2 | 0.75 |
Chris Paul | 45.3 | 0.68 |
Russ | 41.9 | 0.63 |
Nash | 41.5 | 0.62 |
Magic | 40.9 | 0.61 |
Rajon Rondo | 40.6 | 0.61 |
Kevin Johnson | 38.8 | 0.58 |
Kidd | 38.5 | 0.58 |
Tim Hardaway | 37.9 | 0.57 |
IT | 37.4 | 0.56 |
Rod Strickland | 37.3 | 0.56 |
LeBron | 36.4 | 0.54 |
Mark Price | 36.1 | 0.54 |
Terrell Brandon | 35.5 | 0.53 |
Andre Miller | 34.7 | 0.52 |
Jokic | 33.9 | 0.51 |
Harden | 33.4 | 0.50 |
Tony Parker | 32.2 | 0.48 |
Bob Cousy | 32 | 0.48 |
Gary Payton | 31.9 | 0.48 |
Steph | 31.4 | 0.47 |
Mookie Blaylock | 30.9 | 0.46 |
Kyle Lowry | 30.8 | 0.46 |
Nate McMillan | 30.8 | 0.46 |
Dame | 30.6 | 0.46 |
D Rose | 30.5 | 0.46 |
D Wade | 30.4 | 0.45 |
Kyrie | 30.4 | 0.45 |
Oscar | 30.3 | 0.45 |
Tiny Archibald | 30.1 | 0.45 |
Mo Cheeks | 29.2 | 0.44 |
Doc Rivers | 29.2 | 0.44 |
Terry Porter | 29 | 0.43 |
AI | 28.8 | 0.43 |
Lenny Wilkens | 28.3 | 0.42 |
Chauncey | 28.1 | 0.42 |
Jerry West | 27.1 | 0.40 |
Fat Lever | 26.4 | 0.39 |
T-Mac | 26.3 | 0.39 |
Dray | 25.3 | 0.38 |
Clyde Drexler | 25.2 | 0.38 |
MJ | 24.9 | 0.37 |
Larry | 24.7 | 0.37 |
Manu | 24.5 | 0.37 |
Giannis | 24.3 | 0.36 |
Dave Bing | 24.3 | 0.36 |
Kobe | 24.2 | 0.36 |
Jeff Hornacek | 23.4 | 0.35 |
Pippen | 23.1 | 0.35 |
Alvin Robertson | 23.1 | 0.35 |
Pistol Pete | 23.1 | 0.35 |
Walt Frazier | 23 | 0.34 |
Jason Terry | 22.1 | 0.33 |
Grant Hill | 21.9 | 0.33 |
Blake | 21.8 | 0.33 |
KD | 20.4 | 0.30 |
CWebb | 20.2 | 0.30 |
Jimmy | 20.1 | 0.30 |
Joe Johnson | 19.6 | 0.29 |
John Havlicek | 19.5 | 0.29 |
Iggy | 19.5 | 0.29 |
KG | 19.3 | 0.29 |
Vince | 19.3 | 0.29 |
Rick Barry | 19.1 | 0.29 |
Paul Pierce | 18.7 | 0.28 |
Paul George | 18 | 0.27 |
Dr J | 17.7 | 0.26 |
Karl Malone | 17.6 | 0.26 |
Billy Cunningham | 17.6 | 0.26 |
Chuck | 17.5 | 0.26 |
Earl Monroe | 17.5 | 0.26 |
Detlef Schrempf | 17.2 | 0.26 |
Alex English | 17.1 | 0.26 |
Marc Gasol | 17.1 | 0.26 |
Bill Walton | 17.1 | 0.26 |
Sidney Moncrief | 17 | 0.25 |
Ed Macauley | 16.9 | 0.25 |
Pau | 16.7 | 0.25 |
Horford | 16.6 | 0.25 |
Bill Sharman | 16.5 | 0.25 |
Ray Allen | 16.5 | 0.25 |
Mullin | 16.5 | 0.25 |
Tim Duncan | 16.4 | 0.25 |
Dolph Schayes | 16.2 | 0.24 |
Hal Greer | 16.2 | 0.24 |
Elgin Baylor | 16.1 | 0.24 |
Vlade Divac | 16 | 0.24 |
Marques Johnson | 15.9 | 0.24 |
Wilt | 15.8 | 0.24 |
KAT | 15.5 | 0.23 |
Kawhi | 15.4 | 0.23 |
David Thompson | 15 | 0.22 |
Bill Russell | 14.9 | 0.22 |
Eddie Jones | 14.7 | 0.22 |
AK47 | 14.7 | 0.22 |
Kareem | 14.6 | 0.22 |
Bob Pettit | 14.4 | 0.22 |
George Mikan | 14.4 | 0.22 |
Reggie | 14.4 | 0.22 |
Bob Lanier | 14.4 | 0.22 |
Melo | 14.4 | 0.22 |
James Worthy | 14 | 0.21 |
Sam Jones | 14 | 0.21 |
Shaq | 13.9 | 0.21 |
Jack Sikma | 13.7 | 0.20 |
Dave Cowens | 13.7 | 0.20 |
Wes Unseld | 13.5 | 0.20 |
Bobby Jones | 13.2 | 0.20 |
Adrian Dantley | 13 | 0.19 |
Dirk | 12.6 | 0.19 |
Millsap | 12.6 | 0.19 |
K Love | 12.6 | 0.19 |
David Robinson | 12.4 | 0.19 |
George Gervin | 12.2 | 0.18 |
Hakeem | 12.1 | 0.18 |
Dominique | 12.1 | 0.18 |
Clifford Robinson | 12.1 | 0.18 |
Jerry Lucas | 12 | 0.18 |
AD | 11.9 | 0.18 |
Larry Nance | 11.8 | 0.18 |
Paul Arizin | 11.7 | 0.17 |
Elton Brand | 11.7 | 0.17 |
Klay | 11.3 | 0.17 |
Dave DeBusschere | 11 | 0.16 |
Otis Thorpe | 10.6 | 0.16 |
Bob McAdoo | 10.5 | 0.16 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 10.2 | 0.15 |
Dan Issel | 10.1 | 0.15 |
Nate Thurmond | 10 | 0.15 |
Horace Grant | 9.9 | 0.15 |
Bosh | 9.9 | 0.15 |
Ewing | 9.8 | 0.15 |
Chet Walker | 9.7 | 0.14 |
Sheed Wallace | 9.6 | 0.14 |
Yao | 9.6 | 0.14 |
Artis Gilmore | 9.4 | 0.14 |
Walt Bellamy | 9.4 | 0.14 |
Shawn Marion | 9.1 | 0.14 |
Bill Laimbeer | 8.9 | 0.13 |
Bailey Howell | 8.2 | 0.12 |
McHale | 8.1 | 0.12 |
Sam Perkins | 8 | 0.12 |
Dennis Rodman | 7.6 | 0.11 |
Dwight | 7.3 | 0.11 |
Willis Reed | 7.3 | 0.11 |
Elvin Hayes | 7 | 0.10 |
Robert Parish | 6.9 | 0.10 |
Gobert | 6.8 | 0.10 |
Zelmo Beaty | 6.7 | 0.10 |
Alonzo Mourning | 6.7 | 0.10 |
Moses | 5.9 | 0.09 |
Buck Williams | 5.5 | 0.08 |
AC Green | 5.4 | 0.08 |
Dikembe | 5.3 | 0.08 |
Tyson Chandler | 4.7 | 0.07 |
Mark Eaton | 4.3 | 0.06 |
Tree Rollins | 3.8 | 0.06 |
We have turnover percentage next for 0.25 goat points. We’re going to have to do the average thing again since we clearly can’t have a turnover percentage prior to 1978 if we don’t have the turnovers recorded at all. Turnover percentage is “an estimate of turnovers committed per 100 plays”. So here we’re taking a look at an important question – when this players looks to make a play, how often are they coughing up the ball? I am going to adjust for era here since turnover rate should be a little simpler to adjust for than assist rate. There aren’t many factors to consider here beyond the simple one of how often are teams turning it over, so we just adjust by discrepancies in turnovers per game across the years.
Player | TO% | Multiplier | EA TO% | GOAT POINTS |
Dan Issel | 9.8 | 1.105816478 | 10.84 | 0.25 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 8 | 1899-12 | 11.64 | 0.23 |
MJ | 9.3 | 1.290946005 | 12.01 | 0.23 |
Dirk | 8.4 | 1.429530325 | 12.01 | 0.23 |
Dominique | 9.7 | 1.261425159 | 12.24 | 0.22 |
Alex English | 10.9 | 1.155656171 | 12.60 | 0.22 |
AD | 8.8 | 1.460261651 | 12.85 | 0.21 |
George Gervin | 11.7 | 1.108442323 | 12.97 | 0.21 |
Marques Johnson | 11.5 | 1.127839705 | 12.97 | 0.21 |
Horace Grant | 9.8 | 1899-12 | 13.02 | 0.21 |
Klay | 9 | 1.457024914 | 13.11 | 0.21 |
Sam Perkins | 10.3 | 1.289518438 | 13.28 | 0.20 |
David Thompson | 12.2 | 1.089576758 | 13.29 | 0.20 |
Kawhi | 9.2 | 1.452002767 | 13.36 | 0.20 |
Bill Laimbeer | 11.3 | 1.220055945 | 13.79 | 0.20 |
Shawn Marion | 9.7 | 1.425048638 | 13.82 | 0.20 |
Vince | 9.7 | 1.429755435 | 13.87 | 0.20 |
Larry Nance | 11.3 | 1.228344905 | 13.88 | 0.20 |
James Worthy | 11.3 | 1.232778544 | 13.93 | 0.19 |
Jimmy | 9.6 | 1.457024914 | 13.99 | 0.19 |
Reggie | 10.5 | 1.334407715 | 14.01 | 0.19 |
McHale | 11.7 | 1.213906403 | 14.20 | 0.19 |
Sheed Wallace | 10.2 | 1.404132516 | 14.32 | 0.19 |
Adrian Dantley | 12.5 | 1.155656171 | 14.45 | 0.19 |
Eddie Jones | 10.5 | 1.380585561 | 14.50 | 0.19 |
T-Mac | 10.3 | 1.41389542 | 14.56 | 0.19 |
AC Green | 11.5 | 1.297487642 | 14.92 | 0.18 |
Dr J | 13.5 | 1.117786192 | 15.09 | 0.18 |
Fat Lever | 12.3 | 1.232778544 | 15.16 | 0.18 |
Larry | 12.7 | 1.197933557 | 15.21 | 0.18 |
Melo | 10.5 | 1.450030376 | 15.23 | 0.18 |
Kareem | 13.4 | 1.14443403 | 15.34 | 0.18 |
Bosh | 10.7 | 1.437397276 | 15.38 | 0.18 |
Clifford Robinson | 11.6 | 1.35480308 | 15.72 | 0.17 |
Sidney Moncrief | 13.3 | 1.186650242 | 15.78 | 0.17 |
David Robinson | 11.9 | 1.338812724 | 15.93 | 0.17 |
Bob McAdoo | 14.3 | 1.117207515 | 15.98 | 0.17 |
K Love | 11 | 1.459451609 | 16.05 | 0.17 |
Ray Allen | 11.4 | 1.410143729 | 16.08 | 0.17 |
Jack Sikma | 13.9 | 1899-12 | 16.21 | 0.17 |
Clyde Drexler | 12.8 | 1.266383022 | 16.21 | 0.17 |
Karl Malone | 12.4 | 1.314574992 | 16.30 | 0.17 |
Joe Johnson | 11.3 | 1.44671586 | 16.35 | 0.17 |
Horford | 11.2 | 1.460499988 | 16.36 | 0.17 |
Kobe | 11.6 | 1.413573801 | 16.40 | 0.17 |
Shaq | 11.9 | 1.386390654 | 16.50 | 0.16 |
KG | 11.8 | 1.408949129 | 16.63 | 0.16 |
CWebb | 12.1 | 1.37521319 | 16.64 | 0.16 |
Jeff Hornacek | 12.8 | 1.300328305 | 16.64 | 0.16 |
Robert Parish | 13.9 | 1.201229741 | 16.70 | 0.16 |
Elton Brand | 11.8 | 1899-12 | 16.83 | 0.16 |
Kyrie | 11.6 | 1.457024914 | 16.90 | 0.16 |
Hakeem | 13.1 | 1.297572011 | 17.00 | 0.16 |
Dame | 11.7 | 1.460261651 | 17.09 | 0.16 |
AI | 12.2 | 1.403862077 | 17.13 | 0.16 |
Blake | 11.8 | 1.456818292 | 17.19 | 0.16 |
Mullin | 13.3 | 1.297487642 | 17.26 | 0.16 |
Terrell Brandon | 12.9 | 1.341407228 | 17.30 | 0.16 |
Moses | 14.6 | 1.188659373 | 17.35 | 0.16 |
Gary Payton | 12.8 | 1.358501764 | 17.39 | 0.16 |
Tim Duncan | 12.3 | 1.418243961 | 17.44 | 0.16 |
Jason Terry | 12.4 | 1.430814862 | 17.74 | 0.15 |
Ewing | 13.6 | 1.305546178 | 17.76 | 0.15 |
Millsap | 12.3 | 1.455311454 | 17.90 | 0.15 |
Pau | 12.5 | 1.440669863 | 18.01 | 0.15 |
KD | 12.5 | 1.460499988 | 18.26 | 0.15 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Elvin Hayes | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Walt Frazier | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Bob Lanier | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Wes Unseld | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Dave Cowens | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Pistol Pete | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Earl Monroe | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Tiny Archibald | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 18.31 | 0.15 | |
D Rose | 12.7 | 1.459451609 | 18.54 | 0.15 |
KAT | 12.6 | 1.472693857 | 18.56 | 0.15 |
Bobby Jones | 16.8 | 1.105598009 | 18.57 | 0.15 |
Detlef Schrempf | 14.4 | 1.297487642 | 18.68 | 0.15 |
Paul Pierce | 13.2 | 1.425811266 | 18.82 | 0.14 |
Tree Rollins | 15.8 | 1.198601075 | 18.94 | 0.14 |
Paul George | 13 | 1.456818292 | 18.94 | 0.14 |
Chuck | 14.8 | 1.283446673 | 19.00 | 0.14 |
LeBron | 13.2 | 1.450030376 | 19.14 | 0.14 |
Grant Hill | 13.7 | 1.399082179 | 19.17 | 0.14 |
Mookie Blaylock | 14.4 | 1.334415768 | 19.22 | 0.14 |
Chauncey | 13.6 | 1.415161551 | 19.25 | 0.14 |
Chris Paul | 13.4 | 1.454672219 | 19.49 | 0.14 |
Tim Hardaway | 14.6 | 1.338812724 | 19.55 | 0.14 |
Artis Gilmore | 17.4 | 1.125299297 | 19.58 | 0.14 |
Marc Gasol | 13.5 | 1.455775088 | 19.65 | 0.14 |
D Wade | 13.7 | 1899-12 | 19.78 | 0.14 |
Doc Rivers | 15.8 | 1.256074545 | 19.85 | 0.14 |
Tony Parker | 13.8 | 1899-12 | 19.88 | 0.14 |
Giannis | 13.7 | 1.464217665 | 20.06 | 0.14 |
Otis Thorpe | 15.6 | 1.289518438 | 20.12 | 0.13 |
Steph | 13.9 | 1.457431403 | 20.26 | 0.13 |
Buck Williams | 16.3 | 1.250581871 | 20.38 | 0.13 |
IT | 16.8 | 1.228344905 | 20.64 | 0.13 |
Mark Price | 16 | 1.291931972 | 20.67 | 0.13 |
Pippen | 15.6 | 1.328520947 | 20.72 | 0.13 |
Yao | 14.5 | 1.435475138 | 20.81 | 0.13 |
Alonzo Mourning | 15.2 | 1.371023372 | 20.84 | 0.13 |
Mo Cheeks | 17.5 | 1.195454492 | 20.92 | 0.13 |
Terry Porter | 16.4 | 1899-12 | 21.41 | 0.13 |
Manu | 14.9 | 1.438899842 | 21.44 | 0.13 |
Alvin Robertson | 17 | 1.26391316 | 21.49 | 0.13 |
Iggy | 15 | 1.453550582 | 21.80 | 0.12 |
Kevin Johnson | 16.7 | 1.306235912 | 21.81 | 0.12 |
Jokic | 14.9 | 1.472693857 | 21.94 | 0.12 |
Gobert | 15.1 | 1.464217665 | 22.11 | 0.12 |
AK47 | 15.5 | 1.433726861 | 22.22 | 0.12 |
Kyle Lowry | 15.4 | 1.455311454 | 22.41 | 0.12 |
Vlade Divac | 16.7 | 1.347782972 | 22.51 | 0.12 |
Harden | 15.5 | 1.457431403 | 22.59 | 0.12 |
Rod Strickland | 17 | 1.339637052 | 22.77 | 0.12 |
Bill Walton | 20.6 | 1.106855068 | 22.80 | 0.12 |
Russ | 15.9 | 1.459451609 | 23.21 | 0.12 |
Magic | 19.4 | 1.196635277 | 23.21 | 0.12 |
Dikembe | 17.5 | 1.375301198 | 24.07 | 0.11 |
Andre Miller | 16.9 | 1.426189567 | 24.10 | 0.11 |
Mark Eaton | 19.8 | 1.226667502 | 24.29 | 0.11 |
Dwight | 17 | 1.453550582 | 24.71 | 0.11 |
Dennis Rodman | 19.5 | 1.300328305 | 25.36 | 0.11 |
Tyson Chandler | 17.9 | 1.440344226 | 25.78 | 0.11 |
Kidd | 18.8 | 1.399082179 | 26.30 | 0.10 |
Stockton | 20.8 | 1.302751018 | 27.10 | 0.10 |
Nash | 19.5 | 1.410143729 | 27.50 | 0.10 |
Dray | 21.3 | 1.460261651 | 31.10 | 0.09 |
Nate McMillan | 24.2 | 1.291931972 | 31.26 | 0.09 |
Rajon Rondo | 21.7 | 1.455311454 | 31.58 | 0.09 |
We have assist:turnover ratio next. The stat itself is obviously very simple – you just take assists and divide them by turnovers to determine how many assists a player is producing per turnover. This helps reveal both high assist players who aren’t particularly careful with the ball and low turnover players who are there just because they don’t try to do much with the ball. The players who excel in assist:turnover ratio need to be productive assist men and, to a lesser but still important degree, limit their turnovers. The question is era adjustment, and while there probably is a relatively simple way to do that by messing with the assist and turnover multipliers we already have, I will pass on that like we did with true shooting percentage. I would rather just admit the simplicity of my abilities and use straight up numbers and have to deal with failing to adjust for era-based fluctuation than try to finagle an adjustment and get it wrong. So we’ll just go with normal assist and turnover numbers to create the ratio, and there are 0.75 goat points up for grabs. All players who played in the non-turnover era will end up in the middle by default here as well.
Player | AST | TO | AST:TO | GOAT POINTS |
Chris Paul | 9.5 | 2.4 | 3.96 | 0.75 |
Stockton | 10.5 | 2.8 | 3.75 | 0.71 |
Nate McMillan | 6.1 | 1.9 | 3.21 | 0.61 |
Mo Cheeks | 6.7 | 2.1 | 3.19 | 0.60 |
Fat Lever | 6.2 | 2 | 3.10 | 0.59 |
Terrell Brandon | 6.1 | 2 | 3.05 | 0.58 |
Doc Rivers | 5.7 | 1.9 | 3.00 | 0.57 |
Kidd | 8.7 | 2.9 | 3.00 | 0.57 |
Kevin Johnson | 9.1 | 3.1 | 2.94 | 0.56 |
Nash | 8.5 | 2.9 | 2.93 | 0.56 |
Rajon Rondo | 7.9 | 2.7 | 2.93 | 0.55 |
Gary Payton | 6.7 | 2.3 | 2.91 | 0.55 |
Mookie Blaylock | 6.7 | 2.3 | 2.91 | 0.55 |
Magic | 11.2 | 3.9 | 2.87 | 0.54 |
Tim Hardaway | 8.2 | 2.9 | 2.83 | 0.54 |
Rod Strickland | 7.3 | 2.6 | 2.81 | 0.53 |
Jeff Hornacek | 4.9 | 1.8 | 2.72 | 0.52 |
Andre Miller | 6.5 | 2.4 | 2.71 | 0.51 |
Chauncey | 5.4 | 2 | 2.70 | 0.51 |
Mark Price | 6.7 | 2.5 | 2.68 | 0.51 |
Terry Porter | 5.6 | 2.1 | 2.67 | 0.51 |
Kyle Lowry | 6.3 | 2.4 | 2.63 | 0.50 |
Jimmy | 4.1 | 1.6 | 2.56 | 0.49 |
Dray | 5.4 | 2.2 | 2.45 | 0.46 |
IT | 9.3 | 3.8 | 2.45 | 0.46 |
Tony Parker | 5.6 | 2.3 | 2.43 | 0.46 |
Dame | 6.6 | 2.8 | 2.36 | 0.45 |
Iggy | 4.2 | 1.8 | 2.33 | 0.44 |
Jason Terry | 3.8 | 1.7 | 2.24 | 0.42 |
Jokic | 6.2 | 2.8 | 2.21 | 0.42 |
Horford | 3.3 | 1.5 | 2.20 | 0.42 |
Kyrie | 5.7 | 2.6 | 2.19 | 0.42 |
D Rose | 5.4 | 2.5 | 2.16 | 0.41 |
LeBron | 7.4 | 3.5 | 2.11 | 0.40 |
Steph | 6.5 | 3.1 | 2.10 | 0.40 |
Clyde Drexler | 5.6 | 2.7 | 2.07 | 0.39 |
Joe Johnson | 3.9 | 1.9 | 2.05 | 0.39 |
Russ | 8.4 | 4.1 | 2.05 | 0.39 |
Larry | 6.3 | 3.1 | 2.03 | 0.38 |
T-Mac | 4.4 | 2.2 | 2.00 | 0.38 |
Horace Grant | 2.2 | 1.1 | 2.00 | 0.38 |
MJ | 5.3 | 2.7 | 1.96 | 0.37 |
Manu | 3.8 | 2 | 1.90 | 0.36 |
Pippen | 5.2 | 2.8 | 1.86 | 0.35 |
Alvin Robertson | 5 | 2.7 | 1.85 | 0.35 |
Vince | 3.1 | 1.7 | 1.82 | 0.35 |
Kawhi | 2.9 | 1.6 | 1.81 | 0.34 |
Eddie Jones | 2.9 | 1.6 | 1.81 | 0.34 |
Sidney Moncrief | 3.6 | 2 | 1.80 | 0.34 |
Harden | 6.8 | 3.8 | 1.79 | 0.34 |
Reggie | 3 | 1.7 | 1.76 | 0.33 |
AI | 6.2 | 3.6 | 1.72 | 0.33 |
Wilt | 4.4 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Oscar | 9.5 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Bill Russell | 4.3 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Jerry West | 6.7 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Bob Pettit | 3 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Dolph Schayes | 3.1 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Rick Barry | 4.9 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Walt Bellamy | 2.4 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
John Havlicek | 4.8 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Elvin Hayes | 1.8 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Chet Walker | 2.1 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Walt Frazier | 6.1 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Bailey Howell | 2 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Bob Lanier | 3.1 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Wes Unseld | 3.9 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Paul Arizin | 2.3 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
George Mikan | 2.8 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Zelmo Beaty | 1.5 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Elgin Baylor | 4.3 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Hal Greer | 4 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Ed Macauley | 3.2 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Jerry Lucas | 3.3 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Lenny Wilkens | 6.7 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Dave Cowens | 3.8 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Bob Cousy | 7.5 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Willis Reed | 1.8 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Nate Thurmond | 2.7 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Pistol Pete | 5.4 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Billy Cunningham | 4.3 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Dave DeBusschere | 2.9 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Sam Jones | 2.5 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Earl Monroe | 3.9 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Bill Sharman | 3 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Tiny Archibald | 7.4 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Dave Bing | 6 | 1.71 | 0.32 | |
Blake | 4.1 | 2.4 | 1.71 | 0.32 |
Grant Hill | 4.1 | 2.4 | 1.71 | 0.32 |
Marc Gasol | 3.4 | 2 | 1.70 | 0.32 |
Detlef Schrempf | 3.4 | 2 | 1.70 | 0.32 |
D Wade | 5.4 | 3.2 | 1.69 | 0.32 |
KG | 3.7 | 2.2 | 1.68 | 0.32 |
Ray Allen | 3.4 | 2.1 | 1.62 | 0.31 |
Giannis | 4.6 | 2.9 | 1.59 | 0.30 |
Kobe | 4.7 | 3 | 1.57 | 0.30 |
Mullin | 3.5 | 2.3 | 1.52 | 0.29 |
CWebb | 4.2 | 2.8 | 1.50 | 0.28 |
James Worthy | 3 | 2 | 1.50 | 0.28 |
Marques Johnson | 3.6 | 2.4 | 1.50 | 0.28 |
Dirk | 2.4 | 1.6 | 1.50 | 0.28 |
Pau | 3.2 | 2.2 | 1.45 | 0.28 |
Alex English | 3.6 | 2.5 | 1.44 | 0.27 |
AK47 | 2.7 | 1.9 | 1.42 | 0.27 |
Vlade Divac | 3.1 | 2.2 | 1.41 | 0.27 |
Jack Sikma | 3.2 | 2.3 | 1.39 | 0.26 |
Larry Nance | 2.6 | 1.9 | 1.37 | 0.26 |
Klay | 2.3 | 1.7 | 1.35 | 0.26 |
Bobby Jones | 2.7 | 2 | 1.35 | 0.26 |
Paul Pierce | 3.5 | 2.6 | 1.35 | 0.25 |
KD | 4.3 | 3.2 | 1.34 | 0.25 |
Paul George | 3.6 | 2.7 | 1.33 | 0.25 |
Bill Laimbeer | 2 | 1.5 | 1.33 | 0.25 |
Kareem | 3.6 | 2.7 | 1.33 | 0.25 |
Millsap | 2.2 | 1.7 | 1.29 | 0.25 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1.9 | 1.5 | 1.27 | 0.24 |
Shawn Marion | 1.9 | 1.5 | 1.27 | 0.24 |
K Love | 2.4 | 1.9 | 1.26 | 0.24 |
Bill Walton | 3.4 | 2.7 | 1.26 | 0.24 |
Chuck | 3.9 | 3.1 | 1.26 | 0.24 |
Tim Duncan | 3 | 2.4 | 1.25 | 0.24 |
Sam Perkins | 1.5 | 1.2 | 1.25 | 0.24 |
Dr J | 4.2 | 3.4 | 1.24 | 0.23 |
Clifford Robinson | 2.2 | 1.8 | 1.22 | 0.23 |
David Thompson | 3.3 | 2.7 | 1.22 | 0.23 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.8 | 1.5 | 1.20 | 0.23 |
Karl Malone | 3.6 | 3.1 | 1.16 | 0.22 |
AD | 2.3 | 2 | 1.15 | 0.22 |
KAT | 3.1 | 2.7 | 1.15 | 0.22 |
Melo | 2.7 | 2.4 | 1.13 | 0.21 |
Dennis Rodman | 1.8 | 1.6 | 1.13 | 0.21 |
Elton Brand | 2.1 | 1.9 | 1.11 | 0.21 |
Dan Issel | 2.4 | 2.2 | 1.09 | 0.21 |
David Robinson | 2.5 | 2.4 | 1.04 | 0.20 |
Adrian Dantley | 3 | 2.9 | 1.03 | 0.20 |
Bosh | 2 | 2 | 1.00 | 0.19 |
AC Green | 1.1 | 1.1 | 1.00 | 0.19 |
Otis Thorpe | 2.2 | 2.2 | 1.00 | 0.19 |
Dominique | 2.5 | 2.5 | 1.00 | 0.19 |
Shaq | 2.5 | 2.7 | 0.93 | 0.18 |
McHale | 1.7 | 1.9 | 0.89 | 0.17 |
Bob McAdoo | 2.3 | 2.6 | 0.88 | 0.17 |
George Gervin | 2.6 | 3 | 0.87 | 0.16 |
Hakeem | 2.5 | 3 | 0.83 | 0.16 |
Gobert | 1.3 | 1.6 | 0.81 | 0.15 |
Artis Gilmore | 2.3 | 3.1 | 0.74 | 0.14 |
Mark Eaton | 1 | 1.5 | 0.67 | 0.13 |
Robert Parish | 1.4 | 2.1 | 0.67 | 0.13 |
Tree Rollins | 0.6 | 0.9 | 0.67 | 0.13 |
Ewing | 1.9 | 3 | 0.63 | 0.12 |
Buck Williams | 1.3 | 2.1 | 0.62 | 0.12 |
Yao | 1.6 | 2.7 | 0.59 | 0.11 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.8 | 1.4 | 0.57 | 0.11 |
Dikembe | 1 | 1.8 | 0.56 | 0.11 |
Dwight | 1.3 | 2.7 | 0.48 | 0.09 |
Alonzo Mourning | 1.1 | 2.6 | 0.42 | 0.08 |
Moses | 1.3 | 3.1 | 0.42 | 0.08 |
And with that, we’ve finished our second category. Here’s the leaderboard for the playmaking alone, and then we’ll do another one for our cumulative leaders after two categories.
Player | GOAT POINTS |
Stockton | 4.30 |
Chris Paul | 4.15 |
Magic | 3.82 |
Nash | 3.73 |
Kidd | 3.63 |
Kevin Johnson | 3.60 |
Rajon Rondo | 3.50 |
Tim Hardaway | 3.41 |
Russ | 3.31 |
IT | 3.31 |
Rod Strickland | 3.28 |
Oscar | 3.28 |
Terrell Brandon | 3.14 |
Andre Miller | 3.12 |
Gary Payton | 3.11 |
Bob Cousy | 3.10 |
Nate McMillan | 3.05 |
Mark Price | 3.05 |
Mookie Blaylock | 3.03 |
LeBron | 3.02 |
Mo Cheeks | 3.01 |
Kyle Lowry | 2.91 |
Fat Lever | 2.90 |
Doc Rivers | 2.86 |
Dame | 2.82 |
Tiny Archibald | 2.81 |
Tony Parker | 2.81 |
Chauncey | 2.80 |
Terry Porter | 2.79 |
Steph | 2.76 |
Jokic | 2.76 |
Harden | 2.76 |
Lenny Wilkens | 2.73 |
Jerry West | 2.65 |
Kyrie | 2.63 |
D Rose | 2.60 |
AI | 2.59 |
Dray | 2.57 |
Jeff Hornacek | 2.57 |
Larry | 2.49 |
D Wade | 2.46 |
Dave Bing | 2.46 |
Clyde Drexler | 2.45 |
Walt Frazier | 2.43 |
T-Mac | 2.40 |
MJ | 2.39 |
Jimmy | 2.35 |
Pippen | 2.30 |
Pistol Pete | 2.28 |
Jason Terry | 2.27 |
Iggy | 2.26 |
Manu | 2.23 |
Alvin Robertson | 2.22 |
Kobe | 2.21 |
Rick Barry | 2.17 |
John Havlicek | 2.14 |
Joe Johnson | 2.14 |
Grant Hill | 2.11 |
Giannis | 2.11 |
Blake | 2.06 |
Horford | 2.06 |
Billy Cunningham | 2.02 |
CWebb | 2.02 |
Vince | 2.00 |
KG | 2.00 |
Elgin Baylor | 1.98 |
Bill Russell | 1.98 |
Hal Greer | 1.95 |
Sidney Moncrief | 1.94 |
Wilt | 1.94 |
KD | 1.93 |
Earl Monroe | 1.92 |
Eddie Jones | 1.90 |
Detlef Schrempf | 1.89 |
Ray Allen | 1.89 |
Horace Grant | 1.88 |
Marc Gasol | 1.87 |
Kawhi | 1.87 |
Reggie | 1.85 |
Alex English | 1.85 |
Marques Johnson | 1.84 |
Ed Macauley | 1.83 |
Dr J | 1.82 |
Mullin | 1.81 |
Paul Pierce | 1.81 |
Wes Unseld | 1.81 |
Bill Sharman | 1.80 |
Pau | 1.77 |
Dolph Schayes | 1.77 |
Dave Cowens | 1.77 |
Paul George | 1.76 |
Chuck | 1.75 |
Vlade Divac | 1.72 |
James Worthy | 1.71 |
Dirk | 1.71 |
Kareem | 1.70 |
Bob Pettit | 1.70 |
Karl Malone | 1.69 |
George Mikan | 1.69 |
David Thompson | 1.69 |
Jerry Lucas | 1.68 |
Bill Walton | 1.68 |
Tim Duncan | 1.67 |
Bob Lanier | 1.67 |
AK47 | 1.66 |
Jack Sikma | 1.66 |
Sam Jones | 1.65 |
Bobby Jones | 1.62 |
Dave DeBusschere | 1.59 |
Larry Nance | 1.59 |
Klay | 1.55 |
KAT | 1.54 |
Melo | 1.53 |
Nate Thurmond | 1.52 |
Dan Issel | 1.52 |
K Love | 1.52 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1.51 |
Bill Laimbeer | 1.51 |
Clifford Robinson | 1.51 |
Millsap | 1.51 |
Adrian Dantley | 1.49 |
Paul Arizin | 1.49 |
Shawn Marion | 1.48 |
Sam Perkins | 1.47 |
AD | 1.47 |
Walt Bellamy | 1.45 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.45 |
Dominique | 1.44 |
David Robinson | 1.43 |
Elton Brand | 1.42 |
Shaq | 1.41 |
Chet Walker | 1.41 |
George Gervin | 1.40 |
Bailey Howell | 1.37 |
Bosh | 1.34 |
AC Green | 1.32 |
Otis Thorpe | 1.32 |
Hakeem | 1.30 |
Bob McAdoo | 1.29 |
Willis Reed | 1.29 |
Dennis Rodman | 1.28 |
Elvin Hayes | 1.25 |
McHale | 1.24 |
Zelmo Beaty | 1.23 |
Tree Rollins | 1.19 |
Artis Gilmore | 1.18 |
Ewing | 1.09 |
Gobert | 1.07 |
Robert Parish | 1.06 |
Yao | 1.04 |
Mark Eaton | 1.00 |
Buck Williams | 0.96 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.92 |
Dikembe | 0.91 |
Dwight | 0.87 |
Moses | 0.86 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.84 |
And the cumulative leaderboard after scoring and playmaking –
Player | TOTAL GOAT POINTS |
LeBron | 11.07 |
Steph | 11.00 |
Magic | 10.91 |
Chris Paul | 10.88 |
Harden | 10.85 |
MJ | 10.68 |
Stockton | 10.62 |
Larry | 10.60 |
Dame | 10.59 |
Oscar | 10.50 |
Nash | 10.44 |
AI | 10.40 |
Tim Hardaway | 10.37 |
Russ | 10.33 |
KD | 10.21 |
Kyrie | 10.17 |
Kevin Johnson | 10.14 |
Jerry West | 10.08 |
Kobe | 10.08 |
Mark Price | 10.01 |
IT | 9.86 |
Rick Barry | 9.81 |
Jokic | 9.74 |
Chauncey | 9.57 |
Wilt | 9.57 |
D Wade | 9.52 |
Clyde Drexler | 9.52 |
Reggie | 9.40 |
T-Mac | 9.40 |
Pistol Pete | 9.40 |
George Mikan | 9.39 |
Kidd | 9.38 |
Gary Payton | 9.38 |
Bob Cousy | 9.29 |
Ray Allen | 9.29 |
Tiny Archibald | 9.24 |
Giannis | 9.23 |
Kyle Lowry | 9.20 |
Terrell Brandon | 9.11 |
Elgin Baylor | 9.10 |
Bob Pettit | 9.09 |
Karl Malone | 9.08 |
Paul Pierce | 9.08 |
Jeff Hornacek | 9.08 |
Terry Porter | 9.08 |
Chuck | 9.08 |
Dirk | 9.07 |
KAT | 9.07 |
Dominique | 9.06 |
Dr J | 9.03 |
D Rose | 8.96 |
Mookie Blaylock | 8.96 |
Tony Parker | 8.94 |
Kawhi | 8.94 |
Paul George | 8.91 |
Mullin | 8.90 |
George Gervin | 8.90 |
Dave Bing | 8.89 |
David Thompson | 8.85 |
Jimmy | 8.83 |
Rod Strickland | 8.83 |
Blake | 8.79 |
Melo | 8.78 |
Paul Arizin | 8.78 |
AD | 8.73 |
Ed Macauley | 8.73 |
Lenny Wilkens | 8.69 |
Klay | 8.67 |
Manu | 8.64 |
Vince | 8.62 |
Pippen | 8.62 |
CWebb | 8.61 |
John Havlicek | 8.56 |
Bill Sharman | 8.54 |
Billy Cunningham | 8.54 |
Adrian Dantley | 8.53 |
Fat Lever | 8.50 |
Jason Terry | 8.50 |
Andre Miller | 8.49 |
Doc Rivers | 8.42 |
Grant Hill | 8.40 |
Dolph Schayes | 8.39 |
Eddie Jones | 8.39 |
Rajon Rondo | 8.38 |
Joe Johnson | 8.38 |
Shaq | 8.36 |
Alex English | 8.36 |
David Robinson | 8.33 |
Mo Cheeks | 8.32 |
K Love | 8.30 |
KG | 8.27 |
Sidney Moncrief | 8.24 |
Kareem | 8.22 |
Detlef Schrempf | 8.21 |
Hal Greer | 8.21 |
Pau | 8.19 |
Dan Issel | 8.14 |
Bosh | 8.09 |
Walt Bellamy | 8.08 |
Tim Duncan | 7.97 |
Marques Johnson | 7.96 |
Sam Jones | 7.95 |
Walt Frazier | 7.94 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 7.93 |
Horford | 7.92 |
Alvin Robertson | 7.92 |
Jack Sikma | 7.87 |
Bob Lanier | 7.87 |
Hakeem | 7.84 |
Bailey Howell | 7.84 |
Chet Walker | 7.84 |
James Worthy | 7.83 |
Marc Gasol | 7.77 |
Jerry Lucas | 7.76 |
Iggy | 7.73 |
McHale | 7.66 |
Yao | 7.62 |
Nate McMillan | 7.61 |
Clifford Robinson | 7.58 |
Shawn Marion | 7.57 |
Willis Reed | 7.57 |
Bob McAdoo | 7.56 |
Sheed Wallace | 7.55 |
Ewing | 7.47 |
Bill Russell | 7.47 |
Dray | 7.45 |
Sam Perkins | 7.42 |
AK47 | 7.42 |
Larry Nance | 7.41 |
Artis Gilmore | 7.40 |
Millsap | 7.40 |
Earl Monroe | 7.32 |
Bill Laimbeer | 7.30 |
Dave DeBusschere | 7.27 |
Alonzo Mourning | 7.27 |
Elvin Hayes | 7.14 |
Dwight | 7.07 |
Vlade Divac | 7.06 |
Nate Thurmond | 7.05 |
Elton Brand | 7.03 |
Moses | 7.01 |
Dave Cowens | 6.99 |
Zelmo Beaty | 6.90 |
Wes Unseld | 6.89 |
Otis Thorpe | 6.62 |
Bobby Jones | 6.57 |
Horace Grant | 6.56 |
Gobert | 6.54 |
Bill Walton | 6.51 |
AC Green | 6.41 |
Buck Williams | 6.32 |
Robert Parish | 6.22 |
Dennis Rodman | 5.80 |
Tyson Chandler | 5.61 |
Dikembe | 5.55 |
Tree Rollins | 4.98 |
Mark Eaton | 4.47 |
There’s still plenty of time to go, but we see LeBron and Steph leading after scoring and playmaking. Magic, Paul, and Stockton take some jumps here. Guys like Tim Hardaway and Kevin Johnson are in the top 20 after a playmaking boost. Some big names in an early hole – Shaq (86th), KG (91st), Kareem (93rd), Tim Duncan (100th), Hakeem (109th), and Bill Russell (125th). There’s obviously a common theme in type of player there, and we’ll start to see them rise after our next category – rebounding.
REBOUNDING (5)
Rebounding gets 5 points as well. It’s probably pretty widely accepted that rebounding on its own is a less impactful area of the game than scoring. I tend to group it with passing or playmaking as the two big secondary pieces beyond scoring, though some might disagree with that method. Sometimes we can give rebounding less props than it deserves – likely because the correlation between height and rebounding volume makes it easier to pass it off as a relatively skill-less piece of the game. But it isn’t quite as easy as it might seem, and it’s also important regardless. Offensive rebounds to gain new possessions are massive, and securing the defensive glass on the other to both spark your next possession and limit the other team’s shots is a key piece of any game plan. The other important aspect that separates rebounds from something like a steal or a block is the volume. Rebounds don’t come on every possession, but they still come on a lot of them. As far as reasons to discredit the importance go, the same idea of a niche group of rebounders exists here too; it’s certainly far easier to be considered a good player with underwhelming rebounding numbers than it is with underwhelming scoring numbers. We also have less statistics available here than for scoring. We can look at total and offensive/defensive rebounding numbers and percentages, but there isn’t much else out there that’s widely available.
Subcategories:
- Pure Volume (3.75) – Rebounds per game (2.25), Rebounds per 36 (1.5)
- Percentages (1.25) – Rebound percentage (1.25)
I’m making the executive decision to just use total rebounds here. While there is value in distinguishing between the offensive and defensive glass and rewarding players who excel in either category, it’s going to be very rare to find a player that grabs a ton of offensive or defensive boards but doesn’t grab a lot of total rebounds – and the same goes in the opposite direction with few offensive or defensive boards grabbed. There’s obviously a little more leeway in that with offensive rebounds, which come with less frequency, but the general point that total rebounds are a fairly accurate measure of rebounding prowess still stands. This matters because offensive and defensive boards were not recorded as their own stat before 1974, which means that we’d be putting a decent amount of good and bad rebounders from the first 20+ years of league history right in the middle on the offensive and defensive glass. I don’t think it makes sense to have those guys rise and fall when we…
1) have a way to measure general rebounding prowess to begin with. This is not something like three-point shooting, which is a completely unique aspect of scoring, nor is it something like a turnover, which is obviously distinct from an assist
and 2) have very few players who have an uneven tilt towards offensive or defensive rebounds, especially considering that the total rebound numbers we’ll be using act as a balance point anyway (a player with high offensive rebounding numbers and mediocre defensive rebounding numbers will see this balance reflected in a an above-average total rebounding spot).
So rather than putting stock into messing around with those averages, we will just put more emphasis on the total rebound numbers.
And with that, we’ll get started with total rebounds per game. We’ll adjust for era as usual. One last note – rebounds weren’t recorded at all in George Mikan’s first two seasons (1949 and 1950) or the first season for Dolph Schayes and Ed Macauley (’50), so we’ll just use what we got there.
Player | REB | Multiplier | EA REB | GOAT POINTS |
Wilt | 22.9 | 1.184136408 | 27.12 | 2.25 |
Bill Russell | 22.5 | 1.089721447 | 24.52 | 2.03 |
Dennis Rodman | 13.1 | 1.722813547 | 22.57 | 1.87 |
Wes Unseld | 14 | 1899-12 | 21.18 | 1.76 |
Dave Cowens | 13.6 | 1.540629691 | 20.95 | 1.74 |
Moses | 12.3 | 1.673909258 | 20.59 | 1.71 |
Dwight | 11.8 | 1.719114764 | 20.29 | 1.68 |
Chuck | 11.7 | 1.718426541 | 20.11 | 1.67 |
Nate Thurmond | 15 | 1.331454906 | 19.97 | 1.66 |
Jerry Lucas | 15.6 | 1.269883333 | 19.81 | 1.64 |
Artis Gilmore | 12.3 | 1.604919158 | 19.74 | 1.64 |
Gobert | 11.7 | 1.672635822 | 19.57 | 1.62 |
Elvin Hayes | 12.5 | 1.544793322 | 19.31 | 1.60 |
Shaq | 10.9 | 1.754810524 | 19.13 | 1.59 |
Hakeem | 11.1 | 1.719873721 | 19.09 | 1.58 |
Tim Duncan | 10.8 | 1.746123933 | 18.86 | 1.56 |
KAT | 11.3 | 1.662135905 | 18.78 | 1.56 |
George Mikan | 13.4 | 1.385525279 | 18.57 | 1.54 |
David Robinson | 10.6 | 1.734401288 | 18.38 | 1.53 |
K Love | 10.7 | 1.704206075 | 18.24 | 1.51 |
Dikembe | 10.3 | 1.749187217 | 18.02 | 1.49 |
Bob Pettit | 16.2 | 1.102513795 | 17.86 | 1.48 |
Kareem | 11.2 | 1.591932543 | 17.83 | 1.48 |
KG | 10 | 1.74973033 | 17.50 | 1.45 |
Karl Malone | 10.1 | 1.723545612 | 17.41 | 1.44 |
Jokic | 10.4 | 1.662135905 | 17.29 | 1.43 |
Walt Bellamy | 13.7 | 1.261470501 | 17.28 | 1.43 |
CWebb | 9.8 | 1.754563351 | 17.19 | 1.43 |
Bill Walton | 10.5 | 1.637032801 | 17.19 | 1.43 |
AD | 10.2 | 1.679956563 | 17.14 | 1.42 |
Buck Williams | 10 | 1.709975935 | 17.10 | 1.42 |
Ewing | 9.8 | 1.721651283 | 16.87 | 1.40 |
Larry | 10 | 1.682744994 | 16.83 | 1.40 |
Willis Reed | 12.9 | 1.285339042 | 16.58 | 1.38 |
Bill Laimbeer | 9.7 | 1.689525188 | 16.39 | 1.36 |
Jack Sikma | 9.8 | 1899-12 | 16.37 | 1.36 |
Yao | 9.2 | 1.764676531 | 16.24 | 1.35 |
Pau | 9.2 | 1.733633252 | 15.95 | 1.32 |
Bob Lanier | 10.1 | 1899-12 | 15.90 | 1.32 |
Giannis | 9.4 | 1.672635822 | 15.72 | 1.30 |
Elgin Baylor | 13.5 | 1.155381467 | 15.60 | 1.29 |
Tyson Chandler | 9 | 1.728738081 | 15.56 | 1.29 |
Robert Parish | 9.1 | 1.684393242 | 15.33 | 1.27 |
Shawn Marion | 8.7 | 1.747787392 | 15.21 | 1.26 |
Bob McAdoo | 9.4 | 1.613459807 | 15.17 | 1.26 |
Alonzo Mourning | 8.5 | 1.751486668 | 14.89 | 1.24 |
Bosh | 8.5 | 1.748377136 | 14.86 | 1.23 |
Elton Brand | 8.5 | 1899-12 | 14.82 | 1.23 |
Dolph Schayes | 12.1 | 1.195727971 | 14.47 | 1.20 |
Dan Issel | 9.1 | 1.572329725 | 14.31 | 1.19 |
Vlade Divac | 8.2 | 1.7360938 | 14.24 | 1.18 |
Billy Cunningham | 10.4 | 1.355770367 | 14.10 | 1.17 |
Otis Thorpe | 8.2 | 1.71907273 | 14.10 | 1.17 |
Horace Grant | 8.1 | 1899-12 | 14.00 | 1.16 |
Horford | 8.2 | 1.707259003 | 14.00 | 1.16 |
Blake | 8.2 | 1.693052842 | 13.88 | 1.15 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 8.1 | 1899-12 | 13.87 | 1.15 |
Zelmo Beaty | 10.9 | 1.267838747 | 13.82 | 1.15 |
Dave DeBusschere | 11 | 1.255888808 | 13.81 | 1.15 |
Dr J | 8.5 | 1.599379831 | 13.59 | 1.13 |
Larry Nance | 8 | 1.689515189 | 13.52 | 1.12 |
Mark Eaton | 7.9 | 1.687703632 | 13.33 | 1.11 |
Dirk | 7.5 | 1.733842235 | 13.00 | 1.08 |
LeBron | 7.5 | 1.720303785 | 12.90 | 1.07 |
AC Green | 7.4 | 1.720911328 | 12.73 | 1.06 |
Marc Gasol | 7.4 | 1.708246128 | 12.64 | 1.05 |
Russ | 7.4 | 1.704206075 | 12.61 | 1.05 |
McHale | 7.3 | 1.688003869 | 12.32 | 1.02 |
Magic | 7.2 | 1.690263365 | 12.17 | 1.01 |
Millsap | 7.1 | 1.712325389 | 12.16 | 1.01 |
KD | 7.1 | 1.707259003 | 12.12 | 1.01 |
Sheed Wallace | 6.7 | 1.758193537 | 11.78 | 0.98 |
Marques Johnson | 7 | 1.660977439 | 11.63 | 0.96 |
Dray | 6.9 | 1.679956563 | 11.59 | 0.96 |
Dominique | 6.7 | 1.714266215 | 11.49 | 0.95 |
Bailey Howell | 9.9 | 1899-12 | 11.29 | 0.94 |
Kidd | 6.3 | 1.758647926 | 11.08 | 0.92 |
Pippen | 6.4 | 1.728890133 | 11.06 | 0.92 |
Paul George | 6.4 | 1.693052842 | 10.84 | 0.90 |
Kawhi | 6.4 | 1.688958639 | 10.81 | 0.90 |
Detlef Schrempf | 6.2 | 1.720911328 | 10.67 | 0.89 |
Melo | 6.2 | 1.720303785 | 10.67 | 0.88 |
MJ | 6.2 | 1.718714993 | 10.66 | 0.88 |
Grant Hill | 6 | 1.758647926 | 10.55 | 0.88 |
Clyde Drexler | 6.1 | 1.715216689 | 10.46 | 0.87 |
Paul Arizin | 8.6 | 1.210243026 | 10.41 | 0.86 |
Sam Perkins | 6 | 1.71907273 | 10.31 | 0.86 |
Fat Lever | 6 | 1.689503523 | 10.14 | 0.84 |
Bobby Jones | 6.1 | 1.624868299 | 9.91 | 0.82 |
T-Mac | 5.6 | 1.755577217 | 9.83 | 0.82 |
Paul Pierce | 5.6 | 1.741838188 | 9.75 | 0.81 |
Tree Rollins | 5.8 | 1.680209241 | 9.75 | 0.81 |
AK47 | 5.5 | 1.751564271 | 9.63 | 0.80 |
Rick Barry | 6.7 | 1.436143893 | 9.62 | 0.80 |
Ed Macauley | 7.5 | 1.276752893 | 9.58 | 0.79 |
Harden | 5.6 | 1.698401849 | 9.51 | 0.79 |
Adrian Dantley | 5.7 | 1.662725868 | 9.48 | 0.79 |
Oscar | 7.5 | 1.221628998 | 9.16 | 0.76 |
Alex English | 5.5 | 1.662725868 | 9.14 | 0.76 |
Kobe | 5.2 | 1.748233795 | 9.09 | 0.75 |
Chet Walker | 7.1 | 1.279321173 | 9.08 | 0.75 |
Jimmy | 5.3 | 1.685570163 | 8.93 | 0.74 |
Alvin Robertson | 5.2 | 1.704961875 | 8.87 | 0.74 |
Walt Frazier | 5.9 | 1.468205153 | 8.66 | 0.72 |
James Worthy | 5.1 | 1.689503523 | 8.62 | 0.71 |
George Gervin | 5.3 | 1.608353642 | 8.52 | 0.71 |
Iggy | 4.9 | 1.719114764 | 8.42 | 0.70 |
John Havlicek | 6.3 | 1.331426704 | 8.39 | 0.70 |
D Wade | 4.7 | 1899-12 | 8.15 | 0.68 |
Clifford Robinson | 4.6 | 1.742139161 | 8.01 | 0.66 |
Sidney Moncrief | 4.7 | 1.68281356 | 7.91 | 0.66 |
Steph | 4.6 | 1.698401849 | 7.81 | 0.65 |
Chris Paul | 4.5 | 1.717052303 | 7.73 | 0.64 |
Rajon Rondo | 4.5 | 1.712325389 | 7.71 | 0.64 |
Kyle Lowry | 4.4 | 1.712325389 | 7.53 | 0.63 |
Vince | 4.3 | 1.729605088 | 7.44 | 0.62 |
Ray Allen | 4.1 | 1.754951896 | 7.20 | 0.60 |
Mookie Blaylock | 4.1 | 1.734156106 | 7.11 | 0.59 |
Jerry West | 5.8 | 1.221628998 | 7.09 | 0.59 |
Dame | 4.2 | 1.679956563 | 7.06 | 0.59 |
Mullin | 4.1 | 1.720911328 | 7.06 | 0.59 |
Eddie Jones | 4 | 1.757796281 | 7.03 | 0.58 |
Joe Johnson | 4 | 1.721754816 | 6.89 | 0.57 |
Nate McMillan | 4 | 1.720292752 | 6.88 | 0.57 |
Gary Payton | 3.9 | 1.744304028 | 6.80 | 0.56 |
David Thompson | 4.1 | 1.620948649 | 6.65 | 0.55 |
AI | 3.7 | 1.757493639 | 6.50 | 0.54 |
Andre Miller | 3.7 | 1.743687086 | 6.45 | 0.54 |
Pistol Pete | 4.2 | 1.529524121 | 6.42 | 0.53 |
Rod Strickland | 3.7 | 1.732456499 | 6.41 | 0.53 |
Kyrie | 3.8 | 1.685570163 | 6.41 | 0.53 |
Bob Cousy | 5.2 | 1.189678981 | 6.19 | 0.51 |
Manu | 3.5 | 1.740362611 | 6.09 | 0.51 |
IT | 3.6 | 1.689515189 | 6.08 | 0.50 |
Klay | 3.5 | 1.685570163 | 5.90 | 0.49 |
Hal Greer | 5 | 1.17519398 | 5.88 | 0.49 |
Jeff Hornacek | 3.4 | 1.722813547 | 5.86 | 0.49 |
Lenny Wilkens | 4.7 | 1.244221035 | 5.85 | 0.49 |
Tim Hardaway | 3.3 | 1.734401288 | 5.72 | 0.47 |
Kevin Johnson | 3.3 | 1.726841163 | 5.70 | 0.47 |
D Rose | 3.3 | 1.704206075 | 5.62 | 0.47 |
Dave Bing | 3.8 | 1.40964288 | 5.36 | 0.44 |
Sam Jones | 4.9 | 1.082374516 | 5.30 | 0.44 |
Nash | 3 | 1.754951896 | 5.26 | 0.44 |
Terrell Brandon | 3 | 1.740112124 | 5.22 | 0.43 |
Reggie | 3 | 1.730294937 | 5.19 | 0.43 |
Terry Porter | 3 | 1899-12 | 5.16 | 0.43 |
Doc Rivers | 3 | 1.705295756 | 5.12 | 0.42 |
Chauncey | 2.9 | 1.752988998 | 5.08 | 0.42 |
Bill Sharman | 3.9 | 1.226682232 | 4.78 | 0.40 |
Mo Cheeks | 2.8 | 1.68047517 | 4.71 | 0.39 |
Tony Parker | 2.7 | 1899-12 | 4.68 | 0.39 |
Stockton | 2.7 | 1.720806086 | 4.65 | 0.39 |
Mark Price | 2.6 | 1.720292752 | 4.47 | 0.37 |
Earl Monroe | 3 | 1.468205153 | 4.40 | 0.37 |
Jason Terry | 2.3 | 1.737999517 | 4.00 | 0.33 |
Tiny Archibald | 2.3 | 1.573967091 | 3.62 | 0.30 |
We can do rebounds per 36 next using the same methods for everything. There are 1.5 goat points on the line here.
Player | RP36 | Multiplier | EA RP36 | GOAT POINTS |
Dennis Rodman | 14.9 | 1.722813547 | 25.67 | 1.50 |
Gobert | 14 | 1.672635822 | 23.42 | 1.37 |
Dwight | 13.3 | 1.719114764 | 22.86 | 1.34 |
Bill Walton | 13.4 | 1.637032801 | 21.94 | 1.28 |
Moses | 13 | 1.673909258 | 21.76 | 1.27 |
Wilt | 18 | 1.184136408 | 21.31 | 1.25 |
Dikembe | 12.1 | 1.749187217 | 21.17 | 1.24 |
K Love | 12.4 | 1.704206075 | 21.13 | 1.23 |
Wes Unseld | 13.8 | 1899-12 | 20.88 | 1.22 |
Bill Russell | 19.1 | 1.089721447 | 20.81 | 1.22 |
Tyson Chandler | 11.9 | 1.728738081 | 20.57 | 1.20 |
Jokic | 12.3 | 1.662135905 | 20.44 | 1.19 |
Tim Duncan | 11.5 | 1.746123933 | 20.08 | 1.17 |
Artis Gilmore | 12.5 | 1.604919158 | 20.06 | 1.17 |
KAT | 11.9 | 1.662135905 | 19.78 | 1.16 |
Chuck | 11.5 | 1.718426541 | 19.76 | 1.15 |
Shaq | 11.2 | 1.754810524 | 19.65 | 1.15 |
Dave Cowens | 12.7 | 1.540629691 | 19.57 | 1.14 |
Robert Parish | 11.6 | 1.684393242 | 19.54 | 1.14 |
Nate Thurmond | 14.5 | 1.331454906 | 19.31 | 1.13 |
Hakeem | 11.2 | 1.719873721 | 19.26 | 1.13 |
George Mikan | 13.8 | 1.385525279 | 19.12 | 1.12 |
David Robinson | 11 | 1.734401288 | 19.08 | 1.11 |
Buck Williams | 11 | 1.709975935 | 18.81 | 1.10 |
Bill Laimbeer | 11 | 1.689525188 | 18.58 | 1.09 |
Jerry Lucas | 14.5 | 1.269883333 | 18.41 | 1.08 |
KG | 10.5 | 1.74973033 | 18.37 | 1.07 |
Elvin Hayes | 11.7 | 1.544793322 | 18.07 | 1.06 |
Yao | 10.2 | 1.764676531 | 18.00 | 1.05 |
AD | 10.7 | 1.679956563 | 17.98 | 1.05 |
Ewing | 10.3 | 1.721651283 | 17.73 | 1.04 |
Jack Sikma | 10.5 | 1899-12 | 17.54 | 1.02 |
Giannis | 10.4 | 1.672635822 | 17.40 | 1.02 |
Kareem | 10.9 | 1.591932543 | 17.35 | 1.01 |
Alonzo Mourning | 9.9 | 1.751486668 | 17.34 | 1.01 |
Vlade Divac | 9.9 | 1.7360938 | 17.19 | 1.00 |
Pau | 9.9 | 1.733633252 | 17.16 | 1.00 |
Bob Lanier | 10.9 | 1899-12 | 17.16 | 1.00 |
Tree Rollins | 10.1 | 1.680209241 | 16.97 | 0.99 |
Karl Malone | 9.8 | 1.723545612 | 16.89 | 0.99 |
Willis Reed | 13.1 | 1.285339042 | 16.84 | 0.98 |
Mark Eaton | 9.9 | 1.687703632 | 16.71 | 0.98 |
CWebb | 9.5 | 1.754563351 | 16.67 | 0.97 |
Walt Bellamy | 13.2 | 1.261470501 | 16.65 | 0.97 |
Bob Pettit | 15.1 | 1.102513795 | 16.65 | 0.97 |
Bob McAdoo | 10.2 | 1.613459807 | 16.46 | 0.96 |
Elton Brand | 9.3 | 1899-12 | 16.22 | 0.95 |
Otis Thorpe | 9.4 | 1.71907273 | 16.16 | 0.94 |
AC Green | 9.3 | 1.720911328 | 16.00 | 0.94 |
Shawn Marion | 9.1 | 1.747787392 | 15.90 | 0.93 |
Larry | 9.4 | 1.682744994 | 15.82 | 0.92 |
Millsap | 9.1 | 1.712325389 | 15.58 | 0.91 |
Horford | 9.1 | 1.707259003 | 15.54 | 0.91 |
Blake | 9 | 1.693052842 | 15.24 | 0.89 |
Horace Grant | 8.8 | 1899-12 | 15.21 | 0.89 |
Dan Issel | 9.6 | 1.572329725 | 15.09 | 0.88 |
Bosh | 8.6 | 1.748377136 | 15.04 | 0.88 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 8.7 | 1899-12 | 14.90 | 0.87 |
Zelmo Beaty | 11.7 | 1.267838747 | 14.83 | 0.87 |
Dray | 8.8 | 1.679956563 | 14.78 | 0.86 |
Dolph Schayes | 12.3 | 1.195727971 | 14.71 | 0.86 |
Larry Nance | 8.6 | 1.689515189 | 14.53 | 0.85 |
Billy Cunningham | 10.7 | 1.355770367 | 14.51 | 0.85 |
McHale | 8.5 | 1.688003869 | 14.35 | 0.84 |
Marc Gasol | 8.3 | 1.708246128 | 14.18 | 0.83 |
Elgin Baylor | 12.2 | 1.155381467 | 14.10 | 0.82 |
Dirk | 8.1 | 1.733842235 | 14.04 | 0.82 |
Dave DeBusschere | 11.1 | 1.255888808 | 13.94 | 0.81 |
Dr J | 8.4 | 1.599379831 | 13.43 | 0.79 |
Russ | 7.7 | 1.704206075 | 13.12 | 0.77 |
Sheed Wallace | 7.4 | 1.758193537 | 13.01 | 0.76 |
Bobby Jones | 8 | 1.624868299 | 13.00 | 0.76 |
Detlef Schrempf | 7.5 | 1.720911328 | 12.91 | 0.75 |
Sam Perkins | 7.5 | 1.71907273 | 12.89 | 0.75 |
Bailey Howell | 11 | 1899-12 | 12.55 | 0.73 |
Kawhi | 7.4 | 1.688958639 | 12.50 | 0.73 |
Marques Johnson | 7.3 | 1.660977439 | 12.13 | 0.71 |
LeBron | 7 | 1.720303785 | 12.04 | 0.70 |
Magic | 7.1 | 1.690263365 | 12.00 | 0.70 |
KD | 6.9 | 1.707259003 | 11.78 | 0.69 |
Paul George | 6.9 | 1.693052842 | 11.68 | 0.68 |
Dominique | 6.8 | 1.714266215 | 11.66 | 0.68 |
AK47 | 6.6 | 1.751564271 | 11.56 | 0.68 |
Fat Lever | 6.8 | 1.689503523 | 11.49 | 0.67 |
Pippen | 6.6 | 1.728890133 | 11.41 | 0.67 |
Grant Hill | 6.4 | 1.758647926 | 11.26 | 0.66 |
Melo | 6.5 | 1.720303785 | 11.18 | 0.65 |
Kidd | 6.3 | 1.758647926 | 11.08 | 0.65 |
Clyde Drexler | 6.4 | 1.715216689 | 10.98 | 0.64 |
T-Mac | 6.2 | 1.755577217 | 10.88 | 0.64 |
Alex English | 6.2 | 1.662725868 | 10.31 | 0.60 |
Paul Pierce | 5.9 | 1.741838188 | 10.28 | 0.60 |
MJ | 5.9 | 1.718714993 | 10.14 | 0.59 |
Chet Walker | 7.9 | 1.279321173 | 10.11 | 0.59 |
Alvin Robertson | 5.9 | 1.704961875 | 10.06 | 0.59 |
Harden | 5.8 | 1.698401849 | 9.85 | 0.58 |
Nate McMillan | 5.7 | 1.720292752 | 9.81 | 0.57 |
Jimmy | 5.8 | 1.685570163 | 9.78 | 0.57 |
Adrian Dantley | 5.8 | 1.662725868 | 9.64 | 0.56 |
Paul Arizin | 7.9 | 1.210243026 | 9.56 | 0.56 |
James Worthy | 5.6 | 1.689503523 | 9.46 | 0.55 |
Iggy | 5.5 | 1.719114764 | 9.46 | 0.55 |
Ed Macauley | 7.4 | 1.276752893 | 9.45 | 0.55 |
Sidney Moncrief | 5.6 | 1.68281356 | 9.42 | 0.55 |
Rajon Rondo | 5.5 | 1.712325389 | 9.42 | 0.55 |
Rick Barry | 6.5 | 1.436143893 | 9.33 | 0.55 |
Clifford Robinson | 5.3 | 1.742139161 | 9.23 | 0.54 |
George Gervin | 5.7 | 1.608353642 | 9.17 | 0.54 |
Kobe | 5.2 | 1.748233795 | 9.09 | 0.53 |
Vince | 5.1 | 1.729605088 | 8.82 | 0.52 |
Manu | 5 | 1.740362611 | 8.70 | 0.51 |
D Wade | 5 | 1899-12 | 8.67 | 0.51 |
Kyle Lowry | 4.9 | 1.712325389 | 8.39 | 0.49 |
Steph | 4.9 | 1.698401849 | 8.32 | 0.49 |
John Havlicek | 6.2 | 1.331426704 | 8.25 | 0.48 |
Walt Frazier | 5.6 | 1.468205153 | 8.22 | 0.48 |
Chris Paul | 4.7 | 1.717052303 | 8.07 | 0.47 |
Oscar | 6.4 | 1.221628998 | 7.82 | 0.46 |
Mullin | 4.5 | 1.720911328 | 7.74 | 0.45 |
Rod Strickland | 4.4 | 1.732456499 | 7.62 | 0.45 |
Andre Miller | 4.3 | 1.743687086 | 7.50 | 0.44 |
Eddie Jones | 4.2 | 1.757796281 | 7.38 | 0.43 |
David Thompson | 4.5 | 1.620948649 | 7.29 | 0.43 |
Mookie Blaylock | 4.2 | 1.734156106 | 7.28 | 0.43 |
Ray Allen | 4.1 | 1.754951896 | 7.20 | 0.42 |
Joe Johnson | 4.1 | 1.721754816 | 7.06 | 0.41 |
Gary Payton | 4 | 1.744304028 | 6.98 | 0.41 |
Sam Jones | 6.4 | 1.082374516 | 6.93 | 0.40 |
Dame | 4.1 | 1.679956563 | 6.89 | 0.40 |
Doc Rivers | 4 | 1.705295756 | 6.82 | 0.40 |
Kyrie | 4 | 1.685570163 | 6.74 | 0.39 |
Jeff Hornacek | 3.9 | 1.722813547 | 6.72 | 0.39 |
Terry Porter | 3.9 | 1899-12 | 6.71 | 0.39 |
D Rose | 3.8 | 1.704206075 | 6.48 | 0.38 |
Jerry West | 5.3 | 1.221628998 | 6.47 | 0.38 |
Klay | 3.8 | 1.685570163 | 6.41 | 0.37 |
Pistol Pete | 4.1 | 1.529524121 | 6.27 | 0.37 |
Terrell Brandon | 3.6 | 1.740112124 | 6.26 | 0.37 |
Bob Cousy | 5.1 | 1.189678981 | 6.07 | 0.35 |
Kevin Johnson | 3.5 | 1.726841163 | 6.04 | 0.35 |
Hal Greer | 5.1 | 1.17519398 | 5.99 | 0.35 |
Lenny Wilkens | 4.8 | 1.244221035 | 5.97 | 0.35 |
Nash | 3.4 | 1.754951896 | 5.97 | 0.35 |
IT | 3.5 | 1.689515189 | 5.91 | 0.35 |
Tim Hardaway | 3.4 | 1.734401288 | 5.90 | 0.34 |
AI | 3.3 | 1.757493639 | 5.80 | 0.34 |
Chauncey | 3.3 | 1.752988998 | 5.78 | 0.34 |
Tony Parker | 3.2 | 1899-12 | 5.55 | 0.32 |
Reggie | 3.2 | 1.730294937 | 5.54 | 0.32 |
Bill Sharman | 4.4 | 1.226682232 | 5.40 | 0.32 |
Mo Cheeks | 3.2 | 1.68047517 | 5.38 | 0.31 |
Dave Bing | 3.8 | 1.40964288 | 5.36 | 0.31 |
Stockton | 3.1 | 1.720806086 | 5.33 | 0.31 |
Mark Price | 3.1 | 1.720292752 | 5.33 | 0.31 |
Earl Monroe | 3.4 | 1.468205153 | 4.99 | 0.29 |
Jason Terry | 2.8 | 1.737999517 | 4.87 | 0.28 |
Tiny Archibald | 2.4 | 1.573967091 | 3.78 | 0.22 |
Lastly, we’ll get to rebounding percentage. Like most of the percentage stats, this is a pretty simple one. It’s just “an estimate” of the percentage of the total possible rebounds that one player grabs. In other words, it takes the context of rebound opportunities into account rather than a gross count of total rebounds without any consideration of context. We have 1.25 goat points on the line here. I won’t be adjusting for era here for similar reasons as assist percentage. The added context of the percentage stat makes the era adjustment relatively useless. We don’t need to worry about players from different eras having a different number of rebound opportunities per game when the stat is based on controlling for that variable. One last note – rebound percentage was first recorded in 1971. There are nine players with no recorded rebound percentage as a result. Rather than put them all in the middle, I’m going to use the same approach we used with assist percentage since we have some existing reference for their rebounding ability. We’ll take the average of their place (1-157) in the first two rebounding categories and then just place them there for rebounding percentage as well. It’s not a perfect replacement for an actual number, but it’s a more accurate method than the alternative halfway approach.
Player | REB % | GOAT POINTS |
Dennis Rodman | 23.4 | 1.50 |
Gobert | 21.7 | 1.39 |
Dwight | 21.1 | 1.35 |
Moses | 19.8 | 1.27 |
Bill Walton | 19.8 | 1.27 |
Bill Russell | 19.6 | 1.26 |
Wilt | 19.4 | 1.24 |
K Love | 19.3 | 1.24 |
Dikembe | 19.1 | 1.22 |
Jokic | 19 | 1.22 |
Tyson Chandler | 18.8 | 1.21 |
KAT | 18.5 | 1.19 |
Tim Duncan | 18.4 | 1.18 |
Chuck | 18.2 | 1.17 |
Artis Gilmore | 18 | 1.15 |
Wes Unseld | 18 | 1.15 |
Robert Parish | 17.9 | 1.15 |
Shaq | 17.8 | 1.14 |
David Robinson | 17.3 | 1.11 |
Hakeem | 17.2 | 1.10 |
Buck Williams | 17.2 | 1.10 |
George Mikan | 17.2 | 1.10 |
Dave Cowens | 17.1 | 1.10 |
KG | 17 | 1.09 |
Bill Laimbeer | 16.7 | 1.07 |
Nate Thurmond | 16.7 | 1.07 |
Yao | 16.5 | 1.06 |
Ewing | 16.4 | 1.05 |
AD | 16.3 | 1.04 |
Jack Sikma | 16.2 | 1.04 |
Walt Bellamy | 16.1 | 1.03 |
Karl Malone | 16 | 1.03 |
Alonzo Mourning | 15.9 | 1.02 |
Kareem | 15.7 | 1.01 |
Giannis | 15.7 | 1.01 |
Bob Pettit | 15.7 | 1.01 |
Elvin Hayes | 15.6 | 1.00 |
Bob Lanier | 15.6 | 1.00 |
Willis Reed | 15.6 | 1.00 |
Pau | 15.5 | 0.99 |
Tree Rollins | 15.5 | 0.99 |
Vlade Divac | 15.4 | 0.99 |
Jerry Lucas | 15.3 | 0.98 |
Elton Brand | 15 | 0.96 |
Zelmo Beaty | 15 | 0.96 |
Mark Eaton | 15 | 0.96 |
AC Green | 14.7 | 0.94 |
Bob McAdoo | 14.7 | 0.94 |
Otis Thorpe | 14.6 | 0.94 |
CWebb | 14.6 | 0.94 |
Larry | 14.5 | 0.93 |
Millsap | 14.5 | 0.93 |
Horford | 14.4 | 0.92 |
Shawn Marion | 14.3 | 0.92 |
Dave DeBusschere | 14.3 | 0.92 |
Blake | 14.2 | 0.91 |
Billy Cunningham | 14.2 | 0.91 |
Horace Grant | 14.1 | 0.90 |
Bosh | 14.1 | 0.90 |
Dolph Schayes | 14.1 | 0.90 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 13.8 | 0.88 |
Larry Nance | 13.6 | 0.87 |
Marc Gasol | 13.3 | 0.85 |
Dan Issel | 13.2 | 0.85 |
McHale | 13.2 | 0.85 |
Dray | 13.2 | 0.85 |
Dirk | 12.7 | 0.81 |
Bailey Howell | 12.4 | 0.79 |
Sheed Wallace | 12.1 | 0.78 |
Detlef Schrempf | 12 | 0.77 |
Dr J | 11.9 | 0.76 |
Sam Perkins | 11.9 | 0.76 |
Bobby Jones | 11.8 | 0.76 |
Russ | 11.7 | 0.75 |
Kawhi | 11.4 | 0.73 |
LeBron | 11.3 | 0.72 |
Marques Johnson | 11.2 | 0.72 |
Magic | 11.1 | 0.71 |
AK47 | 11 | 0.71 |
KD | 10.8 | 0.69 |
Pippen | 10.6 | 0.68 |
Grant Hill | 10.5 | 0.67 |
Paul George | 10.5 | 0.67 |
Dominique | 10.4 | 0.67 |
Elgin Baylor | 10.2 | 0.65 |
Melo | 10.1 | 0.65 |
Fat Lever | 10.1 | 0.65 |
Kidd | 10 | 0.64 |
Clyde Drexler | 9.9 | 0.63 |
T-Mac | 9.8 | 0.63 |
Paul Pierce | 9.6 | 0.62 |
MJ | 9.4 | 0.60 |
Alvin Robertson | 9.4 | 0.60 |
Nate McMillan | 9.1 | 0.58 |
Harden | 9 | 0.58 |
Alex English | 9 | 0.58 |
Jimmy | 8.9 | 0.57 |
James Worthy | 8.9 | 0.57 |
Paul Arizin | 8.9 | 0.57 |
Chet Walker | 8.7 | 0.56 |
Iggy | 8.7 | 0.56 |
Rajon Rondo | 8.7 | 0.56 |
Adrian Dantley | 8.6 | 0.55 |
Sidney Moncrief | 8.6 | 0.55 |
Ed Macauley | 8.6 | 0.55 |
Clifford Robinson | 8.4 | 0.54 |
Vince | 8.2 | 0.53 |
George Gervin | 8.2 | 0.53 |
Kobe | 8.1 | 0.52 |
D Wade | 8.1 | 0.52 |
Rick Barry | 8 | 0.51 |
Manu | 8 | 0.51 |
Kyle Lowry | 7.8 | 0.50 |
Walt Frazier | 7.6 | 0.49 |
Chris Paul | 7.5 | 0.48 |
John Havlicek | 7.4 | 0.47 |
Steph | 7.4 | 0.47 |
Andre Miller | 6.9 | 0.44 |
Mullin | 6.9 | 0.44 |
Rod Strickland | 6.9 | 0.44 |
Ray Allen | 6.8 | 0.44 |
Eddie Jones | 6.8 | 0.44 |
Mookie Blaylock | 6.6 | 0.42 |
Joe Johnson | 6.6 | 0.42 |
Gary Payton | 6.5 | 0.42 |
David Thompson | 6.5 | 0.42 |
Oscar | 6.4 | 0.41 |
Dame | 6.3 | 0.40 |
Jeff Hornacek | 6.2 | 0.40 |
Kyrie | 6.2 | 0.40 |
Doc Rivers | 6.2 | 0.40 |
Terry Porter | 6.1 | 0.39 |
Terrell Brandon | 6.1 | 0.39 |
D Rose | 5.8 | 0.37 |
Klay | 5.8 | 0.37 |
Lenny Wilkens | 5.5 | 0.35 |
Pistol Pete | 5.5 | 0.35 |
Nash | 5.4 | 0.35 |
Kevin Johnson | 5.4 | 0.35 |
Chauncey | 5.3 | 0.34 |
Hal Greer | 5.3 | 0.34 |
IT | 5.3 | 0.34 |
Tim Hardaway | 5.3 | 0.34 |
Bob Cousy | 5.3 | 0.34 |
Sam Jones | 5.3 | 0.34 |
Reggie | 5.1 | 0.33 |
Jerry West | 5.1 | 0.33 |
Tony Parker | 5.1 | 0.33 |
AI | 5.1 | 0.33 |
Stockton | 5 | 0.32 |
Mo Cheeks | 4.9 | 0.31 |
Mark Price | 4.9 | 0.31 |
Bill Sharman | 4.9 | 0.31 |
Dave Bing | 4.7 | 0.30 |
Jason Terry | 4.5 | 0.29 |
Earl Monroe | 4.4 | 0.28 |
Tiny Archibald | 3.4 | 0.22 |
And that’s all we’ve got for rebounds. The cumulative rebound leaderboard is here –
Player | GOAT POINTS |
Dennis Rodman | 4.87 |
Wilt | 4.74 |
Bill Russell | 4.51 |
Gobert | 4.38 |
Dwight | 4.37 |
Moses | 4.25 |
Wes Unseld | 4.13 |
Chuck | 3.99 |
K Love | 3.98 |
Dave Cowens | 3.98 |
Bill Walton | 3.98 |
Artis Gilmore | 3.96 |
Dikembe | 3.96 |
Tim Duncan | 3.92 |
KAT | 3.90 |
Shaq | 3.88 |
Nate Thurmond | 3.86 |
Jokic | 3.85 |
Hakeem | 3.81 |
George Mikan | 3.76 |
David Robinson | 3.75 |
Jerry Lucas | 3.70 |
Tyson Chandler | 3.70 |
Elvin Hayes | 3.66 |
Buck Williams | 3.62 |
KG | 3.61 |
Robert Parish | 3.56 |
AD | 3.52 |
Bill Laimbeer | 3.52 |
Kareem | 3.50 |
Ewing | 3.49 |
Bob Pettit | 3.46 |
Karl Malone | 3.46 |
Yao | 3.46 |
Walt Bellamy | 3.44 |
Jack Sikma | 3.42 |
Willis Reed | 3.36 |
CWebb | 3.34 |
Giannis | 3.33 |
Bob Lanier | 3.32 |
Pau | 3.32 |
Alonzo Mourning | 3.27 |
Larry | 3.25 |
Vlade Divac | 3.17 |
Bob McAdoo | 3.16 |
Elton Brand | 3.14 |
Shawn Marion | 3.11 |
Otis Thorpe | 3.05 |
Mark Eaton | 3.04 |
Bosh | 3.02 |
Horford | 2.99 |
Zelmo Beaty | 2.97 |
Dolph Schayes | 2.96 |
Horace Grant | 2.95 |
Blake | 2.95 |
AC Green | 2.93 |
Billy Cunningham | 2.93 |
Dan Issel | 2.92 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 2.91 |
Dave DeBusschere | 2.88 |
Millsap | 2.85 |
Larry Nance | 2.84 |
Tree Rollins | 2.79 |
Elgin Baylor | 2.77 |
Marc Gasol | 2.73 |
Dirk | 2.71 |
McHale | 2.71 |
Dr J | 2.68 |
Dray | 2.67 |
Russ | 2.56 |
Sheed Wallace | 2.51 |
LeBron | 2.50 |
Bailey Howell | 2.46 |
Magic | 2.42 |
Detlef Schrempf | 2.41 |
Marques Johnson | 2.39 |
KD | 2.39 |
Sam Perkins | 2.37 |
Kawhi | 2.36 |
Bobby Jones | 2.34 |
Dominique | 2.30 |
Pippen | 2.26 |
Paul George | 2.25 |
Kidd | 2.21 |
Grant Hill | 2.21 |
Melo | 2.19 |
AK47 | 2.18 |
Fat Lever | 2.16 |
Clyde Drexler | 2.14 |
T-Mac | 2.08 |
MJ | 2.08 |
Paul Pierce | 2.03 |
Paul Arizin | 1.99 |
Harden | 1.94 |
Alex English | 1.94 |
Alvin Robertson | 1.93 |
Chet Walker | 1.90 |
Adrian Dantley | 1.90 |
Ed Macauley | 1.90 |
Jimmy | 1.88 |
Rick Barry | 1.86 |
James Worthy | 1.84 |
Iggy | 1.81 |
Kobe | 1.80 |
George Gervin | 1.77 |
Sidney Moncrief | 1.76 |
Rajon Rondo | 1.75 |
Clifford Robinson | 1.74 |
Nate McMillan | 1.73 |
D Wade | 1.70 |
Walt Frazier | 1.69 |
Vince | 1.66 |
John Havlicek | 1.65 |
Oscar | 1.63 |
Kyle Lowry | 1.62 |
Steph | 1.61 |
Chris Paul | 1.59 |
Manu | 1.53 |
Mullin | 1.48 |
Ray Allen | 1.45 |
Eddie Jones | 1.45 |
Mookie Blaylock | 1.44 |
Rod Strickland | 1.42 |
Andre Miller | 1.42 |
Joe Johnson | 1.41 |
David Thompson | 1.39 |
Dame | 1.39 |
Gary Payton | 1.39 |
Kyrie | 1.32 |
Jerry West | 1.29 |
Jeff Hornacek | 1.28 |
Pistol Pete | 1.25 |
Klay | 1.24 |
Doc Rivers | 1.22 |
D Rose | 1.22 |
Terry Porter | 1.21 |
Bob Cousy | 1.21 |
AI | 1.21 |
Terrell Brandon | 1.19 |
IT | 1.19 |
Lenny Wilkens | 1.19 |
Sam Jones | 1.18 |
Hal Greer | 1.18 |
Kevin Johnson | 1.17 |
Tim Hardaway | 1.16 |
Nash | 1.13 |
Chauncey | 1.10 |
Reggie | 1.08 |
Dave Bing | 1.06 |
Tony Parker | 1.04 |
Bill Sharman | 1.03 |
Mo Cheeks | 1.02 |
Stockton | 1.02 |
Mark Price | 1.00 |
Earl Monroe | 0.94 |
Jason Terry | 0.90 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.74 |
And then the new overall leaderboard after our first three categories –
Player | TOTAL GOAT POINTS |
Wilt | 14.31 |
Larry | 13.85 |
Jokic | 13.59 |
LeBron | 13.57 |
Magic | 13.33 |
George Mikan | 13.15 |
Chuck | 13.07 |
KAT | 12.97 |
Russ | 12.89 |
Harden | 12.79 |
MJ | 12.76 |
Steph | 12.61 |
KD | 12.60 |
Giannis | 12.56 |
Bob Pettit | 12.55 |
Karl Malone | 12.54 |
Chris Paul | 12.47 |
K Love | 12.28 |
AD | 12.25 |
Shaq | 12.24 |
Oscar | 12.13 |
David Robinson | 12.08 |
Dame | 11.98 |
Bill Russell | 11.98 |
CWebb | 11.95 |
Tim Duncan | 11.89 |
KG | 11.88 |
Kobe | 11.88 |
Elgin Baylor | 11.87 |
Dirk | 11.78 |
Blake | 11.74 |
Kareem | 11.72 |
Dr J | 11.71 |
Rick Barry | 11.67 |
Clyde Drexler | 11.66 |
Hakeem | 11.65 |
Stockton | 11.64 |
AI | 11.61 |
Kidd | 11.59 |
Nash | 11.57 |
Tim Hardaway | 11.53 |
Walt Bellamy | 11.52 |
Pau | 11.51 |
Kyrie | 11.49 |
T-Mac | 11.48 |
Billy Cunningham | 11.47 |
Jerry Lucas | 11.46 |
Dwight | 11.44 |
Jerry West | 11.37 |
Artis Gilmore | 11.36 |
Dominique | 11.36 |
Dolph Schayes | 11.35 |
Kevin Johnson | 11.31 |
Kawhi | 11.30 |
Jack Sikma | 11.29 |
Moses | 11.26 |
D Wade | 11.22 |
Bob Lanier | 11.19 |
Paul George | 11.16 |
Bosh | 11.11 |
Paul Pierce | 11.11 |
Yao | 11.08 |
Dan Issel | 11.06 |
IT | 11.05 |
Wes Unseld | 11.02 |
Mark Price | 11.01 |
Dave Cowens | 10.97 |
Melo | 10.97 |
Ewing | 10.96 |
Willis Reed | 10.93 |
Gobert | 10.92 |
Horford | 10.91 |
Nate Thurmond | 10.91 |
Pippen | 10.88 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 10.84 |
Bill Laimbeer | 10.82 |
Kyle Lowry | 10.82 |
Elvin Hayes | 10.80 |
Gary Payton | 10.77 |
Paul Arizin | 10.77 |
Ray Allen | 10.74 |
Bob McAdoo | 10.72 |
Jimmy | 10.71 |
Shawn Marion | 10.68 |
Dennis Rodman | 10.67 |
Chauncey | 10.67 |
George Gervin | 10.67 |
Fat Lever | 10.66 |
Pistol Pete | 10.65 |
Detlef Schrempf | 10.62 |
Grant Hill | 10.61 |
Ed Macauley | 10.59 |
Alonzo Mourning | 10.54 |
Marc Gasol | 10.50 |
Bob Cousy | 10.50 |
Bill Walton | 10.49 |
Reggie | 10.48 |
Adrian Dantley | 10.43 |
Mookie Blaylock | 10.40 |
Mullin | 10.38 |
McHale | 10.37 |
Jeff Hornacek | 10.36 |
Marques Johnson | 10.35 |
Bailey Howell | 10.30 |
Terrell Brandon | 10.30 |
Alex English | 10.30 |
Terry Porter | 10.29 |
Vince | 10.28 |
Larry Nance | 10.25 |
Rod Strickland | 10.25 |
Millsap | 10.25 |
David Thompson | 10.24 |
Vlade Divac | 10.23 |
John Havlicek | 10.21 |
D Rose | 10.18 |
Elton Brand | 10.17 |
Manu | 10.17 |
Dave DeBusschere | 10.15 |
Rajon Rondo | 10.13 |
Dray | 10.12 |
Sheed Wallace | 10.06 |
Sidney Moncrief | 10.00 |
Tony Parker | 9.98 |
Tiny Archibald | 9.98 |
Dave Bing | 9.95 |
Buck Williams | 9.94 |
Andre Miller | 9.91 |
Klay | 9.91 |
Lenny Wilkens | 9.88 |
Zelmo Beaty | 9.87 |
Alvin Robertson | 9.85 |
Eddie Jones | 9.84 |
Sam Perkins | 9.79 |
Joe Johnson | 9.79 |
Robert Parish | 9.78 |
Chet Walker | 9.74 |
Otis Thorpe | 9.67 |
James Worthy | 9.67 |
Doc Rivers | 9.64 |
Walt Frazier | 9.63 |
AK47 | 9.60 |
Bill Sharman | 9.57 |
Iggy | 9.54 |
Horace Grant | 9.51 |
Dikembe | 9.51 |
Jason Terry | 9.40 |
Hal Greer | 9.39 |
AC Green | 9.34 |
Mo Cheeks | 9.34 |
Nate McMillan | 9.34 |
Clifford Robinson | 9.32 |
Tyson Chandler | 9.31 |
Sam Jones | 9.13 |
Bobby Jones | 8.91 |
Earl Monroe | 8.26 |
Tree Rollins | 7.77 |
Mark Eaton | 7.51 |
With rebounding, a lot of the expected names that were a little behind early have jumped back into the fold. Some big names outside of the top 50 still – Moses Malone (56), Dwyane Wade (57), Scottie Pippen (75), Reggie Miller (97), Vince Carter (108), John Havlicek (114), Klay Thompson (128). Up next, we have steals and blocks. I will do them as their two separate categories but will wait until we’re through both to do another cumulative leaderboard. With that, let’s get to it.
Steals (2)
We’ll go with 2 points for steals. There are few statistics to look at here, which plays a role. We only have steals per game and per 36 and then steal percentage as cross-era, useable stats. But the main reason that steals are only getting two points rather than four or five is their diminished volume. There just aren’t too many possessions that end in a steal, which devalues the importance of a skill for stealing the basketball versus scoring, passing, or rebounding it. The basic idea – I can be two times better than everyone else at something, but the difference between 2 steals and 1 is much smaller in terms of ultimate in-game impact than the difference between 10 and 5 rebounds or 30 and 15 points. There is some interesting discussion out there of how exactly to weigh the various stats – some would say, for example, that the ability of a steal to launch an easier fast break possession is worth taking into account in matters of comparative value – but I feel comfortable with the 2:5:10 value ratio that we have going here.
Subcategories:
- Pure Volume (1.5) – Steals per game (1), Steals per 36 (0.5)
- Percentages (0.5) – Steal percentage (0.5)
Let’s start with steals per game. I’ll adjust for era like we’ve been doing. The steal is another stat that doesn’t exist until 1974, so we will have to go with the typical “put everyone that played half or more of their career by 1974 in the middle” method. There’s just no way to accurately predict where those guys stand without any numbers to go off of, even if we could sit here and say “this guard probably had a decent amount of steals” or “this center probably didn’t steal the ball very often”.
Player | SPG | Multiplier | EA SPG | GOAT POINTS |
Alvin Robertson | 2.7 | 1.154525961 | 3.12 | 1.00 |
AI | 2.2 | 1.287124565 | 2.83 | 0.91 |
Chris Paul | 2.1 | 1.315944261 | 2.76 | 0.89 |
Mookie Blaylock | 2.3 | 1.193608532 | 2.75 | 0.88 |
MJ | 2.3 | 1.176682387 | 2.71 | 0.87 |
Stockton | 2.2 | 1.182292743 | 2.60 | 0.83 |
Fat Lever | 2.2 | 1.141758823 | 2.51 | 0.81 |
Kidd | 1.9 | 1.282164444 | 2.44 | 0.78 |
Pippen | 2 | 1.192697529 | 2.39 | 0.76 |
Mo Cheeks | 2.1 | 1.132970386 | 2.38 | 0.76 |
Clyde Drexler | 2 | 1.160327061 | 2.32 | 0.74 |
Kawhi | 1.8 | 1.28749277 | 2.32 | 0.74 |
Russ | 1.7 | 1.304634861 | 2.22 | 0.71 |
Gary Payton | 1.8 | 1.231090244 | 2.22 | 0.71 |
Steph | 1.7 | 1.300671051 | 2.21 | 0.71 |
Nate McMillan | 1.9 | 1.162541179 | 2.21 | 0.71 |
Dr J | 2 | 1.104343073 | 2.21 | 0.71 |
Paul George | 1.7 | 1.294476972 | 2.20 | 0.71 |
IT | 1.9 | 1.143523982 | 2.17 | 0.70 |
Magic | 1.9 | 1.141678317 | 2.17 | 0.70 |
Eddie Jones | 1.7 | 1.265632186 | 2.15 | 0.69 |
LeBron | 1.6 | 1.312853526 | 2.10 | 0.67 |
Rajon Rondo | 1.6 | 1.312253277 | 2.10 | 0.67 |
Doc Rivers | 1.8 | 1.155309032 | 2.08 | 0.67 |
Walt Frazier | 1.9 | 1.085833665 | 2.06 | 0.66 |
Jimmy | 1.6 | 1.288869026 | 2.06 | 0.66 |
Hakeem | 1.7 | 1.17835542 | 2.00 | 0.64 |
D Wade | 1.5 | 1899-12 | 1.97 | 0.63 |
Shawn Marion | 1.5 | 1.308613874 | 1.96 | 0.63 |
Harden | 1.5 | 1.300671051 | 1.95 | 0.63 |
Larry | 1.7 | 1.135036993 | 1.93 | 0.62 |
Terrell Brandon | 1.6 | 1.200094749 | 1.92 | 0.62 |
Tim Hardaway | 1.6 | 1.197862534 | 1.92 | 0.61 |
Mullin | 1.6 | 1.173528807 | 1.88 | 0.60 |
Iggy | 1.4 | 1.31616958 | 1.84 | 0.59 |
AK47 | 1.4 | 1.315387619 | 1.84 | 0.59 |
AD | 1.4 | 1.2891845 | 1.80 | 0.58 |
Dray | 1.4 | 1.2891845 | 1.80 | 0.58 |
Kobe | 1.4 | 1.288575634 | 1.80 | 0.58 |
Rod Strickland | 1.5 | 1.201832477 | 1.80 | 0.58 |
CWebb | 1.4 | 1.255414011 | 1.76 | 0.56 |
Kevin Johnson | 1.5 | 1.171620565 | 1.76 | 0.56 |
Chuck | 1.5 | 1.166996001 | 1.75 | 0.56 |
Kyle Lowry | 1.3 | 1.312253277 | 1.71 | 0.55 |
Manu | 1.3 | 1.311678452 | 1.71 | 0.55 |
Paul Pierce | 1.3 | 1.298491498 | 1.69 | 0.54 |
David Robinson | 1.4 | 1.197862534 | 1.68 | 0.54 |
Kyrie | 1.3 | 1.288869026 | 1.68 | 0.54 |
KG | 1.3 | 1.286143461 | 1.67 | 0.54 |
Karl Malone | 1.4 | 1.186948463 | 1.66 | 0.53 |
Bobby Jones | 1.5 | 1.095411196 | 1.64 | 0.53 |
Jeff Hornacek | 1.4 | 1.170159296 | 1.64 | 0.53 |
Millsap | 1.2 | 1.312253277 | 1.57 | 0.50 |
Andre Miller | 1.2 | 1.306297221 | 1.57 | 0.50 |
T-Mac | 1.2 | 1.2969537 | 1.56 | 0.50 |
Jokic | 1.2 | 1.293026522 | 1.55 | 0.50 |
Giannis | 1.2 | 1.291401581 | 1.55 | 0.50 |
Grant Hill | 1.2 | 1.282164444 | 1.54 | 0.49 |
Dominique | 1.3 | 1.158578641 | 1.51 | 0.48 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Pistol Pete | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Earl Monroe | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Tiny Archibald | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 1.5 | 0.48 | |
Marques Johnson | 1.3 | 1.115499357 | 1.45 | 0.46 |
KD | 1.1 | 1.308070162 | 1.44 | 0.46 |
Jason Terry | 1.1 | 1.304130596 | 1.43 | 0.46 |
Ray Allen | 1.1 | 1.289809313 | 1.42 | 0.45 |
Terry Porter | 1.2 | 1899-12 | 1.41 | 0.45 |
Mark Price | 1.2 | 1.162541179 | 1.40 | 0.45 |
Sidney Moncrief | 1.2 | 1.133693177 | 1.36 | 0.44 |
Vlade Divac | 1.1 | 1.208952502 | 1.33 | 0.43 |
George Gervin | 1.2 | 1.100741557 | 1.32 | 0.42 |
Reggie | 1.1 | 1.199769889 | 1.32 | 0.42 |
Melo | 1 | 1.312853526 | 1.31 | 0.42 |
Vince | 1 | 1.298287087 | 1.30 | 0.42 |
Chauncey | 1 | 1.294661798 | 1.29 | 0.41 |
Dame | 1 | 1.2891845 | 1.29 | 0.41 |
Sheed Wallace | 1 | 1.287130741 | 1.29 | 0.41 |
James Worthy | 1.1 | 1.141758823 | 1.26 | 0.40 |
Clifford Robinson | 1 | 1.227402224 | 1.23 | 0.39 |
Bob Lanier | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.21 | 0.39 |
Dave Cowens | 1.1 | 1.0891494 | 1.20 | 0.38 |
Wes Unseld | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.20 | 0.38 |
Horace Grant | 1 | 1899-12 | 1.19 | 0.38 |
Dwight | 0.9 | 1.31616958 | 1.18 | 0.38 |
Ewing | 1 | 1.179158334 | 1.18 | 0.38 |
Elton Brand | 0.9 | 1899-12 | 1.18 | 0.38 |
Marc Gasol | 0.9 | 1.304788959 | 1.17 | 0.38 |
Klay | 0.9 | 1.288869026 | 1.16 | 0.37 |
Jack Sikma | 1 | 1899-12 | 1.12 | 0.36 |
Adrian Dantley | 1 | 1.11844478 | 1.12 | 0.36 |
Bob McAdoo | 1 | 1.110177911 | 1.11 | 0.36 |
Elvin Hayes | 1 | 1.103873361 | 1.10 | 0.35 |
Dan Issel | 1 | 1.09872002 | 1.10 | 0.35 |
David Thompson | 1 | 1.085257376 | 1.09 | 0.35 |
Bosh | 0.8 | 1.320174008 | 1.06 | 0.34 |
Sam Perkins | 0.9 | 1.173009811 | 1.06 | 0.34 |
Tony Parker | 0.8 | 1899-12 | 1.05 | 0.34 |
Horford | 0.8 | 1.308070162 | 1.05 | 0.34 |
Joe Johnson | 0.8 | 1.30793392 | 1.05 | 0.34 |
D Rose | 0.8 | 1.304634861 | 1.04 | 0.33 |
Dirk | 0.8 | 1.298080206 | 1.04 | 0.33 |
Blake | 0.8 | 1.294476972 | 1.04 | 0.33 |
KAT | 0.8 | 1.293026522 | 1.03 | 0.33 |
Larry Nance | 0.9 | 1.143523982 | 1.03 | 0.33 |
Alex English | 0.9 | 1.11844478 | 1.01 | 0.32 |
Kareem | 0.9 | 1.114755851 | 1.00 | 0.32 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.8 | 1.173528807 | 0.94 | 0.30 |
AC Green | 0.8 | 1.173528807 | 0.94 | 0.30 |
Buck Williams | 0.8 | 1.157763021 | 0.93 | 0.30 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.7 | 1899-12 | 0.92 | 0.29 |
K Love | 0.7 | 1.304634861 | 0.91 | 0.29 |
Robert Parish | 0.8 | 1.134711666 | 0.91 | 0.29 |
Tim Duncan | 0.7 | 1.292852401 | 0.90 | 0.29 |
Gobert | 0.7 | 1.291401581 | 0.90 | 0.29 |
Nash | 0.7 | 1.289809313 | 0.90 | 0.29 |
Moses | 0.8 | 1.125480417 | 0.90 | 0.29 |
Bill Walton | 0.8 | 1.111195739 | 0.89 | 0.28 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.7 | 1.173009811 | 0.82 | 0.26 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.7 | 1.170159296 | 0.82 | 0.26 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.7 | 1.140415126 | 0.80 | 0.26 |
Shaq | 0.6 | 1.266826406 | 0.76 | 0.24 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.6 | 1.108367261 | 0.67 | 0.21 |
Pau | 0.5 | 1.308817643 | 0.65 | 0.21 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.5 | 1.308492061 | 0.65 | 0.21 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.5 | 1.248898309 | 0.62 | 0.20 |
Yao | 0.4 | 1.335535807 | 0.53 | 0.17 |
Dikembe | 0.4 | 1.249427785 | 0.50 | 0.16 |
Mark Eaton | 0.4 | 1.144431485 | 0.46 | 0.15 |
McHale | 0.4 | 1.142573247 | 0.46 | 0.15 |
Tree Rollins | 0.4 | 1.129496468 | 0.45 | 0.14 |
We can then do the same for steals per 36 with 0.5 goat points up for grabs.
Player | SP36 | Multiplier | EA SP36 | GOAT POINTS |
Alvin Robertson | 3.1 | 1.154525961 | 3.58 | 0.50 |
Nate McMillan | 2.7 | 1.162541179 | 3.14 | 0.44 |
Stockton | 2.5 | 1.182292743 | 2.96 | 0.41 |
Chris Paul | 2.2 | 1.315944261 | 2.90 | 0.40 |
Mookie Blaylock | 2.4 | 1.193608532 | 2.86 | 0.40 |
Fat Lever | 2.5 | 1.141758823 | 2.85 | 0.40 |
Doc Rivers | 2.4 | 1.155309032 | 2.77 | 0.39 |
Mo Cheeks | 2.4 | 1.132970386 | 2.72 | 0.38 |
MJ | 2.2 | 1.176682387 | 2.59 | 0.36 |
Kawhi | 2 | 1.28749277 | 2.57 | 0.36 |
Rajon Rondo | 1.9 | 1.312253277 | 2.49 | 0.35 |
Manu | 1.9 | 1.311678452 | 2.49 | 0.35 |
AI | 1.9 | 1.287124565 | 2.45 | 0.34 |
Clyde Drexler | 2.1 | 1.160327061 | 2.44 | 0.34 |
Kidd | 1.9 | 1.282164444 | 2.44 | 0.34 |
Pippen | 2 | 1.192697529 | 2.39 | 0.33 |
Gary Payton | 1.9 | 1.231090244 | 2.34 | 0.33 |
Paul George | 1.8 | 1.294476972 | 2.33 | 0.33 |
Dray | 1.8 | 1.2891845 | 2.32 | 0.32 |
Jimmy | 1.8 | 1.288869026 | 2.32 | 0.32 |
Terrell Brandon | 1.9 | 1.200094749 | 2.28 | 0.32 |
Eddie Jones | 1.8 | 1.265632186 | 2.28 | 0.32 |
AK47 | 1.7 | 1.315387619 | 2.24 | 0.31 |
Russ | 1.7 | 1.304634861 | 2.22 | 0.31 |
Steph | 1.7 | 1.300671051 | 2.21 | 0.31 |
Dr J | 2 | 1.104343073 | 2.21 | 0.31 |
IT | 1.9 | 1.143523982 | 2.17 | 0.30 |
Magic | 1.9 | 1.141678317 | 2.17 | 0.30 |
Hakeem | 1.8 | 1.17835542 | 2.12 | 0.30 |
Iggy | 1.6 | 1.31616958 | 2.11 | 0.29 |
D Wade | 1.6 | 1899-12 | 2.10 | 0.29 |
Millsap | 1.6 | 1.312253277 | 2.10 | 0.29 |
Shawn Marion | 1.6 | 1.308613874 | 2.09 | 0.29 |
Bobby Jones | 1.9 | 1.095411196 | 2.08 | 0.29 |
Harden | 1.6 | 1.300671051 | 2.08 | 0.29 |
Rod Strickland | 1.7 | 1.201832477 | 2.04 | 0.29 |
Tim Hardaway | 1.7 | 1.197862534 | 2.04 | 0.28 |
Mullin | 1.7 | 1.173528807 | 1.99 | 0.28 |
LeBron | 1.5 | 1.312853526 | 1.97 | 0.28 |
Kyle Lowry | 1.5 | 1.312253277 | 1.97 | 0.27 |
Walt Frazier | 1.8 | 1.085833665 | 1.95 | 0.27 |
Terry Porter | 1.6 | 1899-12 | 1.89 | 0.26 |
Kevin Johnson | 1.6 | 1.171620565 | 1.87 | 0.26 |
Jeff Hornacek | 1.6 | 1.170159296 | 1.87 | 0.26 |
Andre Miller | 1.4 | 1.306297221 | 1.83 | 0.26 |
Jason Terry | 1.4 | 1.304130596 | 1.83 | 0.25 |
Paul Pierce | 1.4 | 1.298491498 | 1.82 | 0.25 |
Larry | 1.6 | 1.135036993 | 1.82 | 0.25 |
Jokic | 1.4 | 1.293026522 | 1.81 | 0.25 |
AD | 1.4 | 1.2891845 | 1.80 | 0.25 |
Kyrie | 1.4 | 1.288869026 | 1.80 | 0.25 |
Kobe | 1.4 | 1.288575634 | 1.80 | 0.25 |
David Robinson | 1.5 | 1.197862534 | 1.80 | 0.25 |
CWebb | 1.4 | 1.255414011 | 1.76 | 0.25 |
Chuck | 1.5 | 1.166996001 | 1.75 | 0.24 |
Vlade Divac | 1.4 | 1.208952502 | 1.69 | 0.24 |
T-Mac | 1.3 | 1.2969537 | 1.69 | 0.24 |
Giannis | 1.3 | 1.291401581 | 1.68 | 0.23 |
KG | 1.3 | 1.286143461 | 1.67 | 0.23 |
Grant Hill | 1.3 | 1.282164444 | 1.67 | 0.23 |
Karl Malone | 1.4 | 1.186948463 | 1.66 | 0.23 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Earl Monroe | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Tiny Archibald | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 1.64 | 0.23 | |
Mark Price | 1.4 | 1.162541179 | 1.63 | 0.23 |
Sidney Moncrief | 1.4 | 1.133693177 | 1.59 | 0.22 |
Vince | 1.2 | 1.298287087 | 1.56 | 0.22 |
Dominique | 1.3 | 1.158578641 | 1.51 | 0.21 |
Clifford Robinson | 1.2 | 1.227402224 | 1.47 | 0.21 |
Marques Johnson | 1.3 | 1.115499357 | 1.45 | 0.20 |
KD | 1.1 | 1.308070162 | 1.44 | 0.20 |
George Gervin | 1.3 | 1.105308176 | 1.44 | 0.20 |
Chauncey | 1.1 | 1.294661798 | 1.42 | 0.20 |
Ray Allen | 1.1 | 1.289809313 | 1.42 | 0.20 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.1 | 1.287130741 | 1.42 | 0.20 |
Pistol Pete | 1.3 | 1.085833665 | 1.41 | 0.20 |
James Worthy | 1.2 | 1.141758823 | 1.37 | 0.19 |
Bob Lanier | 1.2 | 1899-12 | 1.32 | 0.19 |
Reggie | 1.1 | 1.199769889 | 1.32 | 0.18 |
Dwight | 1 | 1.31616958 | 1.32 | 0.18 |
Melo | 1 | 1.312853526 | 1.31 | 0.18 |
Horace Grant | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.31 | 0.18 |
Tony Parker | 1 | 1899-12 | 1.31 | 0.18 |
Elton Brand | 1 | 1899-12 | 1.31 | 0.18 |
Marc Gasol | 1 | 1.304788959 | 1.30 | 0.18 |
Sam Perkins | 1.1 | 1.173009811 | 1.29 | 0.18 |
Dame | 1 | 1.2891845 | 1.29 | 0.18 |
Klay | 1 | 1.288869026 | 1.29 | 0.18 |
Jack Sikma | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.24 | 0.17 |
Dan Issel | 1.1 | 1.09872002 | 1.21 | 0.17 |
Dave Cowens | 1.1 | 1.0891494 | 1.20 | 0.17 |
Wes Unseld | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.20 | 0.17 |
David Thompson | 1.1 | 1.085257376 | 1.19 | 0.17 |
Ewing | 1 | 1.179158334 | 1.18 | 0.16 |
Horford | 0.9 | 1.308070162 | 1.18 | 0.16 |
Joe Johnson | 0.9 | 1.30793392 | 1.18 | 0.16 |
D Rose | 0.9 | 1.304634861 | 1.17 | 0.16 |
AC Green | 1 | 1.173528807 | 1.17 | 0.16 |
Blake | 0.9 | 1.294476972 | 1.17 | 0.16 |
KAT | 0.9 | 1.293026522 | 1.16 | 0.16 |
Nash | 0.9 | 1.289809313 | 1.16 | 0.16 |
Larry Nance | 1 | 1.143523982 | 1.14 | 0.16 |
Robert Parish | 1 | 1.134711666 | 1.13 | 0.16 |
Adrian Dantley | 1 | 1.11844478 | 1.12 | 0.16 |
Alex English | 1 | 1.11844478 | 1.12 | 0.16 |
Kareem | 1 | 1.114755851 | 1.11 | 0.16 |
Bill Walton | 1 | 1.111195739 | 1.11 | 0.16 |
Bob McAdoo | 1 | 1.110177911 | 1.11 | 0.16 |
Elvin Hayes | 1 | 1.103873361 | 1.10 | 0.15 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.9 | 1.173528807 | 1.06 | 0.15 |
Bosh | 0.8 | 1.320174008 | 1.06 | 0.15 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.8 | 1899-12 | 1.05 | 0.15 |
K Love | 0.8 | 1.304634861 | 1.04 | 0.15 |
Buck Williams | 0.9 | 1.157763021 | 1.04 | 0.15 |
Dirk | 0.8 | 1.298080206 | 1.04 | 0.15 |
Tim Duncan | 0.8 | 1.292852401 | 1.03 | 0.14 |
Gobert | 0.8 | 1.291401581 | 1.03 | 0.14 |
Moses | 0.9 | 1.125480417 | 1.01 | 0.14 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.8 | 1.173009811 | 0.94 | 0.13 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.8 | 1.170159296 | 0.94 | 0.13 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.7 | 1.308492061 | 0.92 | 0.13 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.8 | 1.140415126 | 0.91 | 0.13 |
Tree Rollins | 0.8 | 1.129496468 | 0.90 | 0.13 |
Shaq | 0.6 | 1.266826406 | 0.76 | 0.11 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.6 | 1.248898309 | 0.75 | 0.10 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.6 | 1.108367261 | 0.67 | 0.09 |
Pau | 0.5 | 1.308817643 | 0.65 | 0.09 |
Dikembe | 0.5 | 1.249427785 | 0.62 | 0.09 |
Mark Eaton | 0.5 | 1.144431485 | 0.57 | 0.08 |
Yao | 0.4 | 1.335535807 | 0.53 | 0.07 |
McHale | 0.4 | 1.142573247 | 0.46 | 0.06 |
We can then finish with steal percentage. This is again an estimate, and it attempts to measure the percentage of defensive possessions that any given player from the defensive team grabs a steal on (while they are on the floor and not across the game as a whole). The numbers are obviously going to be pretty low here since there aren’t that many possessions that end in a steal during a game, never mind a steal by one specific player. There are 0.5 goat points on the line here too. I am going to adjust for era here since this is steals out of total possessions rather than steals out of total steals. So we’ll adjust using league average steals year by year, and we can figure that using just steals is a pretty decent way to adjust for those differences in era. The cutoff year remains the same at 1974.
Player | STL % | Multiplier | EA STL % | GOAT POINTS |
Alvin Robertson | 4.1 | 1.154525961 | 4.73 | 0.50 |
Nate McMillan | 3.7 | 1.162541179 | 4.30 | 0.45 |
Chris Paul | 3.2 | 1.315944261 | 4.21 | 0.45 |
Mookie Blaylock | 3.5 | 1.193608532 | 4.18 | 0.44 |
Stockton | 3.5 | 1.182292743 | 4.14 | 0.44 |
Doc Rivers | 3.3 | 1.155309032 | 3.81 | 0.40 |
Fat Lever | 3.2 | 1.141758823 | 3.65 | 0.39 |
MJ | 3.1 | 1.176682387 | 3.65 | 0.39 |
Mo Cheeks | 3.2 | 1.132970386 | 3.63 | 0.38 |
Kawhi | 2.8 | 1.28749277 | 3.60 | 0.38 |
Kidd | 2.8 | 1.282164444 | 3.59 | 0.38 |
Rajon Rondo | 2.7 | 1.312253277 | 3.54 | 0.37 |
Manu | 2.7 | 1.311678452 | 3.54 | 0.37 |
Terrell Brandon | 2.9 | 1.200094749 | 3.48 | 0.37 |
AI | 2.7 | 1.287124565 | 3.48 | 0.37 |
Pippen | 2.9 | 1.192697529 | 3.46 | 0.37 |
Paul George | 2.6 | 1.294476972 | 3.37 | 0.36 |
Gary Payton | 2.7 | 1.231090244 | 3.32 | 0.35 |
Eddie Jones | 2.6 | 1.265632186 | 3.29 | 0.35 |
Clyde Drexler | 2.8 | 1.160327061 | 3.25 | 0.34 |
Jimmy | 2.5 | 1.288869026 | 3.22 | 0.34 |
AK47 | 2.4 | 1.315387619 | 3.16 | 0.33 |
D Wade | 2.4 | 1899-12 | 3.16 | 0.33 |
Russ | 2.4 | 1.304634861 | 3.13 | 0.33 |
Steph | 2.4 | 1.300671051 | 3.12 | 0.33 |
Dray | 2.4 | 1.2891845 | 3.09 | 0.33 |
Iggy | 2.3 | 1.31616958 | 3.03 | 0.32 |
Shawn Marion | 2.3 | 1.308613874 | 3.01 | 0.32 |
Millsap | 2.2 | 1.312253277 | 2.89 | 0.31 |
Rod Strickland | 2.4 | 1.201832477 | 2.88 | 0.30 |
Harden | 2.2 | 1.300671051 | 2.86 | 0.30 |
IT | 2.5 | 1.143523982 | 2.86 | 0.30 |
Magic | 2.5 | 1.141678317 | 2.85 | 0.30 |
Hakeem | 2.4 | 1.17835542 | 2.83 | 0.30 |
Dr J | 2.5 | 1.104343073 | 2.76 | 0.29 |
LeBron | 2.1 | 1.312853526 | 2.76 | 0.29 |
Kyle Lowry | 2.1 | 1.312253277 | 2.76 | 0.29 |
Tim Hardaway | 2.3 | 1.197862534 | 2.76 | 0.29 |
Kobe | 2.1 | 1.288575634 | 2.71 | 0.29 |
Mullin | 2.3 | 1.173528807 | 2.70 | 0.29 |
Jeff Hornacek | 2.3 | 1.170159296 | 2.69 | 0.28 |
Bobby Jones | 2.4 | 1.095411196 | 2.63 | 0.28 |
Andre Miller | 2 | 1.306297221 | 2.61 | 0.28 |
Jason Terry | 2 | 1.304130596 | 2.61 | 0.28 |
Paul Pierce | 2 | 1.298491498 | 2.60 | 0.27 |
Terry Porter | 2.2 | 1899-12 | 2.59 | 0.27 |
T-Mac | 2 | 1.2969537 | 2.59 | 0.27 |
AD | 2 | 1.2891845 | 2.58 | 0.27 |
Kyrie | 2 | 1.288869026 | 2.58 | 0.27 |
David Robinson | 2.1 | 1.197862534 | 2.52 | 0.27 |
CWebb | 2 | 1.255414011 | 2.51 | 0.27 |
Walt Frazier | 2.3 | 1.085833665 | 2.50 | 0.26 |
Larry | 2.2 | 1.135036993 | 2.50 | 0.26 |
Kevin Johnson | 2.1 | 1.171620565 | 2.46 | 0.26 |
Jokic | 1.9 | 1.293026522 | 2.46 | 0.26 |
Chuck | 2.1 | 1.166996001 | 2.45 | 0.26 |
KG | 1.9 | 1.286143461 | 2.44 | 0.26 |
Grant Hill | 1.9 | 1.282164444 | 2.44 | 0.26 |
Mark Price | 2 | 1.162541179 | 2.33 | 0.25 |
Giannis | 1.8 | 1.291401581 | 2.32 | 0.25 |
Vlade Divac | 1.9 | 1.208952502 | 2.30 | 0.24 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 2.26 | 0.24 | |
Karl Malone | 1.9 | 1.186948463 | 2.26 | 0.24 |
Vince | 1.7 | 1.298287087 | 2.21 | 0.23 |
Chauncey | 1.7 | 1.294661798 | 2.20 | 0.23 |
Ray Allen | 1.7 | 1.289809313 | 2.19 | 0.23 |
Sidney Moncrief | 1.9 | 1.133693177 | 2.15 | 0.23 |
Clifford Robinson | 1.7 | 1.227402224 | 2.09 | 0.22 |
Dominique | 1.8 | 1.158578641 | 2.09 | 0.22 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.6 | 1.287130741 | 2.06 | 0.22 |
Marques Johnson | 1.8 | 1.115499357 | 2.01 | 0.21 |
KD | 1.5 | 1.308070162 | 1.96 | 0.21 |
James Worthy | 1.7 | 1.141758823 | 1.94 | 0.21 |
Reggie | 1.6 | 1.199769889 | 1.92 | 0.20 |
George Gervin | 1.7 | 1.100741557 | 1.87 | 0.20 |
Dwight | 1.4 | 1.31616958 | 1.84 | 0.19 |
Melo | 1.4 | 1.312853526 | 1.84 | 0.19 |
Tony Parker | 1.4 | 1899-12 | 1.83 | 0.19 |
Elton Brand | 1.4 | 1899-12 | 1.83 | 0.19 |
Marc Gasol | 1.4 | 1.304788959 | 1.83 | 0.19 |
Horace Grant | 1.5 | 1899-12 | 1.79 | 0.19 |
Tiny Archibald | 1.6 | 1.103873361 | 1.77 | 0.19 |
Sam Perkins | 1.5 | 1.173009811 | 1.76 | 0.19 |
Pistol Pete | 1.6 | 1.085833665 | 1.74 | 0.18 |
Horford | 1.3 | 1.308070162 | 1.70 | 0.18 |
Joe Johnson | 1.3 | 1.30793392 | 1.70 | 0.18 |
Jack Sikma | 1.5 | 1899-12 | 1.68 | 0.18 |
Blake | 1.3 | 1.294476972 | 1.68 | 0.18 |
Dame | 1.3 | 1.2891845 | 1.68 | 0.18 |
Klay | 1.3 | 1.288869026 | 1.68 | 0.18 |
Bob Lanier | 1.5 | 1899-12 | 1.66 | 0.18 |
Ewing | 1.4 | 1.179158334 | 1.65 | 0.17 |
AC Green | 1.4 | 1.173528807 | 1.64 | 0.17 |
Earl Monroe | 1.5 | 1.085833665 | 1.63 | 0.17 |
Larry Nance | 1.4 | 1.143523982 | 1.60 | 0.17 |
Bosh | 1.2 | 1.320174008 | 1.58 | 0.17 |
D Rose | 1.2 | 1.304634861 | 1.57 | 0.17 |
Dirk | 1.2 | 1.298080206 | 1.56 | 0.16 |
KAT | 1.2 | 1.293026522 | 1.55 | 0.16 |
Nash | 1.2 | 1.289809313 | 1.55 | 0.16 |
Detlef Schrempf | 1.3 | 1.173528807 | 1.53 | 0.16 |
Dave Cowens | 1.4 | 1.0891494 | 1.52 | 0.16 |
Wes Unseld | 1.4 | 1899-12 | 1.52 | 0.16 |
David Thompson | 1.4 | 1.085257376 | 1.52 | 0.16 |
Robert Parish | 1.3 | 1.134711666 | 1.48 | 0.16 |
Adrian Dantley | 1.3 | 1.11844478 | 1.45 | 0.15 |
Alex English | 1.3 | 1.11844478 | 1.45 | 0.15 |
Bill Walton | 1.3 | 1.111195739 | 1.44 | 0.15 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.44 | 0.15 |
Bob McAdoo | 1.3 | 1.110177911 | 1.44 | 0.15 |
K Love | 1.1 | 1.304634861 | 1.44 | 0.15 |
Dan Issel | 1.3 | 1.09872002 | 1.43 | 0.15 |
Tim Duncan | 1.1 | 1.292852401 | 1.42 | 0.15 |
Gobert | 1.1 | 1.291401581 | 1.42 | 0.15 |
Buck Williams | 1.2 | 1.157763021 | 1.39 | 0.15 |
Moses | 1.2 | 1.125480417 | 1.35 | 0.14 |
Kareem | 1.2 | 1.114755851 | 1.34 | 0.14 |
Elvin Hayes | 1.2 | 1.103873361 | 1.32 | 0.14 |
Tyson Chandler | 1 | 1.308492061 | 1.31 | 0.14 |
Otis Thorpe | 1.1 | 1.173009811 | 1.29 | 0.14 |
Dennis Rodman | 1.1 | 1.170159296 | 1.29 | 0.14 |
Bill Laimbeer | 1 | 1.140415126 | 1.14 | 0.12 |
Shaq | 0.9 | 1.266826406 | 1.14 | 0.12 |
Tree Rollins | 1 | 1.129496468 | 1.13 | 0.12 |
Pau | 0.8 | 1.308817643 | 1.05 | 0.11 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.8 | 1.248898309 | 1.00 | 0.11 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.8 | 1.108367261 | 0.89 | 0.09 |
Dikembe | 0.7 | 1.249427785 | 0.87 | 0.09 |
Yao | 0.6 | 1.335535807 | 0.80 | 0.08 |
Mark Eaton | 0.7 | 1.144431485 | 0.80 | 0.08 |
McHale | 0.6 | 1.142573247 | 0.69 | 0.07 |
And that is it for steals, so we can look at the total steals leaderboard before moving on to blocks.
Player | STL GOAT POINTS |
Alvin Robertson | 2.00 |
Chris Paul | 1.74 |
Mookie Blaylock | 1.72 |
Stockton | 1.68 |
AI | 1.62 |
MJ | 1.61 |
Nate McMillan | 1.60 |
Fat Lever | 1.59 |
Mo Cheeks | 1.53 |
Kidd | 1.50 |
Kawhi | 1.48 |
Pippen | 1.46 |
Doc Rivers | 1.46 |
Clyde Drexler | 1.43 |
Rajon Rondo | 1.40 |
Gary Payton | 1.39 |
Paul George | 1.39 |
Eddie Jones | 1.36 |
Russ | 1.35 |
Steph | 1.35 |
Jimmy | 1.33 |
Dr J | 1.31 |
IT | 1.30 |
Terrell Brandon | 1.30 |
Magic | 1.30 |
Manu | 1.27 |
D Wade | 1.26 |
LeBron | 1.24 |
Shawn Marion | 1.24 |
Hakeem | 1.24 |
AK47 | 1.24 |
Dray | 1.23 |
Harden | 1.22 |
Iggy | 1.20 |
Walt Frazier | 1.20 |
Tim Hardaway | 1.19 |
Rod Strickland | 1.17 |
Mullin | 1.17 |
Larry | 1.14 |
Kobe | 1.12 |
Kyle Lowry | 1.11 |
Millsap | 1.10 |
AD | 1.10 |
Bobby Jones | 1.10 |
Kevin Johnson | 1.09 |
CWebb | 1.07 |
Jeff Hornacek | 1.07 |
Paul Pierce | 1.07 |
Chuck | 1.06 |
Kyrie | 1.06 |
David Robinson | 1.05 |
Andre Miller | 1.03 |
KG | 1.03 |
Jokic | 1.01 |
T-Mac | 1.01 |
Karl Malone | 1.00 |
Terry Porter | 0.99 |
Jason Terry | 0.99 |
Grant Hill | 0.98 |
Giannis | 0.98 |
Bailey Howell | 0.95 |
Bill Russell | 0.95 |
Bill Sharman | 0.95 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.95 |
Bob Cousy | 0.95 |
Bob Pettit | 0.95 |
Chet Walker | 0.95 |
Dave Bing | 0.95 |
Dave DeBusschere | 0.95 |
Dolph Schayes | 0.95 |
Ed Macauley | 0.95 |
Elgin Baylor | 0.95 |
George Mikan | 0.95 |
Hal Greer | 0.95 |
Jerry Lucas | 0.95 |
Jerry West | 0.95 |
John Havlicek | 0.95 |
Lenny Wilkens | 0.95 |
Nate Thurmond | 0.95 |
Oscar | 0.95 |
Paul Arizin | 0.95 |
Rick Barry | 0.95 |
Sam Jones | 0.95 |
Walt Bellamy | 0.95 |
Willis Reed | 0.95 |
Wilt | 0.95 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0.95 |
Mark Price | 0.92 |
Dominique | 0.91 |
Vlade Divac | 0.91 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.90 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.89 |
Ray Allen | 0.88 |
Earl Monroe | 0.88 |
Marques Johnson | 0.88 |
KD | 0.87 |
Vince | 0.87 |
Pistol Pete | 0.86 |
Chauncey | 0.85 |
Sheed Wallace | 0.83 |
George Gervin | 0.82 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.82 |
Reggie | 0.81 |
James Worthy | 0.80 |
Melo | 0.80 |
Dame | 0.77 |
Dwight | 0.76 |
Horace Grant | 0.75 |
Elton Brand | 0.75 |
Marc Gasol | 0.75 |
Bob Lanier | 0.75 |
Klay | 0.73 |
Ewing | 0.72 |
Dave Cowens | 0.71 |
Tony Parker | 0.71 |
Wes Unseld | 0.71 |
Jack Sikma | 0.71 |
Sam Perkins | 0.70 |
Horford | 0.68 |
Joe Johnson | 0.68 |
David Thompson | 0.68 |
Blake | 0.67 |
Dan Issel | 0.67 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.67 |
D Rose | 0.66 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.66 |
Larry Nance | 0.66 |
KAT | 0.66 |
Bosh | 0.65 |
Elvin Hayes | 0.65 |
Dirk | 0.64 |
AC Green | 0.64 |
Alex English | 0.63 |
Kareem | 0.62 |
Nash | 0.62 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.61 |
Robert Parish | 0.61 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.59 |
Bill Walton | 0.59 |
K Love | 0.59 |
Buck Williams | 0.59 |
Tim Duncan | 0.58 |
Gobert | 0.58 |
Moses | 0.57 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.53 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.53 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.50 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.48 |
Shaq | 0.47 |
Pau | 0.41 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.41 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.40 |
Tree Rollins | 0.39 |
Dikembe | 0.34 |
Yao | 0.33 |
Mark Eaton | 0.31 |
McHale | 0.28 |
Blocks (2)
Insert blocks for steals in the little steals intro above, and we’re just about set. We only have blocks per game and per 36 and then block percentage here as well. We also have the same idea of blocks being diminished in volume versus other counting stats – and an argument from some that the offensive opportunities a block can unleash might make it more valuable than, say, your average singular defensive rebound.
Subcategories:
- Pure Volume (1.5) – Blocks per game (1), Blocks per 36 (0.5)
- Percentages (0.5) – Block percentage (0.5)
Let’s start with blocks per game. We have the same 1974 issue with blocks, so we’ll be putting everyone that played half or less of their career before 1974 in the middle. Again, it’s the best we can do without any sort of numbers to base a placement on. Could we theoretically say Wilt Chamberlain blocked a lot of shots and Bob Cousy didn’t? Yes, and that would probably be right. But we can’t be fully confident in even that extreme example, never mind the less predictable comparisons. I’ll adjust for era here as usual.
Mark Eaton | 3.5 | 1.104466767 | 3.87 | 1.00 |
Hakeem | 3.1 | 1.129546204 | 3.50 | 0.90 |
David Robinson | 3 | 1.143349226 | 3.43 | 0.89 |
Alonzo Mourning | 2.8 | 1.176142685 | 3.29 | 0.85 |
Dikembe | 2.8 | 1.173343161 | 3.29 | 0.85 |
Kareem | 2.6 | 1.147835532 | 2.98 | 0.77 |
AD | 2.3 | 1.214931679 | 2.79 | 0.72 |
Shaq | 2.3 | 1.181874363 | 2.72 | 0.70 |
Ewing | 2.4 | 1.130507301 | 2.71 | 0.70 |
Gobert | 2.2 | 1.221383783 | 2.69 | 0.69 |
Artis Gilmore | 2.4 | 1.114472534 | 2.67 | 0.69 |
Tim Duncan | 2.2 | 1.193107035 | 2.62 | 0.68 |
Bill Walton | 2.2 | 1.14648071 | 2.52 | 0.65 |
Tree Rollins | 2.2 | 1.110379346 | 2.44 | 0.63 |
Larry Nance | 2.2 | 1.105872493 | 2.43 | 0.63 |
Elvin Hayes | 2 | 1.169129637 | 2.34 | 0.60 |
Yao | 1.9 | 1.219057923 | 2.32 | 0.60 |
Dwight | 1.8 | 1.21893545 | 2.19 | 0.57 |
AK47 | 1.8 | 1.207453428 | 2.17 | 0.56 |
Elton Brand | 1.7 | 1899-12 | 2.03 | 0.53 |
Pau | 1.6 | 1.208268545 | 1.93 | 0.50 |
Dr J | 1.7 | 1.116035387 | 1.90 | 0.49 |
McHale | 1.7 | 1.104225736 | 1.88 | 0.49 |
Bob Lanier | 1.5 | 1899-12 | 1.75 | 0.45 |
Bob McAdoo | 1.5 | 1.160526239 | 1.74 | 0.45 |
KAT | 1.4 | 1.215424033 | 1.70 | 0.44 |
Marc Gasol | 1.4 | 1.206783871 | 1.69 | 0.44 |
Robert Parish | 1.5 | 1.11926835 | 1.68 | 0.43 |
KG | 1.4 | 1.191903717 | 1.67 | 0.43 |
CWebb | 1.4 | 1.178911172 | 1.65 | 0.43 |
Vlade Divac | 1.4 | 1.147989596 | 1.61 | 0.42 |
Giannis | 1.3 | 1.221383783 | 1.59 | 0.41 |
Bobby Jones | 1.4 | 1.110216789 | 1.55 | 0.40 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.3 | 1.186971791 | 1.54 | 0.40 |
Horford | 1.2 | 1.213255241 | 1.46 | 0.38 |
Tyson Chandler | 1.2 | 1.208048181 | 1.45 | 0.37 |
Moses | 1.3 | 1.112825841 | 1.45 | 0.37 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.34 | 0.35 |
KD | 1.1 | 1.213255241 | 1.33 | 0.34 |
Shawn Marion | 1.1 | 1.197010683 | 1.32 | 0.34 |
Millsap | 1 | 1.217589832 | 1.22 | 0.31 |
Dray | 1 | 1.214931679 | 1.21 | 0.31 |
Bosh | 1 | 1.213056355 | 1.21 | 0.31 |
Clifford Robinson | 1 | 1.161431188 | 1.16 | 0.30 |
Horace Grant | 1 | 1899-12 | 1.14 | 0.29 |
George Gervin | 1 | 1.11936678 | 1.12 | 0.29 |
Dave Cowens | 0.9 | 1.19267729 | 1.07 | 0.28 |
T-Mac | 0.9 | 1.189845674 | 1.07 | 0.28 |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 1.06 | 0.27 | |
Jack Sikma | 0.9 | 1899-12 | 1.00 | 0.26 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.9 | 1.106396425 | 1.00 | 0.26 |
David Thompson | 0.9 | 1.099122749 | 0.99 | 0.26 |
LeBron | 0.8 | 1.215668465 | 0.97 | 0.25 |
D Wade | 0.8 | 1899-12 | 0.97 | 0.25 |
Dirk | 0.8 | 1.198888416 | 0.96 | 0.25 |
Pippen | 0.8 | 1.139385414 | 0.91 | 0.24 |
Karl Malone | 0.8 | 1.134499309 | 0.91 | 0.23 |
Chuck | 0.8 | 1.130250546 | 0.90 | 0.23 |
MJ | 0.8 | 1.129959557 | 0.90 | 0.23 |
Buck Williams | 0.8 | 1.119339113 | 0.90 | 0.23 |
Marques Johnson | 0.8 | 1.103438437 | 0.88 | 0.23 |
Larry | 0.8 | 1.10257898 | 0.88 | 0.23 |
Jokic | 0.7 | 1.215424033 | 0.85 | 0.22 |
Sam Perkins | 0.7 | 1.129248016 | 0.79 | 0.20 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.7 | 1.125506726 | 0.79 | 0.20 |
Alex English | 0.7 | 1.11114117 | 0.78 | 0.20 |
James Worthy | 0.7 | 1.106979151 | 0.77 | 0.20 |
Kawhi | 0.6 | 1.205086039 | 0.72 | 0.19 |
Wes Unseld | 0.6 | 1899-12 | 0.72 | 0.19 |
Vince | 0.6 | 1.199124472 | 0.72 | 0.19 |
Paul Pierce | 0.6 | 1.198288951 | 0.72 | 0.19 |
Grant Hill | 0.6 | 1.18421619 | 0.71 | 0.18 |
Eddie Jones | 0.6 | 1.182075157 | 0.71 | 0.18 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.6 | 1.13268526 | 0.68 | 0.18 |
Mullin | 0.6 | 1.130250546 | 0.68 | 0.18 |
Dominique | 0.6 | 1.124480725 | 0.67 | 0.17 |
Iggy | 0.5 | 1.21893545 | 0.61 | 0.16 |
Melo | 0.5 | 1.215668465 | 0.61 | 0.16 |
Jimmy | 0.5 | 1.209652685 | 0.60 | 0.16 |
Klay | 0.5 | 1.209652685 | 0.60 | 0.16 |
Blake | 0.5 | 1.209188431 | 0.60 | 0.16 |
Harden | 0.5 | 1.2087956 | 0.60 | 0.16 |
Kobe | 0.5 | 1.193655765 | 0.60 | 0.15 |
Dan Issel | 0.5 | 1.119880049 | 0.56 | 0.14 |
K Love | 0.4 | 1.210250676 | 0.48 | 0.13 |
Kyrie | 0.4 | 1.209652685 | 0.48 | 0.13 |
Paul George | 0.4 | 1.209188431 | 0.48 | 0.12 |
AC Green | 0.4 | 1.130250546 | 0.45 | 0.12 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.4 | 1.129248016 | 0.45 | 0.12 |
Nate McMillan | 0.4 | 1.128581521 | 0.45 | 0.12 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.4 | 1.117370748 | 0.45 | 0.12 |
Doc Rivers | 0.4 | 1.117050501 | 0.45 | 0.12 |
Magic | 0.4 | 1.109050939 | 0.44 | 0.11 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.3 | 1.217589832 | 0.37 | 0.09 |
Dame | 0.3 | 1.214931679 | 0.36 | 0.09 |
Manu | 0.3 | 1.214638652 | 0.36 | 0.09 |
Pistol Pete | 0.3 | 1.212549556 | 0.36 | 0.09 |
Earl Monroe | 0.3 | 1.212549556 | 0.36 | 0.09 |
Russ | 0.3 | 1.210250676 | 0.36 | 0.09 |
D Rose | 0.3 | 1.210250676 | 0.36 | 0.09 |
Kidd | 0.3 | 1.18421619 | 0.36 | 0.09 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.3 | 1.141528988 | 0.34 | 0.09 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.3 | 1.140529935 | 0.34 | 0.09 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.3 | 1.130250546 | 0.34 | 0.09 |
Fat Lever | 0.3 | 1.106979151 | 0.33 | 0.09 |
IT | 0.3 | 1.105872493 | 0.33 | 0.09 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.3 | 1.105066622 | 0.33 | 0.09 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.3 | 1.104048981 | 0.33 | 0.09 |
Walt Frazier | 0.2 | 1.212549556 | 0.24 | 0.06 |
Joe Johnson | 0.2 | 1.210110296 | 0.24 | 0.06 |
Steph | 0.2 | 1.2087956 | 0.24 | 0.06 |
Jason Terry | 0.2 | 1.200876671 | 0.24 | 0.06 |
Andre Miller | 0.2 | 1.196010054 | 0.24 | 0.06 |
Ray Allen | 0.2 | 1.192441591 | 0.24 | 0.06 |
AI | 0.2 | 1.192201597 | 0.24 | 0.06 |
Chauncey | 0.2 | 1.191756883 | 0.24 | 0.06 |
Gary Payton | 0.2 | 1.16169992 | 0.23 | 0.06 |
Rod Strickland | 0.2 | 1.145943593 | 0.23 | 0.06 |
Reggie | 0.2 | 1.142979649 | 0.23 | 0.06 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.2 | 1.137297413 | 0.23 | 0.06 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.2 | 1.13268526 | 0.23 | 0.06 |
Stockton | 0.2 | 1.132201667 | 0.23 | 0.06 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.2 | 1.11114117 | 0.22 | 0.06 |
Chris Paul | 0.1 | 1.219809204 | 0.12 | 0.03 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.1 | 1.217589832 | 0.12 | 0.03 |
Tony Parker | 0.1 | 1899-12 | 0.12 | 0.03 |
Nash | 0.1 | 1.192441591 | 0.12 | 0.03 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.1 | 1.169129637 | 0.12 | 0.03 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.1 | 1.143349226 | 0.11 | 0.03 |
Terry Porter | 0.1 | 1899-12 | 0.11 | 0.03 |
Mark Price | 0.1 | 1.128581521 | 0.11 | 0.03 |
Next we can do the same for blocks per 36. There are 0.5 goat points on the line here.
Player | BP36 | Multiplier | EA BP36 | GOAT POINTS |
Mark Eaton | 4.4 | 1.104466767 | 4.86 | 0.50 |
Tree Rollins | 3.8 | 1.110379346 | 4.22 | 0.43 |
Alonzo Mourning | 3.3 | 1.176142685 | 3.88 | 0.40 |
Dikembe | 3.2 | 1.173343161 | 3.75 | 0.39 |
David Robinson | 3.1 | 1.143349226 | 3.54 | 0.36 |
Hakeem | 3.1 | 1.129546204 | 3.50 | 0.36 |
Gobert | 2.7 | 1.221383783 | 3.30 | 0.34 |
Bill Walton | 2.8 | 1.14648071 | 3.21 | 0.33 |
Kareem | 2.6 | 1.147835532 | 2.98 | 0.31 |
Ewing | 2.6 | 1.130507301 | 2.94 | 0.30 |
AD | 2.4 | 1.214931679 | 2.92 | 0.30 |
Tim Duncan | 2.3 | 1.193107035 | 2.74 | 0.28 |
Shaq | 2.3 | 1.181874363 | 2.72 | 0.28 |
Artis Gilmore | 2.4 | 1.114472534 | 2.67 | 0.28 |
AK47 | 2.2 | 1.207453428 | 2.66 | 0.27 |
Larry Nance | 2.4 | 1.105872493 | 2.65 | 0.27 |
Yao | 2.1 | 1.219057923 | 2.56 | 0.26 |
Dwight | 2 | 1.21893545 | 2.44 | 0.25 |
Elvin Hayes | 2 | 1.169129637 | 2.34 | 0.24 |
Elton Brand | 1.9 | 1899-12 | 2.27 | 0.23 |
McHale | 2 | 1.104225736 | 2.21 | 0.23 |
Robert Parish | 1.9 | 1.11926835 | 2.13 | 0.22 |
Pau | 1.7 | 1.208268545 | 2.05 | 0.21 |
Bobby Jones | 1.8 | 1.110216789 | 2.00 | 0.21 |
Bob Lanier | 1.7 | 1899-12 | 1.99 | 0.20 |
Vlade Divac | 1.7 | 1.147989596 | 1.95 | 0.20 |
Marc Gasol | 1.6 | 1.206783871 | 1.93 | 0.20 |
Dr J | 1.7 | 1.116035387 | 1.90 | 0.20 |
Bob McAdoo | 1.6 | 1.160526239 | 1.86 | 0.19 |
Tyson Chandler | 1.5 | 1.208048181 | 1.81 | 0.19 |
KG | 1.5 | 1.191903717 | 1.79 | 0.18 |
Sheed Wallace | 1.5 | 1.186971791 | 1.78 | 0.18 |
Giannis | 1.4 | 1.221383783 | 1.71 | 0.18 |
KAT | 1.4 | 1.215424033 | 1.70 | 0.18 |
CWebb | 1.4 | 1.178911172 | 1.65 | 0.17 |
Dray | 1.3 | 1.214931679 | 1.58 | 0.16 |
Horford | 1.3 | 1.213255241 | 1.58 | 0.16 |
Moses | 1.4 | 1.112825841 | 1.56 | 0.16 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1.2 | 1899-12 | 1.46 | 0.15 |
Millsap | 1.2 | 1.217589832 | 1.46 | 0.15 |
Clifford Robinson | 1.2 | 1.161431188 | 1.39 | 0.14 |
KD | 1.1 | 1.213255241 | 1.33 | 0.14 |
Bosh | 1.1 | 1.213056355 | 1.33 | 0.14 |
Shawn Marion | 1.1 | 1.197010683 | 1.32 | 0.14 |
Horace Grant | 1.1 | 1899-12 | 1.25 | 0.13 |
George Gervin | 1.1 | 1.11936678 | 1.23 | 0.13 |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 1.18 | 0.12 | |
Jack Sikma | 1 | 1899-12 | 1.11 | 0.11 |
Bill Laimbeer | 1 | 1.106396425 | 1.11 | 0.11 |
D Wade | 0.9 | 1899-12 | 1.09 | 0.11 |
Dirk | 0.9 | 1.198888416 | 1.08 | 0.11 |
Dave Cowens | 0.9 | 1.19267729 | 1.07 | 0.11 |
T-Mac | 0.9 | 1.189845674 | 1.07 | 0.11 |
Sam Perkins | 0.9 | 1.129248016 | 1.02 | 0.10 |
Buck Williams | 0.9 | 1.119339113 | 1.01 | 0.10 |
David Thompson | 0.9 | 1.099122749 | 0.99 | 0.10 |
Jokic | 0.8 | 1.215424033 | 0.97 | 0.10 |
Pippen | 0.8 | 1.139385414 | 0.91 | 0.09 |
Karl Malone | 0.8 | 1.134499309 | 0.91 | 0.09 |
Chuck | 0.8 | 1.130250546 | 0.90 | 0.09 |
MJ | 0.8 | 1.129959557 | 0.90 | 0.09 |
Alex English | 0.8 | 1.11114117 | 0.89 | 0.09 |
Marques Johnson | 0.8 | 1.103438437 | 0.88 | 0.09 |
Larry | 0.8 | 1.10257898 | 0.88 | 0.09 |
LeBron | 0.7 | 1.215668465 | 0.85 | 0.09 |
Kawhi | 0.7 | 1.205086039 | 0.84 | 0.09 |
Vince | 0.7 | 1.199124472 | 0.84 | 0.09 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.7 | 1.13268526 | 0.79 | 0.08 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.7 | 1.125506726 | 0.79 | 0.08 |
James Worthy | 0.7 | 1.106979151 | 0.77 | 0.08 |
Iggy | 0.6 | 1.21893545 | 0.73 | 0.08 |
Klay | 0.6 | 1.209652685 | 0.73 | 0.07 |
Harden | 0.6 | 1.2087956 | 0.73 | 0.07 |
Wes Unseld | 0.6 | 1899-12 | 0.72 | 0.07 |
Paul Pierce | 0.6 | 1.198288951 | 0.72 | 0.07 |
Grant Hill | 0.6 | 1.18421619 | 0.71 | 0.07 |
Eddie Jones | 0.6 | 1.182075157 | 0.71 | 0.07 |
Mullin | 0.6 | 1.130250546 | 0.68 | 0.07 |
Nate McMillan | 0.6 | 1.128581521 | 0.68 | 0.07 |
Dominique | 0.6 | 1.124480725 | 0.67 | 0.07 |
Dan Issel | 0.6 | 1.119880049 | 0.67 | 0.07 |
Melo | 0.5 | 1.215668465 | 0.61 | 0.06 |
K Love | 0.5 | 1.210250676 | 0.61 | 0.06 |
Jimmy | 0.5 | 1.209652685 | 0.60 | 0.06 |
Blake | 0.5 | 1.209188431 | 0.60 | 0.06 |
Paul George | 0.5 | 1.209188431 | 0.60 | 0.06 |
Kobe | 0.5 | 1.193655765 | 0.60 | 0.06 |
AC Green | 0.5 | 1.130250546 | 0.57 | 0.06 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.5 | 1.129248016 | 0.56 | 0.06 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.5 | 1.117370748 | 0.56 | 0.06 |
Doc Rivers | 0.5 | 1.117050501 | 0.56 | 0.06 |
Manu | 0.4 | 1.214638652 | 0.49 | 0.05 |
D Rose | 0.4 | 1.210250676 | 0.48 | 0.05 |
Kyrie | 0.4 | 1.209652685 | 0.48 | 0.05 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.4 | 1.141528988 | 0.46 | 0.05 |
Magic | 0.4 | 1.109050939 | 0.44 | 0.05 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.4 | 1.105066622 | 0.44 | 0.05 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.3 | 1.217589832 | 0.37 | 0.04 |
Dame | 0.3 | 1.214931679 | 0.36 | 0.04 |
Earl Monroe | 0.3 | 1.212549556 | 0.36 | 0.04 |
Russ | 0.3 | 1.210250676 | 0.36 | 0.04 |
Kidd | 0.3 | 1.18421619 | 0.36 | 0.04 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.3 | 1.140529935 | 0.34 | 0.04 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.3 | 1.137297413 | 0.34 | 0.04 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.3 | 1.130250546 | 0.34 | 0.03 |
Fat Lever | 0.3 | 1.106979151 | 0.33 | 0.03 |
IT | 0.3 | 1.105872493 | 0.33 | 0.03 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.3 | 1.104048981 | 0.33 | 0.03 |
Chris Paul | 0.2 | 1.219809204 | 0.24 | 0.03 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.2 | 1.217589832 | 0.24 | 0.03 |
Pistol Pete | 0.2 | 1.212549556 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Walt Frazier | 0.2 | 1.212549556 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Joe Johnson | 0.2 | 1.210110296 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Steph | 0.2 | 1.2087956 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Jason Terry | 0.2 | 1.200876671 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Andre Miller | 0.2 | 1.196010054 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Ray Allen | 0.2 | 1.192441591 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
AI | 0.2 | 1.192201597 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Chauncey | 0.2 | 1.191756883 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Gary Payton | 0.2 | 1.16169992 | 0.23 | 0.02 |
Rod Strickland | 0.2 | 1.145943593 | 0.23 | 0.02 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.2 | 1.143349226 | 0.23 | 0.02 |
Reggie | 0.2 | 1.142979649 | 0.23 | 0.02 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.2 | 1.13268526 | 0.23 | 0.02 |
Stockton | 0.2 | 1.132201667 | 0.23 | 0.02 |
Terry Porter | 0.2 | 1899-12 | 0.23 | 0.02 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.2 | 1.11114117 | 0.22 | 0.02 |
Tony Parker | 0.1 | 1899-12 | 0.12 | 0.01 |
Nash | 0.1 | 1.192441591 | 0.12 | 0.01 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.1 | 1.169129637 | 0.12 | 0.01 |
Mark Price | 0.1 | 1.128581521 | 0.11 | 0.01 |
Last up is block percentage. We have 0.5 goat points on the line here as well. This one is an interesting stat. We’re looking at the proportion of opponent two-point attempts that a given player blocks while they’re in the game. There are questions to be asked, starting with “what about threes?”, but it’s still a decent enough measure of someone’s ability to disrupt the other team’s shooting ability by way of the block. I will be adjusting for era here too since an era-based change in blocks will switch the “average” percentage of opponent shots that are blocked, and using just blocks for that adjustment should still produce a decent adjustment.
Player | BLK % | Multiplier | EA BLK % | GOAT POINTS |
Alonzo Mourning | 6.6 | 1.176142685 | 7.76 | 0.50 |
Mark Eaton | 6.9 | 1.104466767 | 7.62 | 0.49 |
Gobert | 6.1 | 1.221383783 | 7.45 | 0.48 |
Dikembe | 6.3 | 1.173343161 | 7.39 | 0.48 |
Tree Rollins | 6.2 | 1.110379346 | 6.88 | 0.44 |
AD | 5.6 | 1.214931679 | 6.80 | 0.44 |
David Robinson | 5.7 | 1.143349226 | 6.52 | 0.42 |
Hakeem | 5.4 | 1.129546204 | 6.10 | 0.39 |
AK47 | 5 | 1.207453428 | 6.04 | 0.39 |
Tim Duncan | 4.6 | 1.193107035 | 5.49 | 0.35 |
Shaq | 4.6 | 1.181874363 | 5.44 | 0.35 |
Ewing | 4.8 | 1.130507301 | 5.43 | 0.35 |
Yao | 4.4 | 1.219057923 | 5.36 | 0.35 |
Dwight | 4.4 | 1.21893545 | 5.36 | 0.35 |
Bill Walton | 4.2 | 1.14648071 | 4.82 | 0.31 |
Elton Brand | 3.9 | 1899-12 | 4.66 | 0.30 |
Marc Gasol | 3.7 | 1.206783871 | 4.47 | 0.29 |
Kareem | 3.8 | 1.147835532 | 4.36 | 0.28 |
Giannis | 3.5 | 1.221383783 | 4.27 | 0.28 |
KAT | 3.5 | 1.215424033 | 4.25 | 0.27 |
Pau | 3.5 | 1.208268545 | 4.23 | 0.27 |
Larry Nance | 3.8 | 1.105872493 | 4.20 | 0.27 |
Artis Gilmore | 3.7 | 1.114472534 | 4.12 | 0.27 |
Tyson Chandler | 3.3 | 1.208048181 | 3.99 | 0.26 |
Vlade Divac | 3.2 | 1.147989596 | 3.67 | 0.24 |
Horford | 3 | 1.213255241 | 3.64 | 0.23 |
KG | 3 | 1.191903717 | 3.58 | 0.23 |
Sheed Wallace | 3 | 1.186971791 | 3.56 | 0.23 |
McHale | 3.2 | 1.104225736 | 3.53 | 0.23 |
Dray | 2.9 | 1.214931679 | 3.52 | 0.23 |
Millsap | 2.8 | 1.217589832 | 3.41 | 0.22 |
Elvin Hayes | 2.9 | 1.169129637 | 3.39 | 0.22 |
Robert Parish | 3 | 1.11926835 | 3.36 | 0.22 |
CWebb | 2.7 | 1.178911172 | 3.18 | 0.21 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 2.6 | 1899-12 | 3.17 | 0.20 |
Bobby Jones | 2.7 | 1.110216789 | 3.00 | 0.19 |
Bob Lanier | 2.5 | 1899-12 | 2.92 | 0.19 |
Dr J | 2.6 | 1.116035387 | 2.90 | 0.19 |
KD | 2.3 | 1.213255241 | 2.79 | 0.18 |
Bosh | 2.3 | 1.213056355 | 2.79 | 0.18 |
Clifford Robinson | 2.3 | 1.161431188 | 2.67 | 0.17 |
Bob McAdoo | 2.3 | 1.160526239 | 2.67 | 0.17 |
Shawn Marion | 2.2 | 1.197010683 | 2.63 | 0.17 |
Moses | 2.2 | 1.112825841 | 2.45 | 0.16 |
Jokic | 2 | 1.215424033 | 2.43 | 0.16 |
D Wade | 2 | 1899-12 | 2.43 | 0.16 |
Horace Grant | 2 | 1899-12 | 2.28 | 0.15 |
Dirk | 1.9 | 1.198888416 | 2.28 | 0.15 |
T-Mac | 1.9 | 1.189845674 | 2.26 | 0.15 |
Bailey Howell | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Bill Russell | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Bill Sharman | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Billy Cunningham | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Bob Cousy | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Bob Pettit | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Chet Walker | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Dave Bing | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Dave DeBusschere | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Dolph Schayes | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Ed Macauley | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Elgin Baylor | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
George Mikan | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Hal Greer | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Jerry Lucas | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Jerry West | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
John Havlicek | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Lenny Wilkens | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Nate Thurmond | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Oscar | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Paul Arizin | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Rick Barry | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Sam Jones | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Walt Bellamy | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Willis Reed | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Wilt | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
Zelmo Beaty | #DIV/0! | 2.23 | 0.14 | |
LeBron | 1.6 | 1.215668465 | 1.95 | 0.13 |
Kawhi | 1.6 | 1.205086039 | 1.93 | 0.12 |
Bill Laimbeer | 1.7 | 1.106396425 | 1.88 | 0.12 |
Pippen | 1.6 | 1.139385414 | 1.82 | 0.12 |
Sam Perkins | 1.6 | 1.129248016 | 1.81 | 0.12 |
Vince | 1.5 | 1.199124472 | 1.80 | 0.12 |
George Gervin | 1.6 | 1.11936678 | 1.79 | 0.12 |
Buck Williams | 1.6 | 1.119339113 | 1.79 | 0.12 |
Jack Sikma | 1.6 | 1899-12 | 1.77 | 0.11 |
Karl Malone | 1.5 | 1.134499309 | 1.70 | 0.11 |
Iggy | 1.3 | 1.21893545 | 1.58 | 0.10 |
Chuck | 1.4 | 1.130250546 | 1.58 | 0.10 |
MJ | 1.4 | 1.129959557 | 1.58 | 0.10 |
Klay | 1.3 | 1.209652685 | 1.57 | 0.10 |
Harden | 1.3 | 1.2087956 | 1.57 | 0.10 |
Paul Pierce | 1.3 | 1.198288951 | 1.56 | 0.10 |
Dave Cowens | 1.3 | 1.19267729 | 1.55 | 0.10 |
Eddie Jones | 1.3 | 1.182075157 | 1.54 | 0.10 |
Melo | 1.2 | 1.215668465 | 1.46 | 0.09 |
Jimmy | 1.2 | 1.209652685 | 1.45 | 0.09 |
Blake | 1.2 | 1.209188431 | 1.45 | 0.09 |
David Thompson | 1.3 | 1.099122749 | 1.43 | 0.09 |
Grant Hill | 1.2 | 1.18421619 | 1.42 | 0.09 |
Dennis Rodman | 1.2 | 1.13268526 | 1.36 | 0.09 |
Nate McMillan | 1.2 | 1.128581521 | 1.35 | 0.09 |
Clyde Drexler | 1.2 | 1.125506726 | 1.35 | 0.09 |
Alex English | 1.2 | 1.11114117 | 1.33 | 0.09 |
K Love | 1.1 | 1.210250676 | 1.33 | 0.09 |
Paul George | 1.1 | 1.209188431 | 1.33 | 0.09 |
James Worthy | 1.2 | 1.106979151 | 1.33 | 0.09 |
Marques Johnson | 1.2 | 1.103438437 | 1.32 | 0.09 |
Larry | 1.2 | 1.10257898 | 1.32 | 0.09 |
Mullin | 1.1 | 1.130250546 | 1.24 | 0.08 |
Kyrie | 1 | 1.209652685 | 1.21 | 0.08 |
Kobe | 1 | 1.193655765 | 1.19 | 0.08 |
Dominique | 1 | 1.124480725 | 1.12 | 0.07 |
Manu | 0.9 | 1.214638652 | 1.09 | 0.07 |
D Rose | 0.9 | 1.210250676 | 1.09 | 0.07 |
Wes Unseld | 0.9 | 1899-12 | 1.08 | 0.07 |
AC Green | 0.9 | 1.130250546 | 1.02 | 0.07 |
Dan Issel | 0.9 | 1.119880049 | 1.01 | 0.06 |
Doc Rivers | 0.9 | 1.117050501 | 1.01 | 0.06 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.8 | 1.217589832 | 0.97 | 0.06 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.8 | 1.141528988 | 0.91 | 0.06 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.8 | 1.129248016 | 0.90 | 0.06 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.8 | 1.117370748 | 0.89 | 0.06 |
Dame | 0.7 | 1.214931679 | 0.85 | 0.05 |
Russ | 0.7 | 1.210250676 | 0.85 | 0.05 |
Kidd | 0.7 | 1.18421619 | 0.83 | 0.05 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.6 | 1.140529935 | 0.68 | 0.04 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.6 | 1.130250546 | 0.68 | 0.04 |
Magic | 0.6 | 1.109050939 | 0.67 | 0.04 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.6 | 1.105066622 | 0.66 | 0.04 |
Earl Monroe | 0.5 | 1.212549556 | 0.61 | 0.04 |
Steph | 0.5 | 1.2087956 | 0.60 | 0.04 |
Jason Terry | 0.5 | 1.200876671 | 0.60 | 0.04 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.5 | 1.13268526 | 0.57 | 0.04 |
Stockton | 0.5 | 1.132201667 | 0.57 | 0.04 |
Fat Lever | 0.5 | 1.106979151 | 0.55 | 0.04 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.5 | 1.104048981 | 0.55 | 0.04 |
Chris Paul | 0.4 | 1.219809204 | 0.49 | 0.03 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.4 | 1.217589832 | 0.49 | 0.03 |
Pistol Pete | 0.4 | 1.212549556 | 0.49 | 0.03 |
Joe Johnson | 0.4 | 1.210110296 | 0.48 | 0.03 |
Andre Miller | 0.4 | 1.196010054 | 0.48 | 0.03 |
Ray Allen | 0.4 | 1.192441591 | 0.48 | 0.03 |
Chauncey | 0.4 | 1.191756883 | 0.48 | 0.03 |
Gary Payton | 0.4 | 1.16169992 | 0.46 | 0.03 |
Rod Strickland | 0.4 | 1.145943593 | 0.46 | 0.03 |
Reggie | 0.4 | 1.142979649 | 0.46 | 0.03 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.4 | 1.137297413 | 0.45 | 0.03 |
IT | 0.4 | 1.105872493 | 0.44 | 0.03 |
AI | 0.3 | 1.192201597 | 0.36 | 0.02 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.3 | 1.143349226 | 0.34 | 0.02 |
Terry Porter | 0.3 | 1899-12 | 0.34 | 0.02 |
Walt Frazier | 0.2 | 1.212549556 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Tony Parker | 0.2 | 1899-12 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Nash | 0.2 | 1.192441591 | 0.24 | 0.02 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.2 | 1.169129637 | 0.23 | 0.02 |
Mark Price | 0.2 | 1.128581521 | 0.23 | 0.01 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.2 | 1.11114117 | 0.22 | 0.01 |
And that is all we have for blocks, so we’ll take a look at the overall blocks leaderboard and then the cumulative leaderboard through our first five categories.
Player | BLK GOAT POINTS |
Mark Eaton | 1.99 |
Alonzo Mourning | 1.75 |
Dikembe | 1.71 |
David Robinson | 1.67 |
Hakeem | 1.66 |
Gobert | 1.51 |
Tree Rollins | 1.51 |
AD | 1.46 |
Kareem | 1.36 |
Ewing | 1.35 |
Shaq | 1.33 |
Tim Duncan | 1.31 |
Bill Walton | 1.29 |
Artis Gilmore | 1.23 |
AK47 | 1.22 |
Yao | 1.21 |
Larry Nance | 1.17 |
Dwight | 1.16 |
Elvin Hayes | 1.06 |
Elton Brand | 1.06 |
Pau | 0.98 |
McHale | 0.94 |
Marc Gasol | 0.92 |
KAT | 0.89 |
Dr J | 0.87 |
Robert Parish | 0.87 |
Giannis | 0.86 |
Vlade Divac | 0.85 |
Bob Lanier | 0.85 |
KG | 0.85 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.82 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.81 |
Sheed Wallace | 0.81 |
CWebb | 0.80 |
Bobby Jones | 0.80 |
Horford | 0.77 |
Dray | 0.70 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.70 |
Moses | 0.69 |
Millsap | 0.68 |
KD | 0.66 |
Shawn Marion | 0.65 |
Bosh | 0.63 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.62 |
Horace Grant | 0.57 |
Bailey Howell | 0.54 |
Bill Russell | 0.54 |
Bill Sharman | 0.54 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.54 |
Bob Cousy | 0.54 |
Bob Pettit | 0.54 |
Chet Walker | 0.54 |
Dave Bing | 0.54 |
Dave DeBusschere | 0.54 |
Dolph Schayes | 0.54 |
Ed Macauley | 0.54 |
Elgin Baylor | 0.54 |
George Mikan | 0.54 |
Hal Greer | 0.54 |
Jerry Lucas | 0.54 |
Jerry West | 0.54 |
John Havlicek | 0.54 |
Lenny Wilkens | 0.54 |
Nate Thurmond | 0.54 |
Oscar | 0.54 |
Paul Arizin | 0.54 |
Rick Barry | 0.54 |
Sam Jones | 0.54 |
Walt Bellamy | 0.54 |
Willis Reed | 0.54 |
Wilt | 0.54 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0.54 |
T-Mac | 0.53 |
George Gervin | 0.53 |
D Wade | 0.52 |
Dirk | 0.51 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.49 |
Dave Cowens | 0.49 |
Jack Sikma | 0.49 |
Jokic | 0.48 |
LeBron | 0.46 |
Buck Williams | 0.45 |
David Thompson | 0.45 |
Pippen | 0.45 |
Karl Malone | 0.44 |
Chuck | 0.43 |
MJ | 0.43 |
Sam Perkins | 0.43 |
Marques Johnson | 0.40 |
Larry | 0.40 |
Kawhi | 0.40 |
Vince | 0.39 |
Alex English | 0.38 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.37 |
James Worthy | 0.37 |
Paul Pierce | 0.36 |
Eddie Jones | 0.36 |
Grant Hill | 0.35 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.34 |
Iggy | 0.33 |
Klay | 0.33 |
Harden | 0.33 |
Wes Unseld | 0.33 |
Mullin | 0.33 |
Dominique | 0.32 |
Melo | 0.31 |
Jimmy | 0.31 |
Blake | 0.31 |
Kobe | 0.29 |
Dan Issel | 0.28 |
Nate McMillan | 0.27 |
K Love | 0.27 |
Paul George | 0.27 |
Kyrie | 0.25 |
AC Green | 0.24 |
Doc Rivers | 0.24 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.23 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.23 |
Manu | 0.21 |
D Rose | 0.21 |
Magic | 0.20 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.19 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.19 |
Dame | 0.19 |
Russ | 0.19 |
Kidd | 0.18 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.17 |
Earl Monroe | 0.17 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.17 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.17 |
Fat Lever | 0.16 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.16 |
Pistol Pete | 0.15 |
IT | 0.15 |
Steph | 0.13 |
Jason Terry | 0.13 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.12 |
Joe Johnson | 0.12 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.12 |
Stockton | 0.12 |
Andre Miller | 0.12 |
Ray Allen | 0.12 |
Chauncey | 0.12 |
Gary Payton | 0.11 |
Rod Strickland | 0.11 |
Reggie | 0.11 |
AI | 0.11 |
Walt Frazier | 0.10 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.09 |
Chris Paul | 0.09 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.09 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.08 |
Terry Porter | 0.07 |
Tony Parker | 0.06 |
Nash | 0.06 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.06 |
Mark Price | 0.06 |
And now our cumulative leaderboard, which will include changes in both steals and blocks.
Player | TOTAL GOAT POINTS |
Wilt | 15.80 |
Larry | 15.39 |
LeBron | 15.27 |
Jokic | 15.08 |
Magic | 14.83 |
AD | 14.81 |
David Robinson | 14.80 |
MJ | 14.80 |
George Mikan | 14.64 |
Chuck | 14.56 |
Hakeem | 14.55 |
KAT | 14.52 |
Russ | 14.43 |
Giannis | 14.40 |
Harden | 14.34 |
Chris Paul | 14.30 |
KD | 14.13 |
Steph | 14.09 |
Shaq | 14.04 |
Bob Pettit | 14.04 |
Karl Malone | 13.98 |
Dr J | 13.89 |
CWebb | 13.82 |
Tim Duncan | 13.78 |
KG | 13.76 |
Kareem | 13.70 |
Oscar | 13.62 |
Bill Russell | 13.47 |
Clyde Drexler | 13.46 |
Stockton | 13.44 |
Dwight | 13.36 |
Elgin Baylor | 13.36 |
AI | 13.34 |
Kobe | 13.29 |
Kidd | 13.27 |
Kawhi | 13.18 |
Rick Barry | 13.16 |
K Love | 13.14 |
Ewing | 13.03 |
T-Mac | 13.02 |
Gobert | 13.01 |
Walt Bellamy | 13.01 |
D Wade | 13.00 |
Artis Gilmore | 12.99 |
Billy Cunningham | 12.96 |
Jerry Lucas | 12.95 |
Dame | 12.94 |
Dirk | 12.93 |
Pau | 12.90 |
Jerry West | 12.86 |
Dolph Schayes | 12.84 |
Paul George | 12.82 |
Kyrie | 12.80 |
Tim Hardaway | 12.80 |
Pippen | 12.79 |
Bob Lanier | 12.79 |
Blake | 12.72 |
Alonzo Mourning | 12.70 |
Yao | 12.62 |
Dominique | 12.59 |
Shawn Marion | 12.57 |
Paul Pierce | 12.54 |
Kevin Johnson | 12.52 |
Moses | 12.52 |
Elvin Hayes | 12.51 |
IT | 12.50 |
Jack Sikma | 12.49 |
Willis Reed | 12.42 |
Fat Lever | 12.41 |
Nate Thurmond | 12.40 |
Bosh | 12.39 |
Bill Walton | 12.37 |
Horford | 12.36 |
Jimmy | 12.35 |
Mookie Blaylock | 12.29 |
Gary Payton | 12.27 |
Paul Arizin | 12.26 |
Nash | 12.25 |
Bob McAdoo | 12.19 |
Marc Gasol | 12.17 |
Dave Cowens | 12.17 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 12.13 |
Kyle Lowry | 12.12 |
Melo | 12.08 |
Larry Nance | 12.08 |
Alvin Robertson | 12.08 |
Ed Macauley | 12.08 |
AK47 | 12.06 |
Wes Unseld | 12.06 |
Dray | 12.05 |
Millsap | 12.03 |
George Gervin | 12.02 |
Dan Issel | 12.01 |
Vlade Divac | 11.99 |
Bob Cousy | 11.99 |
Mark Price | 11.99 |
Elton Brand | 11.98 |
Grant Hill | 11.94 |
Mullin | 11.88 |
Bill Laimbeer | 11.81 |
Terrell Brandon | 11.79 |
Bailey Howell | 11.79 |
Ray Allen | 11.74 |
Sheed Wallace | 11.70 |
John Havlicek | 11.70 |
Pistol Pete | 11.66 |
Manu | 11.65 |
Dave DeBusschere | 11.64 |
Chauncey | 11.64 |
Marques Johnson | 11.63 |
Rajon Rondo | 11.62 |
McHale | 11.59 |
Dikembe | 11.56 |
Eddie Jones | 11.56 |
Jeff Hornacek | 11.55 |
Dennis Rodman | 11.54 |
Vince | 11.54 |
Rod Strickland | 11.53 |
Dave Bing | 11.44 |
Reggie | 11.40 |
Detlef Schrempf | 11.40 |
David Thompson | 11.37 |
Lenny Wilkens | 11.37 |
Zelmo Beaty | 11.36 |
Terry Porter | 11.35 |
Doc Rivers | 11.34 |
Alex English | 11.31 |
Robert Parish | 11.26 |
Chet Walker | 11.23 |
Nate McMillan | 11.21 |
Adrian Dantley | 11.19 |
Iggy | 11.07 |
Sidney Moncrief | 11.06 |
Bill Sharman | 11.06 |
Andre Miller | 11.06 |
D Rose | 11.05 |
Mo Cheeks | 11.03 |
Buck Williams | 10.98 |
Klay | 10.97 |
Tiny Archibald | 10.94 |
Walt Frazier | 10.93 |
Sam Perkins | 10.92 |
Hal Greer | 10.88 |
James Worthy | 10.84 |
Horace Grant | 10.83 |
Bobby Jones | 10.81 |
Clifford Robinson | 10.76 |
Tony Parker | 10.75 |
Sam Jones | 10.62 |
Tyson Chandler | 10.61 |
Joe Johnson | 10.59 |
Jason Terry | 10.52 |
Otis Thorpe | 10.43 |
AC Green | 10.22 |
Mark Eaton | 9.81 |
Tree Rollins | 9.67 |
Earl Monroe | 9.31 |
We see our top five maintained while AD, David Robinson, and Hakeem jump into the top 11. On the other side of things, Scottie Pippen remains outside of the top 50 at 55, joined by Moses Malone (64), Steve Nash (78), Melo (84), Draymond (90), Ray Allen (103), Vince Carter (117), Reggie Miller (120), and Klay Thompson (139).
Fouls (1)
This is going to be a very quick and low-value category. On the one hand, the difference between someone who consistently tosses up a few fouls a game and someone who rarely fouls is important enough to take into account. On the other hand, the still lacking importance of individual fouling stats – from the relative ease with which a “fouling problem” can be overcome by other areas of the game (see Giannis and his charges as a modern example) to the low volume of fouls to the fact that there are a number of fouls every game that lead to nothing but the other team getting the ball on the sideline – means that we won’t give much of a value here. There are also very few stats that we can look at when it comes to fouls; we just have fouls per game and per 36. Lastly, we have to consider that an increase in fouls can be due to an increased defensive (or offensive in the case of a bulldozer like Giannis) role. This is essentially the same thing we talked about with turnovers. These comparisons don’t work too well in a vacuum because the guy who guards the best player on the other team is probably going to have more fouls than the guy who guards the shooter in the corner. That’s a role-based determination more than anything. All of this is to say that you ideally foul less than more, which isn’t a meaningless distinction, but there are plenty of factors to consider that should stop us from putting too much weight on foul stats. One piece of good news – fouls have been recorded every year of league history, which makes that piece of the puzzle an easy one to deal with.
Subcategories:
- Pure Volume (1) – Fouls per game (0.6), Fouls per 36 minutes (0.4)
We’ll start with simple fouls per game, and we will adjust for era here as well. Someone averaging four fouls in an era where twenty were called per game is different from someone averaging four fouls in an era where thirty were called per game. For dishing out goat points, we’ll use the same method we used for turnovers since less is more here. We take the number of goat points (0.6 here) and divide it by a multiplier greater than 1 that we create by dividing someone’s era-adjusted foul number by the leader in the clubhouse’s number (Mark Price’s 1.62).
Player | FPG | Multiplier | EA FPG | GOAT POINTS |
Mark Price | 1.3 | 1.247142756 | 1.62 | 0.60 |
D Rose | 1.3 | 1.422794043 | 1.85 | 0.53 |
Jimmy | 1.4 | 1.434399387 | 2.01 | 0.48 |
Terry Porter | 1.7 | 1899-12 | 2.13 | 0.46 |
Nash | 1.6 | 1.338959842 | 2.14 | 0.45 |
Tony Parker | 1.6 | 1899-12 | 2.20 | 0.44 |
Sam Jones | 2 | 1.105494201 | 2.21 | 0.44 |
Wilt | 2 | 1.131432961 | 2.26 | 0.43 |
Terrell Brandon | 1.8 | 1.280534602 | 2.30 | 0.42 |
Dominique | 1.9 | 1.223751358 | 2.33 | 0.42 |
AC Green | 1.9 | 1.245837427 | 2.37 | 0.41 |
Kidd | 1.8 | 1.325667297 | 2.39 | 0.41 |
T-Mac | 1.8 | 1.330150662 | 2.39 | 0.41 |
Mookie Blaylock | 1.9 | 1.27410088 | 2.42 | 0.40 |
Rod Strickland | 1.9 | 1.277631347 | 2.43 | 0.40 |
Kawhi | 1.7 | 1.43090055 | 2.43 | 0.40 |
Sidney Moncrief | 2.1 | 1.169240769 | 2.46 | 0.40 |
Jason Terry | 1.8 | 1.3660017 | 2.46 | 0.40 |
Mo Cheeks | 2.1 | 1.18052705 | 2.48 | 0.39 |
AI | 1.9 | 1.313909661 | 2.50 | 0.39 |
Joe Johnson | 1.8 | 1.388129644 | 2.50 | 0.39 |
LeBron | 1.8 | 1.393217423 | 2.51 | 0.39 |
Iggy | 1.8 | 1.395852036 | 2.51 | 0.39 |
James Worthy | 2.1 | 1.203324022 | 2.53 | 0.38 |
Reggie | 2 | 1.27304187 | 2.55 | 0.38 |
Mullin | 2.1 | 1.245837427 | 2.62 | 0.37 |
Kevin Johnson | 2.1 | 1.255657821 | 2.64 | 0.37 |
Bob Cousy | 2.4 | 1.104205373 | 2.65 | 0.37 |
Tiny Archibald | 2.3 | 1.165192317 | 2.68 | 0.36 |
KD | 1.9 | 1.419369678 | 2.70 | 0.36 |
Magic | 2.3 | 1.175620241 | 2.70 | 0.36 |
Dame | 1.9 | 1.43090055 | 2.72 | 0.36 |
AK47 | 2 | 1.365236386 | 2.73 | 0.36 |
Jeff Hornacek | 2.2 | 1.249932991 | 2.75 | 0.35 |
Chauncey | 2.1 | 1.341065279 | 2.82 | 0.35 |
Moses | 2.4 | 1.185076276 | 2.84 | 0.34 |
K Love | 2 | 1.422794043 | 2.85 | 0.34 |
Ed Macauley | 2.6 | 1.097453742 | 2.85 | 0.34 |
Fat Lever | 2.4 | 1.203324022 | 2.89 | 0.34 |
Pau | 2.1 | 1.3780273 | 2.89 | 0.34 |
Manu | 2.1 | 1.379250651 | 2.90 | 0.34 |
Alex English | 2.5 | 1.163662895 | 2.91 | 0.33 |
Tim Hardaway | 2.3 | 1.277458025 | 2.94 | 0.33 |
Ray Allen | 2.2 | 1.338959842 | 2.95 | 0.33 |
Larry | 2.5 | 1.179091271 | 2.95 | 0.33 |
Jerry West | 2.6 | 1.137510392 | 2.96 | 0.33 |
Rajon Rondo | 2.1 | 1.411740155 | 2.96 | 0.33 |
Marques Johnson | 2.6 | 1.142444486 | 2.97 | 0.33 |
Bill Sharman | 2.7 | 1.100681601 | 2.97 | 0.33 |
Shawn Marion | 2.2 | 1.352552545 | 2.98 | 0.33 |
Andre Miller | 2.2 | 1.356444702 | 2.98 | 0.33 |
Chet Walker | 2.6 | 1.147979592 | 2.98 | 0.33 |
John Havlicek | 2.6 | 1.148171206 | 2.99 | 0.33 |
Bill Russell | 2.7 | 1.108718521 | 2.99 | 0.32 |
Klay | 2.1 | 1.434399387 | 3.01 | 0.32 |
Walt Frazier | 2.6 | 1.168972732 | 3.04 | 0.32 |
Earl Monroe | 2.6 | 1.168972732 | 3.04 | 0.32 |
D Wade | 2.2 | 1899-12 | 3.04 | 0.32 |
Grant Hill | 2.3 | 1.325667297 | 3.05 | 0.32 |
Horace Grant | 2.4 | 1899-12 | 3.06 | 0.32 |
David Thompson | 2.7 | 1.137240588 | 3.07 | 0.32 |
Gary Payton | 2.4 | 1.284055689 | 3.08 | 0.32 |
Sam Perkins | 2.5 | 1.240589726 | 3.10 | 0.31 |
Nate Thurmond | 2.7 | 1.151442132 | 3.11 | 0.31 |
Horford | 2.2 | 1.419369678 | 3.12 | 0.31 |
Adrian Dantley | 2.7 | 1.163662895 | 3.14 | 0.31 |
Oscar | 2.8 | 1.137510392 | 3.19 | 0.31 |
Bobby Jones | 2.8 | 1.147118181 | 3.21 | 0.30 |
Bill Walton | 2.8 | 1.147213654 | 3.21 | 0.30 |
Dr J | 2.8 | 1.148675583 | 3.22 | 0.30 |
KG | 2.4 | 1.342757755 | 3.22 | 0.30 |
MJ | 2.6 | 1.243166061 | 3.23 | 0.30 |
Tim Duncan | 2.4 | 1.349609027 | 3.24 | 0.30 |
Stockton | 2.6 | 1.251032465 | 3.25 | 0.30 |
Dirk | 2.4 | 1.363300954 | 3.27 | 0.30 |
Wes Unseld | 2.8 | 1899-12 | 3.28 | 0.30 |
AD | 2.3 | 1.43090055 | 3.29 | 0.30 |
Bosh | 2.4 | 1.373264395 | 3.30 | 0.29 |
Kyrie | 2.3 | 1.434399387 | 3.30 | 0.29 |
Pistol Pete | 2.8 | 1.182476636 | 3.31 | 0.29 |
McHale | 2.8 | 1.183787536 | 3.31 | 0.29 |
Dan Issel | 2.9 | 1.145696132 | 3.32 | 0.29 |
Jerry Lucas | 2.9 | 1.148259745 | 3.33 | 0.29 |
Robert Parish | 2.8 | 1.19389479 | 3.34 | 0.29 |
Eddie Jones | 2.6 | 1.294501577 | 3.37 | 0.29 |
Chris Paul | 2.4 | 1.403000022 | 3.37 | 0.29 |
Kobe | 2.5 | 1.347286947 | 3.37 | 0.29 |
Dave Bing | 2.9 | 1.164767864 | 3.38 | 0.29 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 2.4 | 1899-12 | 3.39 | 0.29 |
Steph | 2.4 | 1.426745233 | 3.42 | 0.28 |
Rick Barry | 3 | 1.144750546 | 3.43 | 0.28 |
Tree Rollins | 2.9 | 1.187421784 | 3.44 | 0.28 |
Larry Nance | 2.9 | 1.1953173 | 3.47 | 0.28 |
Elgin Baylor | 3.1 | 1.120328276 | 3.47 | 0.28 |
Kareem | 3 | 1.167265363 | 3.50 | 0.28 |
Lenny Wilkens | 3.1 | 1.140688711 | 3.54 | 0.27 |
Vince | 2.6 | 1.364269792 | 3.55 | 0.27 |
George Gervin | 3.1 | 1.148134812 | 3.56 | 0.27 |
Bob Pettit | 3.2 | 1.112963464 | 3.56 | 0.27 |
Pippen | 2.8 | 1.272965728 | 3.56 | 0.27 |
IT | 3 | 1.1953173 | 3.59 | 0.27 |
Dikembe | 2.8 | 1.296134697 | 3.63 | 0.27 |
Dave DeBusschere | 3.2 | 1.144879125 | 3.66 | 0.27 |
Paul Pierce | 2.7 | 1.35811018 | 3.67 | 0.27 |
Clyde Drexler | 3 | 1.22543172 | 3.68 | 0.26 |
Russ | 2.6 | 1.422794043 | 3.70 | 0.26 |
David Robinson | 2.9 | 1.277458025 | 3.70 | 0.26 |
Bob McAdoo | 3.2 | 1.157964945 | 3.71 | 0.26 |
Harden | 2.6 | 1.426745233 | 3.71 | 0.26 |
Gobert | 2.6 | 1.428273338 | 3.71 | 0.26 |
Elvin Hayes | 3.2 | 1.16184466 | 3.72 | 0.26 |
Bob Lanier | 3.2 | 1899-12 | 3.73 | 0.26 |
Dolph Schayes | 3.4 | 1.097896838 | 3.73 | 0.26 |
Detlef Schrempf | 3 | 1.245837427 | 3.74 | 0.26 |
Nate McMillan | 3 | 1.247142756 | 3.74 | 0.26 |
Doc Rivers | 3.1 | 1.21481493 | 3.77 | 0.26 |
Kyle Lowry | 2.7 | 1.411740155 | 3.81 | 0.26 |
Chuck | 3.1 | 1.237409095 | 3.84 | 0.25 |
Hal Greer | 3.4 | 1.12985025 | 3.84 | 0.25 |
Clifford Robinson | 3 | 1.28138879 | 3.84 | 0.25 |
Tyson Chandler | 2.8 | 1.378374042 | 3.86 | 0.25 |
Sheed Wallace | 2.9 | 1.331230373 | 3.86 | 0.25 |
Paul George | 2.7 | 1.430808134 | 3.86 | 0.25 |
Blake | 2.7 | 1.430808134 | 3.86 | 0.25 |
Dennis Rodman | 3.1 | 1.249932991 | 3.87 | 0.25 |
Walt Bellamy | 3.4 | 1.145407414 | 3.89 | 0.25 |
Melo | 2.8 | 1.393217423 | 3.90 | 0.25 |
Karl Malone | 3.1 | 1.260988669 | 3.91 | 0.25 |
Artis Gilmore | 3.4 | 1.151401769 | 3.91 | 0.25 |
Elton Brand | 2.9 | 1899-12 | 3.93 | 0.25 |
Buck Williams | 3.3 | 1.212100732 | 4.00 | 0.24 |
Dray | 2.8 | 1.43090055 | 4.01 | 0.24 |
Jokic | 2.8 | 1.43391616 | 4.01 | 0.24 |
Zelmo Beaty | 3.6 | 1.122108043 | 4.04 | 0.24 |
Bill Laimbeer | 3.4 | 1.191895376 | 4.05 | 0.24 |
Mark Eaton | 3.4 | 1.194780997 | 4.06 | 0.24 |
Jack Sikma | 3.5 | 1899-12 | 4.08 | 0.24 |
Otis Thorpe | 3.3 | 1.240589726 | 4.09 | 0.24 |
Vlade Divac | 3.2 | 1.281533939 | 4.10 | 0.24 |
Marc Gasol | 2.9 | 1.419209912 | 4.12 | 0.24 |
Bailey Howell | 3.7 | 1899-12 | 4.12 | 0.24 |
CWebb | 3.2 | 1.294687958 | 4.14 | 0.23 |
Alvin Robertson | 3.4 | 1.223026252 | 4.16 | 0.23 |
Millsap | 3 | 1.411740155 | 4.24 | 0.23 |
Billy Cunningham | 3.7 | 1.147814909 | 4.25 | 0.23 |
Ewing | 3.4 | 1.252464083 | 4.26 | 0.23 |
Willis Reed | 3.7 | 1.155623033 | 4.28 | 0.23 |
Giannis | 3 | 1.428273338 | 4.28 | 0.23 |
Paul Arizin | 3.9 | 1.101622227 | 4.30 | 0.23 |
Dwight | 3.1 | 1.395852036 | 4.33 | 0.22 |
Hakeem | 3.5 | 1.247139773 | 4.36 | 0.22 |
Alonzo Mourning | 3.4 | 1.291356168 | 4.39 | 0.22 |
Yao | 3.3 | 1.334870967 | 4.41 | 0.22 |
Shaq | 3.4 | 1.305390633 | 4.44 | 0.22 |
Dave Cowens | 3.8 | 1.177251488 | 4.47 | 0.22 |
George Mikan | 4.2 | 1.079104666 | 4.53 | 0.21 |
KAT | 3.4 | 1.43391616 | 4.88 | 0.20 |
We can then do the same thing with fouls per 36. There are 0.4 goat points on the line here. Wilt sitting at the top is pretty crazy. I don’t know how much of that speaks to a lack of defensive effort, a favorable whistle, or just a skill for avoiding fouls, but it’s an impressive place to be for a seven-footer regardless. There are a number of players that rank highly here that you would think would be in positions to foul with relative frequency given matchups and all of that, and I think it’s probably fair to say that they’re not all just incredibly gifted at playing hands-free defense…
Also, shoutout to Tree Rollins for averaging more than 5 fouls per 36 minutes even before the era adjustment. That’s an impressive dedication to the craft of the personal foul.
Player | FP36 | Multiplier | EA FP36 | GOAT POINTS |
Wilt | 1.6 | 1.131432961 | 1.81 | 0.40 |
D Rose | 1.4 | 1.422794043 | 1.99 | 0.36 |
Mark Price | 1.6 | 1.247142756 | 2.00 | 0.36 |
AI | 1.7 | 1.313909661 | 2.23 | 0.32 |
Jimmy | 1.6 | 1.434399387 | 2.30 | 0.32 |
Dominique | 1.9 | 1.223751358 | 2.33 | 0.31 |
LeBron | 1.7 | 1.393217423 | 2.37 | 0.31 |
Kidd | 1.8 | 1.325667297 | 2.39 | 0.30 |
Joe Johnson | 1.8 | 1.388129644 | 2.50 | 0.29 |
Nash | 1.9 | 1.338959842 | 2.54 | 0.28 |
Mookie Blaylock | 2 | 1.27410088 | 2.55 | 0.28 |
Bill Russell | 2.3 | 1.108718521 | 2.55 | 0.28 |
Magic | 2.2 | 1.175620241 | 2.59 | 0.28 |
Tony Parker | 1.9 | 1899-12 | 2.62 | 0.28 |
T-Mac | 2 | 1.330150662 | 2.66 | 0.27 |
Reggie | 2.1 | 1.27304187 | 2.67 | 0.27 |
Tiny Archibald | 2.3 | 1.165192317 | 2.68 | 0.27 |
KD | 1.9 | 1.419369678 | 2.70 | 0.27 |
Mo Cheeks | 2.3 | 1.18052705 | 2.72 | 0.27 |
Dame | 1.9 | 1.43090055 | 2.72 | 0.27 |
Oscar | 2.4 | 1.137510392 | 2.73 | 0.27 |
Jerry West | 2.4 | 1.137510392 | 2.73 | 0.27 |
Ed Macauley | 2.5 | 1.097453742 | 2.74 | 0.26 |
Terry Porter | 2.2 | 1899-12 | 2.76 | 0.26 |
Bob Cousy | 2.5 | 1.104205373 | 2.76 | 0.26 |
Kevin Johnson | 2.2 | 1.255657821 | 2.76 | 0.26 |
Iggy | 2 | 1.395852036 | 2.79 | 0.26 |
Rod Strickland | 2.2 | 1.277631347 | 2.81 | 0.26 |
Terrell Brandon | 2.2 | 1.280534602 | 2.82 | 0.26 |
Larry | 2.4 | 1.179091271 | 2.83 | 0.26 |
Kawhi | 2 | 1.43090055 | 2.86 | 0.25 |
Mullin | 2.3 | 1.245837427 | 2.87 | 0.25 |
John Havlicek | 2.5 | 1.148171206 | 2.87 | 0.25 |
Sam Jones | 2.6 | 1.105494201 | 2.87 | 0.25 |
James Worthy | 2.4 | 1.203324022 | 2.89 | 0.25 |
Walt Frazier | 2.5 | 1.168972732 | 2.92 | 0.25 |
Sidney Moncrief | 2.5 | 1.169240769 | 2.92 | 0.25 |
Ray Allen | 2.2 | 1.338959842 | 2.95 | 0.25 |
Moses | 2.5 | 1.185076276 | 2.96 | 0.24 |
MJ | 2.4 | 1.243166061 | 2.98 | 0.24 |
AC Green | 2.4 | 1.245837427 | 2.99 | 0.24 |
Nate Thurmond | 2.6 | 1.151442132 | 2.99 | 0.24 |
Jason Terry | 2.2 | 1.3660017 | 3.01 | 0.24 |
Tim Hardaway | 2.4 | 1.277458025 | 3.07 | 0.24 |
Marques Johnson | 2.7 | 1.142444486 | 3.08 | 0.23 |
Jerry Lucas | 2.7 | 1.148259745 | 3.10 | 0.23 |
Shawn Marion | 2.3 | 1.352552545 | 3.11 | 0.23 |
Jeff Hornacek | 2.5 | 1.249932991 | 3.12 | 0.23 |
Elgin Baylor | 2.8 | 1.120328276 | 3.14 | 0.23 |
Adrian Dantley | 2.7 | 1.163662895 | 3.14 | 0.23 |
Pau | 2.3 | 1.3780273 | 3.17 | 0.23 |
D Wade | 2.3 | 1899-12 | 3.18 | 0.23 |
Gary Payton | 2.5 | 1.284055689 | 3.21 | 0.23 |
Dr J | 2.8 | 1.148675583 | 3.22 | 0.23 |
Chauncey | 2.4 | 1.341065279 | 3.22 | 0.22 |
Fat Lever | 2.7 | 1.203324022 | 3.25 | 0.22 |
K Love | 2.3 | 1.422794043 | 3.27 | 0.22 |
AK47 | 2.4 | 1.365236386 | 3.28 | 0.22 |
Wes Unseld | 2.8 | 1899-12 | 3.28 | 0.22 |
Bosh | 2.4 | 1.373264395 | 3.30 | 0.22 |
David Thompson | 2.9 | 1.137240588 | 3.30 | 0.22 |
Klay | 2.3 | 1.434399387 | 3.30 | 0.22 |
Bill Sharman | 3 | 1.100681601 | 3.30 | 0.22 |
Horace Grant | 2.6 | 1899-12 | 3.31 | 0.22 |
Pistol Pete | 2.8 | 1.182476636 | 3.31 | 0.22 |
Grant Hill | 2.5 | 1.325667297 | 3.31 | 0.22 |
Rick Barry | 2.9 | 1.144750546 | 3.32 | 0.22 |
Chet Walker | 2.9 | 1.147979592 | 3.33 | 0.22 |
Bob Pettit | 3 | 1.112963464 | 3.34 | 0.22 |
KG | 2.5 | 1.342757755 | 3.36 | 0.22 |
Kobe | 2.5 | 1.347286947 | 3.37 | 0.21 |
Tim Duncan | 2.5 | 1.349609027 | 3.37 | 0.21 |
Alex English | 2.9 | 1.163662895 | 3.37 | 0.21 |
Dave Bing | 2.9 | 1.164767864 | 3.38 | 0.21 |
Kareem | 2.9 | 1.167265363 | 3.39 | 0.21 |
Earl Monroe | 2.9 | 1.168972732 | 3.39 | 0.21 |
Dirk | 2.5 | 1.363300954 | 3.41 | 0.21 |
Dan Issel | 3 | 1.145696132 | 3.44 | 0.21 |
Kyrie | 2.4 | 1.434399387 | 3.44 | 0.21 |
Elvin Hayes | 3 | 1.16184466 | 3.49 | 0.21 |
Eddie Jones | 2.7 | 1.294501577 | 3.50 | 0.21 |
Chris Paul | 2.5 | 1.403000022 | 3.51 | 0.21 |
Andre Miller | 2.6 | 1.356444702 | 3.53 | 0.21 |
Rajon Rondo | 2.5 | 1.411740155 | 3.53 | 0.21 |
Lenny Wilkens | 3.1 | 1.140688711 | 3.54 | 0.20 |
Horford | 2.5 | 1.419369678 | 3.55 | 0.20 |
Steph | 2.5 | 1.426745233 | 3.57 | 0.20 |
AD | 2.5 | 1.43090055 | 3.58 | 0.20 |
IT | 3 | 1.1953173 | 3.59 | 0.20 |
Dave DeBusschere | 3.2 | 1.144879125 | 3.66 | 0.20 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 2.6 | 1899-12 | 3.67 | 0.20 |
Pippen | 2.9 | 1.272965728 | 3.69 | 0.20 |
Chuck | 3 | 1.237409095 | 3.71 | 0.20 |
Stockton | 3 | 1.251032465 | 3.75 | 0.19 |
Walt Bellamy | 3.3 | 1.145407414 | 3.78 | 0.19 |
Karl Malone | 3 | 1.260988669 | 3.78 | 0.19 |
George Gervin | 3.3 | 1.148134812 | 3.79 | 0.19 |
Larry Nance | 3.2 | 1.1953173 | 3.83 | 0.19 |
David Robinson | 3 | 1.277458025 | 3.83 | 0.19 |
Russ | 2.7 | 1.422794043 | 3.84 | 0.19 |
Dolph Schayes | 3.5 | 1.097896838 | 3.84 | 0.19 |
Sam Perkins | 3.1 | 1.240589726 | 3.85 | 0.19 |
Harden | 2.7 | 1.426745233 | 3.85 | 0.19 |
McHale | 3.3 | 1.183787536 | 3.91 | 0.19 |
Clyde Drexler | 3.2 | 1.22543172 | 3.92 | 0.18 |
Paul Pierce | 2.9 | 1.35811018 | 3.94 | 0.18 |
Hal Greer | 3.5 | 1.12985025 | 3.95 | 0.18 |
Bob Lanier | 3.4 | 1899-12 | 3.96 | 0.18 |
Paul Arizin | 3.6 | 1.101622227 | 3.97 | 0.18 |
Paul George | 2.8 | 1.430808134 | 4.01 | 0.18 |
Bill Walton | 3.5 | 1.147213654 | 4.02 | 0.18 |
Artis Gilmore | 3.5 | 1.151401769 | 4.03 | 0.18 |
Melo | 2.9 | 1.393217423 | 4.04 | 0.18 |
Bob McAdoo | 3.5 | 1.157964945 | 4.05 | 0.18 |
Manu | 3 | 1.379250651 | 4.14 | 0.17 |
CWebb | 3.2 | 1.294687958 | 4.14 | 0.17 |
Robert Parish | 3.5 | 1.19389479 | 4.18 | 0.17 |
Vince | 3.1 | 1.364269792 | 4.23 | 0.17 |
Dave Cowens | 3.6 | 1.177251488 | 4.24 | 0.17 |
Bobby Jones | 3.7 | 1.147118181 | 4.24 | 0.17 |
Sheed Wallace | 3.2 | 1.331230373 | 4.26 | 0.17 |
Dikembe | 3.3 | 1.296134697 | 4.28 | 0.17 |
Blake | 3 | 1.430808134 | 4.29 | 0.17 |
Elton Brand | 3.2 | 1899-12 | 4.34 | 0.17 |
Billy Cunningham | 3.8 | 1.147814909 | 4.36 | 0.17 |
Buck Williams | 3.6 | 1.212100732 | 4.36 | 0.17 |
Dennis Rodman | 3.5 | 1.249932991 | 4.37 | 0.17 |
Zelmo Beaty | 3.9 | 1.122108043 | 4.38 | 0.17 |
Kyle Lowry | 3.1 | 1.411740155 | 4.38 | 0.17 |
Willis Reed | 3.8 | 1.155623033 | 4.39 | 0.16 |
Jack Sikma | 3.8 | 1899-12 | 4.43 | 0.16 |
Gobert | 3.1 | 1.428273338 | 4.43 | 0.16 |
Clifford Robinson | 3.5 | 1.28138879 | 4.48 | 0.16 |
Detlef Schrempf | 3.6 | 1.245837427 | 4.49 | 0.16 |
Hakeem | 3.6 | 1.247139773 | 4.49 | 0.16 |
Ewing | 3.6 | 1.252464083 | 4.51 | 0.16 |
Marc Gasol | 3.2 | 1.419209912 | 4.54 | 0.16 |
Bailey Howell | 4.1 | 1899-12 | 4.56 | 0.16 |
Otis Thorpe | 3.7 | 1.240589726 | 4.59 | 0.16 |
George Mikan | 4.3 | 1.079104666 | 4.64 | 0.16 |
Alvin Robertson | 3.8 | 1.223026252 | 4.65 | 0.16 |
Bill Laimbeer | 3.9 | 1.191895376 | 4.65 | 0.16 |
Shaq | 3.6 | 1.305390633 | 4.70 | 0.15 |
Giannis | 3.3 | 1.428273338 | 4.71 | 0.15 |
Jokic | 3.3 | 1.43391616 | 4.73 | 0.15 |
Yao | 3.6 | 1.334870967 | 4.81 | 0.15 |
Vlade Divac | 3.8 | 1.281533939 | 4.87 | 0.15 |
Doc Rivers | 4.1 | 1.21481493 | 4.98 | 0.15 |
Dray | 3.5 | 1.43090055 | 5.01 | 0.14 |
Mark Eaton | 4.2 | 1.194780997 | 5.02 | 0.14 |
Dwight | 3.6 | 1.395852036 | 5.03 | 0.14 |
Alonzo Mourning | 3.9 | 1.291356168 | 5.04 | 0.14 |
Tyson Chandler | 3.7 | 1.378374042 | 5.10 | 0.14 |
KAT | 3.6 | 1.43391616 | 5.16 | 0.14 |
Nate McMillan | 4.2 | 1.247142756 | 5.24 | 0.14 |
Millsap | 3.8 | 1.411740155 | 5.36 | 0.13 |
Tree Rollins | 5.1 | 1.187421784 | 6.06 | 0.12 |
And that’s all she wrote on fouls. Here’s our overall fouls leaderboard –
Player | FOUL GOAT POINTS |
Mark Price | 0.96 |
D Rose | 0.89 |
Wilt | 0.83 |
Jimmy | 0.80 |
Nash | 0.74 |
Dominique | 0.73 |
Terry Porter | 0.72 |
Tony Parker | 0.72 |
AI | 0.71 |
Kidd | 0.71 |
LeBron | 0.69 |
Sam Jones | 0.69 |
Mookie Blaylock | 0.69 |
Joe Johnson | 0.68 |
Terrell Brandon | 0.68 |
T-Mac | 0.68 |
Mo Cheeks | 0.66 |
Rod Strickland | 0.66 |
AC Green | 0.65 |
Reggie | 0.65 |
Kawhi | 0.65 |
Iggy | 0.65 |
Sidney Moncrief | 0.64 |
Magic | 0.64 |
Jason Terry | 0.64 |
James Worthy | 0.64 |
Tiny Archibald | 0.63 |
Kevin Johnson | 0.63 |
Bob Cousy | 0.63 |
KD | 0.63 |
Mullin | 0.62 |
Dame | 0.62 |
Bill Russell | 0.61 |
Ed Macauley | 0.60 |
Jerry West | 0.59 |
Moses | 0.59 |
Larry | 0.59 |
Jeff Hornacek | 0.59 |
John Havlicek | 0.58 |
AK47 | 0.58 |
Ray Allen | 0.58 |
Oscar | 0.57 |
Chauncey | 0.57 |
Walt Frazier | 0.57 |
Tim Hardaway | 0.57 |
Pau | 0.56 |
K Love | 0.56 |
Marques Johnson | 0.56 |
Fat Lever | 0.56 |
Shawn Marion | 0.56 |
Nate Thurmond | 0.55 |
Alex English | 0.55 |
D Wade | 0.55 |
Bill Sharman | 0.55 |
MJ | 0.54 |
Chet Walker | 0.54 |
Klay | 0.54 |
Gary Payton | 0.54 |
Adrian Dantley | 0.54 |
Grant Hill | 0.54 |
Horace Grant | 0.54 |
David Thompson | 0.54 |
Earl Monroe | 0.53 |
Rajon Rondo | 0.53 |
Andre Miller | 0.53 |
Dr J | 0.53 |
Jerry Lucas | 0.53 |
KG | 0.52 |
Wes Unseld | 0.52 |
Horford | 0.52 |
Tim Duncan | 0.51 |
Bosh | 0.51 |
Pistol Pete | 0.51 |
Elgin Baylor | 0.51 |
Manu | 0.51 |
Dirk | 0.51 |
Kyrie | 0.50 |
Kobe | 0.50 |
Dan Issel | 0.50 |
Dave Bing | 0.50 |
Sam Perkins | 0.50 |
Rick Barry | 0.50 |
AD | 0.50 |
Eddie Jones | 0.50 |
Chris Paul | 0.50 |
Stockton | 0.49 |
Kareem | 0.49 |
Bob Pettit | 0.49 |
Steph | 0.49 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 0.48 |
Bill Walton | 0.48 |
Lenny Wilkens | 0.48 |
McHale | 0.48 |
Bobby Jones | 0.47 |
IT | 0.47 |
Larry Nance | 0.47 |
Elvin Hayes | 0.47 |
Pippen | 0.47 |
George Gervin | 0.46 |
Robert Parish | 0.46 |
Dave DeBusschere | 0.46 |
David Robinson | 0.45 |
Russ | 0.45 |
Harden | 0.45 |
Clyde Drexler | 0.45 |
Paul Pierce | 0.45 |
Dolph Schayes | 0.45 |
Chuck | 0.45 |
Vince | 0.45 |
Bob Lanier | 0.44 |
Walt Bellamy | 0.44 |
Bob McAdoo | 0.44 |
Karl Malone | 0.44 |
Dikembe | 0.44 |
Hal Greer | 0.44 |
Paul George | 0.43 |
Melo | 0.43 |
Artis Gilmore | 0.43 |
Gobert | 0.43 |
Sheed Wallace | 0.42 |
Detlef Schrempf | 0.42 |
Kyle Lowry | 0.42 |
Blake | 0.42 |
Dennis Rodman | 0.42 |
Clifford Robinson | 0.41 |
Elton Brand | 0.41 |
CWebb | 0.41 |
Buck Williams | 0.41 |
Paul Arizin | 0.41 |
Zelmo Beaty | 0.41 |
Doc Rivers | 0.40 |
Jack Sikma | 0.40 |
Tree Rollins | 0.40 |
Nate McMillan | 0.40 |
Bill Laimbeer | 0.40 |
Marc Gasol | 0.40 |
Otis Thorpe | 0.40 |
Jokic | 0.40 |
Billy Cunningham | 0.39 |
Bailey Howell | 0.39 |
Tyson Chandler | 0.39 |
Willis Reed | 0.39 |
Alvin Robertson | 0.39 |
Ewing | 0.39 |
Dave Cowens | 0.39 |
Dray | 0.39 |
Vlade Divac | 0.39 |
Hakeem | 0.38 |
Mark Eaton | 0.38 |
Giannis | 0.38 |
Shaq | 0.37 |
Yao | 0.37 |
George Mikan | 0.37 |
Dwight | 0.37 |
Alonzo Mourning | 0.37 |
Millsap | 0.36 |
KAT | 0.34 |
And we’ll do a cumulative leaderboard here too. Not much has changed obviously given that everyone got less than a point here. But there’s not much of a connection between fouls and our next category – which is a big one in longevity – so let’s just see exactly where we stand before we get there.
Player | TOTAL GOAT POINTS |
Wilt | 16.63 |
Larry | 15.98 |
LeBron | 15.96 |
Jokic | 15.48 |
Magic | 15.47 |
MJ | 15.34 |
AD | 15.31 |
David Robinson | 15.25 |
George Mikan | 15.01 |
Chuck | 15.01 |
Hakeem | 14.93 |
Russ | 14.88 |
KAT | 14.86 |
Chris Paul | 14.80 |
Harden | 14.79 |
Giannis | 14.78 |
KD | 14.76 |
Steph | 14.58 |
Bob Pettit | 14.53 |
Karl Malone | 14.42 |
Dr J | 14.42 |
Shaq | 14.41 |
Tim Duncan | 14.29 |
KG | 14.28 |
CWebb | 14.23 |
Kareem | 14.19 |
Oscar | 14.19 |
Bill Russell | 14.08 |
AI | 14.05 |
Kidd | 13.98 |
Stockton | 13.93 |
Clyde Drexler | 13.91 |
Elgin Baylor | 13.87 |
Kawhi | 13.83 |
Kobe | 13.79 |
Dwight | 13.73 |
K Love | 13.70 |
T-Mac | 13.70 |
Rick Barry | 13.66 |
Dame | 13.56 |
D Wade | 13.55 |
Jerry Lucas | 13.48 |
Pau | 13.46 |
Jerry West | 13.45 |
Walt Bellamy | 13.45 |
Dirk | 13.44 |
Gobert | 13.44 |
Ewing | 13.42 |
Artis Gilmore | 13.42 |
Tim Hardaway | 13.37 |
Billy Cunningham | 13.35 |
Dominique | 13.32 |
Kyrie | 13.30 |
Dolph Schayes | 13.29 |
Pippen | 13.26 |
Paul George | 13.25 |
Bob Lanier | 13.23 |
Kevin Johnson | 13.15 |
Jimmy | 13.15 |
Blake | 13.14 |
Shawn Marion | 13.13 |
Moses | 13.11 |
Alonzo Mourning | 13.07 |
Yao | 12.99 |
Paul Pierce | 12.99 |
Nash | 12.99 |
Elvin Hayes | 12.98 |
Mookie Blaylock | 12.98 |
IT | 12.97 |
Fat Lever | 12.97 |
Nate Thurmond | 12.95 |
Mark Price | 12.95 |
Bosh | 12.90 |
Jack Sikma | 12.89 |
Horford | 12.88 |
Bill Walton | 12.85 |
Willis Reed | 12.81 |
Gary Payton | 12.81 |
Ed Macauley | 12.68 |
Paul Arizin | 12.67 |
AK47 | 12.64 |
Bob McAdoo | 12.63 |
Bob Cousy | 12.62 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 12.61 |
Wes Unseld | 12.58 |
Marc Gasol | 12.57 |
Dave Cowens | 12.56 |
Larry Nance | 12.55 |
Kyle Lowry | 12.54 |
Dan Issel | 12.51 |
Melo | 12.51 |
Mullin | 12.50 |
George Gervin | 12.48 |
Grant Hill | 12.48 |
Alvin Robertson | 12.47 |
Terrell Brandon | 12.47 |
Dray | 12.44 |
Millsap | 12.39 |
Elton Brand | 12.39 |
Vlade Divac | 12.38 |
Ray Allen | 12.32 |
John Havlicek | 12.28 |
Chauncey | 12.21 |
Bill Laimbeer | 12.21 |
Marques Johnson | 12.19 |
Rod Strickland | 12.19 |
Bailey Howell | 12.18 |
Pistol Pete | 12.17 |
Manu | 12.16 |
Rajon Rondo | 12.15 |
Jeff Hornacek | 12.14 |
Sheed Wallace | 12.12 |
Dave DeBusschere | 12.10 |
Terry Porter | 12.07 |
McHale | 12.07 |
Eddie Jones | 12.06 |
Reggie | 12.05 |
Dikembe | 12.00 |
Vince | 11.99 |
Dennis Rodman | 11.96 |
Dave Bing | 11.94 |
D Rose | 11.94 |
David Thompson | 11.91 |
Alex English | 11.86 |
Lenny Wilkens | 11.85 |
Detlef Schrempf | 11.82 |
Chet Walker | 11.77 |
Zelmo Beaty | 11.77 |
Doc Rivers | 11.74 |
Adrian Dantley | 11.73 |
Robert Parish | 11.72 |
Iggy | 11.72 |
Sidney Moncrief | 11.70 |
Mo Cheeks | 11.69 |
Nate McMillan | 11.61 |
Bill Sharman | 11.61 |
Andre Miller | 11.59 |
Tiny Archibald | 11.57 |
Klay | 11.51 |
Walt Frazier | 11.50 |
James Worthy | 11.48 |
Tony Parker | 11.47 |
Sam Perkins | 11.42 |
Buck Williams | 11.39 |
Horace Grant | 11.37 |
Hal Greer | 11.32 |
Sam Jones | 11.31 |
Bobby Jones | 11.28 |
Joe Johnson | 11.27 |
Clifford Robinson | 11.17 |
Jason Terry | 11.16 |
Tyson Chandler | 11.00 |
AC Green | 10.87 |
Otis Thorpe | 10.83 |
Mark Eaton | 10.19 |
Tree Rollins | 10.07 |
Earl Monroe | 9.84 |
And here we are. We have a lot of familiar names in the top 30. It will be interesting to see how guys like Jokic and AD – sitting all the way up in the top 10 – will fare as we run through more categories. A few interesting notes – again under the caveat that we still have a long way to go here –
- Kobe is sitting down in 36th. Obviously a guy with plenty to gain from longevity and the postseason, which are coming still, but Bryant tends to be one of the guys we see a pretty big ranking gap with between your average “hooper”-focused fan and the fan more interested in analytics and numbers. Where does he end up?
- Jokic being 4th is obviously a testament to his ability and production (same for AD in 7th), but it is worth noting that these are two guys that are still both relatively young and yet to hit the late-career stat drop that so many experience. Also obviously worth noting that many of the remaining categories likely won’t be particularly kind to either. The same can be said for KAT at 13.
- We will see where Russ and George Mikan end up, but with both sitting in the top 15, it’s worth noting that these two, whether due to era or a controversial late-career run, likely get far less respect than they are due. The same could be said for Bob Pettit at 19.
- I won’t spend too much more time here, but the difference between Dame (40) and Kyrie (53) jumps out to me, especially considering that Dame – minus the one title – likely has an edge on Kyrie in matters of longevity and the like.
- And, as usual, some of the interesting names outside of the top 50 – Pippen (55), Moses Malone (62), Pierce and Nash (65 and 66), Isiah Thomas (69), Melo (91), Draymond (97), Ray Allen (101), Reggie Miller (117), Vince Carter (119), and Klay down in 139th.
Longevity (10)
Longevity is crucial when it comes to the goat discussion. Five great years are great. Ten great years are special. Fifteen great years put you in some rarefied air. And then there’s LeBron with not a whole lot around him. James has been a great player – not always the best in the league but a great player – for eighteen years running now, and he just managed to win Rookie of the Year with a season that the vast majority of the league would be more than happy with the season before that stretch began. That’s the most compelling angle to his GOAT argument. LeBron has been so dang good for a period of time that just leaves you scratching your head. The Year 19!!!! boasts on social media could be done without, but there’s no denying how impressive that longevity has been. And that matters quite a bit. It’s not everything, but it’s a big piece of the puzzle. It’s also worth noting that this is an important check on KAT, AD, Jokic, Giannis, etc. given where they are in their careers. So how do we measure it? Longevity is woven into a lot of the other stats. More years playing at a high level will boost your career averages, which we’ve mostly gone through in full to this point and will continue on with in our advanced metrics sections soon. More of those years also lead to more opportunities for the kind of postseason accomplishments we’ll be covering later on. To some degree, there’s no escaping longevity as we go through these categories. But the full story won’t be told there. There’s the player that didn’t necessarily have elite longevity but retired before the fall off the cliff diminished their averages (or is still playing in their prime). There’s the reverse of that too – the player that played something like 20 years and probably hung on a little too long, leading to a greater decrease in their numbers than their career as a whole deserved. So we can also measure longevity itself, using games and minutes played (both total and per game for the latter). There’s probably something to be said for using games started as a tool to show players that never declined to the point of coming off the bench, but there are difficulties in that given that certain star players might hold on to a starting job longer than they deserve at the end and that a player like Manu Ginobli might be a starting level player that just happened to perfectly fill a different role for a very successful team. Throw in the fact that games started weren’t recorded for the first 20+ years of league history, and there’s not really any great reason to dig into that stat. Years played is another stat that theoretically makes sense to look into, but not every year is equal with injuries, increasing rest, etc. Steph’s five game season in 2020 obviously wasn’t the same as one of his 70+ game seasons. Using games and minutes played takes that difficulty out of the equation and puts the focus solely on how much someone was on the court.
Subcategories:
- Games Played (5)
- Total Minutes Played (3)
- Minutes Per Game (2)
We can start with games played, which is about as simple as it gets.
Player | GP | GOAT POINTS |
Robert Parish | 1611 | 5 |
Kareem | 1560 | 4.84 |
Vince | 1541 | 4.78 |
Dirk | 1522 | 4.72 |
Stockton | 1504 | 4.67 |
Karl Malone | 1476 | 4.58 |
KG | 1462 | 4.54 |
Moses | 1455 | 4.52 |
Jason Terry | 1410 | 4.38 |
Tim Duncan | 1392 | 4.32 |
Kidd | 1391 | 4.32 |
Reggie | 1389 | 4.31 |
Clifford Robinson | 1380 | 4.28 |
LeBron | 1366 | 4.24 |
Kobe | 1346 | 4.18 |
Paul Pierce | 1343 | 4.17 |
Gary Payton | 1335 | 4.14 |
Artis Gilmore | 1329 | 4.12 |
Buck Williams | 1307 | 4.06 |
Andre Miller | 1304 | 4.05 |
Elvin Hayes | 1303 | 4.04 |
Ray Allen | 1300 | 4.03 |
Sam Perkins | 1286 | 3.99 |
AC Green | 1278 | 3.97 |
Joe Johnson | 1277 | 3.96 |
Terry Porter | 1274 | 3.95 |
John Havlicek | 1270 | 3.94 |
Melo | 1260 | 3.91 |
Otis Thorpe | 1257 | 3.90 |
Tony Parker | 1254 | 3.89 |
Dr J | 1243 | 3.86 |
Dwight | 1242 | 3.85 |
Hakeem | 1238 | 3.84 |
Pau | 1226 | 3.81 |
Iggy | 1223 | 3.80 |
Dan Issel | 1218 | 3.78 |
Nash | 1217 | 3.78 |
Shaq | 1207 | 3.75 |
Dikembe | 1196 | 3.71 |
Alex English | 1193 | 3.70 |
Ewing | 1183 | 3.67 |
Pippen | 1178 | 3.66 |
Horace Grant | 1165 | 3.62 |
Shawn Marion | 1163 | 3.61 |
Tyson Chandler | 1160 | 3.60 |
Tree Rollins | 1156 | 3.59 |
Chris Paul | 1155 | 3.58 |
Detlef Schrempf | 1136 | 3.53 |
Vlade Divac | 1134 | 3.52 |
Hal Greer | 1122 | 3.48 |
Sheed Wallace | 1109 | 3.44 |
Jack Sikma | 1107 | 3.44 |
Mo Cheeks | 1101 | 3.42 |
Rod Strickland | 1094 | 3.40 |
Clyde Drexler | 1086 | 3.37 |
Millsap | 1085 | 3.37 |
Jeff Hornacek | 1077 | 3.34 |
Lenny Wilkens | 1077 | 3.34 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 1076 | 3.34 |
Dominique | 1074 | 3.33 |
Chuck | 1073 | 3.33 |
MJ | 1072 | 3.33 |
Bill Laimbeer | 1068 | 3.31 |
George Gervin | 1060 | 3.29 |
Elton Brand | 1058 | 3.28 |
Manu | 1057 | 3.28 |
D Wade | 1054 | 3.27 |
Wilt | 1045 | 3.24 |
Walt Bellamy | 1043 | 3.24 |
Chauncey | 1043 | 3.24 |
Oscar | 1040 | 3.23 |
Chet Walker | 1032 | 3.20 |
Grant Hill | 1026 | 3.18 |
Kyle Lowry | 1023 | 3.18 |
Russ | 1021 | 3.17 |
Rick Barry | 1020 | 3.17 |
Dolph Schayes | 996 | 3.09 |
David Robinson | 987 | 3.06 |
Mullin | 986 | 3.06 |
Wes Unseld | 984 | 3.05 |
IT | 979 | 3.04 |
McHale | 971 | 3.01 |
Nate Thurmond | 964 | 2.99 |
Bill Russell | 963 | 2.99 |
Bob Lanier | 959 | 2.98 |
Rajon Rondo | 957 | 2.97 |
Adrian Dantley | 955 | 2.96 |
Eddie Jones | 954 | 2.96 |
Bailey Howell | 950 | 2.95 |
Horford | 950 | 2.95 |
Harden | 942 | 2.92 |
Bobby Jones | 941 | 2.92 |
KD | 939 | 2.91 |
T-Mac | 938 | 2.91 |
Jerry West | 932 | 2.89 |
James Worthy | 926 | 2.87 |
Earl Monroe | 926 | 2.87 |
Bob Cousy | 924 | 2.87 |
Larry Nance | 920 | 2.86 |
AI | 914 | 2.84 |
Dennis Rodman | 911 | 2.83 |
Magic | 906 | 2.81 |
Dave Bing | 901 | 2.80 |
Larry | 897 | 2.78 |
Bosh | 893 | 2.77 |
Marc Gasol | 891 | 2.77 |
Zelmo Beaty | 889 | 2.76 |
Mookie Blaylock | 889 | 2.76 |
Tiny Archibald | 876 | 2.72 |
Mark Eaton | 875 | 2.72 |
Dave DeBusschere | 875 | 2.72 |
Sam Jones | 871 | 2.70 |
Tim Hardaway | 867 | 2.69 |
Doc Rivers | 864 | 2.68 |
Bob McAdoo | 852 | 2.64 |
Elgin Baylor | 846 | 2.63 |
Alonzo Mourning | 838 | 2.60 |
CWebb | 831 | 2.58 |
Jerry Lucas | 829 | 2.57 |
Steph | 826 | 2.56 |
Walt Frazier | 825 | 2.56 |
K Love | 812 | 2.52 |
AK47 | 797 | 2.47 |
Nate McMillan | 796 | 2.47 |
Bob Pettit | 792 | 2.46 |
Alvin Robertson | 779 | 2.42 |
Billy Cunningham | 770 | 2.39 |
Sidney Moncrief | 767 | 2.38 |
Dave Cowens | 766 | 2.38 |
Fat Lever | 752 | 2.33 |
Paul George | 737 | 2.29 |
Kevin Johnson | 735 | 2.28 |
Terrell Brandon | 724 | 2.25 |
Blake | 724 | 2.25 |
Mark Price | 722 | 2.24 |
Paul Arizin | 713 | 2.21 |
Dame | 711 | 2.21 |
Bill Sharman | 711 | 2.21 |
Marques Johnson | 691 | 2.14 |
Jimmy | 690 | 2.14 |
Dray | 685 | 2.13 |
D Rose | 672 | 2.09 |
Pistol Pete | 658 | 2.04 |
Giannis | 656 | 2.04 |
Willis Reed | 650 | 2.02 |
Klay | 647 | 2.01 |
Ed Macauley | 641 | 1.99 |
Kyrie | 611 | 1.90 |
Gobert | 611 | 1.90 |
AD | 604 | 1.87 |
David Thompson | 592 | 1.84 |
Kawhi | 576 | 1.79 |
Jokic | 527 | 1.64 |
Yao | 486 | 1.51 |
KAT | 482 | 1.50 |
Bill Walton | 468 | 1.45 |
George Mikan | 439 | 1.36 |
Total minutes played is equally simple. There are three goat points on the line here. One small note here – I just have games played and minutes per game collected for everyone, so I’m just going to multiply the two to get minutes played instead of taking the time to gather all that data. Since there’s some rounding involved, the total minutes played numbers might be off by one minute for the occasional player. I’m willing to accept that level of error. Another note (whoops) – minutes played weren’t recorded until 1952. This leaves a few players with a few empty seasons at the start of their careers where we technically don’t know how much they played. So the minutes per game average for George Mikan (the prime example given the shortness of his career) or Bob Cousy is only based on the seasons where we have recorded minutes per game. For someone like Cousy who played fifteen seasons with only one prior to 1952, this is largely irrelevant. But for these guys there will be varying degrees of “our minutes played number is probably a little off but it’s close enough”. Since we’re estimating based on the average minutes played we have access to and games played (which we do know for every year), we won’t be substantially low, but there might be some error that’s a little more significant than one minute in either direction.
Player | MP | GOAT POINTS |
Kareem | 57408 | 3.00 |
Karl Malone | 54907 | 2.87 |
LeBron | 52181 | 2.73 |
Dirk | 51444 | 2.69 |
KG | 50439 | 2.64 |
Kidd | 50076 | 2.62 |
Elvin Hayes | 50035 | 2.61 |
Moses | 49470 | 2.59 |
Kobe | 48591 | 2.54 |
Wilt | 47861 | 2.50 |
Stockton | 47827 | 2.50 |
Reggie | 47643 | 2.49 |
Tim Duncan | 47328 | 2.47 |
Artis Gilmore | 47180 | 2.47 |
Gary Payton | 47126 | 2.46 |
John Havlicek | 46482 | 2.43 |
Vince | 46384 | 2.42 |
Ray Allen | 46280 | 2.42 |
Paul Pierce | 45931 | 2.40 |
Robert Parish | 45752 | 2.39 |
Dr J | 45245 | 2.36 |
Hakeem | 44197 | 2.31 |
Joe Johnson | 44184 | 2.31 |
Oscar | 43888 | 2.29 |
Melo | 43470 | 2.27 |
Clifford Robinson | 42504 | 2.22 |
Buck Williams | 42478 | 2.22 |
Jason Terry | 42018 | 2.20 |
Shaq | 41883 | 2.19 |
Dan Issel | 41777 | 2.18 |
Pippen | 41112 | 2.15 |
MJ | 41058 | 2.15 |
Pau | 40948 | 2.14 |
Bill Russell | 40735 | 2.13 |
Ewing | 40577 | 2.12 |
Andre Miller | 40294 | 2.11 |
Shawn Marion | 40124 | 2.10 |
Chris Paul | 39848 | 2.08 |
Otis Thorpe | 39847 | 2.08 |
Hal Greer | 39831 | 2.08 |
Dwight | 39496 | 2.06 |
Iggy | 39381 | 2.06 |
Chuck | 39379 | 2.06 |
Walt Bellamy | 38904 | 2.03 |
Horace Grant | 38678 | 2.02 |
Tony Parker | 38247 | 2.00 |
Rick Barry | 38148 | 1.99 |
Dominique | 38127 | 1.99 |
Nash | 38092 | 1.99 |
Alex English | 38057 | 1.99 |
Lenny Wilkens | 38018 | 1.99 |
Clyde Drexler | 37576 | 1.96 |
AI | 37565 | 1.96 |
Jack Sikma | 36974 | 1.93 |
Dikembe | 36837 | 1.93 |
Sam Perkins | 36651 | 1.92 |
AC Green | 36551 | 1.91 |
Jerry West | 36534 | 1.91 |
Sheed Wallace | 36264 | 1.90 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 36261 | 1.89 |
Nate Thurmond | 35861 | 1.87 |
Wes Unseld | 35818 | 1.87 |
D Wade | 35731 | 1.87 |
George Gervin | 35616 | 1.86 |
IT | 35538 | 1.86 |
Russ | 35429 | 1.85 |
Terry Porter | 35417 | 1.85 |
Elton Brand | 34914 | 1.82 |
Mo Cheeks | 34792 | 1.82 |
Grant Hill | 34781 | 1.82 |
KD | 34555 | 1.81 |
Larry | 34445 | 1.80 |
Dolph Schayes | 34262 | 1.79 |
David Robinson | 34249 | 1.79 |
Adrian Dantley | 34189 | 1.79 |
Bill Laimbeer | 33962 | 1.77 |
Jeff Hornacek | 33926 | 1.77 |
Elgin Baylor | 33840 | 1.77 |
Vlade Divac | 33793 | 1.77 |
Detlef Schrempf | 33626 | 1.76 |
Rod Strickland | 33586 | 1.76 |
Chet Walker | 33437 | 1.75 |
Magic | 33250 | 1.74 |
Chauncey | 32959 | 1.72 |
Eddie Jones | 32818 | 1.71 |
Dave Bing | 32796 | 1.71 |
Kyle Lowry | 32634 | 1.71 |
Bob Cousy | 32617 | 1.70 |
Harden | 32593 | 1.70 |
Jerry Lucas | 32165 | 1.68 |
Mullin | 32144 | 1.68 |
Bob Lanier | 32127 | 1.68 |
Bosh | 31969 | 1.67 |
Tyson Chandler | 31668 | 1.65 |
Dave DeBusschere | 31238 | 1.63 |
Tiny Archibald | 31186 | 1.63 |
Mookie Blaylock | 31026 | 1.62 |
Walt Frazier | 30938 | 1.62 |
CWebb | 30830 | 1.61 |
Bob Pettit | 30730 | 1.61 |
Larry Nance | 30728 | 1.61 |
T-Mac | 30673 | 1.60 |
Tim Hardaway | 30605 | 1.60 |
Bailey Howell | 30590 | 1.60 |
Horford | 30590 | 1.60 |
Millsap | 30489 | 1.59 |
McHale | 30101 | 1.57 |
James Worthy | 30002 | 1.57 |
Zelmo Beaty | 29693 | 1.55 |
Earl Monroe | 29632 | 1.55 |
Dave Cowens | 29568 | 1.55 |
Dennis Rodman | 28879 | 1.51 |
Marc Gasol | 28690 | 1.50 |
Rajon Rondo | 28614 | 1.50 |
Steph | 28332 | 1.48 |
Bob McAdoo | 28286 | 1.48 |
Paul Arizin | 27379 | 1.43 |
Billy Cunningham | 26873 | 1.40 |
Manu | 26848 | 1.40 |
Alonzo Mourning | 25978 | 1.36 |
Dame | 25809 | 1.35 |
Bobby Jones | 25689 | 1.34 |
Mark Eaton | 25200 | 1.32 |
K Love | 25091 | 1.31 |
Kevin Johnson | 25064 | 1.31 |
Paul George | 24763 | 1.29 |
Alvin Robertson | 24694 | 1.29 |
Pistol Pete | 24346 | 1.27 |
Sam Jones | 24301 | 1.27 |
Tree Rollins | 24045 | 1.26 |
AK47 | 23910 | 1.25 |
Fat Lever | 23838 | 1.25 |
Blake | 23820 | 1.24 |
Marques Johnson | 23701 | 1.24 |
Doc Rivers | 23587 | 1.23 |
Sidney Moncrief | 23163 | 1.21 |
Willis Reed | 23075 | 1.21 |
Ed Macauley | 22884 | 1.20 |
Jimmy | 22839 | 1.19 |
Bill Sharman | 22752 | 1.19 |
Mark Price | 21588 | 1.13 |
Terrell Brandon | 21575 | 1.13 |
Giannis | 21386 | 1.12 |
D Rose | 21302 | 1.11 |
Klay | 21286 | 1.11 |
AD | 20778 | 1.09 |
Kyrie | 20774 | 1.09 |
Nate McMillan | 20457 | 1.07 |
Dray | 19523 | 1.02 |
David Thompson | 19418 | 1.01 |
Gobert | 18330 | 0.96 |
Kawhi | 18029 | 0.94 |
KAT | 16484 | 0.86 |
Jokic | 16021 | 0.84 |
Yao | 15795 | 0.83 |
George Mikan | 15102 | 0.79 |
Bill Walton | 13244 | 0.69 |
Lastly, we have minutes per game. Theoretically, there’s a way to adjust for era here. The concept of player rest is still a relatively new thing, and it’s certainly true that some of today’s players play less minutes per game than their predecessors of similar stature because of shifting concepts of how to manage game load. Anyone that suggested that Giannis or LeBron or Jokic try to play 45 minutes per game like Wilt did would be laughed out of the room. But 1) that’s a difficult thing to measure and adjust for, especially since the rest clearly isn’t something that all modern players rely on (LeBron, KD, Dame, etc.) & 2) I don’t think it’s worth adjusting for anyway. We’re talking longevity. Are you on the court or not?
Player | MPG | GOAT POINTS |
Wilt | 45.8 | 2.00 |
Bill Russell | 42.3 | 1.85 |
Oscar | 42.2 | 1.84 |
AI | 41.1 | 1.79 |
Elgin Baylor | 40 | 1.75 |
Jerry West | 39.2 | 1.71 |
Bob Pettit | 38.8 | 1.69 |
Jerry Lucas | 38.8 | 1.69 |
Dave Cowens | 38.6 | 1.69 |
Elvin Hayes | 38.4 | 1.68 |
Larry | 38.4 | 1.68 |
Paul Arizin | 38.4 | 1.68 |
MJ | 38.3 | 1.67 |
LeBron | 38.2 | 1.67 |
Walt Frazier | 37.5 | 1.64 |
Rick Barry | 37.4 | 1.63 |
Walt Bellamy | 37.3 | 1.63 |
Karl Malone | 37.2 | 1.62 |
Nate Thurmond | 37.2 | 1.62 |
CWebb | 37.1 | 1.62 |
Pistol Pete | 37 | 1.62 |
Kareem | 36.8 | 1.61 |
KD | 36.8 | 1.61 |
Chuck | 36.7 | 1.60 |
Magic | 36.7 | 1.60 |
John Havlicek | 36.6 | 1.60 |
Dave Bing | 36.4 | 1.59 |
Dr J | 36.4 | 1.59 |
Wes Unseld | 36.4 | 1.59 |
Dame | 36.3 | 1.59 |
IT | 36.3 | 1.59 |
Kobe | 36.1 | 1.58 |
Kidd | 36 | 1.57 |
Adrian Dantley | 35.8 | 1.56 |
Bosh | 35.8 | 1.56 |
Dave DeBusschere | 35.7 | 1.56 |
Ed Macauley | 35.7 | 1.56 |
Hakeem | 35.7 | 1.56 |
Ray Allen | 35.6 | 1.55 |
Tiny Archibald | 35.6 | 1.55 |
Artis Gilmore | 35.5 | 1.55 |
Dominique | 35.5 | 1.55 |
Hal Greer | 35.5 | 1.55 |
Willis Reed | 35.5 | 1.55 |
Bob Cousy | 35.3 | 1.54 |
Gary Payton | 35.3 | 1.54 |
Lenny Wilkens | 35.3 | 1.54 |
Tim Hardaway | 35.3 | 1.54 |
Billy Cunningham | 34.9 | 1.52 |
Mookie Blaylock | 34.9 | 1.52 |
Pippen | 34.9 | 1.52 |
David Robinson | 34.7 | 1.52 |
Russ | 34.7 | 1.52 |
Shaq | 34.7 | 1.52 |
Clyde Drexler | 34.6 | 1.51 |
Harden | 34.6 | 1.51 |
Joe Johnson | 34.6 | 1.51 |
Chris Paul | 34.5 | 1.51 |
KG | 34.5 | 1.51 |
Melo | 34.5 | 1.51 |
Shawn Marion | 34.5 | 1.51 |
AD | 34.4 | 1.50 |
Dolph Schayes | 34.4 | 1.50 |
Eddie Jones | 34.4 | 1.50 |
George Mikan | 34.4 | 1.50 |
Dan Issel | 34.3 | 1.50 |
Ewing | 34.3 | 1.50 |
Marques Johnson | 34.3 | 1.50 |
Reggie | 34.3 | 1.50 |
Steph | 34.3 | 1.50 |
KAT | 34.2 | 1.49 |
Paul Pierce | 34.2 | 1.49 |
Kevin Johnson | 34.1 | 1.49 |
Kyrie | 34 | 1.48 |
Moses | 34 | 1.48 |
Tim Duncan | 34 | 1.48 |
D Wade | 33.9 | 1.48 |
Grant Hill | 33.9 | 1.48 |
Dirk | 33.8 | 1.48 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 33.7 | 1.47 |
George Gervin | 33.6 | 1.47 |
Paul George | 33.6 | 1.47 |
Bob Lanier | 33.5 | 1.46 |
Jack Sikma | 33.4 | 1.46 |
Larry Nance | 33.4 | 1.46 |
Pau | 33.4 | 1.46 |
Zelmo Beaty | 33.4 | 1.46 |
Bob McAdoo | 33.2 | 1.45 |
Horace Grant | 33.2 | 1.45 |
Jimmy | 33.1 | 1.45 |
Elton Brand | 33 | 1.44 |
Blake | 32.9 | 1.44 |
Klay | 32.9 | 1.44 |
David Thompson | 32.8 | 1.43 |
Sheed Wallace | 32.7 | 1.43 |
T-Mac | 32.7 | 1.43 |
Giannis | 32.6 | 1.42 |
Mullin | 32.6 | 1.42 |
Buck Williams | 32.5 | 1.42 |
Yao | 32.5 | 1.42 |
Chet Walker | 32.4 | 1.41 |
James Worthy | 32.4 | 1.41 |
Bailey Howell | 32.2 | 1.41 |
Horford | 32.2 | 1.41 |
Iggy | 32.2 | 1.41 |
Marc Gasol | 32.2 | 1.41 |
Bill Sharman | 32 | 1.40 |
Earl Monroe | 32 | 1.40 |
Alex English | 31.9 | 1.39 |
Kyle Lowry | 31.9 | 1.39 |
Bill Laimbeer | 31.8 | 1.39 |
Dwight | 31.8 | 1.39 |
Stockton | 31.8 | 1.39 |
Alvin Robertson | 31.7 | 1.38 |
D Rose | 31.7 | 1.38 |
Dennis Rodman | 31.7 | 1.38 |
Fat Lever | 31.7 | 1.38 |
Otis Thorpe | 31.7 | 1.38 |
Chauncey | 31.6 | 1.38 |
Mo Cheeks | 31.6 | 1.38 |
Jeff Hornacek | 31.5 | 1.38 |
Kawhi | 31.3 | 1.37 |
Nash | 31.3 | 1.37 |
Alonzo Mourning | 31 | 1.35 |
McHale | 31 | 1.35 |
Andre Miller | 30.9 | 1.35 |
K Love | 30.9 | 1.35 |
Clifford Robinson | 30.8 | 1.34 |
Dikembe | 30.8 | 1.34 |
Rod Strickland | 30.7 | 1.34 |
Tony Parker | 30.5 | 1.33 |
Jokic | 30.4 | 1.33 |
Sidney Moncrief | 30.2 | 1.32 |
Vince | 30.1 | 1.31 |
AK47 | 30 | 1.31 |
Gobert | 30 | 1.31 |
Mark Price | 29.9 | 1.31 |
Rajon Rondo | 29.9 | 1.31 |
Jason Terry | 29.8 | 1.30 |
Terrell Brandon | 29.8 | 1.30 |
Vlade Divac | 29.8 | 1.30 |
Detlef Schrempf | 29.6 | 1.29 |
Mark Eaton | 28.8 | 1.26 |
AC Green | 28.6 | 1.25 |
Dray | 28.5 | 1.24 |
Sam Perkins | 28.5 | 1.24 |
Robert Parish | 28.4 | 1.24 |
Bill Walton | 28.3 | 1.24 |
Millsap | 28.1 | 1.23 |
Sam Jones | 27.9 | 1.22 |
Terry Porter | 27.8 | 1.21 |
Bobby Jones | 27.3 | 1.19 |
Doc Rivers | 27.3 | 1.19 |
Tyson Chandler | 27.3 | 1.19 |
Nate McMillan | 25.7 | 1.12 |
Manu | 25.4 | 1.11 |
Tree Rollins | 20.8 | 0.91 |
And that’s that for longevity. Let’s look at the overall leaderboard for it before we move on to our new cumulative leaderboard. There will be some significant changes this time.
Player | LONGEVITY GOAT POINTS |
Kareem | 9.45 |
Karl Malone | 9.07 |
Dirk | 8.89 |
KG | 8.68 |
LeBron | 8.63 |
Robert Parish | 8.63 |
Moses | 8.59 |
Stockton | 8.56 |
Vince | 8.52 |
Kidd | 8.51 |
Elvin Hayes | 8.34 |
Reggie | 8.30 |
Kobe | 8.29 |
Tim Duncan | 8.28 |
Gary Payton | 8.15 |
Artis Gilmore | 8.14 |
Paul Pierce | 8.06 |
Ray Allen | 8.01 |
John Havlicek | 7.97 |
Jason Terry | 7.87 |
Clifford Robinson | 7.85 |
Dr J | 7.81 |
Joe Johnson | 7.78 |
Wilt | 7.74 |
Hakeem | 7.71 |
Buck Williams | 7.70 |
Melo | 7.69 |
Andre Miller | 7.50 |
Dan Issel | 7.46 |
Shaq | 7.45 |
Pau | 7.40 |
Otis Thorpe | 7.37 |
Oscar | 7.36 |
Pippen | 7.33 |
Dwight | 7.31 |
Ewing | 7.29 |
Iggy | 7.26 |
Tony Parker | 7.22 |
Shawn Marion | 7.21 |
Chris Paul | 7.17 |
Sam Perkins | 7.15 |
MJ | 7.15 |
Nash | 7.13 |
AC Green | 7.13 |
Hal Greer | 7.11 |
Horace Grant | 7.09 |
Alex English | 7.08 |
Terry Porter | 7.02 |
Chuck | 6.99 |
Dikembe | 6.98 |
Bill Russell | 6.96 |
Walt Bellamy | 6.90 |
Dominique | 6.88 |
Lenny Wilkens | 6.87 |
Clyde Drexler | 6.85 |
Jack Sikma | 6.83 |
Rick Barry | 6.79 |
Sheed Wallace | 6.76 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 6.71 |
D Wade | 6.62 |
George Gervin | 6.62 |
Mo Cheeks | 6.62 |
AI | 6.59 |
Vlade Divac | 6.59 |
Detlef Schrempf | 6.58 |
Elton Brand | 6.55 |
Russ | 6.54 |
Wes Unseld | 6.52 |
Jerry West | 6.51 |
Rod Strickland | 6.49 |
Jeff Hornacek | 6.49 |
Nate Thurmond | 6.49 |
Grant Hill | 6.48 |
IT | 6.48 |
Bill Laimbeer | 6.48 |
Tyson Chandler | 6.45 |
Dolph Schayes | 6.38 |
David Robinson | 6.37 |
Chet Walker | 6.37 |
Chauncey | 6.34 |
KD | 6.33 |
Adrian Dantley | 6.31 |
Kyle Lowry | 6.27 |
Larry | 6.26 |
Millsap | 6.19 |
Eddie Jones | 6.18 |
Mullin | 6.16 |
Magic | 6.15 |
Elgin Baylor | 6.14 |
Harden | 6.14 |
Bob Lanier | 6.12 |
Bob Cousy | 6.11 |
Dave Bing | 6.10 |
Bosh | 6.01 |
Bailey Howell | 5.95 |
Horford | 5.95 |
Jerry Lucas | 5.95 |
T-Mac | 5.94 |
McHale | 5.94 |
Larry Nance | 5.92 |
Dave DeBusschere | 5.91 |
Mookie Blaylock | 5.90 |
Tiny Archibald | 5.90 |
James Worthy | 5.86 |
Tim Hardaway | 5.83 |
Earl Monroe | 5.82 |
Walt Frazier | 5.81 |
CWebb | 5.81 |
Manu | 5.79 |
Rajon Rondo | 5.77 |
Zelmo Beaty | 5.77 |
Bob Pettit | 5.76 |
Tree Rollins | 5.75 |
Dennis Rodman | 5.72 |
Marc Gasol | 5.67 |
Dave Cowens | 5.61 |
Bob McAdoo | 5.57 |
Steph | 5.54 |
Bobby Jones | 5.46 |
Paul Arizin | 5.32 |
Billy Cunningham | 5.32 |
Alonzo Mourning | 5.31 |
Mark Eaton | 5.29 |
Sam Jones | 5.19 |
K Love | 5.18 |
Dame | 5.14 |
Doc Rivers | 5.11 |
Alvin Robertson | 5.09 |
Kevin Johnson | 5.08 |
Paul George | 5.05 |
AK47 | 5.03 |
Fat Lever | 4.96 |
Pistol Pete | 4.93 |
Blake | 4.93 |
Sidney Moncrief | 4.91 |
Marques Johnson | 4.88 |
Bill Sharman | 4.79 |
Jimmy | 4.78 |
Willis Reed | 4.77 |
Ed Macauley | 4.74 |
Terrell Brandon | 4.68 |
Mark Price | 4.67 |
Nate McMillan | 4.66 |
D Rose | 4.58 |
Giannis | 4.58 |
Klay | 4.56 |
Kyrie | 4.47 |
AD | 4.46 |
Dray | 4.39 |
David Thompson | 4.28 |
Gobert | 4.16 |
Kawhi | 4.10 |
KAT | 3.85 |
Jokic | 3.80 |
Yao | 3.75 |
George Mikan | 3.65 |
Bill Walton | 3.38 |
And the new cumulative leaderboard –
Player | TOTAL GOAT POINTS |
LeBron | 24.59 |
Wilt | 24.37 |
Kareem | 23.64 |
Karl Malone | 23.49 |
KG | 22.96 |
Hakeem | 22.64 |
Tim Duncan | 22.57 |
Kidd | 22.49 |
Stockton | 22.49 |
MJ | 22.49 |
Dirk | 22.33 |
Larry | 22.24 |
Dr J | 22.23 |
Kobe | 22.08 |
Chuck | 22.00 |
Chris Paul | 21.97 |
Shaq | 21.86 |
Moses | 21.70 |
Magic | 21.62 |
David Robinson | 21.62 |
Artis Gilmore | 21.56 |
Oscar | 21.55 |
Russ | 21.42 |
Elvin Hayes | 21.32 |
KD | 21.09 |
Paul Pierce | 21.05 |
Bill Russell | 21.04 |
Dwight | 21.04 |
Gary Payton | 20.96 |
Harden | 20.93 |
Pau | 20.86 |
Clyde Drexler | 20.76 |
Ewing | 20.71 |
AI | 20.64 |
Pippen | 20.59 |
Vince | 20.51 |
Rick Barry | 20.45 |
Robert Parish | 20.35 |
Walt Bellamy | 20.35 |
Reggie | 20.35 |
Shawn Marion | 20.34 |
Ray Allen | 20.33 |
Bob Pettit | 20.29 |
John Havlicek | 20.25 |
Melo | 20.20 |
Dominique | 20.20 |
D Wade | 20.17 |
Nash | 20.12 |
Steph | 20.12 |
CWebb | 20.04 |
Elgin Baylor | 20.01 |
Dan Issel | 19.97 |
Jerry West | 19.96 |
AD | 19.77 |
Jack Sikma | 19.72 |
Dolph Schayes | 19.67 |
T-Mac | 19.64 |
IT | 19.45 |
Nate Thurmond | 19.44 |
Jerry Lucas | 19.43 |
Giannis | 19.36 |
Bob Lanier | 19.35 |
LaMarcus Aldridge | 19.32 |
Jokic | 19.28 |
Tim Hardaway | 19.20 |
George Gervin | 19.10 |
Wes Unseld | 19.10 |
Andre Miller | 19.09 |
Terry Porter | 19.09 |
Buck Williams | 19.09 |
Joe Johnson | 19.05 |
Jason Terry | 19.03 |
Clifford Robinson | 19.02 |
Dikembe | 18.98 |
Iggy | 18.98 |
Vlade Divac | 18.97 |
Grant Hill | 18.96 |
Alex English | 18.94 |
Elton Brand | 18.94 |
Bosh | 18.91 |
Sheed Wallace | 18.88 |
Mookie Blaylock | 18.88 |
K Love | 18.88 |
Horford | 18.83 |
Kyle Lowry | 18.81 |
Bob Cousy | 18.73 |
Lenny Wilkens | 18.72 |
KAT | 18.71 |
Dame | 18.70 |
Tony Parker | 18.69 |
Bill Laimbeer | 18.69 |
Rod Strickland | 18.68 |
Billy Cunningham | 18.67 |
George Mikan | 18.66 |
Mullin | 18.66 |
Jeff Hornacek | 18.63 |
Millsap | 18.58 |
Sam Perkins | 18.57 |
Chauncey | 18.55 |
Larry Nance | 18.47 |
Horace Grant | 18.46 |
Hal Greer | 18.43 |
Detlef Schrempf | 18.40 |
Alonzo Mourning | 18.38 |
Mo Cheeks | 18.31 |
Paul George | 18.30 |
Marc Gasol | 18.24 |
Eddie Jones | 18.24 |
Kevin Johnson | 18.23 |
Bob McAdoo | 18.20 |
Otis Thorpe | 18.20 |
Dave Cowens | 18.17 |
Chet Walker | 18.14 |
Bailey Howell | 18.13 |
Blake | 18.07 |
Adrian Dantley | 18.04 |
Dave Bing | 18.04 |
McHale | 18.01 |
Dave DeBusschere | 18.01 |
AC Green | 18.00 |
Paul Arizin | 17.99 |
Manu | 17.95 |
Fat Lever | 17.93 |
Jimmy | 17.93 |
Kawhi | 17.93 |
Rajon Rondo | 17.92 |
Kyrie | 17.77 |
Dennis Rodman | 17.68 |
AK47 | 17.67 |
Mark Price | 17.62 |
Gobert | 17.60 |
Willis Reed | 17.58 |
Alvin Robertson | 17.56 |
Zelmo Beaty | 17.54 |
Tiny Archibald | 17.47 |
Tyson Chandler | 17.45 |
Ed Macauley | 17.42 |
James Worthy | 17.34 |
Walt Frazier | 17.31 |
Terrell Brandon | 17.15 |
Pistol Pete | 17.10 |
Marques Johnson | 17.07 |
Doc Rivers | 16.85 |
Dray | 16.83 |
Yao | 16.74 |
Bobby Jones | 16.74 |
Sidney Moncrief | 16.61 |
D Rose | 16.52 |
Sam Jones | 16.50 |
Bill Sharman | 16.40 |
Nate McMillan | 16.27 |
Bill Walton | 16.23 |
David Thompson | 16.19 |
Klay | 16.07 |
Tree Rollins | 15.82 |
Earl Monroe | 15.66 |
Mark Eaton | 15.48 |
Some notes –
- Keep in mind that this is again a look at the leaderboard after just one more category. Consistently being in the top tier (like LeBron and MJ and Wilt have been) is more important than showing up after any given category – obviously barring the last one. There’s still plenty on the board.
- LeBron jumps into the lead. Will he be able to hold it?
- Kareem leads a charge of players jumping up within or into the top ten – Karl Malone, KG, Hakeem, Tim Duncan, Kidd, Stockton
- MJ still holding on to a top ten spot before we even get to some of the categories that some would say make up the entirety of his GOAT argument. The man was a great player.
- Kobe and Moses Malone make big leaps into the top 20
- Current players are hit pretty hard by this category – Steph falls to 49, AD to 54, Giannis to 61, Jokic to 64, KAT to 88, Dame to 89. There’s still a lot of time for them to climb back up, but this is one of the reasons we need to make sure to point to longevity in the overall discussion.
- Another name with a big drop – George Mikan is all the way down to 94. That’s one of the downsides of an eight year career.
- Some other big names that are still pretty low – Isiah Thomas (58), Kawhi (125), Kyrie (127), Draymond (144), Klay (154)
Next up is the advanced metrics, and we’ll do offensive, defensive, and then overall. We’ll be shifting to a new page to keep going since the site is starting to mess with me as I try to add more to this one…