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The Official Michael Regan NBA GOAT Rankings – Intro and a Big Chunk of Work

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A quick note before we start this – this is really long. It couldn’t even fit in one article; the site started deleting things on me as I tried to add them. There are a bunch of tables and a decent amount of paragraphs and just a lot of things. So a quick run over where everything is is in order. Immediately after this, I will (relatively) quickly go over what the point of all this is, what greatest means to me, the factors that I used to pick our 157 players (who are not necessarily the 157 greatest players of all-time but should contain the top 100 or more), and then a very brief overiew of the categories we’re taking into account and how much they’re worth. After that is a decent chunk of the work, for lack of a better word, where you will find deeper descriptions of the categories and subcategories and their values, all of the tables that rank all of those players based on those categories and subcategories, and more tables that keep us updated on the overall leaderboard as we go. Our second article, which is also linked at the very end of this one, contains some more work. Our third article contains the rest of the work. Our final article contains the final GOAT list, which stands on its own there. By reading the little intro that follows here and then going to the list itself, you’d probably get what you need and want. But all of the work in between should answer any deeper questions on how exactly we arrived at the final list.

I’m starting this on June 17, which means Steph Curry just sealed his fourth title less than twelve hours ago (ignore the fact that it’s now October 17). It’s another significant accolade in the trophy cabinet of one of the game’s all-time greats, and that means it’s time to fire up the engines and get back to the debate that never ends. Who’s the greatest NBA player of all time, and in what order do all the other greats follow them? It’s an inherently endless debate given the lack of definite categories to consider and, equally if not more important, the lack of agreement on how we should weigh all of those potential categories. What does a title mean? An All-NBA appearance? Points? Assists? Advanced metrics? The elusive eye test? There’s no single objective approach to take here, even if we only take the objective numerical stats into account.

And that’s where we need to start here. Basketball is a beautiful game, and it’s meant to be played out in front of our eyes. The strategy, the athletic feats, the butterflies during crunch time; these aren’t replaceable by numbers. But when it comes to accurately measuring players, rather than simply enjoying the game, we need to work on closing our eyes a little bit. The eye test is a great tool. There are things the numbers can’t tell us that body language, feel for the game, and more can. But relying on the eye test leaves us with a severely flawed picture, one that, to give the stereotypical example, might emphasize the ball skills of a Jamal Crawford over the less flashy but likely more important contributions of a solid three-and-D wing. We all have players that we watched in college or early in their careers that were going to be that guy – until they weren’t. We have lying eyes. We also can’t see the past nearly as well as we see the future, and there is undoubtedly a bias towards the players we grow up with and watch the most. These things matter in an all-time debate. None of this is to say that the accolades or numbers are perfect. Defensive stats are notoriously messy, and there are flaws in comparing across eras, especially with advanced stats that often don’t carry back very many decades. Accolades are difficult to judge across eras too given the differences in how difficult they are to achieve in any given year and the lack of certain accolades in early league history. But there is at least some solid ground to stand on there. We can argue all day about our opinions after watching LeBron or KD, and there’s no way to definitively win that debate. No such argument exists when we can say Player A won this and averaged that while Player B won that and averaged this. So we will limit this to accolades and stats, and we’ll get into the weighing and attempts to add era-based context later.

Before we get there, let’s touch on two more important elements. First, what does greatest mean? It’s a pretty crucial question to answer. Because Tracy McGrady may have been a better basketball player – a more talented basketball player – than, say, Shawn Marion (I may be giving Shawn some unnecessary flack here but he’s the first name that popped into my head). Kyrie Irving may be a better basketball player than Bob Cousy was. But that’s not what we’re talking about here. We’re ranking players by the greatness of their careers – how much did they produce, how much did they accomplish, and how long were they able to play at a high level. We’re not arguing about peak LeBron vs. peak Jordan in a game of one v. one or some hypothetical game where they have the exact same rosters around them. How do their careers stack up? This is another reason we can pass on the eye test. It’s a useful tool, but much of that use is lost when we go from judging how good an individual player was/is to judging how great their career was. To be blunt, what they did matters, and it doesn’t really matter how they looked doing it.

Second, before we go through the details of what to consider, we need to decide who to consider. In the past, I’ve broken small groups of players into subjective tiers before going for the more objective comparisons between them. Here, we’re going to try to consider a much larger pool of players all at once. So what gets you on the list?

  • 90+ career win shares

There’s era-to-era variation in this, but you’re generally looking at 8-11 win shares in any given season being enough to put you in the league’s top 15. Multiply that by 10 to give someone the equivalent of ten top fifteen seasons, a relatively decent marker for sustained success, and we get to 80-110 career win shares. Then we consider a little bit of extra longevity and pick 95 and call it a day. This is fairly arbitrary, but it does a good job of using an overall measure of impact to give us an initial big group of deserving players to work with without going too crazy. And it leaves us with exactly 100 players, presented in order of career win shares (note: ABA stats included).

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

LeBron James

Wilt Chamberlain

Karl Malone

Michael Jordan

John Stockton

Tim Duncan

Dirk Nowitzki

Chris Paul

Kevin Garnett

Artis Gilmore

Oscar Robertson

Shaquille O’Neal

Julius Erving

Moses Malone

David Robinson

Charles Barkley

Reggie Miller

Kobe Bryant

Bill Russell

Hakeem Olajuwon

Jerry West

Dan Issel

Magic Johnson

Kevin Durant

Paul Pierce

James Harden

Robert Parish

Larry Bird

Gary Payton

Ray Allen

Pau Gasol

Dolph Schayes

Dwight Howard

Jason Kidd

Bob Pettit

Clyde Drexler

Adrian Dantely

John Havlicek

Walt Bellamy

Steve Nash

Rick Barry

Patrick Ewing

Vince Carter

Scottie Pippen

Shawn Marion

Chauncey Billups

Elvin Hayes

Dwyane Wade

Stephen Curry

Buck Williams

Horace Grant

Dominique Wilkins

Chet Walker

Bob Lanier

Dikembe Mutombo

George Gervin

LaMarcus Aldridge

Bailey Howell

Walt Frazier

Kevin McHale

Jack Sikma

Tony Parker

Terry Porter

Wes Unseld

Elton Brand

Larry Nance (Sr)

Detlef Schrempf

Jeff Hornacek

Paul Arizin

George Mikan

Carmelo Anthony

Russell Westbrook

Manu Ginobli

Otis Thorpe

Zelmo Beaty

Chris Bosh

Bill Laimbeer

Sam Perkins

Rasheed Wallace

Kyle Lowry

Elgin Baylor

Maurice Cheeks

Hal Greer

Tyson Chandler

Jason Terry

Andre Miller

Alex English

Eddie Jones

Ed Macauley

Al Horford

Andre Iguodala

Grant Hill

AC Green

Allen Iverson

Jerry Lucas

Tracy McGrady

Vlade Divac

Lenny Wilkens

Paul Millsap

  • Career VORP above 40

Unlike win shares, VORP doesn’t go back to the league’s earliest days, but we still have about 50 years of data to go with here. Using the same idea as above, we get a VORP of of somewhere around 4, give or take a point across eras, being good for top fifteen in the league. Multiply that by 10 and we get the 45 number. There are only sixty-two players in league history that meet this benchmark, and only ten of them are new additions to the list, bringing our total number to 110.

Nikola Jokic

Damian Lillard

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Anthony Davis

Chris Webber

Andrei Kirilenko

Isiah Thomas

Chris Mullin

Bobby Jones

Kawhi Leonard

  • Career BPM over 3

You’ve generally needed a BPM over 4 to finish in the top fifteen in any given season, but since this is an average stat rather than a cumulative stat (in other words the stat itself tends to go down as a player plays late into their career rather than the rate at which the stat increases going down), we’ll cut down to 3 to get a few more potentially worthy options. This will include some current players that maybe aren’t deserving but are still at or near the peak of their powers (KAT), but that’s a sacrifice we’ll have to make. This adds 19 more names, bringing us to 129 overall.

Karl-Anthony Towns

Jimmy Butler

Kyrie Irving

Paul George

Rudy Gobert

Kevin Johnson

Mark Price

Sidney Moncrief

Terrell Brandon

Blake Griffin

Kevin Love

Fat Lever

Marques Johnson

Nate McMillan

Yao Ming

Doc Rivers

Tim Hardaway

Marc Gasol

Mookie Blaylock

  • An MVP

There can be some debate here, but the MVP suggests that this player had at least one season where they were a reasonable pick to be the best player in the league. That’s a significant claim to be able to make, and there are very few cases (barring maybe Derrick Rose) where that type of season is relatively unique in the larger story of the player’s career. This adds 6 names to the list, bringing us to 135.

Derrick Rose

Bill Walton

Bob McAdoo

Dave Cowens

Willis Reed

Bob Cousy

  • Last Additions

I’ll add a few other names for longevity, peak, etc.

Joe Johnson (top 30 minutes played)

Clifford Robinson (top 30 minutes played)

Rod Strickland (top 20 assists)

Nate Thurmond (top 15 rebounds)

Alvin Robertson (top 15 steals in just 10 seasons)

Tree Rollins (top 10 blocks)

Mark Eaton (top 10 blocks)

Draymond Green

Rajon Rondo

Klay Thompson

Pete Maravich

David Thompson

Alonzo Mourning

James Worthy

Bill Sharman

Dennis Rodman

Earl Monroe

Sam Jones

Dave DeBusschere

Billy Cunningham

Dave Bing

Nate Archibald

Alright. That’s 157 names. Let’s get after it.

So now for the important part – how exactly do we do this? What goes into this ranking? Here’s how I see all of the possible categories and their respective weights. There are a variety of subcategories we can look into for each one. For example, scoring includes pure volume, efficiency, perimeter shooting, and free throw effectiveness, which is a lot more complicated statistically than something like rebounding, where there are just a few stats that we can reliably use. We’ll get to the those subcategories and their weight within a category as we move along. Also note here that we won’t be tracking something like career points under scoring, since that would just be a repetitive measure of the longevity category. The weights themselves are based on a (subjective) view of how much this stuff matters. How does scoring stack up with blocks or longevity or championships?

CategoryPoints
Scoring 10
Playmaking5
Rebounding5
Steals 2
Blocks2
Fouls1
Longevity10
Offensive Advanced Metrics3
Defensive Advanced Metrics3
Overall Advanced Metrics8
Regular Season Awards10
Championships and Role14
Finals Record and Appearances7
Playoff Record7.5
Our categories

We get a sum of 100 here. Essentially, how this is going to work is that the top mark in any given subcategory gets the full point allotment and then everyone else gets a certain percentage of that total given how they stack up relative to the top mark. And then we add the numbers up across all the categories and rank everyone based on how high their final number, which will be somewhere between 0 and 100. Simple enough. I have two categories that I cut at the end, and I will discuss those at the end of our work. To scoring we go.

SCORING (10)

Scoring gets a high value here, almost as high as any other category. Part of the reason is that scoring itself is important. It’s not the only important stat or contribution that one can make, and there is the risk of overvaluing a player just because they score a decent amount of points. But there is ultimately no statistic or skill that has a more direct effect on winning a basketball game than the ability to put ball in basket. And it’s very often the best players that are asked to do it the most and still do it with decent efficiency. The other reason – we can break down scoring into a lot more subcategories than something like rebounding, and the higher value here allows us to give some of those subcategories the weight they deserve.

Subcategories:

  • Pure Volume (4) – Points per game (2.5), Points per 36 minutes (1.5)
  • Efficiency (3) – FG% (1.5), TS% (1.5)
  • Perimeter Shooting (2) – Threes per game (0.5), Made threes per game (0.5), 3P% (1)
  • Free Throw Effectiveness (1) – Free throws per game (0.3), FT per FG attempt (0.2), FT% (0.5)

Let’s start with pure volume. We could just look at simple points per game, but that doesn’t take into account the differences between eras. The late 40s and early 50s were very low scoring, for example. The 60s were very high scoring. The 70s and 80s were somewhere in the middle before the mid 90s kicked off a roughly 20 year span of the league’s lowest scoring days since the very beginning. The last five or so years have returned to something similar to the 70s and 80s. The same number of individual points has been a different part of the overall scoring puzzle across eras. To adjust for this, I took the league’s highest scoring season (1962), and set that 118.8 points per game (per team not combined) figure as the standard. I then divided 118.8 by the average team scoring per game in every other NBA season. This led to a multiplier of 1-something for every single season. I then took the average of the multipler’s for the seasons of a player’s career (so the average of the multipliers from 2004-2022 for LeBron for example) and multiplied that average by the player’s points per game career average. So this new era-adjusted figure we have is above everyone’s career average, but that increase was more for players that played in low-scoring eras such as the first decade or the late 90s and 2000s. We then ranked players by their era-adjusted scoring total, with MJ at the top with 34.57 “points” per game. So Jordan gets 2.5 points for the points per game subcategory. To determine everyone else’s score, I divided their era-adjusted average by 34.57 and then multiplied this number by 2.5 to give them a score based on their position relative to Jordan. This is going to be the first of many massive leaderboards, but here it is, with EA standing for era-adjusted. Remember that this is just our 157 players, and not the all-time leaderboard for PPG specifically, though you’d certainly see a very similar list at the top either way.

One other quick note – some of the multipliers throughout will read as “1899-12”. I frankly have no idea what this means and can only assume it’s a weird quirk of Google Sheets, which I had to use instead of Excel. But the important thing is that this figure still attributes the correct multiplier; it just says 1899-12 for some reason.

PlayerPPGMultiplierEA PPGGOAT POINTS
MJ30.11.14858852634.572.50
AI26.71.22953288532.832.37
George Mikan23.11.40110791232.782.37
LeBron27.11.16573182231.592.28
Wilt30.11.04181130531.362.27
KD27.21.14842294131.242.26
Kobe251.21859452130.462.20
Karl Malone251.17724142129.432.13
Bob Pettit26.41.09929829929.022.10
Shaq23.71.21423407628.782.08
Elgin Baylor27.41.04137398428.532.06
Harden24.91.14224268628.442.06
Jerry West271.04849559628.312.05
Dominique24.81.13982228.272.04
Paul Arizin22.81.22336086827.892.02
Steph24.31.14224268627.762.01
Dame24.61.12394720527.652.00
George Gervin25.11.08717639327.291.97
Oscar25.71.04849559626.951.95
Kareem24.61.09181388726.861.94
AD23.81.12394720526.751.93
Rick Barry24.81.0774122726.721.93
Pistol Pete24.21.10343242426.701.93
Larry24.31.0943809726.591.92
Adrian Dantley24.31.09241559226.551.92
Dr J24.21.08425926526.241.90
Melo22.51.16573182226.231.90
Kyrie23.11.13391971926.191.89
Russ22.81.14551106626.121.89
D Wade221899-1226.061.88
Chuck22.11.15134284925.441.84
KAT23.21.09488932125.401.84
CWebb20.71.2252136225.361.83
Hakeem21.81.16214606725.331.83
David Robinson21.11.1964812125.251.83
Dirk20.71.20067349824.851.80
David Thompson22.71.0885842424.711.79
Ewing211.16743688524.521.77
Dan Issel22.61.08001262924.411.77
Bob McAdoo22.11.10117442324.341.76
Giannis21.81.11427365224.291.76
T-Mac19.61.22759134324.061.74
Paul Pierce19.71.21201086323.881.73
Alex English21.51.09241559223.491.70
Paul George20.41.13882399923.231.68
Tim Duncan191.21820443323.151.67
Ray Allen18.91.22372906323.131.67
Bosh19.21.20318820523.101.67
Clyde Drexler20.41.13233999323.101.67
Yao191.21388878623.061.67
Ed Macauley17.51.31290476422.981.66
Elvin Hayes211.09231592522.941.66
Billy Cunningham21.21.06801760322.641.64
Blake19.81.13882399922.551.63
Dolph Schayes18.51.21773041922.531.63
Moses20.31.10445711122.421.62
John Havlicek20.81.07377198622.331.62
Bill Sharman17.81.24366640122.141.60
Bob Lanier20.11899-1222.111.60
Klay19.51.13391971922.111.60
LaMarcus Aldridge19.11899-1222.001.59
Dave Bing20.31.08141778721.951.59
Kawhi19.21.13989758621.891.58
Marques Johnson20.11.08569921.821.58
KG17.81.21742191821.671.57
Reggie18.21.19059925521.671.57
Jokic19.71.09488932121.571.56
Magic19.51.09943979521.441.55
Walt Bellamy20.11.05935042121.291.54
IT19.21.10305399421.181.53
Tim Hardaway17.71.1964812121.181.53
Mullin18.21.16265299921.161.53
Bob Cousy18.41.14951686321.151.53
Chris Paul18.11.15616081220.931.51
Kevin Johnson17.91.16848159920.921.51
D Rose18.21.14551106620.851.51
Alonzo Mourning17.11.21915058920.851.51
Tiny Archibald18.81.10008423320.681.50
Walt Frazier18.91.08685136120.541.49
Earl Monroe18.81.08685136120.431.48
Grant Hill16.71.22191857920.411.48
Artis Gilmore18.81.08506558720.401.48
Pau171.19142078520.251.46
K Love17.61.14551106620.161.46
Hal Greer19.21.04555520.071.45
Jimmy17.71.13391971920.071.45
Vince16.71.19439796619.951.44
Willis Reed18.71.0572385319.771.43
Gary Payton16.31.2095892419.721.43
McHale17.91.09755719.651.42
James Worthy17.61.10381493919.431.40
Dave Cowens17.61.10265955619.411.40
Chet Walker18.21.06391583819.361.40
Bailey Howell18.71899-1219.331.40
Elton Brand15.91899-1219.271.39
Pippen16.11.1887390819.141.38
Larry Nance17.11.10305399418.861.36
Joe Johnson161.17343309718.771.36
Chauncey15.21.22359511418.601.34
Sam Jones17.71.04505900118.501.34
Shawn Marion15.21.21559349318.481.34
Tony Parker15.51899-1218.471.34
Dwight15.71.1598308918.211.32
Eddie Jones14.81.22912578218.191.32
Zelmo Beaty17.11.05739367218.081.31
Jerry Lucas171.05842323317.991.30
Sheed Wallace14.41.22471418717.641.28
Nash14.31.22372906317.501.27
Mark Price15.21.14631989417.421.26
Lenny Wilkens16.51.05578887217.421.26
Clifford Robinson14.21.20407208117.101.24
Kyle Lowry14.81.15187447117.051.23
Sidney Moncrief15.61.0915622917.031.23
Jack Sikma15.61899-1217.021.23
Dave DeBusschere16.11.05608426317.001.23
Jeff Hornacek14.51.16223167816.851.22
Terrell Brandon13.81.20669577216.651.20
Otis Thorpe141.15733236216.201.17
Detlef Schrempf13.91.16265299916.161.17
Robert Parish14.51.11450767416.161.17
Nate Thurmond151.07536180816.131.17
Jason Terry13.41.2025713116.111.17
Marc Gasol141.15100106716.111.17
Mookie Blaylock13.51.19242504516.101.16
Bill Russell15.11.05642146915.951.15
Manu13.31.19582810915.901.15
Rod Strickland13.21.19604822715.791.14
Horford13.71.14842294115.731.14
Alvin Robertson141.11978306715.681.13
Millsap13.41.15187447115.441.12
Kidd12.61.22191857915.401.11
Fat Lever13.91.10381493915.341.11
Stockton13.11.16672845115.281.11
Andre Miller12.51.21213312815.151.10
Bill Walton13.31.09764613514.601.06
Buck Williams12.81.12787961314.441.04
AK4711.81.21270498514.311.03
Terry Porter12.21899-1214.241.03
Bill Laimbeer12.91.10276316814.231.03
Vlade Divac11.81.20280673614.191.03
Gobert12.41.11427365213.821.00
Sam Perkins11.91.15733236213.771.00
Horace Grant11.21899-1213.310.96
Iggy11.41.1598308913.220.96
Bobby Jones12.11.08661766813.150.95
Doc Rivers10.91.11664737512.170.88
Mo Cheeks11.11.09548135312.160.88
Dikembe9.81.21236747511.880.86
Wes Unseld10.81899-1211.800.85
Rajon Rondo9.81.15187447111.290.82
AC Green9.61.16265299911.160.81
Dray8.71.1239472059.780.71
Tyson Chandler8.21.1846413659.710.70
Dennis Rodman7.31.1622316788.480.61
Nate McMillan5.91.1463198946.760.49
Mark Eaton61.0977578116.590.48
Tree Rollins5.41.1038440095.960.43
PPG

We can do the same exact thing (just 1.5 GOAT points instead of 2.5) with points per 36. This gives a slightly more zoomed in picture of scoring rate rather than one that is dependent on how much a player plays in each game. This can be a misleading stat for players that irregularly play but put up a few big showings in their five-to-ten minute runs, but it can be genuinely helpful in giving a little more rate refinement when comparing players of a similar stature. Giannis, for example, is a player that scores a ton of points despite usually playing five or so minutes less than your average star. You can talk about the minutes side of that too, but on a pure scoring basis, it does mean that Giannis – or someone like KD as we’ll see below – is scoring more efficiently time-wise than their peers. The same process as above results in the table below. I will save a check on the overall GOAT points leaderboard until the end of each big category (so the end of all of the scoring), so the rightmost column here is just in reference to points per 36. Once again, there is an era-adjustment –

PlayerPP36EAPP36GOAT POINTS
MJ28.31.14858852632.511.50
KD26.61.14842294130.551.41
Kobe24.91.21859452130.341.40
Shaq24.61.21423407629.871.38
LeBron25.61.16573182229.841.38
Harden25.91.14224268629.581.36
George Gervin26.91.08717639329.251.35
Steph25.51.14224268629.131.34
Dominique25.21.13982228.721.33
AI23.31.22953288528.651.32
George Mikan20.11.4189737228.521.32
Karl Malone24.21.17724142128.491.31
AD24.91.12394720527.991.29
Kyrie24.41.13391971927.671.28
D Wade23.31899-1227.601.27
Dame24.41.12394720527.421.27
Melo23.41.16573182227.281.26
Russ23.71.14551106627.151.25
David Thompson24.91.0885842427.111.25
Bob Pettit24.51.09929829926.931.24
Giannis24.11.11427365226.851.24
Paul Arizin21.91.22336086826.791.24
KAT24.41.09488932126.721.23
Adrian Dantley24.41.09241559226.651.23
Dirk22.11.20067349826.531.22
T-Mac21.61.22759134326.521.22
Alex English24.21.09241559226.441.22
Bob McAdoo23.91.10117442326.321.21
Kareem24.11.09181388726.311.21
David Robinson21.81.1964812126.081.20
Pistol Pete23.61.10343242426.041.20
Jerry West24.81.04849559626.001.20
Dr J23.91.08425926525.911.20
Rick Barry23.91.0774122725.751.19
Ewing221.16743688525.681.19
Elgin Baylor24.61.04137398425.621.18
Dan Issel23.71.08001262925.601.18
Jokic23.31.09488932125.511.18
Yao211.21388878625.491.18
Hakeem21.91.16214606725.451.17
Bill Sharman20.31.24366640125.251.16
Kawhi22.11.13989758625.191.16
Paul Pierce20.71.21201086325.091.16
Chuck21.71.15134284924.981.15
Larry22.81.0943809724.951.15
Paul George21.91.13882399924.941.15
Blake21.71.13882399924.711.14
CWebb20.11.2252136224.631.14
Wilt23.61.04181130524.591.13
Tim Duncan20.11.21820443324.491.13
Klay21.41.13391971924.271.12
Alonzo Mourning19.81.21915058924.141.11
Clyde Drexler21.31.13233999324.121.11
Vince201.19439796623.891.10
Dolph Schayes19.61.21773041923.871.10
Sam Jones22.81.04505900123.831.10
Bob Lanier21.61899-1223.761.10
Moses21.51.10445711123.751.10
D Rose20.71.14551106623.711.09
LaMarcus Aldridge20.41899-1223.501.08
K Love20.51.14551106623.481.08
Billy Cunningham21.91.06801760323.391.08
Bosh19.41.20318820523.341.08
Mullin201.16265299923.251.07
Ray Allen191.22372906323.251.07
Earl Monroe21.21.08685136123.041.06
Ed Macauley17.51.31290476422.981.06
Oscar21.91.04849559622.961.06
Marques Johnson21.11.08569922.911.06
Reggie19.11.19059925522.741.05
McHale20.71.09755722.721.05
KG18.61.21742191822.641.04
Manu18.81.19582810922.481.04
Kevin Johnson18.91.16848159922.081.02
John Havlicek20.41.07377198621.901.01
Chris Paul18.91.15616081221.851.01
Bob Cousy191.14951686321.841.01
Pau18.31.19142078521.801.01
Tony Parker18.31899-1221.801.01
Jimmy19.21.13391971921.771.00
Dave Bing20.11.08141778721.741.00
Tim Hardaway18.11.1964812121.661.00
James Worthy19.61.10381493921.631.00
Grant Hill17.71.22191857921.631.00
Bailey Howell20.91899-1221.601.00
Chet Walker20.31.06391583821.601.00
Elvin Hayes19.71.09231592521.520.99
Magic19.21.09943979521.110.97
Elton Brand17.41899-1221.090.97
IT19.11.10305399421.070.97
Chauncey17.21.22359511421.050.97
Mark Price18.31.14631989420.980.97
Tiny Archibald191.10008423320.900.96
Dwight17.81.1598308920.640.95
Artis Gilmore191.08506558720.620.95
Walt Bellamy19.41.05935042120.550.95
Robert Parish18.41.11450767420.510.95
Hal Greer19.51.04555520.390.94
Sidney Moncrief18.61.0915622920.300.94
Larry Nance18.41.10305399420.300.94
Gary Payton16.71.2095892420.200.93
Terrell Brandon16.71.20669577220.150.93
Willis Reed191.0572385320.090.93
Nash16.41.22372906320.070.93
Clifford Robinson16.61.20407208119.990.92
Millsap17.21.15187447119.810.91
Pippen16.61.1887390819.730.91
Walt Frazier18.11.08685136119.670.91
Detlef Schrempf16.91.16265299919.650.91
Jason Terry16.21.2025713119.480.90
Joe Johnson16.61.17343309719.480.90
Sheed Wallace15.91.22471418719.470.90
Zelmo Beaty18.41.05739367219.460.90
Shawn Marion15.91.21559349319.330.89
Jeff Hornacek16.61.16223167819.290.89
Kyle Lowry16.71.15187447119.240.89
Eddie Jones15.51.22912578219.050.88
Terry Porter15.91899-1218.560.86
Bill Walton16.91.09764613518.550.86
Rod Strickland15.51.19604822718.540.86
Otis Thorpe15.91.15733236218.400.85
Jack Sikma16.81899-1218.320.85
Dave Cowens16.51.10265955618.190.84
Marc Gasol15.71.15100106718.070.83
Alvin Robertson15.91.11978306717.800.82
Lenny Wilkens16.81.05578887217.740.82
Andre Miller14.61.21213312817.700.82
Horford15.31.14842294117.570.81
Sam Perkins15.11.15733236217.480.81
Fat Lever15.81.10381493917.440.80
Stockton14.91.16672845117.380.80
Bobby Jones15.91.08661766817.280.80
AK4714.21.21270498517.220.79
Vlade Divac14.31.20280673617.200.79
Dave DeBusschere16.21.05608426317.110.79
Jerry Lucas15.71.05842323316.620.77
Gobert14.91.11427365216.600.77
Mookie Blaylock13.91.19242504516.570.76
Bill Laimbeer14.61.10276316816.100.74
Buck Williams14.21.12787961316.020.74
Doc Rivers14.31.11664737515.970.74
Nate Thurmond14.51.07536180815.590.72
Kidd12.61.22191857915.400.71
Iggy12.71.1598308914.730.68
Horace Grant12.11899-1214.380.66
AC Green12.11.16265299914.070.65
Dikembe11.51.21236747513.940.64
Mo Cheeks12.61.09548135313.800.64
Rajon Rondo11.81.15187447113.590.63
Bill Russell12.81.05642146913.520.62
Tyson Chandler10.81.18464136512.790.59
Dray111.12394720512.360.57
Wes Unseld10.71899-1211.700.54
Tree Rollins9.41.10384400910.380.48
Dennis Rodman8.31.1622316789.650.45
Nate McMillan8.31.1463198949.510.44
Mark Eaton7.51.0977578118.230.38

Next up is efficiency, where we’ll be taking a look at FG% and TS%. I put this at 3 points and one less than pure volume largely because efficiency can tilt towards players in simpler roles, especially big men who only shoot at the rim. So that creates a comparison difficulty that’s going to decrease the value here. Efficiency is very valuable for comparing Steph to your average point guard or LeBron to your average high-volume forward, and these guys will gain an advantage over similar players for their numbers here. But you will also have the bigs like Rudy Gobert ranking super high. And that’s not a knock on Gobert or anyone else; it’s important that they finish the looks they get. That’s the job, and it doesn’t matter to the final score if the looks are easier than others or created by teammates. Those finishing bigs should get some credit for that. But the difficulty in accounting for position and role when looking at efficiency numbers is inherent, and there needs to be some limitation on the value of ranking Gobert as a more efficient scorer than a LeBron or a KD. Technically and statistically, it’s true. But Gobert would also be shooting like 20% from the floor, and maybe much less, if he was asked to take the same shots. And while one could, perhaps fairly, point out that LeBron and KD might not finish at the rim at a rate above 60% if asked to play the role of a center offensively, there is likely less of a gap there. True shooting addresses this to some degree in valuing different kinds of shots for their different point values rather than counting every shot as the exact same, but your rim-based bigs are still going to be very high there since your TS% won’t go down for not shooting threes. So, again, it’s worth comparing similar players here rather than all of the players, and the differences in efficiency will end up playing a role in separating a KD from a LeBron more than a Gobert from a Steph by the time everything is tallied up. This is why we’ll also look at things like pure scoring volume and usage rate later on to try to paint a fuller picture.

Let’s start with FG%. I did an era-adjusted figure here as well using the exact same process I used for PPG. Bob Cousy is an easy example to use here. He did shoot 37% from the field, but he also played a decent amount of his career in years where the league average FG% was barely above or even below 40%. Cousy shooting 37% in 1955 simply isn’t equivalent to Taurean Prince shooting 37% in 2020. Now, Cousy’s era-adjusted FG% of roughly 46% is still pretty low on the totem pole here, so don’t take this to mean that he was a bastion of efficiency or anything remotely close. But adjusting for era allows us to place Cousy in a more accurate spot – as a slightly less efficient player than Kyle Lowry – rather than sticking him way behind the rest of the pack. Here are the results (remember that we will sum up GOAT points at the end of each big category) –

PlayerFG%EA FG%GOAT POINTS
Gobert0.6531.0748850540.701.50
Tyson Chandler0.5971.0853122240.651.39
Dwight0.5871.0780279040.631.36
Shaq0.5821.0846988970.631.35
Wilt0.541.1245425770.611.30
Artis Gilmore0.5821.0303004670.601.28
Kareem0.5591.0407644910.581.25
Jokic0.5421.0706423820.581.24
Otis Thorpe0.5461.0547818430.581.23
Ed Macauley0.4361.3192261580.581.23
Giannis0.5351.0748850540.581.23
Bobby Jones0.561.0234574240.571.23
Alonzo Mourning0.5271.0873901920.571.23
Walt Bellamy0.5161.1076096970.571.22
Yao0.5241.0866756550.571.22
Buck Williams0.5491.0362073530.571.22
Chuck0.5411.0512926150.571.22
McHale0.5541.0212842780.571.21
KAT0.5271.0706423820.561.21
Dikembe0.5181.084028410.561.20
Larry Nance0.5461.0246264560.561.20
David Robinson0.5181.0754486670.561.19
Robert Parish0.5371.0323306850.551.19
Horford0.5151.0763929930.551.19
AD0.5151.076005820.551.19
Tim Duncan0.5061.0928178720.551.18
Adrian Dantley0.541.0225707090.551.18
Jerry Lucas0.4991.105397590.551.18
Dennis Rodman0.5211.0577413030.551.18
Pau0.5071.0861870570.551.18
Karl Malone0.5161.0667749340.551.18
George Mikan0.4041.3589933720.551.18
Bill Sharman0.4261.2846131750.551.17
Stockton0.5151.0605279720.551.17
Horace Grant0.5091899-120.551.17
LeBron0.5051.0802753270.551.17
Elton Brand0.51899-120.551.17
Zelmo Beaty0.4941.1015873870.541.17
Bailey Howell0.481899-120.541.16
KG0.4971.0909425390.541.16
Hakeem0.5121.0576060720.541.16
Wes Unseld0.5091899-120.541.16
Oscar0.4851.115392250.541.16
Mullin0.5091.0580784170.541.15
Bob Lanier0.5141899-120.541.15
Bosh0.4941.0860946240.541.15
Paul Arizin0.4211.2738062090.541.15
Tree Rollins0.5221.0263681180.541.15
Bill Walton0.5211.0277960160.541.15
Nash0.491.0922552390.541.15
James Worthy0.5211.0265089390.531.15
Ewing0.5041.0608748610.531.15
Vlade Divac0.4951.0798550880.531.15
Mo Cheeks0.5231.0209331750.531.14
KD0.4961.0763929930.531.14
Tony Parker0.4911899-120.531.14
Kawhi0.4931.0791027370.531.14
Magic0.521.0216890530.531.14
Blake0.4931.0775139930.531.14
LaMarcus Aldridge0.4931899-120.531.14
Sam Jones0.4561.162346780.531.14
Jerry West0.4741.115392250.531.13
Shawn Marion0.4841.0909907840.531.13
Bob Pettit0.4361.2110407190.531.13
Millsap0.4891.0762581690.531.13
Grant Hill0.4831.0893485750.531.13
Marques Johnson0.5181.0152461450.531.13
Willis Reed0.4761.1023114830.521.12
Jeff Hornacek0.4961.0577413030.521.12
Walt Frazier0.491.0701161250.521.12
Kevin Johnson0.4931.0602598650.521.12
AC Green0.4941.0580784170.521.12
CWebb0.4791.0905382630.521.12
MJ0.4971.05080010.521.12
Dr J0.5061.0306317460.521.12
Bob McAdoo0.5031.0347993570.521.12
D Wade0.481899-120.521.11
Detlef Schrempf0.4911.0580784170.521.11
Chet Walker0.471.1039697070.521.11
Alex English0.5071.0225707090.521.11
George Gervin0.5041.0284187730.521.11
Marc Gasol0.4811.0770817950.521.11
David Thompson0.5051.0254462620.521.11
Dan Issel0.4991.0357439790.521.11
AK470.4741.0892481920.521.11
Bill Russell0.441.172530630.521.11
Dirk0.4711.0896953810.511.10
Hal Greer0.4521.1326110460.511.10
Sidney Moncrief0.5021.0180852180.511.10
Bill Laimbeer0.4981.0237492570.511.09
Sheed Wallace0.4671.0912127180.511.09
Steph0.4731.0767240790.511.09
Chris Paul0.4731.0766959490.511.09
Moses0.4951.0280363490.511.09
Pippen0.4731.0725562830.511.09
Kyrie0.471.0780247720.511.09
Reggie0.4711.0741182190.511.08
Larry0.4961.01995350.511.08
Gary Payton0.4661.0824708360.501.08
Andre Miller0.4611.0908440070.501.08
Iggy0.4631.0780279040.501.07
Earl Monroe0.4641.0701161250.501.06
Jimmy0.461.0780247720.501.06
Mark Price0.4721.0488959790.501.06
Alvin Robertson0.4771.0353669440.491.06
Klay0.4581.0780247720.491.06
Ray Allen0.4521.0922552390.491.06
Billy Cunningham0.4521.0895034940.491.06
D Rose0.4571.0763791760.491.05
Rick Barry0.4561.0771856530.491.05
Terry Porter0.4631899-120.491.05
Clyde Drexler0.4721.0399370230.491.05
Rajon Rondo0.4561.0762581690.491.05
Elgin Baylor0.4311.1364441660.491.05
Rod Strickland0.4541.0770075260.491.05
Tiny Archibald0.4671.0465696040.491.05
Kobe0.4471.0922429130.491.05
Dave Cowens0.461.057962920.491.04
Paul Pierce0.4451.0919364560.491.04
Manu0.4471.0861564960.491.04
Sam Perkins0.4591.0547818430.481.04
Jason Terry0.4441.0889736720.481.04
Terrell Brandon0.4481.079233730.481.04
Melo0.4471.0802753270.481.03
John Havlicek0.4391.0958091890.481.03
Dominique0.4611.0434909680.481.03
Dolph Schayes0.381.265642550.481.03
Lenny Wilkens0.4321.1128051960.481.03
Dave DeBusschere0.4321.1062516460.481.02
Eddie Jones0.4371.0930199960.481.02
Joe Johnson0.4411.0830462550.481.02
Dave Bing0.4411.0824878220.481.02
Harden0.4421.0767240790.481.02
T-Mac0.4351.0939654980.481.02
Elvin Hayes0.4521.0523241210.481.02
K Love0.4411.0763791760.471.02
Dray0.4411.076005820.471.02
Vince0.4351.0887803740.471.01
Jack Sikma0.4641899-120.471.01
Clifford Robinson0.4381.0797565360.471.01
Russ0.4381.0763791760.471.01
Dame0.4371.076005820.471.01
Mark Eaton0.4581.0238466610.471.00
Paul George0.4351.0775139930.471.00
Pistol Pete0.4411.0623159130.471.00
AI0.4251.0943351030.471.00
Nate McMillan0.4431.0488959790.461.00
Tim Hardaway0.4311.0754486670.460.99
IT0.4521.0246264560.460.99
Nate Thurmond0.4211.0977328750.460.99
Fat Lever0.4471.0265089390.460.98
Doc Rivers0.4441.032646410.460.98
Kyle Lowry0.4251.0762581690.460.98
Bob Cousy0.3751.2116382210.450.97
Chauncey0.4151.0928985660.450.97
Mookie Blaylock0.4091.0725507050.440.94
Kidd0.41.0893485750.440.93
FG%

True shooting percentage is next. It’s a relatively simple way of taking the next step to measure efficiency, valuing points per shot more than the basic shots made divided by shots taken path. The formula is straightforward –

QuantityVariable["TS%", "Unitless"] == (0.5*QuantityVariable["PTS", "Unitless"])/(QuantityVariable["FGA", "Unitless"] + 0.475*QuantityVariable["FTA", "Unitless"])
TS% formula

You still have FGA on the bottom, but we look at 1/2 points rather than FGM on the top. This means a two is still worth 1 (like your typical made field goal for FG%) while a three is worth more at 1.5. And then you have the addition of the free throw accounting since points obviously include free throws as well as the twos and threes. Making every free throw will give you a number slightly above 1 for that portion of the equation, while struggling from the line is going to decrease your true shooting to some degree. Again, this is just a way to judge how many points a player is creating per shot and not just how many of their shots they’re making. So the question is do we adjust for era? There’s certainly reason to try. Points, field goal attempts, and free throw attempts have all fluctuated in volume across the league’s history. Whether all of that number play is feasible is a different question…and I’ve given up. It’s probably not that complicated to rearrange the formula a little bit and plug in the multipliers, but it’s beyond me right now. We’ll just rank everyone by their standard career TS%. It’s going to hurt some of the early era guys, but I don’t know how to fix that gap.

PlayerTS%GOAT POINTS
Gobert0.6711.5
Tyson Chandler0.6261.40
Steph0.6241.39
KAT0.6241.39
Artis Gilmore0.6231.39
Jokic0.6221.39
Adrian Dantley0.6171.38
KD0.6161.38
Reggie0.6141.37
Chuck0.6121.37
Magic0.611.36
Harden0.611.36
Stockton0.6081.36
Bobby Jones0.6071.36
Nash0.6051.35
McHale0.6051.35
Giannis0.6041.35
Dwight0.6021.35
Kawhi0.61.34
Yao0.5961.33
Mullin0.5941.33
Kareem0.5921.32
Sidney Moncrief0.5911.32
LeBron0.5881.31
Buck Williams0.5871.31
Shaq0.5861.31
Larry Nance0.5861.31
Detlef Schrempf0.5861.31
Mark Price0.5861.31
AD0.5851.31
Kevin Johnson0.5851.31
Otis Thorpe0.5841.31
Chris Paul0.5831.30
David Robinson0.5831.30
Dame0.5831.30
Alonzo Mourning0.5831.30
Jeff Hornacek0.5821.30
Manu0.5821.30
Ray Allen0.581.30
Chauncey0.581.30
Jimmy0.5781.29
Karl Malone0.5771.29
Dirk0.5771.29
Kyrie0.5771.29
Terry Porter0.5761.29
Dikembe0.5731.28
Klay0.5731.28
Mo Cheeks0.5721.28
K Love0.5721.28
Robert Parish0.5711.28
Bosh0.5711.28
AK470.5711.28
MJ0.5691.27
Moses0.5691.27
Kyle Lowry0.5691.27
Paul Pierce0.5681.27
Horford0.5681.27
David Thompson0.5681.27
Paul George0.5661.27
Pau0.5651.26
Oscar0.5641.26
Larry0.5641.26
George Gervin0.5641.26
Dan Issel0.5591.25
Bob Lanier0.5591.25
Millsap0.5591.25
Blake0.5591.25
James Worthy0.5591.25
Dr J0.5581.25
AC Green0.5571.25
Marc Gasol0.5571.25
Marques Johnson0.5561.24
Tree Rollins0.5551.24
Walt Bellamy0.5541.24
D Wade0.5541.24
Zelmo Beaty0.5541.24
Eddie Jones0.5541.24
Jason Terry0.5541.24
Hakeem0.5531.24
Ewing0.5531.24
Iggy0.5531.24
Bill Laimbeer0.5521.23
Sam Perkins0.5521.23
Tim Duncan0.5511.23
Grant Hill0.5511.23
Bob McAdoo0.5511.23
Bill Walton0.5511.23
Kobe0.551.23
Jerry West0.551.23
Alex English0.551.23
Elton Brand0.5481.23
Wilt0.5471.22
Clyde Drexler0.5471.22
KG0.5461.22
Tony Parker0.5461.22
Dennis Rodman0.5461.22
LaMarcus Aldridge0.5441.22
Bailey Howell0.5441.22
Jerry Lucas0.5441.22
Melo0.5431.21
Vlade Divac0.5431.21
Tiny Archibald0.5431.21
Shawn Marion0.5421.21
Walt Frazier0.5421.21
Horace Grant0.541.21
Chet Walker0.541.21
Jack Sikma0.541.21
Wes Unseld0.5371.20
Vince0.5361.20
Pippen0.5361.20
Dominique0.5361.20
Sheed Wallace0.5361.20
Doc Rivers0.5341.19
Dray0.5341.19
Andre Miller0.5321.19
Tim Hardaway0.531.18
Joe Johnson0.531.18
Gary Payton0.5281.18
D Rose0.5281.18
Russ0.5271.18
Alvin Robertson0.5271.18
Rick Barry0.5251.17
Willis Reed0.5231.17
Ed Macauley0.5221.17
T-Mac0.5191.16
Terrell Brandon0.5191.16
AI0.5181.16
Earl Monroe0.5171.16
IT0.5161.15
Rod Strickland0.5161.15
CWebb0.5131.15
Clifford Robinson0.5121.14
Bob Pettit0.5111.14
Lenny Wilkens0.5111.14
Billy Cunningham0.5091.14
Nate McMillan0.5081.14
Kidd0.5071.13
Paul Arizin0.5061.13
Hal Greer0.5061.13
Sam Jones0.5031.12
Dave Bing0.5021.12
Rajon Rondo0.5011.12
Pistol Pete0.51.12
Bill Sharman0.4971.11
Fat Lever0.4961.11
Dave Cowens0.4961.11
Mark Eaton0.4961.11
Elgin Baylor0.4941.10
John Havlicek0.4921.10
Elvin Hayes0.4911.10
Dolph Schayes0.4881.09
Mookie Blaylock0.4881.09
George Mikan0.4831.08
Dave DeBusschere0.4721.06
Bill Russell0.4711.05
Nate Thurmond0.471.05
Bob Cousy0.4461.00
TS%

Perimeter shooting is up next, and this is another thing we need to adjust for era. Because docking someone who was physically unable to shoot a three to zero points here makes little sense. So instead, we’re going to compare everybody’s three-point production to the averages during their time in the league. For percentages, this is pretty easy – we just take the average of the league’s mean 3P% in each season across a player’s career and then divide their personal 3P% by that average. For our purposes, 0 divided by 0 would be marked as 1 here, noting that players who couldn’t shoot threes were league average shooters. The good shooters would be above 1, while those who shot below the league average would end up below 1. One or two players who saw the three ball introduced late into their careers may get hit here, but such is the cost of falling short of adjusting to the new rules. It gets a little harder for three point attempts and makes per game since the available average stats that exist are per team per game rather than per player per game. One feasible option is to try the same thing described above – taking the mean of those team averages and dividing a player’s career 3PA and 3PM numbers by them. That’s going to create a decimal, but it’s one that should theoretically be usable as a measure of volume. What percentage of the typical team’s three-pointers is this player taking and making? The problem here is the players who played in a three-less league, since you can’t just put them at a set average of 1 here. What we will do instead is find all of decimals we can with three-point shooting players and then take the average of all of those decimals, which we would give to the non-shooters. I think it works alright. Here’s what we get –

Player3PATeam 3PA3PA/Team 3PAGOAT POINTS
Larry1.94.290.440.50
Tim Hardaway512.210.410.47
Reggie4.711.850.400.45
Rick Barry25.280.380.43
Mookie Blaylock4.312.020.360.41
Mark Price3.49.780.350.40
Ray Allen5.716.410.350.39
Steph8.825.720.340.39
Harden7.625.720.300.34
Dame8.127.990.290.33
Clyde Drexler2.48.410.290.32
Eddie Jones4.315.180.280.32
Chauncey4.516.380.270.31
Klay7.127.120.260.30
IT1.45.380.260.30
Kidd4.116.060.260.29
Dominique2.18.330.250.29
Terry Porter2.610.350.250.29
Paul George6.626.360.250.28
Magic1.24.940.240.28
Paul Pierce4.317.860.240.27
Kobe4.117.090.240.27
AI3.715.530.240.27
Jason Terry4.318.690.230.26
Mullin2.210.080.220.25
Pippen2.511.620.220.24
T-Mac3.415.800.220.24
Kyle Lowry5.224.220.210.24
Kyrie5.727.120.210.24
Vince419.750.200.23
Chuck1.99.410.200.23
Gary Payton2.713.410.200.23
KD4.924.710.200.23
LeBron4.522.850.200.22
George Gervin0.63.070.200.22
Nash3.216.410.200.22
Manu3.819.560.190.22
Clifford Robinson2.513.030.190.22
K Love4.825.180.190.22
Joe Johnson4.222.080.190.22
Sam Perkins1.89.660.190.21
Jeff Hornacek1.910.300.180.21
Sheed Wallace2.916.100.180.20
Dirk3.419.060.180.20
MJ1.79.550.180.20
Doc Rivers1.37.430.170.20
Jack Sikma0.74.020.170.20
Melo3.922.850.170.19
Chris Paul3.623.740.150.17
Kawhi3.926.310.150.17
Stockton1.510.190.150.17
Russ3.725.180.150.17
KAT4.130.860.130.15
Alvin Robertson17.850.130.14
Tiny Archibald0.32.360.130.14
Billy Cunningham0.54.000.130.14
Sidney Moncrief0.54.020.120.14
Fat Lever0.75.630.120.14
Shawn Marion2.117.190.120.14
Wilt#DIV/0!0.120.14
Oscar#DIV/0!0.120.14
Bill Russell#DIV/0!0.120.14
Jerry West#DIV/0!0.120.14
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!0.120.14
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!0.120.14
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!0.120.14
John Havlicek#DIV/0!0.120.14
Chet Walker#DIV/0!0.120.14
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!0.120.14
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!0.120.14
George Mikan#DIV/0!0.120.14
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!0.120.14
Hal Greer#DIV/0!0.120.14
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!0.120.14
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!0.120.14
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!0.120.14
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!0.120.14
Willis Reed#DIV/0!0.120.14
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!0.120.14
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!0.120.14
Sam Jones#DIV/0!0.120.14
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!0.120.14
Dave Bing#DIV/0!0.120.14
Dr J0.43.370.120.13
Bill Laimbeer0.65.140.120.13
Iggy2.723.290.120.13
Terrell Brandon1.512.960.120.13
David Thompson0.32.620.110.13
Nate McMillan1.19.780.110.13
Detlef Schrempf1.110.080.110.12
Walt Frazier0.32.800.110.12
Pistol Pete0.32.800.110.12
D Rose2.625.180.100.12
Jokic2.930.860.090.11
Dray2.627.990.090.11
Jimmy2.527.120.090.10
James Worthy0.55.630.090.10
D Wade1.820.640.090.10
AK471.517.690.080.10
Blake2.226.360.080.09
Giannis2.428.880.080.09
CWebb1.114.830.070.08
Horford1.824.710.070.08
Marques Johnson0.22.860.070.08
Kevin Johnson0.710.730.070.07
Tony Parker1.319.980.070.07
Millsap1.524.220.060.07
Rajon Rondo1.424.220.060.07
AD1.627.990.060.06
Bosh118.640.050.06
Marc Gasol1.324.410.050.06
Rod Strickland0.612.250.050.06
Grant Hill0.716.060.040.05
Mo Cheeks0.24.630.040.05
Elvin Hayes0.12.360.040.05
McHale0.24.770.040.05
Andre Miller0.717.590.040.05
AC Green0.410.080.040.05
Dave Cowens0.12.550.040.04
Dennis Rodman0.410.300.040.04
Bob McAdoo0.12.600.040.04
Vlade Divac0.412.610.030.04
LaMarcus Aldridge0.724.220.030.03
Dan Issel0.13.490.030.03
Adrian Dantley0.14.020.020.03
Alex English0.14.020.020.03
KG0.417.040.020.03
Pau0.419.980.020.02
Larry Nance0.15.380.020.02
Karl Malone0.210.820.020.02
Moses0.15.630.020.02
Otis Thorpe0.19.660.010.01
Hakeem0.19.940.010.01
Ewing0.110.350.010.01
Horace Grant0.111.620.010.01
David Robinson0.112.210.010.01
Alonzo Mourning0.114.460.010.01
Tim Duncan0.117.110.010.01
Dwight0.123.290.000.00
Kareem03.450.000.00
Artis Gilmore03.490.000.00
Shaq015.030.000.00
Robert Parish06.820.000.00
Buck Williams07.690.000.00
Bob Lanier02.360.000.00
Dikembe014.280.000.00
Elton Brand017.590.000.00
Wes Unseld02.400.000.00
Zelmo Beaty04.850.000.00
Tyson Chandler020.730.000.00
Bobby Jones02.870.000.00
Yao016.730.000.00
Bill Walton02.860.000.00
Mark Eaton05.250.000.00
Tree Rollins05.630.000.00
Gobert028.880.000.00
Earl Monroe02.800.000.00
3PA

If we do the same for 3PM, we get this –

Player3PTeam 3P3P/Team 3PGOAT POINTS
Larry0.71.300.540.50
Reggie1.84.110.440.41
Tim Hardaway1.84.250.420.39
Mark Price1.43.350.420.39
Steph3.89.180.410.38
Ray Allen2.35.820.400.37
Rick Barry0.61.560.380.36
Mookie Blaylock1.44.180.330.31
Klay39.680.310.29
Chauncey1.85.810.310.29
Harden2.89.180.300.28
Dame310.010.300.28
Eddie Jones1.65.390.300.28
Clyde Drexler0.82.840.280.26
Terry Porter13.550.280.26
Paul George2.59.420.270.25
Magic0.41.560.260.24
Paul Pierce1.66.340.250.23
Pistol Pete0.20.800.250.23
Dominique0.72.800.250.23
Kidd1.45.710.250.23
Jason Terry1.66.650.240.22
Nash1.45.820.240.22
IT0.41.680.240.22
Mullin0.83.450.230.21
Kobe1.46.060.230.21
Kyrie2.29.680.230.21
Jeff Hornacek0.83.540.230.21
Kyle Lowry1.98.670.220.20
AI1.25.500.220.20
KD1.98.840.210.20
T-Mac1.25.590.210.20
Vince1.57.020.210.20
Sam Perkins0.73.300.210.20
Manu1.46.980.200.19
K Love1.89.000.200.19
Pippen0.84.020.200.18
Clifford Robinson0.94.560.200.18
LeBron1.68.170.200.18
Dirk1.36.780.190.18
Joe Johnson1.57.880.190.18
Sheed Wallace15.720.170.16
Stockton0.63.490.170.16
Melo1.48.170.170.16
Gary Payton0.84.700.170.16
Jack Sikma0.21.200.170.15
Tiny Archibald0.10.600.170.15
Doc Rivers0.42.480.160.15
Kawhi1.59.410.160.15
Chuck0.53.210.160.14
MJ0.53.270.150.14
Chris Paul1.38.490.150.14
David Thompson0.10.680.150.14
KAT1.611.060.140.13
Bill Laimbeer0.21.600.130.12
Wilt#DIV/0!0.120.11
Oscar#DIV/0!0.120.11
Bill Russell#DIV/0!0.120.11
Jerry West#DIV/0!0.120.11
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!0.120.11
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!0.120.11
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!0.120.11
John Havlicek#DIV/0!0.120.11
Chet Walker#DIV/0!0.120.11
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!0.120.11
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!0.120.11
George Mikan#DIV/0!0.120.11
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!0.120.11
Hal Greer#DIV/0!0.120.11
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!0.120.11
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!0.120.11
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!0.120.11
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!0.120.11
Willis Reed#DIV/0!0.120.11
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!0.120.11
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!0.120.11
Sam Jones#DIV/0!0.120.11
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!0.120.11
Dave Bing#DIV/0!0.120.11
Russ1.19.000.120.11
Nate McMillan0.43.350.120.11
George Gervin0.10.850.120.11
Detlef Schrempf0.43.450.120.11
Shawn Marion0.76.110.110.11
Alvin Robertson0.32.630.110.11
Fat Lever0.21.780.110.10
Terrell Brandon0.54.540.110.10
Iggy0.98.330.110.10
Dr J0.10.950.110.10
Jokic111.060.090.08
D Rose0.89.000.090.08
Billy Cunningham0.11.150.090.08
Sidney Moncrief0.11.200.080.08
Jimmy0.89.680.080.08
Dray0.810.010.080.07
AK470.56.290.080.07
Blake0.79.420.070.07
Mo Cheeks0.11.420.070.07
Horford0.68.840.070.06
D Wade0.57.370.070.06
Giannis0.710.320.070.06
Millsap0.58.670.060.05
Rajon Rondo0.58.670.060.05
Marc Gasol0.58.740.060.05
CWebb0.35.250.060.05
James Worthy0.11.780.060.05
Tony Parker0.47.120.060.05
Kevin Johnson0.23.700.050.05
AD0.510.010.050.05
Rod Strickland0.24.260.050.04
Bosh0.36.640.050.04
Grant Hill0.25.710.040.03
AC Green0.13.450.030.03
Dennis Rodman0.13.540.030.03
Karl Malone0.13.720.030.02
LaMarcus Aldridge0.28.670.020.02
Vlade Divac0.14.390.020.02
KG0.16.050.020.02
Andre Miller0.16.250.020.01
Pau0.17.120.010.01
Walt Frazier00.800.000.00
Wes Unseld00.650.000.00
Earl Monroe00.800.000.00
Kareem00.990.000.00
Tim Duncan06.060.000.00
Artis Gilmore00.990.000.00
Shaq05.330.000.00
Moses01.720.000.00
David Robinson04.250.000.00
Hakeem03.410.000.00
Dan Issel00.980.000.00
Robert Parish02.260.000.00
Dwight08.330.000.00
Adrian Dantley01.200.000.00
Ewing03.550.000.00
Elvin Hayes00.600.000.00
Horace Grant04.020.000.00
Buck Williams02.570.000.00
Bob Lanier00.600.000.00
Dikembe05.040.000.00
Elton Brand06.250.000.00
McHale01.470.000.00
Larry Nance01.680.000.00
Zelmo Beaty01.430.000.00
Otis Thorpe03.300.000.00
Tyson Chandler07.390.000.00
Alex English01.200.000.00
Bobby Jones00.780.000.00
Marques Johnson00.780.000.00
Yao05.980.000.00
Dave Cowens00.650.000.00
Bob McAdoo00.690.000.00
Bill Walton00.780.000.00
Mark Eaton01.640.000.00
Tree Rollins01.790.000.00
Gobert010.320.000.00
Alonzo Mourning05.110.000.00
3PM

And we can close perimeter shooting with 3P%. One problem here is that we have two outliers – Pete Maravich at 66.7% on 15 total threes taken and Wes Unseld at 50% on a grand total of six attempted threes. Obviously we can’t just leave those numbers as they stand, or everyone’s relative GOAT points – based in most cases on far more threes – would suffer. There are two options. The first is to give Maravich and Unseld the full GOAT points, and then to also give Larry Bird (#3) the full points and use his numbers to determine how everyone else stacks up. The other is to pick a number (say 1 like league average) and just put Maravich and Unseld there since they took so many threes. I’m going with the latter. To give Maravich and Unseld as much credit as the game’s very best shooters is a little ridiculous. So I’ll put them both at 1.05 (a completely arbitrary number based on the fact that they did at least make some threes) and call it a day.

Player3P%League Average 3P%GOAT POINTS
Larry0.3760.291.301.00
Nash0.4280.351.210.93
Steph0.4280.361.200.92
Mark Price0.4020.341.200.92
Jeff Hornacek0.4030.341.200.92
Klay0.4170.361.170.90
Reggie0.3950.341.150.89
Stockton0.3840.331.150.89
Terry Porter0.3860.341.150.88
Detlef Schrempf0.3840.331.150.88
Mullin0.3840.331.150.88
Jack Sikma0.3280.291.150.88
Ray Allen0.40.351.130.87
KAT0.3970.361.110.85
Kyrie0.3930.361.100.85
Bill Laimbeer0.3260.301.100.85
Sam Perkins0.3620.331.090.84
Chauncey0.3870.351.090.84
Dr J0.2980.281.080.83
Kawhi0.3840.361.080.83
KD0.3840.361.070.83
Dirk0.380.361.070.82
Paul George0.3820.361.070.82
Jason Terry0.380.361.070.82
Eddie Jones0.3730.351.050.81
Pistol Pete0.6670.281.050.81
Wes Unseld0.50.261.050.81
Vince0.3710.361.040.80
K Love0.3730.361.040.80
Dame0.3730.361.040.80
Joe Johnson0.3710.361.040.80
Magic0.3030.291.040.80
Paul Pierce0.3680.351.040.80
Manu0.3690.361.040.80
Pau0.3680.361.030.79
Doc Rivers0.3280.321.030.79
Chris Paul0.3690.361.030.79
Tim Hardaway0.3550.351.030.79
Kyle Lowry0.3680.361.030.79
Clifford Robinson0.3560.351.030.79
Nate McMillan0.3430.341.020.79
Fat Lever0.310.301.020.79
Terrell Brandon0.3550.351.020.78
Rick Barry0.2970.291.010.78
Harden0.3610.361.010.78
Marc Gasol0.360.361.010.77
Horford0.360.361.010.77
Dominique0.3190.321.000.77
Wilt#DIV/0!1.000.77
Oscar#DIV/0!1.000.77
Bill Russell#DIV/0!1.000.77
Jerry West#DIV/0!1.000.77
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!1.000.77
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!1.000.77
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!1.000.77
John Havlicek#DIV/0!1.000.77
Chet Walker#DIV/0!1.000.77
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!1.000.77
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!1.000.77
George Mikan#DIV/0!1.000.77
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!1.000.77
Hal Greer#DIV/0!1.000.77
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!1.000.77
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!1.000.77
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!1.000.77
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!1.000.77
Willis Reed#DIV/0!1.000.77
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!1.000.77
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!1.000.77
Sam Jones#DIV/0!1.000.77
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!1.000.77
Dave Bing#DIV/0!1.000.77
George Gervin0.2710.270.990.76
Melo0.3550.360.990.76
Sidney Moncrief0.2840.290.990.76
MJ0.3270.330.990.76
Clyde Drexler0.3180.320.990.76
Kidd0.3490.360.980.76
David Thompson0.2550.260.970.75
Mookie Blaylock0.3360.340.970.75
LeBron0.3460.360.970.75
IT0.290.300.970.74
Jokic0.3450.360.960.74
T-Mac0.3380.350.960.74
Millsap0.3410.360.950.73
Pippen0.3260.340.950.73
Sheed Wallace0.3360.360.950.73
Bosh0.3350.360.940.72
Shawn Marion0.3310.360.930.72
Kobe0.3290.350.930.71
Iggy0.330.360.920.71
Billy Cunningham0.2630.290.920.71
Blake0.3270.360.920.70
Alvin Robertson0.2950.320.910.70
Gary Payton0.3170.350.910.70
Tony Parker0.3240.360.910.70
Rajon Rondo0.3240.360.910.70
Jimmy0.3210.360.900.69
Kevin Johnson0.3050.340.900.69
LaMarcus Aldridge0.320.360.890.69
McHale0.2610.290.890.68
Grant Hill0.3140.360.880.68
AI0.3130.350.880.68
D Rose0.3160.360.880.68
Dray0.3150.360.880.68
Tiny Archibald0.2240.260.880.68
Mo Cheeks0.2550.290.870.67
AK470.310.360.870.67
Russ0.3050.360.850.66
AD0.3030.360.850.65
CWebb0.2990.350.850.65
D Wade0.2930.360.820.63
Rod Strickland0.2820.340.820.63
Karl Malone0.2740.340.810.63
Chuck0.2660.330.810.62
Giannis0.2880.360.810.62
James Worthy0.2410.300.790.61
KG0.2750.360.770.60
AC Green0.2540.330.760.58
Alex English0.2170.290.760.58
Dan Issel0.2040.280.740.57
David Robinson0.250.350.720.56
Alonzo Mourning0.2470.350.700.54
Dennis Rodman0.2310.340.690.53
Vlade Divac0.2350.350.680.52
Andre Miller0.2170.360.610.47
Hakeem0.2020.330.610.47
Bob Lanier0.1540.260.600.46
Adrian Dantley0.1710.290.600.46
Dwight0.2140.360.600.46
Elvin Hayes0.1470.260.580.44
Marques Johnson0.1520.270.570.44
Yao0.20.360.560.43
Artis Gilmore0.150.280.540.41
Buck Williams0.1670.310.530.41
Zelmo Beaty0.1540.290.530.41
Tim Duncan0.1790.350.510.39
Larry Nance0.1450.300.480.37
Ewing0.1520.340.450.35
Moses0.0960.300.320.25
Bob McAdoo0.0810.260.310.24
Dave Cowens0.0710.260.270.21
Elton Brand0.0950.360.270.21
Kareem0.0560.280.200.16
Horace Grant0.0630.340.180.14
Otis Thorpe0.0470.330.140.11
Shaq0.0450.350.130.10
Robert Parish00.310.000.00
Walt Frazier00.280.000.00
Dikembe00.350.000.00
Tyson Chandler00.360.000.00
Bobby Jones00.270.000.00
Bill Walton00.270.000.00
Mark Eaton00.300.000.00
Tree Rollins00.300.000.00
Gobert00.360.000.00
Earl Monroe00.280.000.00
3P%

Last up in the scoring category is a look at free throws. We’ll split volume and efficiency into equal value. Efficiency is simple for free throws – it’s free throw percentage and nothing else. Theoretically there are free throws that happen at more important points of the game that might end up having a greater impact on the final score, but there’s really no reason to go any deeper on free throw efficiency than simple makes and misses. And that’s where we stopped on threes too, where you could break things down into shot difficulty (largely based on defender placement), shot type (off-the-dribble, catch-and-shoot, etc.), shot distance, and more. Free throws are just free throws. For volume, we’ll use two metrics. The first is pretty simple – free throws per game. The second is free throws per field goal attempt. That will give us a little more nuance given that players that shoot a lot are naturally more likely to shoot more free throws. By taking field goal attempts into account, we get at least a slightly better look at how good players really are at turning potential free throw opportunities into actual trips to the line, rather than taking a look at the full game where Player A might have twice the realistic free throw opportunities than Player B.

We’ll start with free throws per game, which will be good for 0.3 GOAT points for the leader. I’m going to adjust for era here since a player shooting 5 free throws in a game with a total of 20 is clearly very different than a player shooting 5 free throws in a game with a total of 40 (these are all very made up numbers). We’ll do what we did to adjust for points, taking the top season average, dividing all the other season averages by that number to create a bunch of multipliers, and then multiplying a players’ career average in free throws per game by the mean multiplier across the seasons of their career.

PlayerFTAMultiplierEA FTAGOAT POINTS
Harden8.71.67266038914.550.30
Shaq9.31.50355530313.980.29
AI8.91.52223684313.550.28
Karl Malone8.91.43534561112.770.26
Wilt11.41.11658212212.730.26
LeBron7.81.62142785512.650.26
KD7.61.6555563312.580.26
Giannis7.41.68713335212.480.26
Dwight7.61.62358247912.340.25
David Robinson8.31.46593896812.170.25
AD71.69094253911.840.24
Adrian Dantley8.71.33031828711.570.24
Kobe7.41.56239467211.560.24
MJ8.21.40102071511.490.24
Russ6.91.6639423111.480.24
D Wade7.11899-1211.380.23
Chuck8.11.39216091411.280.23
Moses8.21.3486861311.060.23
Jimmy6.41.69196796510.830.22
Bob Pettit10.31.04827329710.800.22
Jerry West9.41.14787080910.790.22
Dame6.21.69094253910.480.22
Alonzo Mourning71.49275037710.450.22
Blake6.21.68177664610.430.21
Oscar8.81.14787080910.100.21
Paul Pierce6.41.57556812310.080.21
George Mikan8.91.13141749210.070.21
Melo6.21.62142785510.050.21
Bosh6.31.5817220879.960.21
David Thompson7.31.3486127159.840.20
Tim Duncan6.11.5649504979.550.20
Dominique6.91.3766858729.500.20
Elgin Baylor8.71.0838151539.430.19
Yao6.11.5294615299.330.19
Paul Arizin8.71.0684837479.300.19
Walt Bellamy7.81.1832834599.230.19
Pistol Pete6.61.3826476799.130.19
Kevin Johnson6.41.4193914959.080.19
Dan Issel6.81.3342530699.070.19
Tiny Archibald6.61.3667011669.020.19
KAT5.31.6973563229.000.19
Artis Gilmore6.61.3340269138.800.18
Ewing6.21.4187794038.800.18
Hakeem6.21.4123317198.760.18
Dr J6.51.3351441458.680.18
Magic6.51.3323778448.660.18
George Gervin6.41.3501547218.640.18
Billy Cunningham7.11.2155212918.630.18
Gobert5.11.6871333528.600.18
Dirk5.41.5885133318.580.18
Dolph Schayes7.91.0762366078.500.18
K Love5.11.663942318.490.17
T-Mac5.51.5379584118.460.17
Bob McAdoo6.11.3786961358.410.17
Ed Macauley7.71.0856169448.360.17
Grant Hill5.41.5353935318.290.17
Pau5.11.6012387358.170.17
Elvin Hayes6.11.3352875348.150.17
Rick Barry6.31.288255558.120.17
Dave Bing6.31.2847135298.090.17
Kareem61.3369406178.020.17
Paul George4.71.6817766467.900.16
Lenny Wilkens6.51.172668847.620.16
Kawhi4.51.6862789177.590.16
Clyde Drexler5.51.3710537877.540.16
Chris Paul4.61.6327677457.510.15
Chauncey4.81.5539695747.460.15
Kyrie4.41.6919679657.440.15
Reggie5.11.4566241927.430.15
Chet Walker6.21.1948941087.410.15
Elton Brand4.71899-127.410.15
Sidney Moncrief5.61.3225128667.410.15
Jokic4.31.6973563227.300.15
AK474.61.5788964877.260.15
IT5.41.3403211597.240.15
Steph4.31.6726603897.190.15
Bailey Howell6.61899-127.090.15
CWebb4.71.500088977.050.15
Bob Lanier5.11899-126.970.14
LaMarcus Aldridge4.21899-126.900.14
Detlef Schrempf4.91.4068753846.890.14
Marc Gasol4.11.6574102996.800.14
Kyle Lowry4.11.6437986196.740.14
Walt Frazier5.11.3145850796.700.14
Larry51.3311239486.660.14
Bob Cousy6.21.0707530586.640.14
KG4.21.557078626.540.13
Nate Thurmond5.31.2338024536.540.13
Rod Strickland4.41.4648873096.450.13
Earl Monroe4.91.3145850796.440.13
Zelmo Beaty5.51.1686885886.430.13
Millsap3.91.6437986196.410.13
John Havlicek5.21.2305423916.400.13
D Rose3.81.663942316.320.13
Otis Thorpe4.51.4007486616.300.13
Buck Williams4.61.3681367376.290.13
McHale4.71.3315065356.260.13
Manu3.91.5971903056.230.13
Marques Johnson4.71.3209471016.210.13
Vince3.91.591672216.210.13
Dikembe4.11.4927261256.120.13
Jack Sikma4.61899-126.100.13
Bill Russell5.81.0520027756.100.13
Willis Reed5.11.1852644066.040.12
Andre Miller3.81.5760758575.990.12
Mullin4.21.4068753845.910.12
Ray Allen3.81.5517398195.900.12
Tony Parker3.61899-125.760.12
Alex English4.31.3303182875.720.12
Hal Greer5.11.1124830755.670.12
Larry Nance4.21.3403211595.630.12
Tim Hardaway3.81.4659389685.570.11
Stockton3.91.4206127935.540.11
Pippen3.81.4559883825.530.11
Vlade Divac3.71.4733264465.450.11
Clifford Robinson3.71.4720516585.450.11
Eddie Jones3.61.504391785.420.11
Bill Sharman51.0717690865.360.11
Iggy3.31.6235824795.360.11
Tyson Chandler3.21.6042266265.130.11
Gary Payton3.41.4795923655.030.10
Dave DeBusschere4.31.1678151785.020.10
Doc Rivers3.61.3535153114.870.10
Bill Walton3.61.3489058144.860.10
Jerry Lucas4.11.1769936164.830.10
Robert Parish3.51.3614108594.760.10
Bobby Jones3.51.3525131954.730.10
Dave Cowens3.41.379984884.690.10
AC Green3.31.4068753844.640.10
Sam Perkins3.31.4007486614.620.10
Mark Price3.31.3924580854.600.09
James Worthy3.41.3404178524.560.09
Terry Porter3.21899-124.540.09
Sheed Wallace2.91.5421773874.470.09
Joe Johnson2.71.6183830994.370.09
Jeff Hornacek3.11.4077019384.360.09
Nash2.81.5517398194.340.09
Sam Jones4.11.0531746414.320.09
Kidd2.81.5353935314.300.09
Alvin Robertson3.11.358844734.210.09
Fat Lever3.11.3404178524.160.09
Terrell Brandon2.81.4760776294.130.09
Wes Unseld31899-124.010.08
Shawn Marion2.51.5722835893.930.08
Horace Grant2.61899-123.790.08
Klay2.21.6919679653.720.08
Jason Terry2.31.5903302723.660.08
Bill Laimbeer2.71.3392453273.620.07
Mo Cheeks2.71.3360426463.610.07
Dray2.11.6909425393.550.07
Horford2.11.655556333.480.07
Rajon Rondo1.91.6437986193.120.06
Dennis Rodman21.4077019382.820.06
Mookie Blaylock1.91.4579594942.770.06
Mark Eaton1.91.33137862.530.05
Nate McMillan1.51.3924580852.090.04
Tree Rollins1.31.3467980551.750.04
FTA

We can do the same thing with free throws per field goal attempt, which will be worth 0.2 GOAT points for the leader.

PlayerFT/FGAMultiplierEA FT/FGAGOAT POINTS
Dwight0.7871.5478515081.220.20
Gobert0.7321.4059029841.030.17
David Robinson0.5771.6478016370.950.16
Moses0.5721.6524856470.950.15
Shaq0.5781.6316638730.940.15
Adrian Dantley0.5521.6478016370.910.15
Dikembe0.6171899-120.890.15
Tyson Chandler0.6231.4324163490.890.15
AK470.5541.5928712120.880.14
Artis Gilmore0.5441.5527029070.840.14
Buck Williams0.5131.63914430.840.14
Wilt0.5051.6478016370.830.14
Alonzo Mourning0.6041.3571166610.820.13
Karl Malone0.5031.6036792670.810.13
Ed Macauley0.5741.3563958880.780.13
Jerry West0.4621.6741822960.770.13
Sidney Moncrief0.5271.4388880830.760.12
Chuck0.5541.3627334460.750.12
Detlef Schrempf0.5081899-120.740.12
Walt Bellamy0.5271.3668040690.720.12
Bob Pettit0.4811.4971550910.720.12
Harden0.5241.3429741580.700.12
Giannis0.5021.3990374750.700.12
Paul Pierce0.4411.577920420.700.11
Otis Thorpe0.4461.5527029070.690.11
Jimmy0.5131.3450815590.690.11
Kevin Johnson0.5121.3421324910.690.11
AC Green0.4621.4512313480.670.11
Magic0.4891.3648208090.670.11
Lenny Wilkens0.4871.3659304120.670.11
Dolph Schayes0.5121.2800913040.660.11
Oscar0.4681.3995201760.650.11
Bailey Howell0.4581.4117641460.650.11
Tiny Archibald0.4561.4114099260.640.11
Tim Duncan0.4161899-120.630.10
Yao0.4631.3604618690.630.10
George Mikan0.4471.401870420.630.10
Paul Arizin0.4631.3523496130.630.10
K Love0.3861.6184994460.620.10
Bosh0.4441.395826750.620.10
Blake0.4121.5007269010.620.10
Chet Walker0.4361.4053384110.610.10
Bill Russell0.4341.4071544970.610.10
Chauncey0.4411.3772108830.610.10
Stockton0.4241.4307094990.610.10
Grant Hill0.4191.4346931140.600.10
Bobby Jones0.4091.4603102090.600.10
D Wade0.4241.3994915670.590.10
Zelmo Beaty0.4211.4084577740.590.10
MJ0.3581.6524856470.590.10
Andre Miller0.381.5478515080.590.10
David Thompson0.4331.3523496130.590.10
Doc Rivers0.4171.4013647560.580.10
Billy Cunningham0.4051.4403969420.580.10
Reggie0.4021.444419220.580.10
Pau0.4011.4340343620.580.09
Rod Strickland0.3991.4403969420.570.09
AI0.411.401583790.570.09
Dominique0.3451.6547226140.570.09
AD0.4041.4124464570.570.09
T-Mac0.3381.6741822960.570.09
Millsap0.3761.5035026570.570.09
KD0.4071.3865961640.560.09
Kyle Lowry0.3711.5135915570.560.09
Ewing0.3791.479371480.560.09
Manu0.3981.4077306430.560.09
Dan Issel0.3981.3739815350.550.09
Wes Unseld0.3471.5640863910.540.09
Mark Eaton0.3651.4833233850.540.09
Larry Nance0.3341.6184994460.540.09
Elvin Hayes0.331.6316638730.540.09
Walt Frazier0.3381.577920420.530.09
Iggy0.3681.4488029070.530.09
Vlade Divac0.3971.3408767180.530.09
Nate Thurmond0.3881.3635458710.530.09
Kobe0.3821.3785089630.530.09
Robert Parish0.3181.6524856470.530.09
Marc Gasol0.3761.3968233750.530.09
Russ0.371.4090338520.520.09
LeBron0.3981.3094995130.520.09
Sam Perkins0.3581.4510256110.520.09
McHale0.3691.4066173840.520.09
Hakeem0.3631.4172965840.510.08
Elton Brand0.3741.367370210.510.08
Dirk0.3471.4648072010.510.08
Elgin Baylor0.3661.3702415630.500.08
Jack Sikma0.3661.3586613880.500.08
Dave Bing0.361.352837760.490.08
Dennis Rodman0.3451.4112777010.490.08
Dr J0.3451.4075334250.490.08
Kareem0.3291.4708722040.480.08
Bob Cousy0.351.3751156060.480.08
Terry Porter0.351.3722397810.480.08
Clyde Drexler0.3371.4136501240.480.08
Bob McAdoo0.3541.3343207580.470.08
Mo Cheeks0.3131.5078173330.470.08
Bill Walton0.3431.3711827660.470.08
IT0.3341.379275230.460.08
Chris Paul0.3371.3500795940.450.07
Bob Lanier0.3221.4121878890.450.07
Kawhi0.3241899-120.450.07
Dame0.3351.3499001860.450.07
Nate McMillan0.2861.577920420.450.07
Pippen0.2831.5936257490.450.07
Willis Reed0.3231.3908383310.450.07
KAT0.3271.3702415630.450.07
Eddie Jones0.3011899-120.440.07
Bill Sharman0.3181.3957378890.440.07
Dave DeBusschere0.2821.5414340210.430.07
KG0.2931.4780739230.430.07
Clifford Robinson0.3061.415278790.430.07
Paul George0.2961.4488029070.430.07
Melo0.3431.2413933180.430.07
Jokic0.3061.3666845110.420.07
Pistol Pete0.311.3460901330.420.07
Tree Rollins0.3071.3563958880.420.07
Larry0.2581.6036792670.410.07
Rick Barry0.3011.3648208090.410.07
Jerry Lucas0.2941899-120.410.07
Dray0.2921.3694616380.400.07
Marques Johnson0.2951.3499001860.400.07
Vince0.2851.3782736670.390.06
Tony Parker0.2861.372896240.390.06
Earl Monroe0.3031.2920556820.390.06
George Gervin0.3311.1727444960.390.06
Steph0.2421.6036792670.390.06
Mark Price0.2831.3702415630.390.06
CWebb0.261.4841245550.390.06
Alex English0.2441899-120.390.06
Jeff Hornacek0.2841.3464910630.380.06
Gary Payton0.241.5928712120.380.06
John Havlicek0.2751.3635458710.370.06
Kidd0.2541.4750598840.370.06
Horace Grant0.2851899-120.370.06
Bill Laimbeer0.261.4346931140.370.06
Alvin Robertson0.2651.4034616590.370.06
LaMarcus Aldridge0.271.3739972930.370.06
D Rose0.2421899-120.370.06
Mullin0.3151.1582667230.360.06
Hal Greer0.3041.1894699460.360.06
Terrell Brandon0.2341.5211244450.360.06
Ray Allen0.261899-120.350.06
Nash0.2621.3401686180.350.06
Tim Hardaway0.251.3708292060.340.06
Fat Lever0.2431.4053384110.340.06
Kyrie0.2411.3708292060.330.05
Sam Jones0.261.2207930370.320.05
Sheed Wallace0.2341.352037270.320.05
Rajon Rondo0.2141.3494407810.290.05
Joe Johnson0.1961.4676382660.290.05
Jason Terry0.211.3666169170.290.05
Dave Cowens0.2071.3583227260.280.05
James Worthy0.2411.1205436110.270.04
Horford0.1911.367370210.260.04
Mookie Blaylock0.151.6547226140.250.04
Shawn Marion0.1911.1284825750.220.04
Klay0.1381.4791300090.200.03
FT/FGA

We’ll finish the scoring category with free throw percentage. I’m not going to adjust for era here. There’s limited variation across eras – the league’s FT% has been between 70 and 78 percent every year since 1949. Even if more recent years tend to be a little higher up in that range, there’s really not that much variability there. And while there is likely something to be said for time spent on the practice court increasing over time – and having an indirect effect on things like free throws – the simple fact is that free throws are free throws. And the ability to practice your ability to put the ball in the hoop on an uninterrupted shot from the line hasn’t changed over time. So we’ll go pure percentages here. There are 0.5 GOAT points on the table to match those for volume.

PlayerFT%GOAT POINTS
Steph0.9080.50
Nash0.9040.50
Mark Price0.9040.50
Ray Allen0.8940.49
Chauncey0.8940.49
Rick Barry0.8930.49
Dame0.8930.49
Reggie0.8880.49
Larry0.8860.49
KD0.8840.49
Bill Sharman0.8830.49
Kyrie0.8820.49
Dirk0.8790.48
Jeff Hornacek0.8770.48
Terrell Brandon0.8730.48
Chris Paul0.8710.48
Mullin0.8650.48
Harden0.860.47
Kawhi0.8580.47
Dolph Schayes0.8490.47
Jack Sikma0.8490.47
Klay0.8490.47
Magic0.8480.47
Paul George0.8480.47
Jason Terry0.8450.47
George Gervin0.8410.46
Jimmy0.8410.46
Kevin Johnson0.8410.46
Oscar0.8380.46
Kobe0.8370.46
Bill Laimbeer0.8370.46
Terry Porter0.8360.46
MJ0.8350.46
KAT0.8330.46
Yao0.8330.46
Alex English0.8320.46
Sidney Moncrief0.8310.46
Jokic0.830.46
D Rose0.830.46
K Love0.8290.46
Manu0.8270.46
Stockton0.8260.45
Pistol Pete0.820.45
Adrian Dantley0.8180.45
John Havlicek0.8150.45
Jerry West0.8140.45
Melo0.8140.45
LaMarcus Aldridge0.8130.45
Kyle Lowry0.8130.45
Dominique0.8110.45
Sam Perkins0.8110.45
Shawn Marion0.810.45
Paul Arizin0.810.45
Tiny Archibald0.810.45
Eddie Jones0.8090.45
Andre Miller0.8070.44
Earl Monroe0.8070.44
Paul Pierce0.8060.44
Detlef Schrempf0.8030.44
Bob Cousy0.8030.44
Sam Jones0.8030.44
Joe Johnson0.8020.44
Hal Greer0.8010.44
Bosh0.7990.44
Vince0.7980.44
McHale0.7980.44
Chet Walker0.7960.44
AD0.7940.44
Dan Issel0.7930.44
Mo Cheeks0.7930.44
KG0.7890.43
Clyde Drexler0.7880.43
Walt Frazier0.7860.43
Kidd0.7850.43
Doc Rivers0.7840.43
Russ0.7830.43
Jerry Lucas0.7830.43
Dave Cowens0.7830.43
George Mikan0.7820.43
Tim Hardaway0.7820.43
David Thompson0.7810.43
Elgin Baylor0.780.43
AI0.780.43
Dr J0.7770.43
Marc Gasol0.7760.43
Dave Bing0.7750.43
Lenny Wilkens0.7740.43
Zelmo Beaty0.7710.42
Fat Lever0.7710.42
Grant Hill0.7690.42
James Worthy0.7690.42
Bob Lanier0.7670.42
Bobby Jones0.7660.42
D Wade0.7650.42
Bailey Howell0.7620.42
Bob Pettit0.7610.42
Ed Macauley0.7610.42
Moses0.760.42
Horford0.7590.42
IT0.7590.42
Larry Nance0.7550.42
AK470.7540.42
Bob McAdoo0.7540.42
Pau0.7530.41
Tony Parker0.7510.41
Willis Reed0.7470.41
T-Mac0.7460.41
Alvin Robertson0.7430.41
Karl Malone0.7420.41
Ewing0.740.41
Marques Johnson0.7390.41
David Robinson0.7360.41
Elton Brand0.7360.41
Millsap0.7360.41
Mookie Blaylock0.7360.41
Chuck0.7350.40
LeBron0.7340.40
AC Green0.7340.40
Billy Cunningham0.730.40
Gary Payton0.7290.40
Kareem0.7210.40
Robert Parish0.7210.40
Sheed Wallace0.7210.40
Rod Strickland0.7210.40
Giannis0.7180.40
Hakeem0.7120.39
Dray0.7120.39
Iggy0.7090.39
Pippen0.7040.39
Tree Rollins0.70.39
Dave DeBusschere0.6990.38
Artis Gilmore0.6980.38
Tim Duncan0.6960.38
Blake0.6960.38
Horace Grant0.6920.38
Vlade Divac0.6920.38
Alonzo Mourning0.6920.38
Clifford Robinson0.6890.38
Otis Thorpe0.6870.38
Dikembe0.6840.38
Elvin Hayes0.670.37
Nate Thurmond0.6670.37
Buck Williams0.6640.37
Bill Walton0.660.36
Nate McMillan0.650.36
CWebb0.6490.36
Mark Eaton0.6490.36
Tyson Chandler0.6440.35
Gobert0.6380.35
Wes Unseld0.6330.35
Walt Bellamy0.6320.35
Rajon Rondo0.6110.34
Dennis Rodman0.5840.32
Dwight0.5670.31
Bill Russell0.5610.31
Shaq0.5270.29
Wilt0.5110.28
FT%

With that, we can rank our 157 players in GOAT points after scoring –

PlayerGOAT POINTS
MJ8.29
KD8.28
Steph8.24
Larry8.11
Harden8.09
LeBron8.05
Kobe7.87
AI7.81
Dame7.77
George Mikan7.70
Rick Barry7.64
Wilt7.63
Dominique7.62
Reggie7.55
Kyrie7.54
KAT7.53
George Gervin7.50
Jerry West7.43
Ray Allen7.40
Bob Pettit7.39
Karl Malone7.39
Dirk7.36
Chuck7.33
Paul Arizin7.29
Paul Pierce7.27
AD7.26
Melo7.25
Oscar7.22
Dr J7.21
David Thompson7.16
Paul George7.15
Elgin Baylor7.12
Pistol Pete7.12
Giannis7.12
Klay7.12
Magic7.09
Mullin7.09
Kawhi7.07
Clyde Drexler7.07
D Wade7.06
Adrian Dantley7.04
Russ7.02
T-Mac7.00
Jokic6.98
Mark Price6.96
Tim Hardaway6.96
Shaq6.95
David Robinson6.90
Ed Macauley6.86
K Love6.78
Chauncey6.77
Bosh6.75
Bill Sharman6.74
Chris Paul6.73
Blake6.73
Nash6.71
Walt Bellamy6.63
Dolph Schayes6.62
Vince6.62
Dan Issel6.62
CWebb6.59
Yao6.58
IT6.55
Hakeem6.54
Kevin Johnson6.54
Kareem6.52
Billy Cunningham6.52
Alex English6.51
Jeff Hornacek6.51
Eddie Jones6.49
Jimmy6.48
Bailey Howell6.47
Tiny Archibald6.43
Alonzo Mourning6.43
Dave Bing6.43
Chet Walker6.43
Pau6.42
LaMarcus Aldridge6.42
McHale6.42
John Havlicek6.42
Manu6.41
Ewing6.38
D Rose6.36
Detlef Schrempf6.32
Stockton6.32
Pippen6.32
Sidney Moncrief6.30
Sam Jones6.30
Tim Duncan6.30
Terry Porter6.29
Kyle Lowry6.29
Grant Hill6.29
Willis Reed6.28
Gary Payton6.27
KG6.27
Bob McAdoo6.27
Hal Greer6.26
Joe Johnson6.24
Jason Terry6.23
Artis Gilmore6.22
Jack Sikma6.21
Bob Lanier6.20
Dwight6.20
Bob Cousy6.19
Moses6.15
Tony Parker6.13
James Worthy6.12
Marques Johnson6.12
Sheed Wallace6.10
Shawn Marion6.09
Jerry Lucas6.08
Clifford Robinson6.07
Terrell Brandon5.97
Lenny Wilkens5.96
Sam Perkins5.95
Mookie Blaylock5.93
Marc Gasol5.90
Millsap5.89
Elvin Hayes5.89
Horford5.86
Larry Nance5.82
Bill Laimbeer5.79
AK475.76
Kidd5.75
Alvin Robertson5.70
Dave DeBusschere5.68
Zelmo Beaty5.67
Elton Brand5.61
Fat Lever5.60
Doc Rivers5.56
Rod Strickland5.55
Nate Thurmond5.53
Walt Frazier5.51
Bill Russell5.49
Iggy5.47
Gobert5.47
Earl Monroe5.40
Andre Miller5.37
Buck Williams5.36
Vlade Divac5.34
Mo Cheeks5.31
Otis Thorpe5.30
Dave Cowens5.22
Robert Parish5.16
AC Green5.09
Wes Unseld5.08
Bobby Jones4.95
Rajon Rondo4.88
Dray4.88
Bill Walton4.83
Tyson Chandler4.69
Horace Grant4.68
Dikembe4.64
Nate McMillan4.56
Dennis Rodman4.52
Tree Rollins3.79
Mark Eaton3.47
Scoring GOAT points

Some of the names in the 10-20 range – Dame, Rick Barry, Kyrie, KAT, George Mikan, etc – are, to varying degrees, somewhat surprising, and it should be noted that there are plenty of categories left that won’t necessarily go the way of efficient multi-level scorers like KAT and Dame or big-scoring early players like Mikan. Some other surprises – Shaq down near 50th, Kareem near 70th, and Tim Duncan and KG in the 90-99 range. They didn’t stack up particularly well here, but there is, again, plenty of time to catch up ahead. And all four players have a lot of strengths left on the board.

PLAYMAKING (5)

Playmaking comes in next at half the value of scoring. The main reason for this is the drop-off in available statistics. We don’t want to give a larger-than-normal point value to a single statistic here just to give playmaking 10 points. There are a number of stats that we can connect to playmaking these days, but when it comes to reliable stats that we can use across eras as a clear measure of impact, there’s really nothing beyond assist and turnover numbers – per game, per 36 minutes, and then percentages (how many of the total team assists are you responsible for while on the floor for assists and how many turnovers are you committing per 100 plays for turnovers). Assists are a good measure of direct playmaking, as they’re a relatively reliable look at how many shots a player is setting up for their teammates. There are some flaws in looking solely at assists given that everyone plays with players of different quality and those teammates are ultimately responsible for turning a pass into an assist. But those discrepancies will shrink across a full career as players rotate in and out, and we can get to the point where assists are a pretty good look at true playmaking output. Turnovers are a measure of mistakes. How often are your playmaking efforts ending up in another possession for the other team? An increase in assists is always going to correlate with an increase of turnovers because everyone makes those mistakes and will make more of them if given more opportunities. But who’s slightly better at avoiding them? Those differences matter. I would also say that playmaking tends to be a little more niche than scoring in that you’ll find a smaller percentage of great playmakers than great scorers and good playmakers than good scorers and so on. That’s another reason to lower the impact a little bit. It’s easier to be a great player that doesn’t put up great assist numbers than it is to be a great player that doesn’t really score.

Subcategories:

  • Pure Volume (3.25) – Assists per game (1.5), Assists per 36 (1), Turnovers per game (0.5), Turnovers per 36 (0.25)
  • Percentages (1) – Assists percentage (0.75), turnover percentage (0.25)
  • Assist:Turnover Ratio (0.75)

We’ll start with assists per game, using the same era-adjustment strategy as we used for points per game.

Stockton10.51.11372863211.691.50
Magic11.21.03561977311.601.49
Chris Paul9.51.17768674911.191.44
Oscar9.51.12806277210.721.38
Kidd8.71.21578426810.581.36
Nash8.51.22293520610.391.33
Kevin Johnson9.11.11593661610.161.30
Russ8.41.1644865649.781.26
IT9.31.0361407639.641.24
Tim Hardaway8.21.1493602499.421.21
Rajon Rondo7.91.1714984829.251.19
Bob Cousy7.51.1971704568.981.15
LeBron7.41.1836925428.761.12
Rod Strickland7.31.1522276958.411.08
Andre Miller6.51.219189417.921.02
Gary Payton6.71.1773966457.891.01
Harden6.81.1577254587.871.01
Tiny Archibald7.41.0585949897.831.01
Mookie Blaylock6.71.1436759757.660.98
AI6.21.2251212257.600.97
Jerry West6.71.1280627727.560.97
Lenny Wilkens6.71.1265280557.550.97
Steph6.51.1577254587.530.97
Dame6.61.1334228157.480.96
Kyle Lowry6.31.1714984827.380.95
Mark Price6.71.0890675737.300.94
Terrell Brandon6.11.1587986777.070.91
Mo Cheeks6.71.030806226.910.89
Jokic6.21.1076105446.870.88
Tony Parker5.61899-126.750.87
Nate McMillan6.11.0890675736.640.85
Chauncey5.41.2245517166.610.85
Dave Bing61.1015172826.610.85
Walt Frazier6.11.0832969186.610.85
Kyrie5.71.1442371916.520.84
D Wade5.41899-126.510.84
Larry6.31.029072016.480.83
Fat Lever6.21.0355149276.420.82
D Rose5.41.1644865646.290.81
Terry Porter5.61899-126.240.80
Dray5.41.1334228156.120.79
Clyde Drexler5.61.0722777426.000.77
Doc Rivers5.71.0533274656.000.77
Pippen5.21.1395593455.930.76
MJ5.31.0951099695.800.74
Pistol Pete5.41.072604575.790.74
Kobe4.71.2193830235.730.74
Rick Barry4.91.1440571645.610.72
Jeff Hornacek4.91.1084796055.430.70
T-Mac4.41.2287919585.410.69
John Havlicek4.81.1254138895.400.69
Alvin Robertson51.0574533545.290.68
Bill Russell4.31.2062060645.190.67
Giannis4.61.1271314335.180.67
CWebb4.21.2012760635.050.65
KD4.31.1672822615.020.64
Wilt4.41.1348207094.990.64
Grant Hill4.11.2157842684.980.64
Elgin Baylor4.31.1561197054.970.64
Iggy4.21.1808564734.960.64
Billy Cunningham4.31.1240347734.830.62
Blake4.11.1508220764.720.61
Jimmy4.11.1442371914.690.60
Joe Johnson3.91.1863965414.630.59
Manu3.81.2148031264.620.59
Jason Terry3.81.2117661834.600.59
Hal Greer41.1486217784.590.59
KG3.71.2164881324.500.58
Dr J4.21.0610802244.460.57
Chuck3.91.0956408084.270.55
Paul Pierce3.51.2189720094.270.55
Earl Monroe3.91.0832969184.220.54
Wes Unseld3.91899-124.190.54
Ray Allen3.41.2229352064.160.53
Paul George3.61.1508220764.140.53
Dave Cowens3.81.0674081564.060.52
Karl Malone3.61.1260834634.050.52
Ed Macauley3.21.2614997554.040.52
Marc Gasol3.41.1718235553.980.51
Mullin3.51.1085421853.880.50
Pau3.21.2059371643.860.50
Horford3.31.1672822613.850.49
Dolph Schayes3.11.2235647943.790.49
Kareem3.61.0477453853.770.48
Detlef Schrempf3.41.1085421853.770.48
Jerry Lucas3.31.131553933.730.48
Vince3.11.2018665193.730.48
Alex English3.61.0317513.710.48
Sidney Moncrief3.61.0253722293.690.47
Bill Sharman31.2294231353.690.47
Marques Johnson3.61.0208120773.670.47
Tim Duncan31.2206424163.660.47
Bob Pettit31.205706773.620.46
Vlade Divac3.11.1600329413.600.46
Bill Walton3.41.0428507273.550.45
George Mikan2.81.2627659153.540.45
Eddie Jones2.91.2100908643.510.45
David Thompson3.31.0413599013.440.44
Reggie31.1448472593.430.44
KAT3.11.1076105443.430.44
Kawhi2.91.1517503413.340.43
AK472.71.2257895393.310.42
Dave DeBusschere2.91.1338069623.290.42
Jack Sikma3.21899-123.290.42
Bob Lanier3.11899-123.280.42
Melo2.71.1836925423.200.41
James Worthy31.0355149273.110.40
Adrian Dantley31.0317513.100.40
Nate Thurmond2.71.1282879943.050.39
Shaq2.51.2000063733.000.38
Sam Jones2.51.1907620372.980.38
Dirk2.41.207771172.900.37
David Robinson2.51.1493602492.870.37
Bobby Jones2.71.0399675762.810.36
Paul Arizin2.31.2186727422.800.36
K Love2.41.1644865642.790.36
Hakeem2.51.1076437892.770.36
George Gervin2.61.053034952.740.35
Walt Bellamy2.41.1293674262.710.35
Dominique2.51.0805965622.700.35
Larry Nance2.61.0361407632.690.35
Klay2.31.1442371912.630.34
AD2.31.1334228152.610.33
Dan Issel2.41.0755719232.580.33
Millsap2.21.1714984822.580.33
Clifford Robinson2.21.1706648822.580.33
Elton Brand2.11899-122.560.33
Horace Grant2.21899-122.510.32
Bosh21.2243274382.450.31
Artis Gilmore2.31.058627262.430.31
Otis Thorpe2.21.102157352.420.31
Bob McAdoo2.31.047019822.410.31
Chet Walker2.11.1315942742.380.30
Shawn Marion1.91.2216779852.320.30
Bailey Howell21899-122.290.29
LaMarcus Aldridge1.91899-122.230.29
Sheed Wallace1.81.2208871932.200.28
Ewing1.91.1139757762.120.27
Bill Laimbeer21.0358001762.070.27
Willis Reed1.81.1218121272.020.26
Dennis Rodman1.81.1084796052.000.26
Yao1.61.2363116691.980.25
Elvin Hayes1.81.0639772071.920.25
McHale1.71.0325641241.760.23
Zelmo Beaty1.51.1687589431.750.22
Sam Perkins1.51.102157351.650.21
Dwight1.31.1808564731.540.20
Robert Parish1.41.0557312881.480.19
Gobert1.31.1271314331.470.19
Buck Williams1.31.0672506441.390.18
Moses1.31.0429637991.360.17
Alonzo Mourning1.11.1927448921.310.17
AC Green1.11.1085421851.220.16
Dikembe11.189431591.190.15
Mark Eaton11.031664571.030.13
Tyson Chandler0.81.1991967260.960.12
Tree Rollins0.61.0397718770.620.08
APG

We’ll do the same process for assists per 36, which is again a look at how much a player is producing per minute rather than per game. There’s 1 goat point on the line here.

PlayerAP36MultiplierEA AP36GOAT POINTS
Stockton11.91.11372863213.251.00
Nash9.81.22293520611.980.90
Chris Paul9.91.17768674911.660.88
Magic111.03561977311.390.86
Rajon Rondo9.61.17149848211.250.85
Kevin Johnson9.61.11593661610.710.81
Kidd8.71.21578426810.580.80
Russ8.81.16448656410.250.77
Rod Strickland8.51.1522276959.790.74
Tim Hardaway8.31.1493602499.540.72
IT9.21.0361407639.530.72
Bob Cousy7.91.1971704569.460.71
Nate McMillan8.61.0890675739.370.71
Andre Miller7.61.219189419.270.70
Oscar8.11.1280627729.140.69
Mark Price8.11.0890675738.820.67
Terrell Brandon7.41.1587986778.580.65
Kyle Lowry7.11.1714984828.320.63
Harden7.11.1577254588.220.62
Jokic7.41.1076105448.200.62
LeBron6.91.1836925428.170.62
Terry Porter7.31899-128.130.61
Gary Payton6.91.1773966458.120.61
Tony Parker6.61899-127.960.60
Tiny Archibald7.51.0585949897.940.60
Doc Rivers7.51.0533274657.900.60
Mookie Blaylock6.91.1436759757.890.60
Steph6.81.1577254587.870.59
Mo Cheeks7.61.030806227.830.59
Dray6.91.1334228157.820.59
Lenny Wilkens6.81.1265280557.660.58
Dame6.61.1334228157.480.56
Chauncey6.11.2245517167.470.56
Fat Lever7.11.0355149277.350.55
D Rose6.21.1644865647.220.54
Kyrie6.11.1442371916.980.53
Jerry West6.11.1280627726.880.52
D Wade5.71899-126.870.52
AI5.41.2251212256.620.50
Manu5.41.2148031266.560.50
Dave Bing5.91.1015172826.500.49
Walt Frazier5.91.0832969186.390.48
Clyde Drexler5.91.0722777426.330.48
Jeff Hornacek5.61.1084796056.210.47
Larry61.029072016.170.47
Pippen5.41.1395593456.150.46
Alvin Robertson5.71.0574533546.030.45
T-Mac4.91.2287919586.020.45
Giannis5.11.1271314335.750.43
Kobe4.71.2193830235.730.43
Pistol Pete5.31.072604575.680.43
Jason Terry4.61.2117661835.570.42
Iggy4.71.1808564735.550.42
Rick Barry4.71.1440571645.380.41
MJ4.91.0951099695.370.40
Grant Hill4.41.2157842685.350.40
John Havlicek4.71.1254138895.290.40
Blake4.51.1508220765.180.39
Jimmy4.51.1442371915.150.39
Billy Cunningham4.41.1240347734.950.37
CWebb4.11.2012760634.930.37
KD4.21.1672822614.900.37
Joe Johnson4.11.1863965414.860.37
Earl Monroe4.41.0832969184.770.36
KG3.91.2164881324.740.36
Hal Greer4.11.1486217784.710.36
Detlef Schrempf4.11.1085421854.550.34
Paul Pierce3.71.2189720094.510.34
Elgin Baylor3.91.1561197054.510.34
Bill Walton4.31.0428507274.480.34
Marc Gasol3.81.1718235554.450.34
Vince3.71.2018665194.450.34
Sidney Moncrief4.31.0253722294.410.33
Vlade Divac3.81.1600329414.410.33
Paul George3.81.1508220764.370.33
Dr J4.11.0610802244.350.33
Bill Russell3.61.2062060644.340.33
Mullin3.91.1085421854.320.33
Horford3.71.1672822614.320.33
Chuck3.91.0956408084.270.32
Alex English4.11.0317514.230.32
Bill Sharman3.41.2294231354.180.32
Ray Allen3.41.2229352064.160.31
Pau3.41.2059371644.100.31
Wes Unseld3.81899-124.080.31
AK473.31.2257895394.050.31
Ed Macauley3.21.2614997554.040.30
Wilt3.51.1348207093.970.30
Sam Jones3.31.1907620373.930.30
Tim Duncan3.21.2206424163.910.29
Marques Johnson3.81.0208120773.880.29
Karl Malone3.41.1260834633.830.29
Kawhi3.31.1517503413.800.29
Dolph Schayes3.11.2235647943.790.29
Eddie Jones3.11.2100908643.750.28
David Thompson3.61.0413599013.750.28
Dave Cowens3.51.0674081563.740.28
Kareem3.51.0477453853.670.28
Bobby Jones3.51.0399675763.640.27
Bob Lanier3.41899-123.600.27
Reggie3.11.1448472593.550.27
KAT3.21.1076105443.540.27
Jerry Lucas3.11.131553933.510.26
Jack Sikma3.41899-123.490.26
James Worthy3.31.0355149273.420.26
George Mikan2.71.2627659153.410.26
Bob Pettit2.81.205706773.380.25
Melo2.81.1836925423.310.25
Dave DeBusschere2.91.1338069623.290.25
Millsap2.81.1714984823.280.25
K Love2.81.1644865643.260.25
Dirk2.61.207771173.140.24
Shaq2.61.2000063733.120.24
Adrian Dantley31.0317513.100.23
Clifford Robinson2.61.1706648823.040.23
David Robinson2.61.1493602492.990.23
George Gervin2.81.053034952.950.22
Nate Thurmond2.61.1282879942.930.22
Larry Nance2.81.0361407632.900.22
Klay2.51.1442371912.860.22
Elton Brand2.31899-122.800.21
Hakeem2.51.1076437892.770.21
Otis Thorpe2.51.102157352.760.21
Horace Grant2.41899-122.730.21
AD2.41.1334228152.720.21
Walt Bellamy2.41.1293674262.710.20
Dominique2.51.0805965622.700.20
Dan Issel2.51.0755719232.690.20
Paul Arizin2.21.2186727422.680.20
Bob McAdoo2.51.047019822.620.20
Chet Walker2.31.1315942742.600.20
Bailey Howell2.21899-122.520.19
LaMarcus Aldridge2.11899-122.460.19
Bosh21.2243274382.450.18
Shawn Marion21.2216779852.440.18
Sheed Wallace21.2208871932.440.18
Artis Gilmore2.31.058627262.430.18
Bill Laimbeer2.31.0358001762.380.18
Ewing21.1139757762.230.17
Yao1.81.2363116692.230.17
Dennis Rodman21.1084796052.220.17
Willis Reed1.91.1218121272.130.16
Sam Perkins1.91.102157352.090.16
McHale21.0325641242.070.16
Zelmo Beaty1.71.1687589431.990.15
Elvin Hayes1.71.0639772071.810.14
Gobert1.61.1271314331.800.14
Robert Parish1.71.0557312881.790.14
Dwight1.51.1808564731.770.13
AC Green1.41.1085421851.550.12
Alonzo Mourning1.31.1927448921.550.12
Buck Williams1.41.0672506441.490.11
Moses1.41.0429637991.460.11
Dikembe1.21.189431591.430.11
Tyson Chandler1.11.1991967261.320.10
Mark Eaton1.21.031664571.240.09
Tree Rollins11.0397718771.040.08
AP36

Next we’ll do the same thing with turnovers per game and per 36. And this is where we run into another issue with stats not being recorded; individual turnover numbers don’t exist before 1978 for the NBA. When that happens, every player that played before that given year has to end up in the same spot since there’s no way to separate them from each other. That leads to two questions. The first – is there a cutoff where Player A played enough of their career post 1978 to count their turnover numbers despite them being incomplete? I’ll go with over half of a career. So anyone that played more than half of their seasons post 1978 will run with that number (Rick Barry and Bob Lanier and their seven of fourteen seasons played with turnover numbers will go to the average and be our example cutoffs). This only leads to very small changes for Kareem and Bob McAdoo and no one else, but we’ll do it anyway. To get the multiplier for those two, I just used the league average turnover numbers from 1978 to the end of their respective careers. The second question is where exactly that spot the others all end up in should be. Theoretically, we could say no stat no points and put them all at the very bottom, but punishing a player in that way for simply being born too early doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. The other relatively simple option (other than giving them all max points which is equally nonsensical) is to just give them the average number like we did with three-point shooting. So you take everyone that played post-1974, take the average of all of their turnover numbers, and then give that average to everyone that doesn’t have a stat. It’s not perfect, but it’s the fairest way to do it. For everyone we do have turnover numbers for, we’ll adjust for era like we’ve been doing. I touched on this above, but I’ll mention it again here. Turnovers themselves are not a great measure of playmaking ability given that the center or sharpshooter who rarely attempts to set up others is obviously going to end up with less turnovers than the guy responsible for creating most of his team’s offense. Role context is important with turnovers (so the comparison between like players is more important than the comparison between a Russ and a Tree Rollins), and the assist:turnover ratio that we will do our best to create in a bit is helpful in creating that context by matching assist volume with turnover volume. We’re looking at 0.5 goat points here, and there’s another layer there with the whole more turnovers are bad concept. So instead of just taking the top score and attributing points based on the percentage of that figure everyone else reaches, we’re going to divide everyone’s turnover number by the low score, which creates a number greater than 1. We then do 0.5 divided by that number to get the goat points.

PlayerTOPGMultiplierEA TOPGGOAT POINTS
Tree Rollins0.91.1986010751.080.50
AC Green1.11.2974876421.430.38
Horace Grant1.11899-121.460.37
Sam Perkins1.21.2895184381.550.35
Bill Laimbeer1.51.2200559451.830.30
Mark Eaton1.51.2266675021.840.29
Tyson Chandler1.41.4403442262.020.27
Dennis Rodman1.61.3003283052.080.26
Sheed Wallace1.51.4041325162.110.26
Shawn Marion1.51.4250486382.140.25
LaMarcus Aldridge1.51899-122.180.25
Horford1.51.4604999882.190.25
Eddie Jones1.61.3805855612.210.24
Bobby Jones21.1055980092.210.24
Reggie1.71.3344077152.270.24
Dirk1.61.4295303252.290.24
McHale1.91.2139064032.310.23
Kawhi1.61.4520027672.320.23
Jimmy1.61.4570249142.330.23
Larry Nance1.91.2283449052.330.23
Jeff Hornacek1.81.3003283052.340.23
Gobert1.61.4642176652.340.23
Sidney Moncrief21.1866502422.370.23
Doc Rivers1.91.2560745452.390.23
Vince1.71.4297554352.430.22
Jason Terry1.71.4308148622.430.22
Dan Issel2.21.1058164782.430.22
Clifford Robinson1.81.354803082.440.22
Nate McMillan1.91.2919319722.450.22
Fat Lever21.2327785442.470.22
James Worthy21.2327785442.470.22
Millsap1.71.4553114542.470.22
Dikembe1.81.3753011982.480.22
Klay1.71.4570249142.480.22
Mo Cheeks2.11.1954544922.510.22
Robert Parish2.11.2012297412.520.21
Detlef Schrempf21.2974876422.590.21
Iggy1.81.4535505822.620.21
Buck Williams2.11.2505818712.630.21
Jack Sikma2.31899-122.680.20
Terrell Brandon21.3414072282.680.20
Marques Johnson2.41.1278397052.710.20
Elton Brand1.91899-122.710.20
AK471.91.4337268612.720.20
Terry Porter2.11899-122.740.20
Joe Johnson1.91.446715862.750.20
K Love1.91.4594516092.770.19
Chauncey21.4151615512.830.19
Otis Thorpe2.21.2895184382.840.19
Bosh21.4373972762.870.19
Manu21.4388998422.880.19
Alex English2.51.1556561712.890.19
Bob McAdoo2.61.1172075152.900.19
Marc Gasol21.4557750882.910.19
AD21.4602616512.920.18
David Thompson2.71.0895767582.940.18
Ray Allen2.11.4101437292.960.18
Vlade Divac2.21.3477829722.970.18
Mullin2.31.2974876422.980.18
Bill Walton2.71.1068550682.990.18
Mookie Blaylock2.31.3344157683.070.18
Kareem2.71.144434033.090.17
KG2.21.4089491293.100.17
T-Mac2.21.413895423.110.17
Gary Payton2.31.3585017643.120.17
Wilt#DIV/0!3.150.17
Oscar#DIV/0!3.150.17
Bill Russell#DIV/0!3.150.17
Jerry West#DIV/0!3.150.17
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!3.150.17
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!3.150.17
Rick Barry#DIV/0!3.150.17
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!3.150.17
John Havlicek#DIV/0!3.150.17
Elvin Hayes#DIV/0!3.150.17
Chet Walker#DIV/0!3.150.17
Walt Frazier#DIV/0!3.150.17
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!3.150.17
Bob Lanier#DIV/0!3.150.17
Wes Unseld#DIV/0!3.150.17
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!3.150.17
George Mikan#DIV/0!3.150.17
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!3.150.17
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!3.150.17
Hal Greer#DIV/0!3.150.17
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!3.150.17
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!3.150.17
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!3.150.17
Dave Cowens#DIV/0!3.150.17
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!3.150.17
Willis Reed#DIV/0!3.150.17
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!3.150.17
Pistol Pete#DIV/0!3.150.17
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!3.150.17
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!3.150.17
Sam Jones#DIV/0!3.150.17
Earl Monroe#DIV/0!3.150.17
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!3.150.17
Tiny Archibald#DIV/0!3.150.17
Dave Bing#DIV/0!3.150.17
Dominique2.51.2614251593.150.17
Pau2.21.4406698633.170.17
Dray2.21.4602616513.210.17
David Robinson2.41.3388127243.210.17
Mark Price2.51.2919319723.230.17
Tony Parker2.31899-123.310.16
George Gervin31.1084423233.330.16
Adrian Dantley2.91.1556561713.350.16
Grant Hill2.41.3990821793.360.16
Tim Duncan2.41.4182439613.400.16
Alvin Robertson2.71.263913163.410.16
Clyde Drexler2.71.2663830223.420.16
Andre Miller2.41.4261895673.420.16
Melo2.41.4500303763.480.16
Rod Strickland2.61.3396370523.480.16
MJ2.71.2909460053.490.15
Artis Gilmore3.11.1252992973.490.15
Chris Paul2.41.4546722193.490.15
Kyle Lowry2.41.4553114543.490.15
Blake2.41.4568182923.500.15
Alonzo Mourning2.61.3710233723.560.15
Stockton2.81.3027510183.650.15
D Rose2.51.4594516093.650.15
Moses3.11.1886593733.680.15
Paul Pierce2.61.4258112663.710.15
Larry3.11.1979335573.710.15
Pippen2.81.3285209473.720.15
Shaq2.71.3863906543.740.14
Kyrie2.61.4570249143.790.14
Dr J3.41.1177861923.800.14
CWebb2.81.375213193.850.14
Yao2.71.4354751383.880.14
Tim Hardaway2.91.3388127243.880.14
Hakeem31.2975720113.890.14
Ewing31.3055461783.920.14
Dwight2.71.4535505823.920.14
Rajon Rondo2.71.4553114543.930.14
Paul George2.71.4568182923.930.14
KAT2.71.4726938573.980.14
Chuck3.11.2834466733.980.14
Kevin Johnson3.11.3062359124.050.13
Kidd2.91.3990821794.060.13
Karl Malone3.11.3145749924.080.13
Dame2.81.4602616514.090.13
Nash2.91.4101437294.090.13
Jokic2.81.4726938574.120.13
Kobe31.4135738014.240.13
Giannis2.91.4642176654.250.13
Steph3.11.4574314034.520.12
D Wade3.21899-124.620.12
Magic3.91.1966352774.670.12
IT3.81.2283449054.670.12
KD3.21.4604999884.670.12
AI3.61.4038620775.050.11
LeBron3.51.4500303765.080.11
Harden3.81.4574314035.540.10
Russ4.11.4594516095.980.09
TOPG

We can then do the same with turnovers per 36.

PlayerTOP36MultiplierEA TOP36GOAT POINTS
Horace Grant1.21899-121.590.25
AC Green1.41.2974876421.820.22
Tree Rollins1.61.1986010751.920.21
Sam Perkins1.61.2895184382.060.19
Bill Laimbeer1.71.2200559452.070.19
Mark Eaton1.81.2266675022.210.18
Shawn Marion1.61.4250486382.280.17
LaMarcus Aldridge1.61899-122.330.17
Eddie Jones1.71.3805855612.350.17
Sheed Wallace1.71.4041325162.390.17
Reggie1.81.3344077152.400.17
Dirk1.71.4295303252.430.16
Larry Nance21.2283449052.460.16
Dennis Rodman1.91.3003283052.470.16
Horford1.71.4604999882.480.16
Dan Issel2.31.1058164782.540.16
Jimmy1.81.4570249142.620.15
Fat Lever2.21.2327785442.710.15
James Worthy2.21.2327785442.710.15
Jeff Hornacek2.11.3003283052.730.15
Tyson Chandler1.91.4403442262.740.15
Mo Cheeks2.31.1954544922.750.14
Kawhi1.91.4520027672.760.14
Klay1.91.4570249142.770.14
McHale2.31.2139064032.790.14
Marques Johnson2.51.1278397052.820.14
Clifford Robinson2.11.354803082.850.14
Sidney Moncrief2.41.1866502422.850.14
Vince21.4297554352.860.14
Bobby Jones2.61.1055980092.870.14
Bosh21.4373972762.870.14
Dikembe2.11.3753011982.890.14
Joe Johnson21.446715862.890.14
Iggy21.4535505822.910.14
Jack Sikma2.51899-122.920.14
AD21.4602616512.920.14
Gobert21.4642176652.930.14
Ray Allen2.11.4101437292.960.13
Elton Brand2.11899-122.990.13
Buck Williams2.41.2505818713.000.13
Jason Terry2.11.4308148623.000.13
Detlef Schrempf2.41.2974876423.110.13
Alex English2.71.1556561713.120.13
Robert Parish2.61.2012297413.120.13
Gary Payton2.31.3585017643.120.13
Doc Rivers2.51.2560745453.140.13
Dominique2.51.2614251593.150.13
Millsap2.21.4553114543.200.12
Mookie Blaylock2.41.3344157683.200.12
Marc Gasol2.21.4557750883.200.12
K Love2.21.4594516093.210.12
Terrell Brandon2.41.3414072283.220.12
Otis Thorpe2.51.2895184383.220.12
KG2.31.4089491293.240.12
Chauncey2.31.4151615513.250.12
David Thompson31.0895767583.270.12
AK472.31.4337268613.300.12
Pau2.31.4406698633.310.12
Kareem2.91.144434033.320.12
David Robinson2.51.3388127243.350.12
Adrian Dantley2.91.1556561713.350.12
MJ2.61.2909460053.360.12
Nate McMillan2.61.2919319723.360.12
Mullin2.61.2974876423.370.12
T-Mac2.41.413895423.390.12
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!3.450.12
Bill Russell#DIV/0!3.450.12
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!3.450.12
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!3.450.12
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!3.450.12
Bob Lanier#DIV/0!3.450.12
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!3.450.12
Chet Walker#DIV/0!3.450.12
Dave Bing#DIV/0!3.450.12
Dave Cowens#DIV/0!3.450.12
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!3.450.12
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!3.450.12
Earl Monroe#DIV/0!3.450.12
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!3.450.12
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!3.450.12
Elvin Hayes#DIV/0!3.450.12
George Mikan#DIV/0!3.450.12
Hal Greer#DIV/0!3.450.12
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!3.450.12
Jerry West#DIV/0!3.450.12
John Havlicek#DIV/0!3.450.12
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!3.450.12
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!3.450.12
Oscar#DIV/0!3.450.12
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!3.450.12
Pistol Pete#DIV/0!3.450.12
Rick Barry#DIV/0!3.450.12
Sam Jones#DIV/0!3.450.12
Tiny Archibald#DIV/0!3.450.12
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!3.450.12
Walt Frazier#DIV/0!3.450.12
Wes Unseld#DIV/0!3.450.12
Willis Reed#DIV/0!3.450.12
Wilt#DIV/0!3.450.12
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!3.450.12
Larry2.91.1979335573.470.11
Grant Hill2.51.3990821793.500.11
Vlade Divac2.61.3477829723.500.11
Terry Porter2.71899-123.520.11
George Gervin3.21.1084423233.550.11
Artis Gilmore3.21.1252992973.600.11
Melo2.51.4500303763.630.11
Chris Paul2.51.4546722193.640.11
Clyde Drexler2.91.2663830223.670.11
Tim Duncan2.61.4182439613.690.11
CWebb2.71.375213193.710.11
Blake2.61.4568182923.790.10
Bob McAdoo3.41.1172075153.800.10
Dr J3.41.1177861923.800.10
Pippen2.91.3285209473.850.10
Mark Price31.2919319723.880.10
Shaq2.81.3863906543.880.10
Tim Hardaway2.91.3388127243.880.10
Tony Parker2.71899-123.890.10
Hakeem31.2975720113.890.10
Alvin Robertson3.11.263913163.920.10
Moses3.31.1886593733.920.10
Kyle Lowry2.71.4553114543.930.10
Karl Malone31.3145749923.940.10
Chuck3.11.2834466733.980.10
Paul Pierce2.81.4258112663.990.10
Andre Miller2.81.4261895673.990.10
Manu2.81.4388998424.030.10
Ewing3.11.3055461784.050.10
Kidd2.91.3990821794.060.10
Kyrie2.81.4570249144.080.10
Dame2.81.4602616514.090.10
Dray2.81.4602616514.090.10
KAT2.81.4726938574.120.10
Rod Strickland3.11.3396370524.150.10
Stockton3.21.3027510184.170.10
Kevin Johnson3.21.3062359124.180.10
Bill Walton3.81.1068550684.210.09
Paul George2.91.4568182924.220.09
D Rose2.91.4594516094.230.09
Kobe31.4135738014.240.09
Alonzo Mourning3.11.3710233724.250.09
Yao31.4354751384.310.09
AI3.11.4038620774.350.09
Dwight31.4535505824.360.09
KD3.11.4604999884.530.09
IT3.71.2283449054.540.09
Magic3.81.1966352774.550.09
Nash3.31.4101437294.650.09
Giannis3.21.4642176654.690.08
D Wade3.31899-124.760.08
LeBron3.31.4500303764.790.08
Rajon Rondo3.31.4553114544.800.08
Steph3.31.4574314034.810.08
Jokic3.31.4726938574.860.08
Harden3.91.4574314035.680.07
Russ4.31.4594516096.280.06
TOP36

Assist percentage is up next. This is a pretty simple stat – you just take the number of assists a player has and divide it by the total number of baskets made by their team while they’re on the floor. So how much of the final offensive product a player is creating by assist. Since this is a purely an individual stat (there is no total team assist percentage like there are total team points or total team assists given that this would always by 100), there’s no great way to adjust for era. It doesn’t really make sense to adjust for era anyway since the proportion of a team’s made field goals that a player is responsible for via assist is always going to be dependent on the player rather than the assist. It doesn’t matter if a team is scoring less or more; it’s a percentage stat. And while we could theoretically adjust for assist numbers and say that some eras featured more isolation buckets than others, simply using assist numbers to account for that difference would probably hurt more than help with all the confounding variables at play. So we’ll just use straight assist percentage. There are 0.75 goat points up for grabs here. Now there are unfortunately six guys who played either zero or one seasons from 1965 and on, which is when we have recorded assist percentages. But since we have some reference for assist numbers from assists per game and assists per 36, I won’t just stick those six in the middle. Instead, we will take the average of their rank (1-158) in assists per game and per 36 and put them in that rank here. It’s not perfect either, but it’s a more accurate measure than just sticking them in the middle.

PlayerAST%GOAT POINTS
Stockton50.20.75
Chris Paul45.30.68
Russ41.90.63
Nash41.50.62
Magic40.90.61
Rajon Rondo40.60.61
Kevin Johnson38.80.58
Kidd38.50.58
Tim Hardaway37.90.57
IT37.40.56
Rod Strickland37.30.56
LeBron36.40.54
Mark Price36.10.54
Terrell Brandon35.50.53
Andre Miller34.70.52
Jokic33.90.51
Harden33.40.50
Tony Parker32.20.48
Bob Cousy320.48
Gary Payton31.90.48
Steph31.40.47
Mookie Blaylock30.90.46
Kyle Lowry30.80.46
Nate McMillan30.80.46
Dame30.60.46
D Rose30.50.46
D Wade30.40.45
Kyrie30.40.45
Oscar30.30.45
Tiny Archibald30.10.45
Mo Cheeks29.20.44
Doc Rivers29.20.44
Terry Porter290.43
AI28.80.43
Lenny Wilkens28.30.42
Chauncey28.10.42
Jerry West27.10.40
Fat Lever26.40.39
T-Mac26.30.39
Dray25.30.38
Clyde Drexler25.20.38
MJ24.90.37
Larry24.70.37
Manu24.50.37
Giannis24.30.36
Dave Bing24.30.36
Kobe24.20.36
Jeff Hornacek23.40.35
Pippen23.10.35
Alvin Robertson23.10.35
Pistol Pete23.10.35
Walt Frazier230.34
Jason Terry22.10.33
Grant Hill21.90.33
Blake21.80.33
KD20.40.30
CWebb20.20.30
Jimmy20.10.30
Joe Johnson19.60.29
John Havlicek19.50.29
Iggy19.50.29
KG19.30.29
Vince19.30.29
Rick Barry19.10.29
Paul Pierce18.70.28
Paul George180.27
Dr J17.70.26
Karl Malone17.60.26
Billy Cunningham17.60.26
Chuck17.50.26
Earl Monroe17.50.26
Detlef Schrempf17.20.26
Alex English17.10.26
Marc Gasol17.10.26
Bill Walton17.10.26
Sidney Moncrief170.25
Ed Macauley16.90.25
Pau16.70.25
Horford16.60.25
Bill Sharman16.50.25
Ray Allen16.50.25
Mullin16.50.25
Tim Duncan16.40.25
Dolph Schayes16.20.24
Hal Greer16.20.24
Elgin Baylor16.10.24
Vlade Divac160.24
Marques Johnson15.90.24
Wilt15.80.24
KAT15.50.23
Kawhi15.40.23
David Thompson150.22
Bill Russell14.90.22
Eddie Jones14.70.22
AK4714.70.22
Kareem14.60.22
Bob Pettit14.40.22
George Mikan14.40.22
Reggie14.40.22
Bob Lanier14.40.22
Melo14.40.22
James Worthy140.21
Sam Jones140.21
Shaq13.90.21
Jack Sikma13.70.20
Dave Cowens13.70.20
Wes Unseld13.50.20
Bobby Jones13.20.20
Adrian Dantley130.19
Dirk12.60.19
Millsap12.60.19
K Love12.60.19
David Robinson12.40.19
George Gervin12.20.18
Hakeem12.10.18
Dominique12.10.18
Clifford Robinson12.10.18
Jerry Lucas120.18
AD11.90.18
Larry Nance11.80.18
Paul Arizin11.70.17
Elton Brand11.70.17
Klay11.30.17
Dave DeBusschere110.16
Otis Thorpe10.60.16
Bob McAdoo10.50.16
LaMarcus Aldridge10.20.15
Dan Issel10.10.15
Nate Thurmond100.15
Horace Grant9.90.15
Bosh9.90.15
Ewing9.80.15
Chet Walker9.70.14
Sheed Wallace9.60.14
Yao9.60.14
Artis Gilmore9.40.14
Walt Bellamy9.40.14
Shawn Marion9.10.14
Bill Laimbeer8.90.13
Bailey Howell8.20.12
McHale8.10.12
Sam Perkins80.12
Dennis Rodman7.60.11
Dwight7.30.11
Willis Reed7.30.11
Elvin Hayes70.10
Robert Parish6.90.10
Gobert6.80.10
Zelmo Beaty6.70.10
Alonzo Mourning6.70.10
Moses5.90.09
Buck Williams5.50.08
AC Green5.40.08
Dikembe5.30.08
Tyson Chandler4.70.07
Mark Eaton4.30.06
Tree Rollins3.80.06
AST %

We have turnover percentage next for 0.25 goat points. We’re going to have to do the average thing again since we clearly can’t have a turnover percentage prior to 1978 if we don’t have the turnovers recorded at all. Turnover percentage is “an estimate of turnovers committed per 100 plays”. So here we’re taking a look at an important question – when this players looks to make a play, how often are they coughing up the ball? I am going to adjust for era here since turnover rate should be a little simpler to adjust for than assist rate. There aren’t many factors to consider here beyond the simple one of how often are teams turning it over, so we just adjust by discrepancies in turnovers per game across the years.

PlayerTO%MultiplierEA TO%GOAT POINTS
Dan Issel9.81.10581647810.840.25
LaMarcus Aldridge81899-1211.640.23
MJ9.31.29094600512.010.23
Dirk8.41.42953032512.010.23
Dominique9.71.26142515912.240.22
Alex English10.91.15565617112.600.22
AD8.81.46026165112.850.21
George Gervin11.71.10844232312.970.21
Marques Johnson11.51.12783970512.970.21
Horace Grant9.81899-1213.020.21
Klay91.45702491413.110.21
Sam Perkins10.31.28951843813.280.20
David Thompson12.21.08957675813.290.20
Kawhi9.21.45200276713.360.20
Bill Laimbeer11.31.22005594513.790.20
Shawn Marion9.71.42504863813.820.20
Vince9.71.42975543513.870.20
Larry Nance11.31.22834490513.880.20
James Worthy11.31.23277854413.930.19
Jimmy9.61.45702491413.990.19
Reggie10.51.33440771514.010.19
McHale11.71.21390640314.200.19
Sheed Wallace10.21.40413251614.320.19
Adrian Dantley12.51.15565617114.450.19
Eddie Jones10.51.38058556114.500.19
T-Mac10.31.4138954214.560.19
AC Green11.51.29748764214.920.18
Dr J13.51.11778619215.090.18
Fat Lever12.31.23277854415.160.18
Larry12.71.19793355715.210.18
Melo10.51.45003037615.230.18
Kareem13.41.1444340315.340.18
Bosh10.71.43739727615.380.18
Clifford Robinson11.61.3548030815.720.17
Sidney Moncrief13.31.18665024215.780.17
David Robinson11.91.33881272415.930.17
Bob McAdoo14.31.11720751515.980.17
K Love111.45945160916.050.17
Ray Allen11.41.41014372916.080.17
Jack Sikma13.91899-1216.210.17
Clyde Drexler12.81.26638302216.210.17
Karl Malone12.41.31457499216.300.17
Joe Johnson11.31.4467158616.350.17
Horford11.21.46049998816.360.17
Kobe11.61.41357380116.400.17
Shaq11.91.38639065416.500.16
KG11.81.40894912916.630.16
CWebb12.11.3752131916.640.16
Jeff Hornacek12.81.30032830516.640.16
Robert Parish13.91.20122974116.700.16
Elton Brand11.81899-1216.830.16
Kyrie11.61.45702491416.900.16
Hakeem13.11.29757201117.000.16
Dame11.71.46026165117.090.16
AI12.21.40386207717.130.16
Blake11.81.45681829217.190.16
Mullin13.31.29748764217.260.16
Terrell Brandon12.91.34140722817.300.16
Moses14.61.18865937317.350.16
Gary Payton12.81.35850176417.390.16
Tim Duncan12.31.41824396117.440.16
Jason Terry12.41.43081486217.740.15
Ewing13.61.30554617817.760.15
Millsap12.31.45531145417.900.15
Pau12.51.44066986318.010.15
KD12.51.46049998818.260.15
Wilt#DIV/0!18.310.15
Oscar#DIV/0!18.310.15
Bill Russell#DIV/0!18.310.15
Jerry West#DIV/0!18.310.15
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!18.310.15
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!18.310.15
Rick Barry#DIV/0!18.310.15
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!18.310.15
John Havlicek#DIV/0!18.310.15
Elvin Hayes#DIV/0!18.310.15
Chet Walker#DIV/0!18.310.15
Walt Frazier#DIV/0!18.310.15
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!18.310.15
Bob Lanier#DIV/0!18.310.15
Wes Unseld#DIV/0!18.310.15
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!18.310.15
George Mikan#DIV/0!18.310.15
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!18.310.15
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!18.310.15
Hal Greer#DIV/0!18.310.15
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!18.310.15
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!18.310.15
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!18.310.15
Dave Cowens#DIV/0!18.310.15
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!18.310.15
Willis Reed#DIV/0!18.310.15
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!18.310.15
Pistol Pete#DIV/0!18.310.15
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!18.310.15
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!18.310.15
Sam Jones#DIV/0!18.310.15
Earl Monroe#DIV/0!18.310.15
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!18.310.15
Tiny Archibald#DIV/0!18.310.15
Dave Bing#DIV/0!18.310.15
D Rose12.71.45945160918.540.15
KAT12.61.47269385718.560.15
Bobby Jones16.81.10559800918.570.15
Detlef Schrempf14.41.29748764218.680.15
Paul Pierce13.21.42581126618.820.14
Tree Rollins15.81.19860107518.940.14
Paul George131.45681829218.940.14
Chuck14.81.28344667319.000.14
LeBron13.21.45003037619.140.14
Grant Hill13.71.39908217919.170.14
Mookie Blaylock14.41.33441576819.220.14
Chauncey13.61.41516155119.250.14
Chris Paul13.41.45467221919.490.14
Tim Hardaway14.61.33881272419.550.14
Artis Gilmore17.41.12529929719.580.14
Marc Gasol13.51.45577508819.650.14
D Wade13.71899-1219.780.14
Doc Rivers15.81.25607454519.850.14
Tony Parker13.81899-1219.880.14
Giannis13.71.46421766520.060.14
Otis Thorpe15.61.28951843820.120.13
Steph13.91.45743140320.260.13
Buck Williams16.31.25058187120.380.13
IT16.81.22834490520.640.13
Mark Price161.29193197220.670.13
Pippen15.61.32852094720.720.13
Yao14.51.43547513820.810.13
Alonzo Mourning15.21.37102337220.840.13
Mo Cheeks17.51.19545449220.920.13
Terry Porter16.41899-1221.410.13
Manu14.91.43889984221.440.13
Alvin Robertson171.2639131621.490.13
Iggy151.45355058221.800.12
Kevin Johnson16.71.30623591221.810.12
Jokic14.91.47269385721.940.12
Gobert15.11.46421766522.110.12
AK4715.51.43372686122.220.12
Kyle Lowry15.41.45531145422.410.12
Vlade Divac16.71.34778297222.510.12
Harden15.51.45743140322.590.12
Rod Strickland171.33963705222.770.12
Bill Walton20.61.10685506822.800.12
Russ15.91.45945160923.210.12
Magic19.41.19663527723.210.12
Dikembe17.51.37530119824.070.11
Andre Miller16.91.42618956724.100.11
Mark Eaton19.81.22666750224.290.11
Dwight171.45355058224.710.11
Dennis Rodman19.51.30032830525.360.11
Tyson Chandler17.91.44034422625.780.11
Kidd18.81.39908217926.300.10
Stockton20.81.30275101827.100.10
Nash19.51.41014372927.500.10
Dray21.31.46026165131.100.09
Nate McMillan24.21.29193197231.260.09
Rajon Rondo21.71.45531145431.580.09
TO%

We have assist:turnover ratio next. The stat itself is obviously very simple – you just take assists and divide them by turnovers to determine how many assists a player is producing per turnover. This helps reveal both high assist players who aren’t particularly careful with the ball and low turnover players who are there just because they don’t try to do much with the ball. The players who excel in assist:turnover ratio need to be productive assist men and, to a lesser but still important degree, limit their turnovers. The question is era adjustment, and while there probably is a relatively simple way to do that by messing with the assist and turnover multipliers we already have, I will pass on that like we did with true shooting percentage. I would rather just admit the simplicity of my abilities and use straight up numbers and have to deal with failing to adjust for era-based fluctuation than try to finagle an adjustment and get it wrong. So we’ll just go with normal assist and turnover numbers to create the ratio, and there are 0.75 goat points up for grabs. All players who played in the non-turnover era will end up in the middle by default here as well.

PlayerASTTOAST:TOGOAT POINTS
Chris Paul9.52.43.960.75
Stockton10.52.83.750.71
Nate McMillan6.11.93.210.61
Mo Cheeks6.72.13.190.60
Fat Lever6.223.100.59
Terrell Brandon6.123.050.58
Doc Rivers5.71.93.000.57
Kidd8.72.93.000.57
Kevin Johnson9.13.12.940.56
Nash8.52.92.930.56
Rajon Rondo7.92.72.930.55
Gary Payton6.72.32.910.55
Mookie Blaylock6.72.32.910.55
Magic11.23.92.870.54
Tim Hardaway8.22.92.830.54
Rod Strickland7.32.62.810.53
Jeff Hornacek4.91.82.720.52
Andre Miller6.52.42.710.51
Chauncey5.422.700.51
Mark Price6.72.52.680.51
Terry Porter5.62.12.670.51
Kyle Lowry6.32.42.630.50
Jimmy4.11.62.560.49
Dray5.42.22.450.46
IT9.33.82.450.46
Tony Parker5.62.32.430.46
Dame6.62.82.360.45
Iggy4.21.82.330.44
Jason Terry3.81.72.240.42
Jokic6.22.82.210.42
Horford3.31.52.200.42
Kyrie5.72.62.190.42
D Rose5.42.52.160.41
LeBron7.43.52.110.40
Steph6.53.12.100.40
Clyde Drexler5.62.72.070.39
Joe Johnson3.91.92.050.39
Russ8.44.12.050.39
Larry6.33.12.030.38
T-Mac4.42.22.000.38
Horace Grant2.21.12.000.38
MJ5.32.71.960.37
Manu3.821.900.36
Pippen5.22.81.860.35
Alvin Robertson52.71.850.35
Vince3.11.71.820.35
Kawhi2.91.61.810.34
Eddie Jones2.91.61.810.34
Sidney Moncrief3.621.800.34
Harden6.83.81.790.34
Reggie31.71.760.33
AI6.23.61.720.33
Wilt4.41.710.32
Oscar9.51.710.32
Bill Russell4.31.710.32
Jerry West6.71.710.32
Bob Pettit31.710.32
Dolph Schayes3.11.710.32
Rick Barry4.91.710.32
Walt Bellamy2.41.710.32
John Havlicek4.81.710.32
Elvin Hayes1.81.710.32
Chet Walker2.11.710.32
Walt Frazier6.11.710.32
Bailey Howell21.710.32
Bob Lanier3.11.710.32
Wes Unseld3.91.710.32
Paul Arizin2.31.710.32
George Mikan2.81.710.32
Zelmo Beaty1.51.710.32
Elgin Baylor4.31.710.32
Hal Greer41.710.32
Ed Macauley3.21.710.32
Jerry Lucas3.31.710.32
Lenny Wilkens6.71.710.32
Dave Cowens3.81.710.32
Bob Cousy7.51.710.32
Willis Reed1.81.710.32
Nate Thurmond2.71.710.32
Pistol Pete5.41.710.32
Billy Cunningham4.31.710.32
Dave DeBusschere2.91.710.32
Sam Jones2.51.710.32
Earl Monroe3.91.710.32
Bill Sharman31.710.32
Tiny Archibald7.41.710.32
Dave Bing61.710.32
Blake4.12.41.710.32
Grant Hill4.12.41.710.32
Marc Gasol3.421.700.32
Detlef Schrempf3.421.700.32
D Wade5.43.21.690.32
KG3.72.21.680.32
Ray Allen3.42.11.620.31
Giannis4.62.91.590.30
Kobe4.731.570.30
Mullin3.52.31.520.29
CWebb4.22.81.500.28
James Worthy321.500.28
Marques Johnson3.62.41.500.28
Dirk2.41.61.500.28
Pau3.22.21.450.28
Alex English3.62.51.440.27
AK472.71.91.420.27
Vlade Divac3.12.21.410.27
Jack Sikma3.22.31.390.26
Larry Nance2.61.91.370.26
Klay2.31.71.350.26
Bobby Jones2.721.350.26
Paul Pierce3.52.61.350.25
KD4.33.21.340.25
Paul George3.62.71.330.25
Bill Laimbeer21.51.330.25
Kareem3.62.71.330.25
Millsap2.21.71.290.25
LaMarcus Aldridge1.91.51.270.24
Shawn Marion1.91.51.270.24
K Love2.41.91.260.24
Bill Walton3.42.71.260.24
Chuck3.93.11.260.24
Tim Duncan32.41.250.24
Sam Perkins1.51.21.250.24
Dr J4.23.41.240.23
Clifford Robinson2.21.81.220.23
David Thompson3.32.71.220.23
Sheed Wallace1.81.51.200.23
Karl Malone3.63.11.160.22
AD2.321.150.22
KAT3.12.71.150.22
Melo2.72.41.130.21
Dennis Rodman1.81.61.130.21
Elton Brand2.11.91.110.21
Dan Issel2.42.21.090.21
David Robinson2.52.41.040.20
Adrian Dantley32.91.030.20
Bosh221.000.19
AC Green1.11.11.000.19
Otis Thorpe2.22.21.000.19
Dominique2.52.51.000.19
Shaq2.52.70.930.18
McHale1.71.90.890.17
Bob McAdoo2.32.60.880.17
George Gervin2.630.870.16
Hakeem2.530.830.16
Gobert1.31.60.810.15
Artis Gilmore2.33.10.740.14
Mark Eaton11.50.670.13
Robert Parish1.42.10.670.13
Tree Rollins0.60.90.670.13
Ewing1.930.630.12
Buck Williams1.32.10.620.12
Yao1.62.70.590.11
Tyson Chandler0.81.40.570.11
Dikembe11.80.560.11
Dwight1.32.70.480.09
Alonzo Mourning1.12.60.420.08
Moses1.33.10.420.08
AST:TO

And with that, we’ve finished our second category. Here’s the leaderboard for the playmaking alone, and then we’ll do another one for our cumulative leaders after two categories.

PlayerGOAT POINTS
Stockton4.30
Chris Paul4.15
Magic3.82
Nash3.73
Kidd3.63
Kevin Johnson3.60
Rajon Rondo3.50
Tim Hardaway3.41
Russ3.31
IT3.31
Rod Strickland3.28
Oscar3.28
Terrell Brandon3.14
Andre Miller3.12
Gary Payton3.11
Bob Cousy3.10
Nate McMillan3.05
Mark Price3.05
Mookie Blaylock3.03
LeBron3.02
Mo Cheeks3.01
Kyle Lowry2.91
Fat Lever2.90
Doc Rivers2.86
Dame2.82
Tiny Archibald2.81
Tony Parker2.81
Chauncey2.80
Terry Porter2.79
Steph2.76
Jokic2.76
Harden2.76
Lenny Wilkens2.73
Jerry West2.65
Kyrie2.63
D Rose2.60
AI2.59
Dray2.57
Jeff Hornacek2.57
Larry2.49
D Wade2.46
Dave Bing2.46
Clyde Drexler2.45
Walt Frazier2.43
T-Mac2.40
MJ2.39
Jimmy2.35
Pippen2.30
Pistol Pete2.28
Jason Terry2.27
Iggy2.26
Manu2.23
Alvin Robertson2.22
Kobe2.21
Rick Barry2.17
John Havlicek2.14
Joe Johnson2.14
Grant Hill2.11
Giannis2.11
Blake2.06
Horford2.06
Billy Cunningham2.02
CWebb2.02
Vince2.00
KG2.00
Elgin Baylor1.98
Bill Russell1.98
Hal Greer1.95
Sidney Moncrief1.94
Wilt1.94
KD1.93
Earl Monroe1.92
Eddie Jones1.90
Detlef Schrempf1.89
Ray Allen1.89
Horace Grant1.88
Marc Gasol1.87
Kawhi1.87
Reggie1.85
Alex English1.85
Marques Johnson1.84
Ed Macauley1.83
Dr J1.82
Mullin1.81
Paul Pierce1.81
Wes Unseld1.81
Bill Sharman1.80
Pau1.77
Dolph Schayes1.77
Dave Cowens1.77
Paul George1.76
Chuck1.75
Vlade Divac1.72
James Worthy1.71
Dirk1.71
Kareem1.70
Bob Pettit1.70
Karl Malone1.69
George Mikan1.69
David Thompson1.69
Jerry Lucas1.68
Bill Walton1.68
Tim Duncan1.67
Bob Lanier1.67
AK471.66
Jack Sikma1.66
Sam Jones1.65
Bobby Jones1.62
Dave DeBusschere1.59
Larry Nance1.59
Klay1.55
KAT1.54
Melo1.53
Nate Thurmond1.52
Dan Issel1.52
K Love1.52
LaMarcus Aldridge1.51
Bill Laimbeer1.51
Clifford Robinson1.51
Millsap1.51
Adrian Dantley1.49
Paul Arizin1.49
Shawn Marion1.48
Sam Perkins1.47
AD1.47
Walt Bellamy1.45
Sheed Wallace1.45
Dominique1.44
David Robinson1.43
Elton Brand1.42
Shaq1.41
Chet Walker1.41
George Gervin1.40
Bailey Howell1.37
Bosh1.34
AC Green1.32
Otis Thorpe1.32
Hakeem1.30
Bob McAdoo1.29
Willis Reed1.29
Dennis Rodman1.28
Elvin Hayes1.25
McHale1.24
Zelmo Beaty1.23
Tree Rollins1.19
Artis Gilmore1.18
Ewing1.09
Gobert1.07
Robert Parish1.06
Yao1.04
Mark Eaton1.00
Buck Williams0.96
Tyson Chandler0.92
Dikembe0.91
Dwight0.87
Moses0.86
Alonzo Mourning0.84
Playmaking Goat Points

And the cumulative leaderboard after scoring and playmaking –

PlayerTOTAL GOAT POINTS
LeBron11.07
Steph11.00
Magic10.91
Chris Paul10.88
Harden10.85
MJ10.68
Stockton10.62
Larry10.60
Dame10.59
Oscar10.50
Nash10.44
AI10.40
Tim Hardaway10.37
Russ10.33
KD10.21
Kyrie10.17
Kevin Johnson10.14
Jerry West10.08
Kobe10.08
Mark Price10.01
IT9.86
Rick Barry9.81
Jokic9.74
Chauncey9.57
Wilt9.57
D Wade9.52
Clyde Drexler9.52
Reggie9.40
T-Mac9.40
Pistol Pete9.40
George Mikan9.39
Kidd9.38
Gary Payton9.38
Bob Cousy9.29
Ray Allen9.29
Tiny Archibald9.24
Giannis9.23
Kyle Lowry9.20
Terrell Brandon9.11
Elgin Baylor9.10
Bob Pettit9.09
Karl Malone9.08
Paul Pierce9.08
Jeff Hornacek9.08
Terry Porter9.08
Chuck9.08
Dirk9.07
KAT9.07
Dominique9.06
Dr J9.03
D Rose8.96
Mookie Blaylock8.96
Tony Parker8.94
Kawhi8.94
Paul George8.91
Mullin8.90
George Gervin8.90
Dave Bing8.89
David Thompson8.85
Jimmy8.83
Rod Strickland8.83
Blake8.79
Melo8.78
Paul Arizin8.78
AD8.73
Ed Macauley8.73
Lenny Wilkens8.69
Klay8.67
Manu8.64
Vince8.62
Pippen8.62
CWebb8.61
John Havlicek8.56
Bill Sharman8.54
Billy Cunningham8.54
Adrian Dantley8.53
Fat Lever8.50
Jason Terry8.50
Andre Miller8.49
Doc Rivers8.42
Grant Hill8.40
Dolph Schayes 8.39
Eddie Jones8.39
Rajon Rondo8.38
Joe Johnson8.38
Shaq8.36
Alex English8.36
David Robinson8.33
Mo Cheeks8.32
K Love8.30
KG8.27
Sidney Moncrief8.24
Kareem8.22
Detlef Schrempf8.21
Hal Greer8.21
Pau8.19
Dan Issel8.14
Bosh8.09
Walt Bellamy8.08
Tim Duncan7.97
Marques Johnson7.96
Sam Jones7.95
Walt Frazier7.94
LaMarcus Aldridge7.93
Horford7.92
Alvin Robertson7.92
Jack Sikma7.87
Bob Lanier7.87
Hakeem7.84
Bailey Howell7.84
Chet Walker7.84
James Worthy7.83
Marc Gasol7.77
Jerry Lucas7.76
Iggy7.73
McHale7.66
Yao7.62
Nate McMillan7.61
Clifford Robinson7.58
Shawn Marion7.57
Willis Reed7.57
Bob McAdoo7.56
Sheed Wallace7.55
Ewing7.47
Bill Russell7.47
Dray7.45
Sam Perkins7.42
AK477.42
Larry Nance7.41
Artis Gilmore7.40
Millsap7.40
Earl Monroe7.32
Bill Laimbeer7.30
Dave DeBusschere7.27
Alonzo Mourning7.27
Elvin Hayes7.14
Dwight7.07
Vlade Divac7.06
Nate Thurmond7.05
Elton Brand7.03
Moses7.01
Dave Cowens6.99
Zelmo Beaty6.90
Wes Unseld6.89
Otis Thorpe6.62
Bobby Jones6.57
Horace Grant6.56
Gobert6.54
Bill Walton6.51
AC Green6.41
Buck Williams6.32
Robert Parish6.22
Dennis Rodman5.80
Tyson Chandler5.61
Dikembe5.55
Tree Rollins4.98
Mark Eaton4.47
Cumulative Goat Points

There’s still plenty of time to go, but we see LeBron and Steph leading after scoring and playmaking. Magic, Paul, and Stockton take some jumps here. Guys like Tim Hardaway and Kevin Johnson are in the top 20 after a playmaking boost. Some big names in an early hole – Shaq (86th), KG (91st), Kareem (93rd), Tim Duncan (100th), Hakeem (109th), and Bill Russell (125th). There’s obviously a common theme in type of player there, and we’ll start to see them rise after our next category – rebounding.

REBOUNDING (5)

Rebounding gets 5 points as well. It’s probably pretty widely accepted that rebounding on its own is a less impactful area of the game than scoring. I tend to group it with passing or playmaking as the two big secondary pieces beyond scoring, though some might disagree with that method. Sometimes we can give rebounding less props than it deserves – likely because the correlation between height and rebounding volume makes it easier to pass it off as a relatively skill-less piece of the game. But it isn’t quite as easy as it might seem, and it’s also important regardless. Offensive rebounds to gain new possessions are massive, and securing the defensive glass on the other to both spark your next possession and limit the other team’s shots is a key piece of any game plan. The other important aspect that separates rebounds from something like a steal or a block is the volume. Rebounds don’t come on every possession, but they still come on a lot of them. As far as reasons to discredit the importance go, the same idea of a niche group of rebounders exists here too; it’s certainly far easier to be considered a good player with underwhelming rebounding numbers than it is with underwhelming scoring numbers. We also have less statistics available here than for scoring. We can look at total and offensive/defensive rebounding numbers and percentages, but there isn’t much else out there that’s widely available.

Subcategories:

  • Pure Volume (3.75) – Rebounds per game (2.25), Rebounds per 36 (1.5)
  • Percentages (1.25) – Rebound percentage (1.25)

I’m making the executive decision to just use total rebounds here. While there is value in distinguishing between the offensive and defensive glass and rewarding players who excel in either category, it’s going to be very rare to find a player that grabs a ton of offensive or defensive boards but doesn’t grab a lot of total rebounds – and the same goes in the opposite direction with few offensive or defensive boards grabbed. There’s obviously a little more leeway in that with offensive rebounds, which come with less frequency, but the general point that total rebounds are a fairly accurate measure of rebounding prowess still stands. This matters because offensive and defensive boards were not recorded as their own stat before 1974, which means that we’d be putting a decent amount of good and bad rebounders from the first 20+ years of league history right in the middle on the offensive and defensive glass. I don’t think it makes sense to have those guys rise and fall when we…

1) have a way to measure general rebounding prowess to begin with. This is not something like three-point shooting, which is a completely unique aspect of scoring, nor is it something like a turnover, which is obviously distinct from an assist

and 2) have very few players who have an uneven tilt towards offensive or defensive rebounds, especially considering that the total rebound numbers we’ll be using act as a balance point anyway (a player with high offensive rebounding numbers and mediocre defensive rebounding numbers will see this balance reflected in a an above-average total rebounding spot).

So rather than putting stock into messing around with those averages, we will just put more emphasis on the total rebound numbers.

And with that, we’ll get started with total rebounds per game. We’ll adjust for era as usual. One last note – rebounds weren’t recorded at all in George Mikan’s first two seasons (1949 and 1950) or the first season for Dolph Schayes and Ed Macauley (’50), so we’ll just use what we got there.

PlayerREBMultiplierEA REBGOAT POINTS
Wilt22.91.18413640827.122.25
Bill Russell22.51.08972144724.522.03
Dennis Rodman13.11.72281354722.571.87
Wes Unseld141899-1221.181.76
Dave Cowens13.61.54062969120.951.74
Moses12.31.67390925820.591.71
Dwight11.81.71911476420.291.68
Chuck11.71.71842654120.111.67
Nate Thurmond151.33145490619.971.66
Jerry Lucas15.61.26988333319.811.64
Artis Gilmore12.31.60491915819.741.64
Gobert11.71.67263582219.571.62
Elvin Hayes12.51.54479332219.311.60
Shaq10.91.75481052419.131.59
Hakeem11.11.71987372119.091.58
Tim Duncan10.81.74612393318.861.56
KAT11.31.66213590518.781.56
George Mikan13.41.38552527918.571.54
David Robinson10.61.73440128818.381.53
K Love10.71.70420607518.241.51
Dikembe10.31.74918721718.021.49
Bob Pettit16.21.10251379517.861.48
Kareem11.21.59193254317.831.48
KG101.7497303317.501.45
Karl Malone10.11.72354561217.411.44
Jokic10.41.66213590517.291.43
Walt Bellamy13.71.26147050117.281.43
CWebb9.81.75456335117.191.43
Bill Walton10.51.63703280117.191.43
AD10.21.67995656317.141.42
Buck Williams101.70997593517.101.42
Ewing9.81.72165128316.871.40
Larry101.68274499416.831.40
Willis Reed12.91.28533904216.581.38
Bill Laimbeer9.71.68952518816.391.36
Jack Sikma9.81899-1216.371.36
Yao9.21.76467653116.241.35
Pau9.21.73363325215.951.32
Bob Lanier10.11899-1215.901.32
Giannis9.41.67263582215.721.30
Elgin Baylor13.51.15538146715.601.29
Tyson Chandler91.72873808115.561.29
Robert Parish9.11.68439324215.331.27
Shawn Marion8.71.74778739215.211.26
Bob McAdoo9.41.61345980715.171.26
Alonzo Mourning8.51.75148666814.891.24
Bosh8.51.74837713614.861.23
Elton Brand8.51899-1214.821.23
Dolph Schayes12.11.19572797114.471.20
Dan Issel9.11.57232972514.311.19
Vlade Divac8.21.736093814.241.18
Billy Cunningham10.41.35577036714.101.17
Otis Thorpe8.21.7190727314.101.17
Horace Grant8.11899-1214.001.16
Horford8.21.70725900314.001.16
Blake8.21.69305284213.881.15
LaMarcus Aldridge8.11899-1213.871.15
Zelmo Beaty10.91.26783874713.821.15
Dave DeBusschere111.25588880813.811.15
Dr J8.51.59937983113.591.13
Larry Nance81.68951518913.521.12
Mark Eaton7.91.68770363213.331.11
Dirk7.51.73384223513.001.08
LeBron7.51.72030378512.901.07
AC Green7.41.72091132812.731.06
Marc Gasol7.41.70824612812.641.05
Russ7.41.70420607512.611.05
McHale7.31.68800386912.321.02
Magic7.21.69026336512.171.01
Millsap7.11.71232538912.161.01
KD7.11.70725900312.121.01
Sheed Wallace6.71.75819353711.780.98
Marques Johnson71.66097743911.630.96
Dray6.91.67995656311.590.96
Dominique6.71.71426621511.490.95
Bailey Howell9.91899-1211.290.94
Kidd6.31.75864792611.080.92
Pippen6.41.72889013311.060.92
Paul George6.41.69305284210.840.90
Kawhi6.41.68895863910.810.90
Detlef Schrempf6.21.72091132810.670.89
Melo6.21.72030378510.670.88
MJ6.21.71871499310.660.88
Grant Hill61.75864792610.550.88
Clyde Drexler6.11.71521668910.460.87
Paul Arizin8.61.21024302610.410.86
Sam Perkins61.7190727310.310.86
Fat Lever61.68950352310.140.84
Bobby Jones6.11.6248682999.910.82
T-Mac5.61.7555772179.830.82
Paul Pierce5.61.7418381889.750.81
Tree Rollins5.81.6802092419.750.81
AK475.51.7515642719.630.80
Rick Barry6.71.4361438939.620.80
Ed Macauley7.51.2767528939.580.79
Harden5.61.6984018499.510.79
Adrian Dantley5.71.6627258689.480.79
Oscar7.51.2216289989.160.76
Alex English5.51.6627258689.140.76
Kobe5.21.7482337959.090.75
Chet Walker7.11.2793211739.080.75
Jimmy5.31.6855701638.930.74
Alvin Robertson5.21.7049618758.870.74
Walt Frazier5.91.4682051538.660.72
James Worthy5.11.6895035238.620.71
George Gervin5.31.6083536428.520.71
Iggy4.91.7191147648.420.70
John Havlicek6.31.3314267048.390.70
D Wade4.71899-128.150.68
Clifford Robinson4.61.7421391618.010.66
Sidney Moncrief4.71.682813567.910.66
Steph4.61.6984018497.810.65
Chris Paul4.51.7170523037.730.64
Rajon Rondo4.51.7123253897.710.64
Kyle Lowry4.41.7123253897.530.63
Vince4.31.7296050887.440.62
Ray Allen4.11.7549518967.200.60
Mookie Blaylock4.11.7341561067.110.59
Jerry West5.81.2216289987.090.59
Dame4.21.6799565637.060.59
Mullin4.11.7209113287.060.59
Eddie Jones41.7577962817.030.58
Joe Johnson41.7217548166.890.57
Nate McMillan41.7202927526.880.57
Gary Payton3.91.7443040286.800.56
David Thompson4.11.6209486496.650.55
AI3.71.7574936396.500.54
Andre Miller3.71.7436870866.450.54
Pistol Pete4.21.5295241216.420.53
Rod Strickland3.71.7324564996.410.53
Kyrie3.81.6855701636.410.53
Bob Cousy5.21.1896789816.190.51
Manu3.51.7403626116.090.51
IT3.61.6895151896.080.50
Klay3.51.6855701635.900.49
Hal Greer51.175193985.880.49
Jeff Hornacek3.41.7228135475.860.49
Lenny Wilkens4.71.2442210355.850.49
Tim Hardaway3.31.7344012885.720.47
Kevin Johnson3.31.7268411635.700.47
D Rose3.31.7042060755.620.47
Dave Bing3.81.409642885.360.44
Sam Jones4.91.0823745165.300.44
Nash31.7549518965.260.44
Terrell Brandon31.7401121245.220.43
Reggie31.7302949375.190.43
Terry Porter31899-125.160.43
Doc Rivers31.7052957565.120.42
Chauncey2.91.7529889985.080.42
Bill Sharman3.91.2266822324.780.40
Mo Cheeks2.81.680475174.710.39
Tony Parker2.71899-124.680.39
Stockton2.71.7208060864.650.39
Mark Price2.61.7202927524.470.37
Earl Monroe31.4682051534.400.37
Jason Terry2.31.7379995174.000.33
Tiny Archibald2.31.5739670913.620.30
RPG

We can do rebounds per 36 next using the same methods for everything. There are 1.5 goat points on the line here.

PlayerRP36MultiplierEA RP36GOAT POINTS
Dennis Rodman14.91.72281354725.671.50
Gobert141.67263582223.421.37
Dwight13.31.71911476422.861.34
Bill Walton13.41.63703280121.941.28
Moses131.67390925821.761.27
Wilt181.18413640821.311.25
Dikembe12.11.74918721721.171.24
K Love12.41.70420607521.131.23
Wes Unseld13.81899-1220.881.22
Bill Russell19.11.08972144720.811.22
Tyson Chandler11.91.72873808120.571.20
Jokic12.31.66213590520.441.19
Tim Duncan11.51.74612393320.081.17
Artis Gilmore12.51.60491915820.061.17
KAT11.91.66213590519.781.16
Chuck11.51.71842654119.761.15
Shaq11.21.75481052419.651.15
Dave Cowens12.71.54062969119.571.14
Robert Parish11.61.68439324219.541.14
Nate Thurmond14.51.33145490619.311.13
Hakeem11.21.71987372119.261.13
George Mikan13.81.38552527919.121.12
David Robinson111.73440128819.081.11
Buck Williams111.70997593518.811.10
Bill Laimbeer111.68952518818.581.09
Jerry Lucas14.51.26988333318.411.08
KG10.51.7497303318.371.07
Elvin Hayes11.71.54479332218.071.06
Yao10.21.76467653118.001.05
AD10.71.67995656317.981.05
Ewing10.31.72165128317.731.04
Jack Sikma10.51899-1217.541.02
Giannis10.41.67263582217.401.02
Kareem10.91.59193254317.351.01
Alonzo Mourning9.91.75148666817.341.01
Vlade Divac9.91.736093817.191.00
Pau9.91.73363325217.161.00
Bob Lanier10.91899-1217.161.00
Tree Rollins10.11.68020924116.970.99
Karl Malone9.81.72354561216.890.99
Willis Reed13.11.28533904216.840.98
Mark Eaton9.91.68770363216.710.98
CWebb9.51.75456335116.670.97
Walt Bellamy13.21.26147050116.650.97
Bob Pettit15.11.10251379516.650.97
Bob McAdoo10.21.61345980716.460.96
Elton Brand9.31899-1216.220.95
Otis Thorpe9.41.7190727316.160.94
AC Green9.31.72091132816.000.94
Shawn Marion9.11.74778739215.900.93
Larry9.41.68274499415.820.92
Millsap9.11.71232538915.580.91
Horford9.11.70725900315.540.91
Blake91.69305284215.240.89
Horace Grant8.81899-1215.210.89
Dan Issel9.61.57232972515.090.88
Bosh8.61.74837713615.040.88
LaMarcus Aldridge8.71899-1214.900.87
Zelmo Beaty11.71.26783874714.830.87
Dray8.81.67995656314.780.86
Dolph Schayes12.31.19572797114.710.86
Larry Nance8.61.68951518914.530.85
Billy Cunningham10.71.35577036714.510.85
McHale8.51.68800386914.350.84
Marc Gasol8.31.70824612814.180.83
Elgin Baylor12.21.15538146714.100.82
Dirk8.11.73384223514.040.82
Dave DeBusschere11.11.25588880813.940.81
Dr J8.41.59937983113.430.79
Russ7.71.70420607513.120.77
Sheed Wallace7.41.75819353713.010.76
Bobby Jones81.62486829913.000.76
Detlef Schrempf7.51.72091132812.910.75
Sam Perkins7.51.7190727312.890.75
Bailey Howell111899-1212.550.73
Kawhi7.41.68895863912.500.73
Marques Johnson7.31.66097743912.130.71
LeBron71.72030378512.040.70
Magic7.11.69026336512.000.70
KD6.91.70725900311.780.69
Paul George6.91.69305284211.680.68
Dominique6.81.71426621511.660.68
AK476.61.75156427111.560.68
Fat Lever6.81.68950352311.490.67
Pippen6.61.72889013311.410.67
Grant Hill6.41.75864792611.260.66
Melo6.51.72030378511.180.65
Kidd6.31.75864792611.080.65
Clyde Drexler6.41.71521668910.980.64
T-Mac6.21.75557721710.880.64
Alex English6.21.66272586810.310.60
Paul Pierce5.91.74183818810.280.60
MJ5.91.71871499310.140.59
Chet Walker7.91.27932117310.110.59
Alvin Robertson5.91.70496187510.060.59
Harden5.81.6984018499.850.58
Nate McMillan5.71.7202927529.810.57
Jimmy5.81.6855701639.780.57
Adrian Dantley5.81.6627258689.640.56
Paul Arizin7.91.2102430269.560.56
James Worthy5.61.6895035239.460.55
Iggy5.51.7191147649.460.55
Ed Macauley7.41.2767528939.450.55
Sidney Moncrief5.61.682813569.420.55
Rajon Rondo5.51.7123253899.420.55
Rick Barry6.51.4361438939.330.55
Clifford Robinson5.31.7421391619.230.54
George Gervin5.71.6083536429.170.54
Kobe5.21.7482337959.090.53
Vince5.11.7296050888.820.52
Manu51.7403626118.700.51
D Wade51899-128.670.51
Kyle Lowry4.91.7123253898.390.49
Steph4.91.6984018498.320.49
John Havlicek6.21.3314267048.250.48
Walt Frazier5.61.4682051538.220.48
Chris Paul4.71.7170523038.070.47
Oscar6.41.2216289987.820.46
Mullin4.51.7209113287.740.45
Rod Strickland4.41.7324564997.620.45
Andre Miller4.31.7436870867.500.44
Eddie Jones4.21.7577962817.380.43
David Thompson4.51.6209486497.290.43
Mookie Blaylock4.21.7341561067.280.43
Ray Allen4.11.7549518967.200.42
Joe Johnson4.11.7217548167.060.41
Gary Payton41.7443040286.980.41
Sam Jones6.41.0823745166.930.40
Dame4.11.6799565636.890.40
Doc Rivers41.7052957566.820.40
Kyrie41.6855701636.740.39
Jeff Hornacek3.91.7228135476.720.39
Terry Porter3.91899-126.710.39
D Rose3.81.7042060756.480.38
Jerry West5.31.2216289986.470.38
Klay3.81.6855701636.410.37
Pistol Pete4.11.5295241216.270.37
Terrell Brandon3.61.7401121246.260.37
Bob Cousy5.11.1896789816.070.35
Kevin Johnson3.51.7268411636.040.35
Hal Greer5.11.175193985.990.35
Lenny Wilkens4.81.2442210355.970.35
Nash3.41.7549518965.970.35
IT3.51.6895151895.910.35
Tim Hardaway3.41.7344012885.900.34
AI3.31.7574936395.800.34
Chauncey3.31.7529889985.780.34
Tony Parker3.21899-125.550.32
Reggie3.21.7302949375.540.32
Bill Sharman4.41.2266822325.400.32
Mo Cheeks3.21.680475175.380.31
Dave Bing3.81.409642885.360.31
Stockton3.11.7208060865.330.31
Mark Price3.11.7202927525.330.31
Earl Monroe3.41.4682051534.990.29
Jason Terry2.81.7379995174.870.28
Tiny Archibald2.41.5739670913.780.22
RP36

Lastly, we’ll get to rebounding percentage. Like most of the percentage stats, this is a pretty simple one. It’s just “an estimate” of the percentage of the total possible rebounds that one player grabs. In other words, it takes the context of rebound opportunities into account rather than a gross count of total rebounds without any consideration of context. We have 1.25 goat points on the line here. I won’t be adjusting for era here for similar reasons as assist percentage. The added context of the percentage stat makes the era adjustment relatively useless. We don’t need to worry about players from different eras having a different number of rebound opportunities per game when the stat is based on controlling for that variable. One last note – rebound percentage was first recorded in 1971. There are nine players with no recorded rebound percentage as a result. Rather than put them all in the middle, I’m going to use the same approach we used with assist percentage since we have some existing reference for their rebounding ability. We’ll take the average of their place (1-157) in the first two rebounding categories and then just place them there for rebounding percentage as well. It’s not a perfect replacement for an actual number, but it’s a more accurate method than the alternative halfway approach.

PlayerREB %GOAT POINTS
Dennis Rodman23.41.50
Gobert21.71.39
Dwight21.11.35
Moses19.81.27
Bill Walton19.81.27
Bill Russell19.61.26
Wilt19.41.24
K Love19.31.24
Dikembe19.11.22
Jokic191.22
Tyson Chandler18.81.21
KAT18.51.19
Tim Duncan18.41.18
Chuck18.21.17
Artis Gilmore181.15
Wes Unseld181.15
Robert Parish17.91.15
Shaq17.81.14
David Robinson17.31.11
Hakeem17.21.10
Buck Williams17.21.10
George Mikan17.21.10
Dave Cowens17.11.10
KG171.09
Bill Laimbeer16.71.07
Nate Thurmond16.71.07
Yao16.51.06
Ewing16.41.05
AD16.31.04
Jack Sikma16.21.04
Walt Bellamy16.11.03
Karl Malone161.03
Alonzo Mourning15.91.02
Kareem15.71.01
Giannis15.71.01
Bob Pettit15.71.01
Elvin Hayes15.61.00
Bob Lanier15.61.00
Willis Reed15.61.00
Pau15.50.99
Tree Rollins15.50.99
Vlade Divac15.40.99
Jerry Lucas15.30.98
Elton Brand150.96
Zelmo Beaty150.96
Mark Eaton150.96
AC Green14.70.94
Bob McAdoo14.70.94
Otis Thorpe14.60.94
CWebb14.60.94
Larry14.50.93
Millsap14.50.93
Horford14.40.92
Shawn Marion14.30.92
Dave DeBusschere14.30.92
Blake14.20.91
Billy Cunningham14.20.91
Horace Grant14.10.90
Bosh14.10.90
Dolph Schayes14.10.90
LaMarcus Aldridge13.80.88
Larry Nance13.60.87
Marc Gasol13.30.85
Dan Issel13.20.85
McHale13.20.85
Dray13.20.85
Dirk12.70.81
Bailey Howell12.40.79
Sheed Wallace12.10.78
Detlef Schrempf120.77
Dr J11.90.76
Sam Perkins11.90.76
Bobby Jones11.80.76
Russ11.70.75
Kawhi11.40.73
LeBron11.30.72
Marques Johnson11.20.72
Magic11.10.71
AK47110.71
KD10.80.69
Pippen10.60.68
Grant Hill10.50.67
Paul George10.50.67
Dominique10.40.67
Elgin Baylor10.20.65
Melo10.10.65
Fat Lever10.10.65
Kidd100.64
Clyde Drexler9.90.63
T-Mac9.80.63
Paul Pierce9.60.62
MJ9.40.60
Alvin Robertson9.40.60
Nate McMillan9.10.58
Harden90.58
Alex English90.58
Jimmy8.90.57
James Worthy8.90.57
Paul Arizin8.90.57
Chet Walker8.70.56
Iggy8.70.56
Rajon Rondo8.70.56
Adrian Dantley8.60.55
Sidney Moncrief8.60.55
Ed Macauley8.60.55
Clifford Robinson8.40.54
Vince8.20.53
George Gervin8.20.53
Kobe8.10.52
D Wade8.10.52
Rick Barry80.51
Manu80.51
Kyle Lowry7.80.50
Walt Frazier7.60.49
Chris Paul7.50.48
John Havlicek7.40.47
Steph7.40.47
Andre Miller6.90.44
Mullin6.90.44
Rod Strickland6.90.44
Ray Allen6.80.44
Eddie Jones6.80.44
Mookie Blaylock6.60.42
Joe Johnson6.60.42
Gary Payton6.50.42
David Thompson6.50.42
Oscar6.40.41
Dame6.30.40
Jeff Hornacek6.20.40
Kyrie6.20.40
Doc Rivers6.20.40
Terry Porter6.10.39
Terrell Brandon6.10.39
D Rose5.80.37
Klay5.80.37
Lenny Wilkens5.50.35
Pistol Pete5.50.35
Nash5.40.35
Kevin Johnson5.40.35
Chauncey5.30.34
Hal Greer5.30.34
IT5.30.34
Tim Hardaway5.30.34
Bob Cousy5.30.34
Sam Jones5.30.34
Reggie5.10.33
Jerry West5.10.33
Tony Parker5.10.33
AI5.10.33
Stockton50.32
Mo Cheeks4.90.31
Mark Price4.90.31
Bill Sharman4.90.31
Dave Bing4.70.30
Jason Terry4.50.29
Earl Monroe4.40.28
Tiny Archibald3.40.22
REB %

And that’s all we’ve got for rebounds. The cumulative rebound leaderboard is here –

PlayerGOAT POINTS
Dennis Rodman4.87
Wilt4.74
Bill Russell4.51
Gobert4.38
Dwight4.37
Moses4.25
Wes Unseld4.13
Chuck3.99
K Love3.98
Dave Cowens3.98
Bill Walton3.98
Artis Gilmore3.96
Dikembe3.96
Tim Duncan3.92
KAT3.90
Shaq3.88
Nate Thurmond3.86
Jokic3.85
Hakeem3.81
George Mikan3.76
David Robinson3.75
Jerry Lucas3.70
Tyson Chandler3.70
Elvin Hayes3.66
Buck Williams3.62
KG3.61
Robert Parish3.56
AD3.52
Bill Laimbeer3.52
Kareem3.50
Ewing3.49
Bob Pettit3.46
Karl Malone3.46
Yao3.46
Walt Bellamy3.44
Jack Sikma3.42
Willis Reed3.36
CWebb3.34
Giannis3.33
Bob Lanier3.32
Pau3.32
Alonzo Mourning3.27
Larry3.25
Vlade Divac3.17
Bob McAdoo3.16
Elton Brand3.14
Shawn Marion3.11
Otis Thorpe3.05
Mark Eaton3.04
Bosh3.02
Horford2.99
Zelmo Beaty2.97
Dolph Schayes2.96
Horace Grant2.95
Blake2.95
AC Green2.93
Billy Cunningham2.93
Dan Issel2.92
LaMarcus Aldridge2.91
Dave DeBusschere2.88
Millsap2.85
Larry Nance2.84
Tree Rollins2.79
Elgin Baylor2.77
Marc Gasol2.73
Dirk2.71
McHale2.71
Dr J2.68
Dray2.67
Russ2.56
Sheed Wallace2.51
LeBron2.50
Bailey Howell2.46
Magic2.42
Detlef Schrempf2.41
Marques Johnson2.39
KD2.39
Sam Perkins2.37
Kawhi2.36
Bobby Jones2.34
Dominique2.30
Pippen2.26
Paul George2.25
Kidd2.21
Grant Hill2.21
Melo2.19
AK472.18
Fat Lever2.16
Clyde Drexler2.14
T-Mac2.08
MJ2.08
Paul Pierce2.03
Paul Arizin1.99
Harden1.94
Alex English1.94
Alvin Robertson1.93
Chet Walker1.90
Adrian Dantley1.90
Ed Macauley1.90
Jimmy1.88
Rick Barry1.86
James Worthy1.84
Iggy1.81
Kobe1.80
George Gervin1.77
Sidney Moncrief1.76
Rajon Rondo1.75
Clifford Robinson1.74
Nate McMillan1.73
D Wade1.70
Walt Frazier1.69
Vince1.66
John Havlicek1.65
Oscar1.63
Kyle Lowry1.62
Steph1.61
Chris Paul1.59
Manu1.53
Mullin1.48
Ray Allen1.45
Eddie Jones1.45
Mookie Blaylock1.44
Rod Strickland1.42
Andre Miller1.42
Joe Johnson1.41
David Thompson1.39
Dame1.39
Gary Payton1.39
Kyrie1.32
Jerry West1.29
Jeff Hornacek1.28
Pistol Pete1.25
Klay1.24
Doc Rivers1.22
D Rose1.22
Terry Porter1.21
Bob Cousy1.21
AI1.21
Terrell Brandon1.19
IT1.19
Lenny Wilkens1.19
Sam Jones1.18
Hal Greer1.18
Kevin Johnson1.17
Tim Hardaway1.16
Nash1.13
Chauncey1.10
Reggie1.08
Dave Bing1.06
Tony Parker1.04
Bill Sharman1.03
Mo Cheeks1.02
Stockton1.02
Mark Price1.00
Earl Monroe0.94
Jason Terry0.90
Tiny Archibald0.74
Rebounding GOAT Points

And then the new overall leaderboard after our first three categories –

PlayerTOTAL GOAT POINTS
Wilt14.31
Larry13.85
Jokic13.59
LeBron13.57
Magic13.33
George Mikan13.15
Chuck13.07
KAT12.97
Russ12.89
Harden12.79
MJ12.76
Steph12.61
KD12.60
Giannis12.56
Bob Pettit 12.55
Karl Malone12.54
Chris Paul12.47
K Love12.28
AD12.25
Shaq12.24
Oscar12.13
David Robinson12.08
Dame11.98
Bill Russell11.98
CWebb11.95
Tim Duncan11.89
KG11.88
Kobe11.88
Elgin Baylor11.87
Dirk11.78
Blake11.74
Kareem11.72
Dr J11.71
Rick Barry11.67
Clyde Drexler11.66
Hakeem11.65
Stockton11.64
AI11.61
Kidd11.59
Nash11.57
Tim Hardaway11.53
Walt Bellamy11.52
Pau11.51
Kyrie11.49
T-Mac11.48
Billy Cunningham11.47
Jerry Lucas11.46
Dwight11.44
Jerry West11.37
Artis Gilmore11.36
Dominique11.36
Dolph Schayes11.35
Kevin Johnson11.31
Kawhi11.30
Jack Sikma11.29
Moses11.26
D Wade11.22
Bob Lanier11.19
Paul George11.16
Bosh11.11
Paul Pierce11.11
Yao11.08
Dan Issel11.06
IT11.05
Wes Unseld11.02
Mark Price11.01
Dave Cowens10.97
Melo10.97
Ewing10.96
Willis Reed10.93
Gobert10.92
Horford10.91
Nate Thurmond10.91
Pippen10.88
LaMarcus Aldridge10.84
Bill Laimbeer10.82
Kyle Lowry10.82
Elvin Hayes10.80
Gary Payton10.77
Paul Arizin10.77
Ray Allen10.74
Bob McAdoo10.72
Jimmy10.71
Shawn Marion10.68
Dennis Rodman10.67
Chauncey10.67
George Gervin10.67
Fat Lever10.66
Pistol Pete10.65
Detlef Schrempf10.62
Grant Hill10.61
Ed Macauley10.59
Alonzo Mourning10.54
Marc Gasol10.50
Bob Cousy10.50
Bill Walton10.49
Reggie10.48
Adrian Dantley10.43
Mookie Blaylock10.40
Mullin10.38
McHale10.37
Jeff Hornacek10.36
Marques Johnson10.35
Bailey Howell10.30
Terrell Brandon10.30
Alex English10.30
Terry Porter10.29
Vince10.28
Larry Nance10.25
Rod Strickland10.25
Millsap10.25
David Thompson10.24
Vlade Divac10.23
John Havlicek10.21
D Rose10.18
Elton Brand10.17
Manu10.17
Dave DeBusschere10.15
Rajon Rondo10.13
Dray10.12
Sheed Wallace10.06
Sidney Moncrief10.00
Tony Parker9.98
Tiny Archibald9.98
Dave Bing9.95
Buck Williams9.94
Andre Miller9.91
Klay9.91
Lenny Wilkens9.88
Zelmo Beaty9.87
Alvin Robertson9.85
Eddie Jones9.84
Sam Perkins9.79
Joe Johnson9.79
Robert Parish9.78
Chet Walker9.74
Otis Thorpe9.67
James Worthy9.67
Doc Rivers9.64
Walt Frazier9.63
AK479.60
Bill Sharman9.57
Iggy9.54
Horace Grant9.51
Dikembe9.51
Jason Terry9.40
Hal Greer9.39
AC Green9.34
Mo Cheeks9.34
Nate McMillan9.34
Clifford Robinson9.32
Tyson Chandler9.31
Sam Jones9.13
Bobby Jones8.91
Earl Monroe8.26
Tree Rollins7.77
Mark Eaton7.51
Cumulative GOAT leaderboard

With rebounding, a lot of the expected names that were a little behind early have jumped back into the fold. Some big names outside of the top 50 still – Moses Malone (56), Dwyane Wade (57), Scottie Pippen (75), Reggie Miller (97), Vince Carter (108), John Havlicek (114), Klay Thompson (128). Up next, we have steals and blocks. I will do them as their two separate categories but will wait until we’re through both to do another cumulative leaderboard. With that, let’s get to it.

Steals (2)

We’ll go with 2 points for steals. There are few statistics to look at here, which plays a role. We only have steals per game and per 36 and then steal percentage as cross-era, useable stats. But the main reason that steals are only getting two points rather than four or five is their diminished volume. There just aren’t too many possessions that end in a steal, which devalues the importance of a skill for stealing the basketball versus scoring, passing, or rebounding it. The basic idea – I can be two times better than everyone else at something, but the difference between 2 steals and 1 is much smaller in terms of ultimate in-game impact than the difference between 10 and 5 rebounds or 30 and 15 points. There is some interesting discussion out there of how exactly to weigh the various stats – some would say, for example, that the ability of a steal to launch an easier fast break possession is worth taking into account in matters of comparative value – but I feel comfortable with the 2:5:10 value ratio that we have going here.

Subcategories:

  • Pure Volume (1.5) – Steals per game (1), Steals per 36 (0.5)
  • Percentages (0.5) – Steal percentage (0.5)

Let’s start with steals per game. I’ll adjust for era like we’ve been doing. The steal is another stat that doesn’t exist until 1974, so we will have to go with the typical “put everyone that played half or more of their career by 1974 in the middle” method. There’s just no way to accurately predict where those guys stand without any numbers to go off of, even if we could sit here and say “this guard probably had a decent amount of steals” or “this center probably didn’t steal the ball very often”.

PlayerSPGMultiplierEA SPGGOAT POINTS
Alvin Robertson2.71.1545259613.121.00
AI2.21.2871245652.830.91
Chris Paul2.11.3159442612.760.89
Mookie Blaylock2.31.1936085322.750.88
MJ2.31.1766823872.710.87
Stockton2.21.1822927432.600.83
Fat Lever2.21.1417588232.510.81
Kidd1.91.2821644442.440.78
Pippen21.1926975292.390.76
Mo Cheeks2.11.1329703862.380.76
Clyde Drexler21.1603270612.320.74
Kawhi1.81.287492772.320.74
Russ1.71.3046348612.220.71
Gary Payton1.81.2310902442.220.71
Steph1.71.3006710512.210.71
Nate McMillan1.91.1625411792.210.71
Dr J21.1043430732.210.71
Paul George1.71.2944769722.200.71
IT1.91.1435239822.170.70
Magic1.91.1416783172.170.70
Eddie Jones1.71.2656321862.150.69
LeBron1.61.3128535262.100.67
Rajon Rondo1.61.3122532772.100.67
Doc Rivers1.81.1553090322.080.67
Walt Frazier1.91.0858336652.060.66
Jimmy1.61.2888690262.060.66
Hakeem1.71.178355422.000.64
D Wade1.51899-121.970.63
Shawn Marion1.51.3086138741.960.63
Harden1.51.3006710511.950.63
Larry1.71.1350369931.930.62
Terrell Brandon1.61.2000947491.920.62
Tim Hardaway1.61.1978625341.920.61
Mullin1.61.1735288071.880.60
Iggy1.41.316169581.840.59
AK471.41.3153876191.840.59
AD1.41.28918451.800.58
Dray1.41.28918451.800.58
Kobe1.41.2885756341.800.58
Rod Strickland1.51.2018324771.800.58
CWebb1.41.2554140111.760.56
Kevin Johnson1.51.1716205651.760.56
Chuck1.51.1669960011.750.56
Kyle Lowry1.31.3122532771.710.55
Manu1.31.3116784521.710.55
Paul Pierce1.31.2984914981.690.54
David Robinson1.41.1978625341.680.54
Kyrie1.31.2888690261.680.54
KG1.31.2861434611.670.54
Karl Malone1.41.1869484631.660.53
Bobby Jones1.51.0954111961.640.53
Jeff Hornacek1.41.1701592961.640.53
Millsap1.21.3122532771.570.50
Andre Miller1.21.3062972211.570.50
T-Mac1.21.29695371.560.50
Jokic1.21.2930265221.550.50
Giannis1.21.2914015811.550.50
Grant Hill1.21.2821644441.540.49
Dominique1.31.1585786411.510.48
Wilt#DIV/0!1.50.48
Oscar#DIV/0!1.50.48
Bill Russell#DIV/0!1.50.48
Jerry West#DIV/0!1.50.48
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!1.50.48
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!1.50.48
Rick Barry#DIV/0!1.50.48
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!1.50.48
John Havlicek#DIV/0!1.50.48
Chet Walker#DIV/0!1.50.48
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!1.50.48
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!1.50.48
George Mikan#DIV/0!1.50.48
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!1.50.48
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!1.50.48
Hal Greer#DIV/0!1.50.48
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!1.50.48
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!1.50.48
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!1.50.48
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!1.50.48
Willis Reed#DIV/0!1.50.48
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!1.50.48
Pistol Pete#DIV/0!1.50.48
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!1.50.48
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!1.50.48
Sam Jones#DIV/0!1.50.48
Earl Monroe#DIV/0!1.50.48
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!1.50.48
Tiny Archibald#DIV/0!1.50.48
Dave Bing#DIV/0!1.50.48
Marques Johnson1.31.1154993571.450.46
KD1.11.3080701621.440.46
Jason Terry1.11.3041305961.430.46
Ray Allen1.11.2898093131.420.45
Terry Porter1.21899-121.410.45
Mark Price1.21.1625411791.400.45
Sidney Moncrief1.21.1336931771.360.44
Vlade Divac1.11.2089525021.330.43
George Gervin1.21.1007415571.320.42
Reggie1.11.1997698891.320.42
Melo11.3128535261.310.42
Vince11.2982870871.300.42
Chauncey11.2946617981.290.41
Dame11.28918451.290.41
Sheed Wallace11.2871307411.290.41
James Worthy1.11.1417588231.260.40
Clifford Robinson11.2274022241.230.39
Bob Lanier1.11899-121.210.39
Dave Cowens1.11.08914941.200.38
Wes Unseld1.11899-121.200.38
Horace Grant11899-121.190.38
Dwight0.91.316169581.180.38
Ewing11.1791583341.180.38
Elton Brand0.91899-121.180.38
Marc Gasol0.91.3047889591.170.38
Klay0.91.2888690261.160.37
Jack Sikma11899-121.120.36
Adrian Dantley11.118444781.120.36
Bob McAdoo11.1101779111.110.36
Elvin Hayes11.1038733611.100.35
Dan Issel11.098720021.100.35
David Thompson11.0852573761.090.35
Bosh0.81.3201740081.060.34
Sam Perkins0.91.1730098111.060.34
Tony Parker0.81899-121.050.34
Horford0.81.3080701621.050.34
Joe Johnson0.81.307933921.050.34
D Rose0.81.3046348611.040.33
Dirk0.81.2980802061.040.33
Blake0.81.2944769721.040.33
KAT0.81.2930265221.030.33
Larry Nance0.91.1435239821.030.33
Alex English0.91.118444781.010.32
Kareem0.91.1147558511.000.32
Detlef Schrempf0.81.1735288070.940.30
AC Green0.81.1735288070.940.30
Buck Williams0.81.1577630210.930.30
LaMarcus Aldridge0.71899-120.920.29
K Love0.71.3046348610.910.29
Robert Parish0.81.1347116660.910.29
Tim Duncan0.71.2928524010.900.29
Gobert0.71.2914015810.900.29
Nash0.71.2898093130.900.29
Moses0.81.1254804170.900.29
Bill Walton0.81.1111957390.890.28
Otis Thorpe0.71.1730098110.820.26
Dennis Rodman0.71.1701592960.820.26
Bill Laimbeer0.71.1404151260.800.26
Shaq0.61.2668264060.760.24
Artis Gilmore0.61.1083672610.670.21
Pau0.51.3088176430.650.21
Tyson Chandler0.51.3084920610.650.21
Alonzo Mourning0.51.2488983090.620.20
Yao0.41.3355358070.530.17
Dikembe0.41.2494277850.500.16
Mark Eaton0.41.1444314850.460.15
McHale0.41.1425732470.460.15
Tree Rollins0.41.1294964680.450.14
SPG

We can then do the same for steals per 36 with 0.5 goat points up for grabs.

PlayerSP36MultiplierEA SP36GOAT POINTS
Alvin Robertson3.11.1545259613.580.50
Nate McMillan2.71.1625411793.140.44
Stockton2.51.1822927432.960.41
Chris Paul2.21.3159442612.900.40
Mookie Blaylock2.41.1936085322.860.40
Fat Lever2.51.1417588232.850.40
Doc Rivers2.41.1553090322.770.39
Mo Cheeks2.41.1329703862.720.38
MJ2.21.1766823872.590.36
Kawhi21.287492772.570.36
Rajon Rondo1.91.3122532772.490.35
Manu1.91.3116784522.490.35
AI1.91.2871245652.450.34
Clyde Drexler2.11.1603270612.440.34
Kidd1.91.2821644442.440.34
Pippen21.1926975292.390.33
Gary Payton1.91.2310902442.340.33
Paul George1.81.2944769722.330.33
Dray1.81.28918452.320.32
Jimmy1.81.2888690262.320.32
Terrell Brandon1.91.2000947492.280.32
Eddie Jones1.81.2656321862.280.32
AK471.71.3153876192.240.31
Russ1.71.3046348612.220.31
Steph1.71.3006710512.210.31
Dr J21.1043430732.210.31
IT1.91.1435239822.170.30
Magic1.91.1416783172.170.30
Hakeem1.81.178355422.120.30
Iggy1.61.316169582.110.29
D Wade1.61899-122.100.29
Millsap1.61.3122532772.100.29
Shawn Marion1.61.3086138742.090.29
Bobby Jones1.91.0954111962.080.29
Harden1.61.3006710512.080.29
Rod Strickland1.71.2018324772.040.29
Tim Hardaway1.71.1978625342.040.28
Mullin1.71.1735288071.990.28
LeBron1.51.3128535261.970.28
Kyle Lowry1.51.3122532771.970.27
Walt Frazier1.81.0858336651.950.27
Terry Porter1.61899-121.890.26
Kevin Johnson1.61.1716205651.870.26
Jeff Hornacek1.61.1701592961.870.26
Andre Miller1.41.3062972211.830.26
Jason Terry1.41.3041305961.830.25
Paul Pierce1.41.2984914981.820.25
Larry1.61.1350369931.820.25
Jokic1.41.2930265221.810.25
AD1.41.28918451.800.25
Kyrie1.41.2888690261.800.25
Kobe1.41.2885756341.800.25
David Robinson1.51.1978625341.800.25
CWebb1.41.2554140111.760.25
Chuck1.51.1669960011.750.24
Vlade Divac1.41.2089525021.690.24
T-Mac1.31.29695371.690.24
Giannis1.31.2914015811.680.23
KG1.31.2861434611.670.23
Grant Hill1.31.2821644441.670.23
Karl Malone1.41.1869484631.660.23
Wilt#DIV/0!1.640.23
Oscar#DIV/0!1.640.23
Bill Russell#DIV/0!1.640.23
Jerry West#DIV/0!1.640.23
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!1.640.23
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!1.640.23
Rick Barry#DIV/0!1.640.23
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!1.640.23
John Havlicek#DIV/0!1.640.23
Chet Walker#DIV/0!1.640.23
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!1.640.23
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!1.640.23
George Mikan#DIV/0!1.640.23
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!1.640.23
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!1.640.23
Hal Greer#DIV/0!1.640.23
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!1.640.23
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!1.640.23
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!1.640.23
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!1.640.23
Willis Reed#DIV/0!1.640.23
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!1.640.23
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!1.640.23
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!1.640.23
Sam Jones#DIV/0!1.640.23
Earl Monroe#DIV/0!1.640.23
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!1.640.23
Tiny Archibald#DIV/0!1.640.23
Dave Bing#DIV/0!1.640.23
Mark Price1.41.1625411791.630.23
Sidney Moncrief1.41.1336931771.590.22
Vince1.21.2982870871.560.22
Dominique1.31.1585786411.510.21
Clifford Robinson1.21.2274022241.470.21
Marques Johnson1.31.1154993571.450.20
KD1.11.3080701621.440.20
George Gervin1.31.1053081761.440.20
Chauncey1.11.2946617981.420.20
Ray Allen1.11.2898093131.420.20
Sheed Wallace1.11.2871307411.420.20
Pistol Pete1.31.0858336651.410.20
James Worthy1.21.1417588231.370.19
Bob Lanier1.21899-121.320.19
Reggie1.11.1997698891.320.18
Dwight11.316169581.320.18
Melo11.3128535261.310.18
Horace Grant1.11899-121.310.18
Tony Parker11899-121.310.18
Elton Brand11899-121.310.18
Marc Gasol11.3047889591.300.18
Sam Perkins1.11.1730098111.290.18
Dame11.28918451.290.18
Klay11.2888690261.290.18
Jack Sikma1.11899-121.240.17
Dan Issel1.11.098720021.210.17
Dave Cowens1.11.08914941.200.17
Wes Unseld1.11899-121.200.17
David Thompson1.11.0852573761.190.17
Ewing11.1791583341.180.16
Horford0.91.3080701621.180.16
Joe Johnson0.91.307933921.180.16
D Rose0.91.3046348611.170.16
AC Green11.1735288071.170.16
Blake0.91.2944769721.170.16
KAT0.91.2930265221.160.16
Nash0.91.2898093131.160.16
Larry Nance11.1435239821.140.16
Robert Parish11.1347116661.130.16
Adrian Dantley11.118444781.120.16
Alex English11.118444781.120.16
Kareem11.1147558511.110.16
Bill Walton11.1111957391.110.16
Bob McAdoo11.1101779111.110.16
Elvin Hayes11.1038733611.100.15
Detlef Schrempf0.91.1735288071.060.15
Bosh0.81.3201740081.060.15
LaMarcus Aldridge0.81899-121.050.15
K Love0.81.3046348611.040.15
Buck Williams0.91.1577630211.040.15
Dirk0.81.2980802061.040.15
Tim Duncan0.81.2928524011.030.14
Gobert0.81.2914015811.030.14
Moses0.91.1254804171.010.14
Otis Thorpe0.81.1730098110.940.13
Dennis Rodman0.81.1701592960.940.13
Tyson Chandler0.71.3084920610.920.13
Bill Laimbeer0.81.1404151260.910.13
Tree Rollins0.81.1294964680.900.13
Shaq0.61.2668264060.760.11
Alonzo Mourning0.61.2488983090.750.10
Artis Gilmore0.61.1083672610.670.09
Pau0.51.3088176430.650.09
Dikembe0.51.2494277850.620.09
Mark Eaton0.51.1444314850.570.08
Yao0.41.3355358070.530.07
McHale0.41.1425732470.460.06
SP36

We can then finish with steal percentage. This is again an estimate, and it attempts to measure the percentage of defensive possessions that any given player from the defensive team grabs a steal on (while they are on the floor and not across the game as a whole). The numbers are obviously going to be pretty low here since there aren’t that many possessions that end in a steal during a game, never mind a steal by one specific player. There are 0.5 goat points on the line here too. I am going to adjust for era here since this is steals out of total possessions rather than steals out of total steals. So we’ll adjust using league average steals year by year, and we can figure that using just steals is a pretty decent way to adjust for those differences in era. The cutoff year remains the same at 1974.

PlayerSTL %MultiplierEA STL %GOAT POINTS
Alvin Robertson4.11.1545259614.730.50
Nate McMillan3.71.1625411794.300.45
Chris Paul3.21.3159442614.210.45
Mookie Blaylock3.51.1936085324.180.44
Stockton3.51.1822927434.140.44
Doc Rivers3.31.1553090323.810.40
Fat Lever3.21.1417588233.650.39
MJ3.11.1766823873.650.39
Mo Cheeks3.21.1329703863.630.38
Kawhi2.81.287492773.600.38
Kidd2.81.2821644443.590.38
Rajon Rondo2.71.3122532773.540.37
Manu2.71.3116784523.540.37
Terrell Brandon2.91.2000947493.480.37
AI2.71.2871245653.480.37
Pippen2.91.1926975293.460.37
Paul George2.61.2944769723.370.36
Gary Payton2.71.2310902443.320.35
Eddie Jones2.61.2656321863.290.35
Clyde Drexler2.81.1603270613.250.34
Jimmy2.51.2888690263.220.34
AK472.41.3153876193.160.33
D Wade2.41899-123.160.33
Russ2.41.3046348613.130.33
Steph2.41.3006710513.120.33
Dray2.41.28918453.090.33
Iggy2.31.316169583.030.32
Shawn Marion2.31.3086138743.010.32
Millsap2.21.3122532772.890.31
Rod Strickland2.41.2018324772.880.30
Harden2.21.3006710512.860.30
IT2.51.1435239822.860.30
Magic2.51.1416783172.850.30
Hakeem2.41.178355422.830.30
Dr J2.51.1043430732.760.29
LeBron2.11.3128535262.760.29
Kyle Lowry2.11.3122532772.760.29
Tim Hardaway2.31.1978625342.760.29
Kobe2.11.2885756342.710.29
Mullin2.31.1735288072.700.29
Jeff Hornacek2.31.1701592962.690.28
Bobby Jones2.41.0954111962.630.28
Andre Miller21.3062972212.610.28
Jason Terry21.3041305962.610.28
Paul Pierce21.2984914982.600.27
Terry Porter2.21899-122.590.27
T-Mac21.29695372.590.27
AD21.28918452.580.27
Kyrie21.2888690262.580.27
David Robinson2.11.1978625342.520.27
CWebb21.2554140112.510.27
Walt Frazier2.31.0858336652.500.26
Larry2.21.1350369932.500.26
Kevin Johnson2.11.1716205652.460.26
Jokic1.91.2930265222.460.26
Chuck2.11.1669960012.450.26
KG1.91.2861434612.440.26
Grant Hill1.91.2821644442.440.26
Mark Price21.1625411792.330.25
Giannis1.81.2914015812.320.25
Vlade Divac1.91.2089525022.300.24
Wilt#DIV/0!2.260.24
Oscar#DIV/0!2.260.24
Bill Russell#DIV/0!2.260.24
Jerry West#DIV/0!2.260.24
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!2.260.24
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!2.260.24
Rick Barry#DIV/0!2.260.24
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!2.260.24
John Havlicek#DIV/0!2.260.24
Chet Walker#DIV/0!2.260.24
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!2.260.24
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!2.260.24
George Mikan#DIV/0!2.260.24
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!2.260.24
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!2.260.24
Hal Greer#DIV/0!2.260.24
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!2.260.24
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!2.260.24
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!2.260.24
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!2.260.24
Willis Reed#DIV/0!2.260.24
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!2.260.24
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!2.260.24
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!2.260.24
Sam Jones#DIV/0!2.260.24
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!2.260.24
Dave Bing#DIV/0!2.260.24
Karl Malone1.91.1869484632.260.24
Vince1.71.2982870872.210.23
Chauncey1.71.2946617982.200.23
Ray Allen1.71.2898093132.190.23
Sidney Moncrief1.91.1336931772.150.23
Clifford Robinson1.71.2274022242.090.22
Dominique1.81.1585786412.090.22
Sheed Wallace1.61.2871307412.060.22
Marques Johnson1.81.1154993572.010.21
KD1.51.3080701621.960.21
James Worthy1.71.1417588231.940.21
Reggie1.61.1997698891.920.20
George Gervin1.71.1007415571.870.20
Dwight1.41.316169581.840.19
Melo1.41.3128535261.840.19
Tony Parker1.41899-121.830.19
Elton Brand1.41899-121.830.19
Marc Gasol1.41.3047889591.830.19
Horace Grant1.51899-121.790.19
Tiny Archibald1.61.1038733611.770.19
Sam Perkins1.51.1730098111.760.19
Pistol Pete1.61.0858336651.740.18
Horford1.31.3080701621.700.18
Joe Johnson1.31.307933921.700.18
Jack Sikma1.51899-121.680.18
Blake1.31.2944769721.680.18
Dame1.31.28918451.680.18
Klay1.31.2888690261.680.18
Bob Lanier1.51899-121.660.18
Ewing1.41.1791583341.650.17
AC Green1.41.1735288071.640.17
Earl Monroe1.51.0858336651.630.17
Larry Nance1.41.1435239821.600.17
Bosh1.21.3201740081.580.17
D Rose1.21.3046348611.570.17
Dirk1.21.2980802061.560.16
KAT1.21.2930265221.550.16
Nash1.21.2898093131.550.16
Detlef Schrempf1.31.1735288071.530.16
Dave Cowens1.41.08914941.520.16
Wes Unseld1.41899-121.520.16
David Thompson1.41.0852573761.520.16
Robert Parish1.31.1347116661.480.16
Adrian Dantley1.31.118444781.450.15
Alex English1.31.118444781.450.15
Bill Walton1.31.1111957391.440.15
LaMarcus Aldridge1.11899-121.440.15
Bob McAdoo1.31.1101779111.440.15
K Love1.11.3046348611.440.15
Dan Issel1.31.098720021.430.15
Tim Duncan1.11.2928524011.420.15
Gobert1.11.2914015811.420.15
Buck Williams1.21.1577630211.390.15
Moses1.21.1254804171.350.14
Kareem1.21.1147558511.340.14
Elvin Hayes1.21.1038733611.320.14
Tyson Chandler11.3084920611.310.14
Otis Thorpe1.11.1730098111.290.14
Dennis Rodman1.11.1701592961.290.14
Bill Laimbeer11.1404151261.140.12
Shaq0.91.2668264061.140.12
Tree Rollins11.1294964681.130.12
Pau0.81.3088176431.050.11
Alonzo Mourning0.81.2488983091.000.11
Artis Gilmore0.81.1083672610.890.09
Dikembe0.71.2494277850.870.09
Yao0.61.3355358070.800.08
Mark Eaton0.71.1444314850.800.08
McHale0.61.1425732470.690.07
STL %

And that is it for steals, so we can look at the total steals leaderboard before moving on to blocks.

PlayerSTL GOAT POINTS
Alvin Robertson2.00
Chris Paul1.74
Mookie Blaylock1.72
Stockton1.68
AI1.62
MJ1.61
Nate McMillan1.60
Fat Lever1.59
Mo Cheeks1.53
Kidd1.50
Kawhi1.48
Pippen1.46
Doc Rivers1.46
Clyde Drexler1.43
Rajon Rondo1.40
Gary Payton1.39
Paul George1.39
Eddie Jones1.36
Russ1.35
Steph1.35
Jimmy1.33
Dr J1.31
IT1.30
Terrell Brandon1.30
Magic1.30
Manu1.27
D Wade1.26
LeBron1.24
Shawn Marion1.24
Hakeem1.24
AK471.24
Dray1.23
Harden1.22
Iggy1.20
Walt Frazier1.20
Tim Hardaway1.19
Rod Strickland1.17
Mullin1.17
Larry1.14
Kobe1.12
Kyle Lowry1.11
Millsap1.10
AD1.10
Bobby Jones1.10
Kevin Johnson1.09
CWebb1.07
Jeff Hornacek1.07
Paul Pierce1.07
Chuck1.06
Kyrie1.06
David Robinson1.05
Andre Miller1.03
KG1.03
Jokic1.01
T-Mac1.01
Karl Malone1.00
Terry Porter0.99
Jason Terry0.99
Grant Hill0.98
Giannis0.98
Bailey Howell0.95
Bill Russell0.95
Bill Sharman0.95
Billy Cunningham0.95
Bob Cousy0.95
Bob Pettit0.95
Chet Walker0.95
Dave Bing0.95
Dave DeBusschere0.95
Dolph Schayes0.95
Ed Macauley0.95
Elgin Baylor0.95
George Mikan0.95
Hal Greer0.95
Jerry Lucas0.95
Jerry West0.95
John Havlicek0.95
Lenny Wilkens0.95
Nate Thurmond0.95
Oscar0.95
Paul Arizin0.95
Rick Barry0.95
Sam Jones0.95
Walt Bellamy0.95
Willis Reed0.95
Wilt0.95
Zelmo Beaty0.95
Mark Price0.92
Dominique0.91
Vlade Divac0.91
Tiny Archibald0.90
Sidney Moncrief0.89
Ray Allen0.88
Earl Monroe0.88
Marques Johnson0.88
KD0.87
Vince0.87
Pistol Pete0.86
Chauncey0.85
Sheed Wallace0.83
George Gervin0.82
Clifford Robinson0.82
Reggie0.81
James Worthy0.80
Melo0.80
Dame0.77
Dwight0.76
Horace Grant0.75
Elton Brand0.75
Marc Gasol0.75
Bob Lanier0.75
Klay0.73
Ewing0.72
Dave Cowens0.71
Tony Parker0.71
Wes Unseld0.71
Jack Sikma0.71
Sam Perkins0.70
Horford0.68
Joe Johnson0.68
David Thompson0.68
Blake0.67
Dan Issel0.67
Adrian Dantley0.67
D Rose0.66
Bob McAdoo0.66
Larry Nance0.66
KAT0.66
Bosh0.65
Elvin Hayes0.65
Dirk0.64
AC Green0.64
Alex English0.63
Kareem0.62
Nash0.62
Detlef Schrempf0.61
Robert Parish0.61
LaMarcus Aldridge0.59
Bill Walton0.59
K Love0.59
Buck Williams0.59
Tim Duncan0.58
Gobert0.58
Moses0.57
Otis Thorpe0.53
Dennis Rodman0.53
Bill Laimbeer0.50
Tyson Chandler0.48
Shaq0.47
Pau0.41
Alonzo Mourning0.41
Artis Gilmore0.40
Tree Rollins0.39
Dikembe0.34
Yao0.33
Mark Eaton0.31
McHale0.28
Steals Goat Points leaderboard
Blocks (2)

Insert blocks for steals in the little steals intro above, and we’re just about set. We only have blocks per game and per 36 and then block percentage here as well. We also have the same idea of blocks being diminished in volume versus other counting stats – and an argument from some that the offensive opportunities a block can unleash might make it more valuable than, say, your average singular defensive rebound.

Subcategories:

  • Pure Volume (1.5) – Blocks per game (1), Blocks per 36 (0.5)
  • Percentages (0.5) – Block percentage (0.5)

Let’s start with blocks per game. We have the same 1974 issue with blocks, so we’ll be putting everyone that played half or less of their career before 1974 in the middle. Again, it’s the best we can do without any sort of numbers to base a placement on. Could we theoretically say Wilt Chamberlain blocked a lot of shots and Bob Cousy didn’t? Yes, and that would probably be right. But we can’t be fully confident in even that extreme example, never mind the less predictable comparisons. I’ll adjust for era here as usual.

Mark Eaton3.51.1044667673.871.00
Hakeem3.11.1295462043.500.90
David Robinson31.1433492263.430.89
Alonzo Mourning2.81.1761426853.290.85
Dikembe2.81.1733431613.290.85
Kareem2.61.1478355322.980.77
AD2.31.2149316792.790.72
Shaq2.31.1818743632.720.70
Ewing2.41.1305073012.710.70
Gobert2.21.2213837832.690.69
Artis Gilmore2.41.1144725342.670.69
Tim Duncan2.21.1931070352.620.68
Bill Walton2.21.146480712.520.65
Tree Rollins2.21.1103793462.440.63
Larry Nance2.21.1058724932.430.63
Elvin Hayes21.1691296372.340.60
Yao1.91.2190579232.320.60
Dwight1.81.218935452.190.57
AK471.81.2074534282.170.56
Elton Brand1.71899-122.030.53
Pau1.61.2082685451.930.50
Dr J1.71.1160353871.900.49
McHale1.71.1042257361.880.49
Bob Lanier1.51899-121.750.45
Bob McAdoo1.51.1605262391.740.45
KAT1.41.2154240331.700.44
Marc Gasol1.41.2067838711.690.44
Robert Parish1.51.119268351.680.43
KG1.41.1919037171.670.43
CWebb1.41.1789111721.650.43
Vlade Divac1.41.1479895961.610.42
Giannis1.31.2213837831.590.41
Bobby Jones1.41.1102167891.550.40
Sheed Wallace1.31.1869717911.540.40
Horford1.21.2132552411.460.38
Tyson Chandler1.21.2080481811.450.37
Moses1.31.1128258411.450.37
LaMarcus Aldridge1.11899-121.340.35
KD1.11.2132552411.330.34
Shawn Marion1.11.1970106831.320.34
Millsap11.2175898321.220.31
Dray11.2149316791.210.31
Bosh11.2130563551.210.31
Clifford Robinson11.1614311881.160.30
Horace Grant11899-121.140.29
George Gervin11.119366781.120.29
Dave Cowens0.91.192677291.070.28
T-Mac0.91.1898456741.070.28
Wilt#DIV/0!1.060.27
Oscar#DIV/0!1.060.27
Bill Russell#DIV/0!1.060.27
Jerry West#DIV/0!1.060.27
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!1.060.27
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!1.060.27
Rick Barry#DIV/0!1.060.27
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!1.060.27
John Havlicek#DIV/0!1.060.27
Chet Walker#DIV/0!1.060.27
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!1.060.27
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!1.060.27
George Mikan#DIV/0!1.060.27
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!1.060.27
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!1.060.27
Hal Greer#DIV/0!1.060.27
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!1.060.27
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!1.060.27
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!1.060.27
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!1.060.27
Willis Reed#DIV/0!1.060.27
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!1.060.27
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!1.060.27
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!1.060.27
Sam Jones#DIV/0!1.060.27
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!1.060.27
Dave Bing#DIV/0!1.060.27
Jack Sikma0.91899-121.000.26
Bill Laimbeer0.91.1063964251.000.26
David Thompson0.91.0991227490.990.26
LeBron0.81.2156684650.970.25
D Wade0.81899-120.970.25
Dirk0.81.1988884160.960.25
Pippen0.81.1393854140.910.24
Karl Malone0.81.1344993090.910.23
Chuck0.81.1302505460.900.23
MJ0.81.1299595570.900.23
Buck Williams0.81.1193391130.900.23
Marques Johnson0.81.1034384370.880.23
Larry0.81.102578980.880.23
Jokic0.71.2154240330.850.22
Sam Perkins0.71.1292480160.790.20
Clyde Drexler0.71.1255067260.790.20
Alex English0.71.111141170.780.20
James Worthy0.71.1069791510.770.20
Kawhi0.61.2050860390.720.19
Wes Unseld0.61899-120.720.19
Vince0.61.1991244720.720.19
Paul Pierce0.61.1982889510.720.19
Grant Hill0.61.184216190.710.18
Eddie Jones0.61.1820751570.710.18
Dennis Rodman0.61.132685260.680.18
Mullin0.61.1302505460.680.18
Dominique0.61.1244807250.670.17
Iggy0.51.218935450.610.16
Melo0.51.2156684650.610.16
Jimmy0.51.2096526850.600.16
Klay0.51.2096526850.600.16
Blake0.51.2091884310.600.16
Harden0.51.20879560.600.16
Kobe0.51.1936557650.600.15
Dan Issel0.51.1198800490.560.14
K Love0.41.2102506760.480.13
Kyrie0.41.2096526850.480.13
Paul George0.41.2091884310.480.12
AC Green0.41.1302505460.450.12
Otis Thorpe0.41.1292480160.450.12
Nate McMillan0.41.1285815210.450.12
Alvin Robertson0.41.1173707480.450.12
Doc Rivers0.41.1170505010.450.12
Magic0.41.1090509390.440.11
Kyle Lowry0.31.2175898320.370.09
Dame0.31.2149316790.360.09
Manu0.31.2146386520.360.09
Pistol Pete0.31.2125495560.360.09
Earl Monroe0.31.2125495560.360.09
Russ0.31.2102506760.360.09
D Rose0.31.2102506760.360.09
Kidd0.31.184216190.360.09
Terrell Brandon0.31.1415289880.340.09
Mookie Blaylock0.31.1405299350.340.09
Detlef Schrempf0.31.1302505460.340.09
Fat Lever0.31.1069791510.330.09
IT0.31.1058724930.330.09
Sidney Moncrief0.31.1050666220.330.09
Mo Cheeks0.31.1040489810.330.09
Walt Frazier0.21.2125495560.240.06
Joe Johnson0.21.2101102960.240.06
Steph0.21.20879560.240.06
Jason Terry0.21.2008766710.240.06
Andre Miller0.21.1960100540.240.06
Ray Allen0.21.1924415910.240.06
AI0.21.1922015970.240.06
Chauncey0.21.1917568830.240.06
Gary Payton0.21.161699920.230.06
Rod Strickland0.21.1459435930.230.06
Reggie0.21.1429796490.230.06
Kevin Johnson0.21.1372974130.230.06
Jeff Hornacek0.21.132685260.230.06
Stockton0.21.1322016670.230.06
Adrian Dantley0.21.111141170.220.06
Chris Paul0.11.2198092040.120.03
Rajon Rondo0.11.2175898320.120.03
Tony Parker0.11899-120.120.03
Nash0.11.1924415910.120.03
Tiny Archibald0.11.1691296370.120.03
Tim Hardaway0.11.1433492260.110.03
Terry Porter0.11899-120.110.03
Mark Price0.11.1285815210.110.03
BPG

Next we can do the same for blocks per 36. There are 0.5 goat points on the line here.

PlayerBP36MultiplierEA BP36GOAT POINTS
Mark Eaton4.41.1044667674.860.50
Tree Rollins3.81.1103793464.220.43
Alonzo Mourning3.31.1761426853.880.40
Dikembe3.21.1733431613.750.39
David Robinson3.11.1433492263.540.36
Hakeem3.11.1295462043.500.36
Gobert2.71.2213837833.300.34
Bill Walton2.81.146480713.210.33
Kareem2.61.1478355322.980.31
Ewing2.61.1305073012.940.30
AD2.41.2149316792.920.30
Tim Duncan2.31.1931070352.740.28
Shaq2.31.1818743632.720.28
Artis Gilmore2.41.1144725342.670.28
AK472.21.2074534282.660.27
Larry Nance2.41.1058724932.650.27
Yao2.11.2190579232.560.26
Dwight21.218935452.440.25
Elvin Hayes21.1691296372.340.24
Elton Brand1.91899-122.270.23
McHale21.1042257362.210.23
Robert Parish1.91.119268352.130.22
Pau1.71.2082685452.050.21
Bobby Jones1.81.1102167892.000.21
Bob Lanier1.71899-121.990.20
Vlade Divac1.71.1479895961.950.20
Marc Gasol1.61.2067838711.930.20
Dr J1.71.1160353871.900.20
Bob McAdoo1.61.1605262391.860.19
Tyson Chandler1.51.2080481811.810.19
KG1.51.1919037171.790.18
Sheed Wallace1.51.1869717911.780.18
Giannis1.41.2213837831.710.18
KAT1.41.2154240331.700.18
CWebb1.41.1789111721.650.17
Dray1.31.2149316791.580.16
Horford1.31.2132552411.580.16
Moses1.41.1128258411.560.16
LaMarcus Aldridge1.21899-121.460.15
Millsap1.21.2175898321.460.15
Clifford Robinson1.21.1614311881.390.14
KD1.11.2132552411.330.14
Bosh1.11.2130563551.330.14
Shawn Marion1.11.1970106831.320.14
Horace Grant1.11899-121.250.13
George Gervin1.11.119366781.230.13
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!1.180.12
Bill Russell#DIV/0!1.180.12
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!1.180.12
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!1.180.12
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!1.180.12
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!1.180.12
Chet Walker#DIV/0!1.180.12
Dave Bing#DIV/0!1.180.12
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!1.180.12
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!1.180.12
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!1.180.12
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!1.180.12
George Mikan#DIV/0!1.180.12
Hal Greer#DIV/0!1.180.12
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!1.180.12
Jerry West#DIV/0!1.180.12
John Havlicek#DIV/0!1.180.12
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!1.180.12
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!1.180.12
Oscar#DIV/0!1.180.12
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!1.180.12
Rick Barry#DIV/0!1.180.12
Sam Jones#DIV/0!1.180.12
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!1.180.12
Willis Reed#DIV/0!1.180.12
Wilt#DIV/0!1.180.12
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!1.180.12
Jack Sikma11899-121.110.11
Bill Laimbeer11.1063964251.110.11
D Wade0.91899-121.090.11
Dirk0.91.1988884161.080.11
Dave Cowens0.91.192677291.070.11
T-Mac0.91.1898456741.070.11
Sam Perkins0.91.1292480161.020.10
Buck Williams0.91.1193391131.010.10
David Thompson0.91.0991227490.990.10
Jokic0.81.2154240330.970.10
Pippen0.81.1393854140.910.09
Karl Malone0.81.1344993090.910.09
Chuck0.81.1302505460.900.09
MJ0.81.1299595570.900.09
Alex English0.81.111141170.890.09
Marques Johnson0.81.1034384370.880.09
Larry0.81.102578980.880.09
LeBron0.71.2156684650.850.09
Kawhi0.71.2050860390.840.09
Vince0.71.1991244720.840.09
Dennis Rodman0.71.132685260.790.08
Clyde Drexler0.71.1255067260.790.08
James Worthy0.71.1069791510.770.08
Iggy0.61.218935450.730.08
Klay0.61.2096526850.730.07
Harden0.61.20879560.730.07
Wes Unseld0.61899-120.720.07
Paul Pierce0.61.1982889510.720.07
Grant Hill0.61.184216190.710.07
Eddie Jones0.61.1820751570.710.07
Mullin0.61.1302505460.680.07
Nate McMillan0.61.1285815210.680.07
Dominique0.61.1244807250.670.07
Dan Issel0.61.1198800490.670.07
Melo0.51.2156684650.610.06
K Love0.51.2102506760.610.06
Jimmy0.51.2096526850.600.06
Blake0.51.2091884310.600.06
Paul George0.51.2091884310.600.06
Kobe0.51.1936557650.600.06
AC Green0.51.1302505460.570.06
Otis Thorpe0.51.1292480160.560.06
Alvin Robertson0.51.1173707480.560.06
Doc Rivers0.51.1170505010.560.06
Manu0.41.2146386520.490.05
D Rose0.41.2102506760.480.05
Kyrie0.41.2096526850.480.05
Terrell Brandon0.41.1415289880.460.05
Magic0.41.1090509390.440.05
Sidney Moncrief0.41.1050666220.440.05
Kyle Lowry0.31.2175898320.370.04
Dame0.31.2149316790.360.04
Earl Monroe0.31.2125495560.360.04
Russ0.31.2102506760.360.04
Kidd0.31.184216190.360.04
Mookie Blaylock0.31.1405299350.340.04
Kevin Johnson0.31.1372974130.340.04
Detlef Schrempf0.31.1302505460.340.03
Fat Lever0.31.1069791510.330.03
IT0.31.1058724930.330.03
Mo Cheeks0.31.1040489810.330.03
Chris Paul0.21.2198092040.240.03
Rajon Rondo0.21.2175898320.240.03
Pistol Pete0.21.2125495560.240.02
Walt Frazier0.21.2125495560.240.02
Joe Johnson0.21.2101102960.240.02
Steph0.21.20879560.240.02
Jason Terry0.21.2008766710.240.02
Andre Miller0.21.1960100540.240.02
Ray Allen0.21.1924415910.240.02
AI0.21.1922015970.240.02
Chauncey0.21.1917568830.240.02
Gary Payton0.21.161699920.230.02
Rod Strickland0.21.1459435930.230.02
Tim Hardaway0.21.1433492260.230.02
Reggie0.21.1429796490.230.02
Jeff Hornacek0.21.132685260.230.02
Stockton0.21.1322016670.230.02
Terry Porter0.21899-120.230.02
Adrian Dantley0.21.111141170.220.02
Tony Parker0.11899-120.120.01
Nash0.11.1924415910.120.01
Tiny Archibald0.11.1691296370.120.01
Mark Price0.11.1285815210.110.01
BP36

Last up is block percentage. We have 0.5 goat points on the line here as well. This one is an interesting stat. We’re looking at the proportion of opponent two-point attempts that a given player blocks while they’re in the game. There are questions to be asked, starting with “what about threes?”, but it’s still a decent enough measure of someone’s ability to disrupt the other team’s shooting ability by way of the block. I will be adjusting for era here too since an era-based change in blocks will switch the “average” percentage of opponent shots that are blocked, and using just blocks for that adjustment should still produce a decent adjustment.

PlayerBLK %MultiplierEA BLK %GOAT POINTS
Alonzo Mourning6.61.1761426857.760.50
Mark Eaton6.91.1044667677.620.49
Gobert6.11.2213837837.450.48
Dikembe6.31.1733431617.390.48
Tree Rollins6.21.1103793466.880.44
AD5.61.2149316796.800.44
David Robinson5.71.1433492266.520.42
Hakeem5.41.1295462046.100.39
AK4751.2074534286.040.39
Tim Duncan4.61.1931070355.490.35
Shaq4.61.1818743635.440.35
Ewing4.81.1305073015.430.35
Yao4.41.2190579235.360.35
Dwight4.41.218935455.360.35
Bill Walton4.21.146480714.820.31
Elton Brand3.91899-124.660.30
Marc Gasol3.71.2067838714.470.29
Kareem3.81.1478355324.360.28
Giannis3.51.2213837834.270.28
KAT3.51.2154240334.250.27
Pau3.51.2082685454.230.27
Larry Nance3.81.1058724934.200.27
Artis Gilmore3.71.1144725344.120.27
Tyson Chandler3.31.2080481813.990.26
Vlade Divac3.21.1479895963.670.24
Horford31.2132552413.640.23
KG31.1919037173.580.23
Sheed Wallace31.1869717913.560.23
McHale3.21.1042257363.530.23
Dray2.91.2149316793.520.23
Millsap2.81.2175898323.410.22
Elvin Hayes2.91.1691296373.390.22
Robert Parish31.119268353.360.22
CWebb2.71.1789111723.180.21
LaMarcus Aldridge2.61899-123.170.20
Bobby Jones2.71.1102167893.000.19
Bob Lanier2.51899-122.920.19
Dr J2.61.1160353872.900.19
KD2.31.2132552412.790.18
Bosh2.31.2130563552.790.18
Clifford Robinson2.31.1614311882.670.17
Bob McAdoo2.31.1605262392.670.17
Shawn Marion2.21.1970106832.630.17
Moses2.21.1128258412.450.16
Jokic21.2154240332.430.16
D Wade21899-122.430.16
Horace Grant21899-122.280.15
Dirk1.91.1988884162.280.15
T-Mac1.91.1898456742.260.15
Bailey Howell#DIV/0!2.230.14
Bill Russell#DIV/0!2.230.14
Bill Sharman#DIV/0!2.230.14
Billy Cunningham#DIV/0!2.230.14
Bob Cousy#DIV/0!2.230.14
Bob Pettit#DIV/0!2.230.14
Chet Walker#DIV/0!2.230.14
Dave Bing#DIV/0!2.230.14
Dave DeBusschere#DIV/0!2.230.14
Dolph Schayes#DIV/0!2.230.14
Ed Macauley#DIV/0!2.230.14
Elgin Baylor#DIV/0!2.230.14
George Mikan#DIV/0!2.230.14
Hal Greer#DIV/0!2.230.14
Jerry Lucas#DIV/0!2.230.14
Jerry West#DIV/0!2.230.14
John Havlicek#DIV/0!2.230.14
Lenny Wilkens#DIV/0!2.230.14
Nate Thurmond#DIV/0!2.230.14
Oscar#DIV/0!2.230.14
Paul Arizin#DIV/0!2.230.14
Rick Barry#DIV/0!2.230.14
Sam Jones#DIV/0!2.230.14
Walt Bellamy#DIV/0!2.230.14
Willis Reed#DIV/0!2.230.14
Wilt#DIV/0!2.230.14
Zelmo Beaty#DIV/0!2.230.14
LeBron1.61.2156684651.950.13
Kawhi1.61.2050860391.930.12
Bill Laimbeer1.71.1063964251.880.12
Pippen1.61.1393854141.820.12
Sam Perkins1.61.1292480161.810.12
Vince1.51.1991244721.800.12
George Gervin1.61.119366781.790.12
Buck Williams1.61.1193391131.790.12
Jack Sikma1.61899-121.770.11
Karl Malone1.51.1344993091.700.11
Iggy1.31.218935451.580.10
Chuck1.41.1302505461.580.10
MJ1.41.1299595571.580.10
Klay1.31.2096526851.570.10
Harden1.31.20879561.570.10
Paul Pierce1.31.1982889511.560.10
Dave Cowens1.31.192677291.550.10
Eddie Jones1.31.1820751571.540.10
Melo1.21.2156684651.460.09
Jimmy1.21.2096526851.450.09
Blake1.21.2091884311.450.09
David Thompson1.31.0991227491.430.09
Grant Hill1.21.184216191.420.09
Dennis Rodman1.21.132685261.360.09
Nate McMillan1.21.1285815211.350.09
Clyde Drexler1.21.1255067261.350.09
Alex English1.21.111141171.330.09
K Love1.11.2102506761.330.09
Paul George1.11.2091884311.330.09
James Worthy1.21.1069791511.330.09
Marques Johnson1.21.1034384371.320.09
Larry1.21.102578981.320.09
Mullin1.11.1302505461.240.08
Kyrie11.2096526851.210.08
Kobe11.1936557651.190.08
Dominique11.1244807251.120.07
Manu0.91.2146386521.090.07
D Rose0.91.2102506761.090.07
Wes Unseld0.91899-121.080.07
AC Green0.91.1302505461.020.07
Dan Issel0.91.1198800491.010.06
Doc Rivers0.91.1170505011.010.06
Kyle Lowry0.81.2175898320.970.06
Terrell Brandon0.81.1415289880.910.06
Otis Thorpe0.81.1292480160.900.06
Alvin Robertson0.81.1173707480.890.06
Dame0.71.2149316790.850.05
Russ0.71.2102506760.850.05
Kidd0.71.184216190.830.05
Mookie Blaylock0.61.1405299350.680.04
Detlef Schrempf0.61.1302505460.680.04
Magic0.61.1090509390.670.04
Sidney Moncrief0.61.1050666220.660.04
Earl Monroe0.51.2125495560.610.04
Steph0.51.20879560.600.04
Jason Terry0.51.2008766710.600.04
Jeff Hornacek0.51.132685260.570.04
Stockton0.51.1322016670.570.04
Fat Lever0.51.1069791510.550.04
Mo Cheeks0.51.1040489810.550.04
Chris Paul0.41.2198092040.490.03
Rajon Rondo0.41.2175898320.490.03
Pistol Pete0.41.2125495560.490.03
Joe Johnson0.41.2101102960.480.03
Andre Miller0.41.1960100540.480.03
Ray Allen0.41.1924415910.480.03
Chauncey0.41.1917568830.480.03
Gary Payton0.41.161699920.460.03
Rod Strickland0.41.1459435930.460.03
Reggie0.41.1429796490.460.03
Kevin Johnson0.41.1372974130.450.03
IT0.41.1058724930.440.03
AI0.31.1922015970.360.02
Tim Hardaway0.31.1433492260.340.02
Terry Porter0.31899-120.340.02
Walt Frazier0.21.2125495560.240.02
Tony Parker0.21899-120.240.02
Nash0.21.1924415910.240.02
Tiny Archibald0.21.1691296370.230.02
Mark Price0.21.1285815210.230.01
Adrian Dantley0.21.111141170.220.01
BLK %

And that is all we have for blocks, so we’ll take a look at the overall blocks leaderboard and then the cumulative leaderboard through our first five categories.

PlayerBLK GOAT POINTS
Mark Eaton1.99
Alonzo Mourning1.75
Dikembe1.71
David Robinson1.67
Hakeem1.66
Gobert1.51
Tree Rollins1.51
AD1.46
Kareem1.36
Ewing1.35
Shaq1.33
Tim Duncan1.31
Bill Walton1.29
Artis Gilmore1.23
AK471.22
Yao1.21
Larry Nance1.17
Dwight1.16
Elvin Hayes1.06
Elton Brand1.06
Pau0.98
McHale0.94
Marc Gasol0.92
KAT0.89
Dr J0.87
Robert Parish0.87
Giannis0.86
Vlade Divac0.85
Bob Lanier0.85
KG0.85
Tyson Chandler0.82
Bob McAdoo0.81
Sheed Wallace0.81
CWebb0.80
Bobby Jones0.80
Horford0.77
Dray0.70
LaMarcus Aldridge0.70
Moses0.69
Millsap0.68
KD0.66
Shawn Marion0.65
Bosh0.63
Clifford Robinson0.62
Horace Grant0.57
Bailey Howell0.54
Bill Russell0.54
Bill Sharman0.54
Billy Cunningham0.54
Bob Cousy0.54
Bob Pettit0.54
Chet Walker0.54
Dave Bing0.54
Dave DeBusschere0.54
Dolph Schayes0.54
Ed Macauley0.54
Elgin Baylor0.54
George Mikan0.54
Hal Greer0.54
Jerry Lucas0.54
Jerry West0.54
John Havlicek0.54
Lenny Wilkens0.54
Nate Thurmond0.54
Oscar0.54
Paul Arizin0.54
Rick Barry0.54
Sam Jones0.54
Walt Bellamy0.54
Willis Reed0.54
Wilt0.54
Zelmo Beaty0.54
T-Mac0.53
George Gervin0.53
D Wade0.52
Dirk0.51
Bill Laimbeer0.49
Dave Cowens0.49
Jack Sikma0.49
Jokic0.48
LeBron0.46
Buck Williams0.45
David Thompson0.45
Pippen0.45
Karl Malone0.44
Chuck0.43
MJ0.43
Sam Perkins0.43
Marques Johnson0.40
Larry0.40
Kawhi0.40
Vince0.39
Alex English0.38
Clyde Drexler0.37
James Worthy0.37
Paul Pierce0.36
Eddie Jones0.36
Grant Hill0.35
Dennis Rodman0.34
Iggy0.33
Klay0.33
Harden0.33
Wes Unseld0.33
Mullin0.33
Dominique0.32
Melo0.31
Jimmy0.31
Blake0.31
Kobe0.29
Dan Issel0.28
Nate McMillan0.27
K Love0.27
Paul George0.27
Kyrie0.25
AC Green0.24
Doc Rivers0.24
Otis Thorpe0.23
Alvin Robertson0.23
Manu0.21
D Rose0.21
Magic0.20
Kyle Lowry0.19
Terrell Brandon0.19
Dame0.19
Russ0.19
Kidd0.18
Sidney Moncrief0.17
Earl Monroe0.17
Mookie Blaylock0.17
Detlef Schrempf0.17
Fat Lever0.16
Mo Cheeks0.16
Pistol Pete0.15
IT0.15
Steph0.13
Jason Terry0.13
Kevin Johnson0.12
Joe Johnson0.12
Jeff Hornacek0.12
Stockton0.12
Andre Miller0.12
Ray Allen0.12
Chauncey0.12
Gary Payton0.11
Rod Strickland0.11
Reggie0.11
AI0.11
Walt Frazier0.10
Adrian Dantley0.09
Chris Paul0.09
Rajon Rondo0.09
Tim Hardaway0.08
Terry Porter0.07
Tony Parker0.06
Nash0.06
Tiny Archibald0.06
Mark Price0.06
Overall blocks leaderboard

And now our cumulative leaderboard, which will include changes in both steals and blocks.

PlayerTOTAL GOAT POINTS
Wilt15.80
Larry15.39
LeBron15.27
Jokic15.08
Magic14.83
AD14.81
David Robinson14.80
MJ14.80
George Mikan14.64
Chuck14.56
Hakeem14.55
KAT14.52
Russ14.43
Giannis14.40
Harden14.34
Chris Paul14.30
KD14.13
Steph14.09
Shaq14.04
Bob Pettit14.04
Karl Malone13.98
Dr J13.89
CWebb13.82
Tim Duncan13.78
KG13.76
Kareem13.70
Oscar13.62
Bill Russell13.47
Clyde Drexler13.46
Stockton13.44
Dwight13.36
Elgin Baylor13.36
AI13.34
Kobe13.29
Kidd13.27
Kawhi13.18
Rick Barry13.16
K Love13.14
Ewing13.03
T-Mac13.02
Gobert13.01
Walt Bellamy13.01
D Wade13.00
Artis Gilmore12.99
Billy Cunningham12.96
Jerry Lucas12.95
Dame12.94
Dirk12.93
Pau12.90
Jerry West12.86
Dolph Schayes12.84
Paul George12.82
Kyrie12.80
Tim Hardaway12.80
Pippen12.79
Bob Lanier12.79
Blake12.72
Alonzo Mourning12.70
Yao12.62
Dominique12.59
Shawn Marion12.57
Paul Pierce12.54
Kevin Johnson12.52
Moses12.52
Elvin Hayes12.51
IT12.50
Jack Sikma12.49
Willis Reed12.42
Fat Lever12.41
Nate Thurmond12.40
Bosh12.39
Bill Walton12.37
Horford12.36
Jimmy12.35
Mookie Blaylock12.29
Gary Payton12.27
Paul Arizin12.26
Nash12.25
Bob McAdoo12.19
Marc Gasol12.17
Dave Cowens12.17
LaMarcus Aldridge12.13
Kyle Lowry12.12
Melo12.08
Larry Nance12.08
Alvin Robertson12.08
Ed Macauley12.08
AK4712.06
Wes Unseld12.06
Dray12.05
Millsap12.03
George Gervin12.02
Dan Issel12.01
Vlade Divac11.99
Bob Cousy11.99
Mark Price11.99
Elton Brand11.98
Grant Hill11.94
Mullin11.88
Bill Laimbeer11.81
Terrell Brandon11.79
Bailey Howell11.79
Ray Allen11.74
Sheed Wallace11.70
John Havlicek11.70
Pistol Pete11.66
Manu11.65
Dave DeBusschere11.64
Chauncey11.64
Marques Johnson11.63
Rajon Rondo11.62
McHale11.59
Dikembe11.56
Eddie Jones11.56
Jeff Hornacek11.55
Dennis Rodman11.54
Vince11.54
Rod Strickland11.53
Dave Bing11.44
Reggie11.40
Detlef Schrempf11.40
David Thompson11.37
Lenny Wilkens11.37
Zelmo Beaty11.36
Terry Porter11.35
Doc Rivers11.34
Alex English11.31
Robert Parish11.26
Chet Walker11.23
Nate McMillan11.21
Adrian Dantley11.19
Iggy11.07
Sidney Moncrief11.06
Bill Sharman11.06
Andre Miller11.06
D Rose11.05
Mo Cheeks11.03
Buck Williams10.98
Klay10.97
Tiny Archibald10.94
Walt Frazier10.93
Sam Perkins10.92
Hal Greer10.88
James Worthy10.84
Horace Grant10.83
Bobby Jones10.81
Clifford Robinson10.76
Tony Parker10.75
Sam Jones10.62
Tyson Chandler10.61
Joe Johnson10.59
Jason Terry10.52
Otis Thorpe10.43
AC Green10.22
Mark Eaton9.81
Tree Rollins9.67
Earl Monroe9.31
Cumulative GOAT leaderboard

We see our top five maintained while AD, David Robinson, and Hakeem jump into the top 11. On the other side of things, Scottie Pippen remains outside of the top 50 at 55, joined by Moses Malone (64), Steve Nash (78), Melo (84), Draymond (90), Ray Allen (103), Vince Carter (117), Reggie Miller (120), and Klay Thompson (139).

Fouls (1)

This is going to be a very quick and low-value category. On the one hand, the difference between someone who consistently tosses up a few fouls a game and someone who rarely fouls is important enough to take into account. On the other hand, the still lacking importance of individual fouling stats – from the relative ease with which a “fouling problem” can be overcome by other areas of the game (see Giannis and his charges as a modern example) to the low volume of fouls to the fact that there are a number of fouls every game that lead to nothing but the other team getting the ball on the sideline – means that we won’t give much of a value here. There are also very few stats that we can look at when it comes to fouls; we just have fouls per game and per 36. Lastly, we have to consider that an increase in fouls can be due to an increased defensive (or offensive in the case of a bulldozer like Giannis) role. This is essentially the same thing we talked about with turnovers. These comparisons don’t work too well in a vacuum because the guy who guards the best player on the other team is probably going to have more fouls than the guy who guards the shooter in the corner. That’s a role-based determination more than anything. All of this is to say that you ideally foul less than more, which isn’t a meaningless distinction, but there are plenty of factors to consider that should stop us from putting too much weight on foul stats. One piece of good news – fouls have been recorded every year of league history, which makes that piece of the puzzle an easy one to deal with.

Subcategories:

  • Pure Volume (1) – Fouls per game (0.6), Fouls per 36 minutes (0.4)

We’ll start with simple fouls per game, and we will adjust for era here as well. Someone averaging four fouls in an era where twenty were called per game is different from someone averaging four fouls in an era where thirty were called per game. For dishing out goat points, we’ll use the same method we used for turnovers since less is more here. We take the number of goat points (0.6 here) and divide it by a multiplier greater than 1 that we create by dividing someone’s era-adjusted foul number by the leader in the clubhouse’s number (Mark Price’s 1.62).

PlayerFPGMultiplierEA FPGGOAT POINTS
Mark Price1.31.2471427561.620.60
D Rose1.31.4227940431.850.53
Jimmy1.41.4343993872.010.48
Terry Porter1.71899-122.130.46
Nash1.61.3389598422.140.45
Tony Parker1.61899-122.200.44
Sam Jones21.1054942012.210.44
Wilt21.1314329612.260.43
Terrell Brandon1.81.2805346022.300.42
Dominique1.91.2237513582.330.42
AC Green1.91.2458374272.370.41
Kidd1.81.3256672972.390.41
T-Mac1.81.3301506622.390.41
Mookie Blaylock1.91.274100882.420.40
Rod Strickland1.91.2776313472.430.40
Kawhi1.71.430900552.430.40
Sidney Moncrief2.11.1692407692.460.40
Jason Terry1.81.36600172.460.40
Mo Cheeks2.11.180527052.480.39
AI1.91.3139096612.500.39
Joe Johnson1.81.3881296442.500.39
LeBron1.81.3932174232.510.39
Iggy1.81.3958520362.510.39
James Worthy2.11.2033240222.530.38
Reggie21.273041872.550.38
Mullin2.11.2458374272.620.37
Kevin Johnson2.11.2556578212.640.37
Bob Cousy2.41.1042053732.650.37
Tiny Archibald2.31.1651923172.680.36
KD1.91.4193696782.700.36
Magic2.31.1756202412.700.36
Dame1.91.430900552.720.36
AK4721.3652363862.730.36
Jeff Hornacek2.21.2499329912.750.35
Chauncey2.11.3410652792.820.35
Moses2.41.1850762762.840.34
K Love21.4227940432.850.34
Ed Macauley2.61.0974537422.850.34
Fat Lever2.41.2033240222.890.34
Pau2.11.37802732.890.34
Manu2.11.3792506512.900.34
Alex English2.51.1636628952.910.33
Tim Hardaway2.31.2774580252.940.33
Ray Allen2.21.3389598422.950.33
Larry2.51.1790912712.950.33
Jerry West2.61.1375103922.960.33
Rajon Rondo2.11.4117401552.960.33
Marques Johnson2.61.1424444862.970.33
Bill Sharman2.71.1006816012.970.33
Shawn Marion2.21.3525525452.980.33
Andre Miller2.21.3564447022.980.33
Chet Walker2.61.1479795922.980.33
John Havlicek2.61.1481712062.990.33
Bill Russell2.71.1087185212.990.32
Klay2.11.4343993873.010.32
Walt Frazier2.61.1689727323.040.32
Earl Monroe2.61.1689727323.040.32
D Wade2.21899-123.040.32
Grant Hill2.31.3256672973.050.32
Horace Grant2.41899-123.060.32
David Thompson2.71.1372405883.070.32
Gary Payton2.41.2840556893.080.32
Sam Perkins2.51.2405897263.100.31
Nate Thurmond2.71.1514421323.110.31
Horford2.21.4193696783.120.31
Adrian Dantley2.71.1636628953.140.31
Oscar2.81.1375103923.190.31
Bobby Jones2.81.1471181813.210.30
Bill Walton2.81.1472136543.210.30
Dr J2.81.1486755833.220.30
KG2.41.3427577553.220.30
MJ2.61.2431660613.230.30
Tim Duncan2.41.3496090273.240.30
Stockton2.61.2510324653.250.30
Dirk2.41.3633009543.270.30
Wes Unseld2.81899-123.280.30
AD2.31.430900553.290.30
Bosh2.41.3732643953.300.29
Kyrie2.31.4343993873.300.29
Pistol Pete2.81.1824766363.310.29
McHale2.81.1837875363.310.29
Dan Issel2.91.1456961323.320.29
Jerry Lucas2.91.1482597453.330.29
Robert Parish2.81.193894793.340.29
Eddie Jones2.61.2945015773.370.29
Chris Paul2.41.4030000223.370.29
Kobe2.51.3472869473.370.29
Dave Bing2.91.1647678643.380.29
LaMarcus Aldridge2.41899-123.390.29
Steph2.41.4267452333.420.28
Rick Barry31.1447505463.430.28
Tree Rollins2.91.1874217843.440.28
Larry Nance2.91.19531733.470.28
Elgin Baylor3.11.1203282763.470.28
Kareem31.1672653633.500.28
Lenny Wilkens3.11.1406887113.540.27
Vince2.61.3642697923.550.27
George Gervin3.11.1481348123.560.27
Bob Pettit3.21.1129634643.560.27
Pippen2.81.2729657283.560.27
IT31.19531733.590.27
Dikembe2.81.2961346973.630.27
Dave DeBusschere3.21.1448791253.660.27
Paul Pierce2.71.358110183.670.27
Clyde Drexler31.225431723.680.26
Russ2.61.4227940433.700.26
David Robinson2.91.2774580253.700.26
Bob McAdoo3.21.1579649453.710.26
Harden2.61.4267452333.710.26
Gobert2.61.4282733383.710.26
Elvin Hayes3.21.161844663.720.26
Bob Lanier3.21899-123.730.26
Dolph Schayes3.41.0978968383.730.26
Detlef Schrempf31.2458374273.740.26
Nate McMillan31.2471427563.740.26
Doc Rivers3.11.214814933.770.26
Kyle Lowry2.71.4117401553.810.26
Chuck3.11.2374090953.840.25
Hal Greer3.41.129850253.840.25
Clifford Robinson31.281388793.840.25
Tyson Chandler2.81.3783740423.860.25
Sheed Wallace2.91.3312303733.860.25
Paul George2.71.4308081343.860.25
Blake2.71.4308081343.860.25
Dennis Rodman3.11.2499329913.870.25
Walt Bellamy3.41.1454074143.890.25
Melo2.81.3932174233.900.25
Karl Malone3.11.2609886693.910.25
Artis Gilmore3.41.1514017693.910.25
Elton Brand2.91899-123.930.25
Buck Williams3.31.2121007324.000.24
Dray2.81.430900554.010.24
Jokic2.81.433916164.010.24
Zelmo Beaty3.61.1221080434.040.24
Bill Laimbeer3.41.1918953764.050.24
Mark Eaton3.41.1947809974.060.24
Jack Sikma3.51899-124.080.24
Otis Thorpe3.31.2405897264.090.24
Vlade Divac3.21.2815339394.100.24
Marc Gasol2.91.4192099124.120.24
Bailey Howell3.71899-124.120.24
CWebb3.21.2946879584.140.23
Alvin Robertson3.41.2230262524.160.23
Millsap31.4117401554.240.23
Billy Cunningham3.71.1478149094.250.23
Ewing3.41.2524640834.260.23
Willis Reed3.71.1556230334.280.23
Giannis31.4282733384.280.23
Paul Arizin3.91.1016222274.300.23
Dwight3.11.3958520364.330.22
Hakeem3.51.2471397734.360.22
Alonzo Mourning3.41.2913561684.390.22
Yao3.31.3348709674.410.22
Shaq3.41.3053906334.440.22
Dave Cowens3.81.1772514884.470.22
George Mikan4.21.0791046664.530.21
KAT3.41.433916164.880.20
FPG

We can then do the same thing with fouls per 36. There are 0.4 goat points on the line here. Wilt sitting at the top is pretty crazy. I don’t know how much of that speaks to a lack of defensive effort, a favorable whistle, or just a skill for avoiding fouls, but it’s an impressive place to be for a seven-footer regardless. There are a number of players that rank highly here that you would think would be in positions to foul with relative frequency given matchups and all of that, and I think it’s probably fair to say that they’re not all just incredibly gifted at playing hands-free defense…

Also, shoutout to Tree Rollins for averaging more than 5 fouls per 36 minutes even before the era adjustment. That’s an impressive dedication to the craft of the personal foul.

PlayerFP36MultiplierEA FP36GOAT POINTS
Wilt1.61.1314329611.810.40
D Rose1.41.4227940431.990.36
Mark Price1.61.2471427562.000.36
AI1.71.3139096612.230.32
Jimmy1.61.4343993872.300.32
Dominique1.91.2237513582.330.31
LeBron1.71.3932174232.370.31
Kidd1.81.3256672972.390.30
Joe Johnson1.81.3881296442.500.29
Nash1.91.3389598422.540.28
Mookie Blaylock21.274100882.550.28
Bill Russell2.31.1087185212.550.28
Magic2.21.1756202412.590.28
Tony Parker1.91899-122.620.28
T-Mac21.3301506622.660.27
Reggie2.11.273041872.670.27
Tiny Archibald2.31.1651923172.680.27
KD1.91.4193696782.700.27
Mo Cheeks2.31.180527052.720.27
Dame1.91.430900552.720.27
Oscar2.41.1375103922.730.27
Jerry West2.41.1375103922.730.27
Ed Macauley2.51.0974537422.740.26
Terry Porter2.21899-122.760.26
Bob Cousy2.51.1042053732.760.26
Kevin Johnson2.21.2556578212.760.26
Iggy21.3958520362.790.26
Rod Strickland2.21.2776313472.810.26
Terrell Brandon2.21.2805346022.820.26
Larry2.41.1790912712.830.26
Kawhi21.430900552.860.25
Mullin2.31.2458374272.870.25
John Havlicek2.51.1481712062.870.25
Sam Jones2.61.1054942012.870.25
James Worthy2.41.2033240222.890.25
Walt Frazier2.51.1689727322.920.25
Sidney Moncrief2.51.1692407692.920.25
Ray Allen2.21.3389598422.950.25
Moses2.51.1850762762.960.24
MJ2.41.2431660612.980.24
AC Green2.41.2458374272.990.24
Nate Thurmond2.61.1514421322.990.24
Jason Terry2.21.36600173.010.24
Tim Hardaway2.41.2774580253.070.24
Marques Johnson2.71.1424444863.080.23
Jerry Lucas2.71.1482597453.100.23
Shawn Marion2.31.3525525453.110.23
Jeff Hornacek2.51.2499329913.120.23
Elgin Baylor2.81.1203282763.140.23
Adrian Dantley2.71.1636628953.140.23
Pau2.31.37802733.170.23
D Wade2.31899-123.180.23
Gary Payton2.51.2840556893.210.23
Dr J2.81.1486755833.220.23
Chauncey2.41.3410652793.220.22
Fat Lever2.71.2033240223.250.22
K Love2.31.4227940433.270.22
AK472.41.3652363863.280.22
Wes Unseld2.81899-123.280.22
Bosh2.41.3732643953.300.22
David Thompson2.91.1372405883.300.22
Klay2.31.4343993873.300.22
Bill Sharman31.1006816013.300.22
Horace Grant2.61899-123.310.22
Pistol Pete2.81.1824766363.310.22
Grant Hill2.51.3256672973.310.22
Rick Barry2.91.1447505463.320.22
Chet Walker2.91.1479795923.330.22
Bob Pettit31.1129634643.340.22
KG2.51.3427577553.360.22
Kobe2.51.3472869473.370.21
Tim Duncan2.51.3496090273.370.21
Alex English2.91.1636628953.370.21
Dave Bing2.91.1647678643.380.21
Kareem2.91.1672653633.390.21
Earl Monroe2.91.1689727323.390.21
Dirk2.51.3633009543.410.21
Dan Issel31.1456961323.440.21
Kyrie2.41.4343993873.440.21
Elvin Hayes31.161844663.490.21
Eddie Jones2.71.2945015773.500.21
Chris Paul2.51.4030000223.510.21
Andre Miller2.61.3564447023.530.21
Rajon Rondo2.51.4117401553.530.21
Lenny Wilkens3.11.1406887113.540.20
Horford2.51.4193696783.550.20
Steph2.51.4267452333.570.20
AD2.51.430900553.580.20
IT31.19531733.590.20
Dave DeBusschere3.21.1448791253.660.20
LaMarcus Aldridge2.61899-123.670.20
Pippen2.91.2729657283.690.20
Chuck31.2374090953.710.20
Stockton31.2510324653.750.19
Walt Bellamy3.31.1454074143.780.19
Karl Malone31.2609886693.780.19
George Gervin3.31.1481348123.790.19
Larry Nance3.21.19531733.830.19
David Robinson31.2774580253.830.19
Russ2.71.4227940433.840.19
Dolph Schayes3.51.0978968383.840.19
Sam Perkins3.11.2405897263.850.19
Harden2.71.4267452333.850.19
McHale3.31.1837875363.910.19
Clyde Drexler3.21.225431723.920.18
Paul Pierce2.91.358110183.940.18
Hal Greer3.51.129850253.950.18
Bob Lanier3.41899-123.960.18
Paul Arizin3.61.1016222273.970.18
Paul George2.81.4308081344.010.18
Bill Walton3.51.1472136544.020.18
Artis Gilmore3.51.1514017694.030.18
Melo2.91.3932174234.040.18
Bob McAdoo3.51.1579649454.050.18
Manu31.3792506514.140.17
CWebb3.21.2946879584.140.17
Robert Parish3.51.193894794.180.17
Vince3.11.3642697924.230.17
Dave Cowens3.61.1772514884.240.17
Bobby Jones3.71.1471181814.240.17
Sheed Wallace3.21.3312303734.260.17
Dikembe3.31.2961346974.280.17
Blake31.4308081344.290.17
Elton Brand3.21899-124.340.17
Billy Cunningham3.81.1478149094.360.17
Buck Williams3.61.2121007324.360.17
Dennis Rodman3.51.2499329914.370.17
Zelmo Beaty3.91.1221080434.380.17
Kyle Lowry3.11.4117401554.380.17
Willis Reed3.81.1556230334.390.16
Jack Sikma3.81899-124.430.16
Gobert3.11.4282733384.430.16
Clifford Robinson3.51.281388794.480.16
Detlef Schrempf3.61.2458374274.490.16
Hakeem3.61.2471397734.490.16
Ewing3.61.2524640834.510.16
Marc Gasol3.21.4192099124.540.16
Bailey Howell4.11899-124.560.16
Otis Thorpe3.71.2405897264.590.16
George Mikan4.31.0791046664.640.16
Alvin Robertson3.81.2230262524.650.16
Bill Laimbeer3.91.1918953764.650.16
Shaq3.61.3053906334.700.15
Giannis3.31.4282733384.710.15
Jokic3.31.433916164.730.15
Yao3.61.3348709674.810.15
Vlade Divac3.81.2815339394.870.15
Doc Rivers4.11.214814934.980.15
Dray3.51.430900555.010.14
Mark Eaton4.21.1947809975.020.14
Dwight3.61.3958520365.030.14
Alonzo Mourning3.91.2913561685.040.14
Tyson Chandler3.71.3783740425.100.14
KAT3.61.433916165.160.14
Nate McMillan4.21.2471427565.240.14
Millsap3.81.4117401555.360.13
Tree Rollins5.11.1874217846.060.12
FP36

And that’s all she wrote on fouls. Here’s our overall fouls leaderboard –

PlayerFOUL GOAT POINTS
Mark Price0.96
D Rose0.89
Wilt0.83
Jimmy0.80
Nash0.74
Dominique0.73
Terry Porter0.72
Tony Parker0.72
AI0.71
Kidd0.71
LeBron0.69
Sam Jones0.69
Mookie Blaylock0.69
Joe Johnson0.68
Terrell Brandon0.68
T-Mac0.68
Mo Cheeks0.66
Rod Strickland0.66
AC Green0.65
Reggie0.65
Kawhi0.65
Iggy0.65
Sidney Moncrief0.64
Magic0.64
Jason Terry0.64
James Worthy0.64
Tiny Archibald0.63
Kevin Johnson0.63
Bob Cousy0.63
KD0.63
Mullin0.62
Dame0.62
Bill Russell0.61
Ed Macauley0.60
Jerry West0.59
Moses0.59
Larry0.59
Jeff Hornacek0.59
John Havlicek0.58
AK470.58
Ray Allen0.58
Oscar0.57
Chauncey0.57
Walt Frazier0.57
Tim Hardaway0.57
Pau0.56
K Love0.56
Marques Johnson0.56
Fat Lever0.56
Shawn Marion0.56
Nate Thurmond0.55
Alex English0.55
D Wade0.55
Bill Sharman0.55
MJ0.54
Chet Walker0.54
Klay0.54
Gary Payton0.54
Adrian Dantley0.54
Grant Hill0.54
Horace Grant0.54
David Thompson0.54
Earl Monroe0.53
Rajon Rondo0.53
Andre Miller0.53
Dr J0.53
Jerry Lucas0.53
KG0.52
Wes Unseld0.52
Horford0.52
Tim Duncan0.51
Bosh0.51
Pistol Pete0.51
Elgin Baylor0.51
Manu0.51
Dirk0.51
Kyrie0.50
Kobe0.50
Dan Issel0.50
Dave Bing0.50
Sam Perkins0.50
Rick Barry0.50
AD0.50
Eddie Jones0.50
Chris Paul0.50
Stockton0.49
Kareem0.49
Bob Pettit0.49
Steph0.49
LaMarcus Aldridge0.48
Bill Walton0.48
Lenny Wilkens0.48
McHale0.48
Bobby Jones0.47
IT0.47
Larry Nance0.47
Elvin Hayes0.47
Pippen0.47
George Gervin0.46
Robert Parish0.46
Dave DeBusschere0.46
David Robinson0.45
Russ0.45
Harden0.45
Clyde Drexler0.45
Paul Pierce0.45
Dolph Schayes0.45
Chuck0.45
Vince0.45
Bob Lanier0.44
Walt Bellamy0.44
Bob McAdoo0.44
Karl Malone0.44
Dikembe0.44
Hal Greer0.44
Paul George0.43
Melo0.43
Artis Gilmore0.43
Gobert0.43
Sheed Wallace0.42
Detlef Schrempf0.42
Kyle Lowry0.42
Blake0.42
Dennis Rodman0.42
Clifford Robinson0.41
Elton Brand0.41
CWebb0.41
Buck Williams0.41
Paul Arizin0.41
Zelmo Beaty0.41
Doc Rivers0.40
Jack Sikma0.40
Tree Rollins0.40
Nate McMillan0.40
Bill Laimbeer0.40
Marc Gasol0.40
Otis Thorpe0.40
Jokic0.40
Billy Cunningham0.39
Bailey Howell0.39
Tyson Chandler0.39
Willis Reed0.39
Alvin Robertson0.39
Ewing0.39
Dave Cowens0.39
Dray0.39
Vlade Divac0.39
Hakeem0.38
Mark Eaton0.38
Giannis0.38
Shaq0.37
Yao0.37
George Mikan0.37
Dwight0.37
Alonzo Mourning0.37
Millsap0.36
KAT0.34
Overall Foul Goat Points Leaderboard

And we’ll do a cumulative leaderboard here too. Not much has changed obviously given that everyone got less than a point here. But there’s not much of a connection between fouls and our next category – which is a big one in longevity – so let’s just see exactly where we stand before we get there.

PlayerTOTAL GOAT POINTS
Wilt16.63
Larry15.98
LeBron15.96
Jokic15.48
Magic15.47
MJ15.34
AD15.31
David Robinson15.25
George Mikan15.01
Chuck15.01
Hakeem14.93
Russ14.88
KAT14.86
Chris Paul14.80
Harden14.79
Giannis14.78
KD14.76
Steph14.58
Bob Pettit14.53
Karl Malone14.42
Dr J14.42
Shaq14.41
Tim Duncan14.29
KG14.28
CWebb14.23
Kareem14.19
Oscar14.19
Bill Russell14.08
AI14.05
Kidd13.98
Stockton13.93
Clyde Drexler13.91
Elgin Baylor13.87
Kawhi13.83
Kobe13.79
Dwight13.73
K Love13.70
T-Mac13.70
Rick Barry13.66
Dame13.56
D Wade13.55
Jerry Lucas13.48
Pau13.46
Jerry West13.45
Walt Bellamy13.45
Dirk13.44
Gobert13.44
Ewing13.42
Artis Gilmore13.42
Tim Hardaway13.37
Billy Cunningham13.35
Dominique13.32
Kyrie13.30
Dolph Schayes13.29
Pippen13.26
Paul George13.25
Bob Lanier13.23
Kevin Johnson13.15
Jimmy13.15
Blake13.14
Shawn Marion13.13
Moses13.11
Alonzo Mourning13.07
Yao12.99
Paul Pierce12.99
Nash12.99
Elvin Hayes12.98
Mookie Blaylock12.98
IT12.97
Fat Lever12.97
Nate Thurmond12.95
Mark Price12.95
Bosh12.90
Jack Sikma12.89
Horford12.88
Bill Walton12.85
Willis Reed12.81
Gary Payton12.81
Ed Macauley12.68
Paul Arizin12.67
AK4712.64
Bob McAdoo12.63
Bob Cousy12.62
LaMarcus Aldridge12.61
Wes Unseld12.58
Marc Gasol12.57
Dave Cowens12.56
Larry Nance12.55
Kyle Lowry12.54
Dan Issel12.51
Melo12.51
Mullin12.50
George Gervin12.48
Grant Hill12.48
Alvin Robertson12.47
Terrell Brandon12.47
Dray12.44
Millsap12.39
Elton Brand12.39
Vlade Divac12.38
Ray Allen12.32
John Havlicek12.28
Chauncey12.21
Bill Laimbeer12.21
Marques Johnson12.19
Rod Strickland12.19
Bailey Howell12.18
Pistol Pete12.17
Manu12.16
Rajon Rondo12.15
Jeff Hornacek12.14
Sheed Wallace12.12
Dave DeBusschere12.10
Terry Porter12.07
McHale12.07
Eddie Jones12.06
Reggie12.05
Dikembe12.00
Vince11.99
Dennis Rodman11.96
Dave Bing11.94
D Rose11.94
David Thompson11.91
Alex English11.86
Lenny Wilkens11.85
Detlef Schrempf11.82
Chet Walker11.77
Zelmo Beaty11.77
Doc Rivers11.74
Adrian Dantley11.73
Robert Parish11.72
Iggy11.72
Sidney Moncrief11.70
Mo Cheeks11.69
Nate McMillan11.61
Bill Sharman11.61
Andre Miller11.59
Tiny Archibald11.57
Klay11.51
Walt Frazier11.50
James Worthy11.48
Tony Parker11.47
Sam Perkins11.42
Buck Williams11.39
Horace Grant11.37
Hal Greer11.32
Sam Jones11.31
Bobby Jones11.28
Joe Johnson11.27
Clifford Robinson11.17
Jason Terry11.16
Tyson Chandler11.00
AC Green10.87
Otis Thorpe10.83
Mark Eaton10.19
Tree Rollins10.07
Earl Monroe9.84
Cumulative Goat Points Leaderboard

And here we are. We have a lot of familiar names in the top 30. It will be interesting to see how guys like Jokic and AD – sitting all the way up in the top 10 – will fare as we run through more categories. A few interesting notes – again under the caveat that we still have a long way to go here –

  • Kobe is sitting down in 36th. Obviously a guy with plenty to gain from longevity and the postseason, which are coming still, but Bryant tends to be one of the guys we see a pretty big ranking gap with between your average “hooper”-focused fan and the fan more interested in analytics and numbers. Where does he end up?
  • Jokic being 4th is obviously a testament to his ability and production (same for AD in 7th), but it is worth noting that these are two guys that are still both relatively young and yet to hit the late-career stat drop that so many experience. Also obviously worth noting that many of the remaining categories likely won’t be particularly kind to either. The same can be said for KAT at 13.
  • We will see where Russ and George Mikan end up, but with both sitting in the top 15, it’s worth noting that these two, whether due to era or a controversial late-career run, likely get far less respect than they are due. The same could be said for Bob Pettit at 19.
  • I won’t spend too much more time here, but the difference between Dame (40) and Kyrie (53) jumps out to me, especially considering that Dame – minus the one title – likely has an edge on Kyrie in matters of longevity and the like.
  • And, as usual, some of the interesting names outside of the top 50 – Pippen (55), Moses Malone (62), Pierce and Nash (65 and 66), Isiah Thomas (69), Melo (91), Draymond (97), Ray Allen (101), Reggie Miller (117), Vince Carter (119), and Klay down in 139th.
Longevity (10)

Longevity is crucial when it comes to the goat discussion. Five great years are great. Ten great years are special. Fifteen great years put you in some rarefied air. And then there’s LeBron with not a whole lot around him. James has been a great player – not always the best in the league but a great player – for eighteen years running now, and he just managed to win Rookie of the Year with a season that the vast majority of the league would be more than happy with the season before that stretch began. That’s the most compelling angle to his GOAT argument. LeBron has been so dang good for a period of time that just leaves you scratching your head. The Year 19!!!! boasts on social media could be done without, but there’s no denying how impressive that longevity has been. And that matters quite a bit. It’s not everything, but it’s a big piece of the puzzle. It’s also worth noting that this is an important check on KAT, AD, Jokic, Giannis, etc. given where they are in their careers. So how do we measure it? Longevity is woven into a lot of the other stats. More years playing at a high level will boost your career averages, which we’ve mostly gone through in full to this point and will continue on with in our advanced metrics sections soon. More of those years also lead to more opportunities for the kind of postseason accomplishments we’ll be covering later on. To some degree, there’s no escaping longevity as we go through these categories. But the full story won’t be told there. There’s the player that didn’t necessarily have elite longevity but retired before the fall off the cliff diminished their averages (or is still playing in their prime). There’s the reverse of that too – the player that played something like 20 years and probably hung on a little too long, leading to a greater decrease in their numbers than their career as a whole deserved. So we can also measure longevity itself, using games and minutes played (both total and per game for the latter). There’s probably something to be said for using games started as a tool to show players that never declined to the point of coming off the bench, but there are difficulties in that given that certain star players might hold on to a starting job longer than they deserve at the end and that a player like Manu Ginobli might be a starting level player that just happened to perfectly fill a different role for a very successful team. Throw in the fact that games started weren’t recorded for the first 20+ years of league history, and there’s not really any great reason to dig into that stat. Years played is another stat that theoretically makes sense to look into, but not every year is equal with injuries, increasing rest, etc. Steph’s five game season in 2020 obviously wasn’t the same as one of his 70+ game seasons. Using games and minutes played takes that difficulty out of the equation and puts the focus solely on how much someone was on the court.

Subcategories:

  • Games Played (5)
  • Total Minutes Played (3)
  • Minutes Per Game (2)

We can start with games played, which is about as simple as it gets.

PlayerGPGOAT POINTS
Robert Parish16115
Kareem15604.84
Vince15414.78
Dirk15224.72
Stockton15044.67
Karl Malone14764.58
KG14624.54
Moses14554.52
Jason Terry14104.38
Tim Duncan13924.32
Kidd13914.32
Reggie13894.31
Clifford Robinson13804.28
LeBron13664.24
Kobe13464.18
Paul Pierce13434.17
Gary Payton13354.14
Artis Gilmore13294.12
Buck Williams13074.06
Andre Miller13044.05
Elvin Hayes13034.04
Ray Allen13004.03
Sam Perkins12863.99
AC Green12783.97
Joe Johnson12773.96
Terry Porter12743.95
John Havlicek12703.94
Melo12603.91
Otis Thorpe12573.90
Tony Parker12543.89
Dr J12433.86
Dwight12423.85
Hakeem12383.84
Pau12263.81
Iggy12233.80
Dan Issel12183.78
Nash12173.78
Shaq12073.75
Dikembe11963.71
Alex English11933.70
Ewing11833.67
Pippen11783.66
Horace Grant11653.62
Shawn Marion11633.61
Tyson Chandler11603.60
Tree Rollins11563.59
Chris Paul11553.58
Detlef Schrempf11363.53
Vlade Divac11343.52
Hal Greer11223.48
Sheed Wallace11093.44
Jack Sikma11073.44
Mo Cheeks11013.42
Rod Strickland10943.40
Clyde Drexler10863.37
Millsap10853.37
Jeff Hornacek10773.34
Lenny Wilkens10773.34
LaMarcus Aldridge10763.34
Dominique10743.33
Chuck10733.33
MJ10723.33
Bill Laimbeer10683.31
George Gervin10603.29
Elton Brand10583.28
Manu10573.28
D Wade10543.27
Wilt10453.24
Walt Bellamy10433.24
Chauncey10433.24
Oscar10403.23
Chet Walker10323.20
Grant Hill10263.18
Kyle Lowry10233.18
Russ10213.17
Rick Barry10203.17
Dolph Schayes9963.09
David Robinson9873.06
Mullin9863.06
Wes Unseld9843.05
IT9793.04
McHale9713.01
Nate Thurmond9642.99
Bill Russell9632.99
Bob Lanier9592.98
Rajon Rondo9572.97
Adrian Dantley9552.96
Eddie Jones9542.96
Bailey Howell9502.95
Horford9502.95
Harden9422.92
Bobby Jones9412.92
KD9392.91
T-Mac9382.91
Jerry West9322.89
James Worthy9262.87
Earl Monroe9262.87
Bob Cousy9242.87
Larry Nance9202.86
AI9142.84
Dennis Rodman9112.83
Magic9062.81
Dave Bing9012.80
Larry8972.78
Bosh8932.77
Marc Gasol8912.77
Zelmo Beaty8892.76
Mookie Blaylock8892.76
Tiny Archibald8762.72
Mark Eaton8752.72
Dave DeBusschere8752.72
Sam Jones8712.70
Tim Hardaway8672.69
Doc Rivers8642.68
Bob McAdoo8522.64
Elgin Baylor8462.63
Alonzo Mourning8382.60
CWebb8312.58
Jerry Lucas8292.57
Steph8262.56
Walt Frazier8252.56
K Love8122.52
AK477972.47
Nate McMillan7962.47
Bob Pettit7922.46
Alvin Robertson7792.42
Billy Cunningham7702.39
Sidney Moncrief7672.38
Dave Cowens7662.38
Fat Lever7522.33
Paul George7372.29
Kevin Johnson7352.28
Terrell Brandon7242.25
Blake7242.25
Mark Price7222.24
Paul Arizin7132.21
Dame7112.21
Bill Sharman7112.21
Marques Johnson6912.14
Jimmy6902.14
Dray6852.13
D Rose6722.09
Pistol Pete6582.04
Giannis6562.04
Willis Reed6502.02
Klay6472.01
Ed Macauley6411.99
Kyrie6111.90
Gobert6111.90
AD6041.87
David Thompson5921.84
Kawhi5761.79
Jokic5271.64
Yao4861.51
KAT4821.50
Bill Walton4681.45
George Mikan4391.36
GP

Total minutes played is equally simple. There are three goat points on the line here. One small note here – I just have games played and minutes per game collected for everyone, so I’m just going to multiply the two to get minutes played instead of taking the time to gather all that data. Since there’s some rounding involved, the total minutes played numbers might be off by one minute for the occasional player. I’m willing to accept that level of error. Another note (whoops) – minutes played weren’t recorded until 1952. This leaves a few players with a few empty seasons at the start of their careers where we technically don’t know how much they played. So the minutes per game average for George Mikan (the prime example given the shortness of his career) or Bob Cousy is only based on the seasons where we have recorded minutes per game. For someone like Cousy who played fifteen seasons with only one prior to 1952, this is largely irrelevant. But for these guys there will be varying degrees of “our minutes played number is probably a little off but it’s close enough”. Since we’re estimating based on the average minutes played we have access to and games played (which we do know for every year), we won’t be substantially low, but there might be some error that’s a little more significant than one minute in either direction.

PlayerMPGOAT POINTS
Kareem574083.00
Karl Malone549072.87
LeBron521812.73
Dirk514442.69
KG504392.64
Kidd500762.62
Elvin Hayes500352.61
Moses494702.59
Kobe485912.54
Wilt478612.50
Stockton478272.50
Reggie476432.49
Tim Duncan473282.47
Artis Gilmore471802.47
Gary Payton471262.46
John Havlicek464822.43
Vince463842.42
Ray Allen462802.42
Paul Pierce459312.40
Robert Parish457522.39
Dr J452452.36
Hakeem441972.31
Joe Johnson441842.31
Oscar438882.29
Melo434702.27
Clifford Robinson425042.22
Buck Williams424782.22
Jason Terry420182.20
Shaq418832.19
Dan Issel417772.18
Pippen411122.15
MJ410582.15
Pau409482.14
Bill Russell407352.13
Ewing405772.12
Andre Miller402942.11
Shawn Marion401242.10
Chris Paul398482.08
Otis Thorpe398472.08
Hal Greer398312.08
Dwight394962.06
Iggy393812.06
Chuck393792.06
Walt Bellamy389042.03
Horace Grant386782.02
Tony Parker382472.00
Rick Barry381481.99
Dominique381271.99
Nash380921.99
Alex English380571.99
Lenny Wilkens380181.99
Clyde Drexler375761.96
AI375651.96
Jack Sikma369741.93
Dikembe368371.93
Sam Perkins366511.92
AC Green365511.91
Jerry West365341.91
Sheed Wallace362641.90
LaMarcus Aldridge362611.89
Nate Thurmond358611.87
Wes Unseld358181.87
D Wade357311.87
George Gervin356161.86
IT355381.86
Russ354291.85
Terry Porter354171.85
Elton Brand349141.82
Mo Cheeks347921.82
Grant Hill347811.82
KD345551.81
Larry344451.80
Dolph Schayes342621.79
David Robinson342491.79
Adrian Dantley341891.79
Bill Laimbeer339621.77
Jeff Hornacek339261.77
Elgin Baylor338401.77
Vlade Divac337931.77
Detlef Schrempf336261.76
Rod Strickland335861.76
Chet Walker334371.75
Magic332501.74
Chauncey329591.72
Eddie Jones328181.71
Dave Bing327961.71
Kyle Lowry326341.71
Bob Cousy326171.70
Harden325931.70
Jerry Lucas321651.68
Mullin321441.68
Bob Lanier321271.68
Bosh319691.67
Tyson Chandler316681.65
Dave DeBusschere312381.63
Tiny Archibald311861.63
Mookie Blaylock310261.62
Walt Frazier309381.62
CWebb308301.61
Bob Pettit307301.61
Larry Nance307281.61
T-Mac306731.60
Tim Hardaway306051.60
Bailey Howell305901.60
Horford305901.60
Millsap304891.59
McHale301011.57
James Worthy300021.57
Zelmo Beaty296931.55
Earl Monroe296321.55
Dave Cowens295681.55
Dennis Rodman288791.51
Marc Gasol286901.50
Rajon Rondo286141.50
Steph283321.48
Bob McAdoo282861.48
Paul Arizin273791.43
Billy Cunningham268731.40
Manu268481.40
Alonzo Mourning259781.36
Dame258091.35
Bobby Jones256891.34
Mark Eaton252001.32
K Love250911.31
Kevin Johnson250641.31
Paul George247631.29
Alvin Robertson246941.29
Pistol Pete243461.27
Sam Jones243011.27
Tree Rollins240451.26
AK47239101.25
Fat Lever238381.25
Blake238201.24
Marques Johnson237011.24
Doc Rivers235871.23
Sidney Moncrief231631.21
Willis Reed230751.21
Ed Macauley228841.20
Jimmy228391.19
Bill Sharman227521.19
Mark Price215881.13
Terrell Brandon215751.13
Giannis213861.12
D Rose213021.11
Klay212861.11
AD207781.09
Kyrie207741.09
Nate McMillan204571.07
Dray195231.02
David Thompson194181.01
Gobert183300.96
Kawhi180290.94
KAT164840.86
Jokic160210.84
Yao157950.83
George Mikan151020.79
Bill Walton132440.69
MP

Lastly, we have minutes per game. Theoretically, there’s a way to adjust for era here. The concept of player rest is still a relatively new thing, and it’s certainly true that some of today’s players play less minutes per game than their predecessors of similar stature because of shifting concepts of how to manage game load. Anyone that suggested that Giannis or LeBron or Jokic try to play 45 minutes per game like Wilt did would be laughed out of the room. But 1) that’s a difficult thing to measure and adjust for, especially since the rest clearly isn’t something that all modern players rely on (LeBron, KD, Dame, etc.) & 2) I don’t think it’s worth adjusting for anyway. We’re talking longevity. Are you on the court or not?

PlayerMPGGOAT POINTS
Wilt45.82.00
Bill Russell42.31.85
Oscar42.21.84
AI41.11.79
Elgin Baylor401.75
Jerry West39.21.71
Bob Pettit38.81.69
Jerry Lucas38.81.69
Dave Cowens38.61.69
Elvin Hayes38.41.68
Larry38.41.68
Paul Arizin38.41.68
MJ38.31.67
LeBron38.21.67
Walt Frazier37.51.64
Rick Barry37.41.63
Walt Bellamy37.31.63
Karl Malone37.21.62
Nate Thurmond37.21.62
CWebb37.11.62
Pistol Pete371.62
Kareem36.81.61
KD36.81.61
Chuck36.71.60
Magic36.71.60
John Havlicek36.61.60
Dave Bing36.41.59
Dr J36.41.59
Wes Unseld36.41.59
Dame36.31.59
IT36.31.59
Kobe36.11.58
Kidd361.57
Adrian Dantley35.81.56
Bosh35.81.56
Dave DeBusschere35.71.56
Ed Macauley35.71.56
Hakeem35.71.56
Ray Allen35.61.55
Tiny Archibald35.61.55
Artis Gilmore35.51.55
Dominique35.51.55
Hal Greer35.51.55
Willis Reed35.51.55
Bob Cousy35.31.54
Gary Payton35.31.54
Lenny Wilkens35.31.54
Tim Hardaway35.31.54
Billy Cunningham34.91.52
Mookie Blaylock34.91.52
Pippen34.91.52
David Robinson34.71.52
Russ34.71.52
Shaq34.71.52
Clyde Drexler34.61.51
Harden34.61.51
Joe Johnson34.61.51
Chris Paul34.51.51
KG34.51.51
Melo34.51.51
Shawn Marion34.51.51
AD34.41.50
Dolph Schayes34.41.50
Eddie Jones34.41.50
George Mikan34.41.50
Dan Issel34.31.50
Ewing34.31.50
Marques Johnson34.31.50
Reggie34.31.50
Steph34.31.50
KAT34.21.49
Paul Pierce34.21.49
Kevin Johnson34.11.49
Kyrie341.48
Moses341.48
Tim Duncan341.48
D Wade33.91.48
Grant Hill33.91.48
Dirk33.81.48
LaMarcus Aldridge33.71.47
George Gervin33.61.47
Paul George33.61.47
Bob Lanier33.51.46
Jack Sikma33.41.46
Larry Nance33.41.46
Pau33.41.46
Zelmo Beaty33.41.46
Bob McAdoo33.21.45
Horace Grant33.21.45
Jimmy33.11.45
Elton Brand331.44
Blake32.91.44
Klay32.91.44
David Thompson32.81.43
Sheed Wallace32.71.43
T-Mac32.71.43
Giannis32.61.42
Mullin32.61.42
Buck Williams32.51.42
Yao32.51.42
Chet Walker32.41.41
James Worthy32.41.41
Bailey Howell32.21.41
Horford32.21.41
Iggy32.21.41
Marc Gasol32.21.41
Bill Sharman321.40
Earl Monroe321.40
Alex English31.91.39
Kyle Lowry31.91.39
Bill Laimbeer31.81.39
Dwight31.81.39
Stockton31.81.39
Alvin Robertson31.71.38
D Rose31.71.38
Dennis Rodman31.71.38
Fat Lever31.71.38
Otis Thorpe31.71.38
Chauncey31.61.38
Mo Cheeks31.61.38
Jeff Hornacek31.51.38
Kawhi31.31.37
Nash31.31.37
Alonzo Mourning311.35
McHale311.35
Andre Miller30.91.35
K Love30.91.35
Clifford Robinson30.81.34
Dikembe30.81.34
Rod Strickland30.71.34
Tony Parker30.51.33
Jokic30.41.33
Sidney Moncrief30.21.32
Vince30.11.31
AK47301.31
Gobert301.31
Mark Price29.91.31
Rajon Rondo29.91.31
Jason Terry29.81.30
Terrell Brandon29.81.30
Vlade Divac29.81.30
Detlef Schrempf29.61.29
Mark Eaton28.81.26
AC Green28.61.25
Dray28.51.24
Sam Perkins28.51.24
Robert Parish28.41.24
Bill Walton28.31.24
Millsap28.11.23
Sam Jones27.91.22
Terry Porter27.81.21
Bobby Jones27.31.19
Doc Rivers27.31.19
Tyson Chandler27.31.19
Nate McMillan25.71.12
Manu25.41.11
Tree Rollins20.80.91
MPG

And that’s that for longevity. Let’s look at the overall leaderboard for it before we move on to our new cumulative leaderboard. There will be some significant changes this time.

PlayerLONGEVITY GOAT POINTS
Kareem9.45
Karl Malone9.07
Dirk8.89
KG8.68
LeBron8.63
Robert Parish8.63
Moses8.59
Stockton8.56
Vince8.52
Kidd8.51
Elvin Hayes8.34
Reggie8.30
Kobe8.29
Tim Duncan8.28
Gary Payton8.15
Artis Gilmore8.14
Paul Pierce8.06
Ray Allen8.01
John Havlicek7.97
Jason Terry7.87
Clifford Robinson7.85
Dr J7.81
Joe Johnson7.78
Wilt7.74
Hakeem7.71
Buck Williams7.70
Melo7.69
Andre Miller7.50
Dan Issel7.46
Shaq7.45
Pau7.40
Otis Thorpe7.37
Oscar7.36
Pippen7.33
Dwight7.31
Ewing7.29
Iggy7.26
Tony Parker7.22
Shawn Marion7.21
Chris Paul7.17
Sam Perkins7.15
MJ7.15
Nash7.13
AC Green7.13
Hal Greer7.11
Horace Grant7.09
Alex English7.08
Terry Porter7.02
Chuck6.99
Dikembe6.98
Bill Russell6.96
Walt Bellamy6.90
Dominique6.88
Lenny Wilkens6.87
Clyde Drexler6.85
Jack Sikma6.83
Rick Barry6.79
Sheed Wallace6.76
LaMarcus Aldridge6.71
D Wade6.62
George Gervin6.62
Mo Cheeks6.62
AI6.59
Vlade Divac6.59
Detlef Schrempf6.58
Elton Brand6.55
Russ6.54
Wes Unseld6.52
Jerry West6.51
Rod Strickland6.49
Jeff Hornacek6.49
Nate Thurmond6.49
Grant Hill6.48
IT6.48
Bill Laimbeer6.48
Tyson Chandler6.45
Dolph Schayes6.38
David Robinson6.37
Chet Walker6.37
Chauncey6.34
KD6.33
Adrian Dantley6.31
Kyle Lowry6.27
Larry6.26
Millsap6.19
Eddie Jones6.18
Mullin6.16
Magic6.15
Elgin Baylor6.14
Harden6.14
Bob Lanier6.12
Bob Cousy6.11
Dave Bing6.10
Bosh6.01
Bailey Howell5.95
Horford5.95
Jerry Lucas5.95
T-Mac5.94
McHale5.94
Larry Nance5.92
Dave DeBusschere5.91
Mookie Blaylock5.90
Tiny Archibald5.90
James Worthy5.86
Tim Hardaway5.83
Earl Monroe5.82
Walt Frazier5.81
CWebb5.81
Manu5.79
Rajon Rondo5.77
Zelmo Beaty5.77
Bob Pettit5.76
Tree Rollins5.75
Dennis Rodman5.72
Marc Gasol5.67
Dave Cowens5.61
Bob McAdoo5.57
Steph5.54
Bobby Jones5.46
Paul Arizin5.32
Billy Cunningham5.32
Alonzo Mourning5.31
Mark Eaton5.29
Sam Jones5.19
K Love5.18
Dame5.14
Doc Rivers5.11
Alvin Robertson5.09
Kevin Johnson5.08
Paul George5.05
AK475.03
Fat Lever4.96
Pistol Pete4.93
Blake4.93
Sidney Moncrief4.91
Marques Johnson4.88
Bill Sharman4.79
Jimmy4.78
Willis Reed4.77
Ed Macauley4.74
Terrell Brandon4.68
Mark Price4.67
Nate McMillan4.66
D Rose4.58
Giannis4.58
Klay4.56
Kyrie4.47
AD4.46
Dray4.39
David Thompson4.28
Gobert4.16
Kawhi4.10
KAT3.85
Jokic3.80
Yao3.75
George Mikan3.65
Bill Walton3.38
Overall Longevity Goat Points

And the new cumulative leaderboard –

PlayerTOTAL GOAT POINTS
LeBron24.59
Wilt24.37
Kareem23.64
Karl Malone23.49
KG22.96
Hakeem22.64
Tim Duncan22.57
Kidd22.49
Stockton22.49
MJ22.49
Dirk22.33
Larry22.24
Dr J22.23
Kobe22.08
Chuck22.00
Chris Paul21.97
Shaq21.86
Moses21.70
Magic21.62
David Robinson21.62
Artis Gilmore21.56
Oscar21.55
Russ21.42
Elvin Hayes21.32
KD21.09
Paul Pierce21.05
Bill Russell21.04
Dwight21.04
Gary Payton20.96
Harden20.93
Pau20.86
Clyde Drexler20.76
Ewing20.71
AI20.64
Pippen20.59
Vince20.51
Rick Barry20.45
Robert Parish20.35
Walt Bellamy20.35
Reggie20.35
Shawn Marion20.34
Ray Allen20.33
Bob Pettit20.29
John Havlicek20.25
Melo20.20
Dominique20.20
D Wade20.17
Nash20.12
Steph20.12
CWebb20.04
Elgin Baylor20.01
Dan Issel19.97
Jerry West19.96
AD19.77
Jack Sikma19.72
Dolph Schayes19.67
T-Mac19.64
IT19.45
Nate Thurmond19.44
Jerry Lucas19.43
Giannis19.36
Bob Lanier19.35
LaMarcus Aldridge19.32
Jokic19.28
Tim Hardaway19.20
George Gervin19.10
Wes Unseld19.10
Andre Miller19.09
Terry Porter19.09
Buck Williams19.09
Joe Johnson19.05
Jason Terry19.03
Clifford Robinson19.02
Dikembe18.98
Iggy18.98
Vlade Divac18.97
Grant Hill18.96
Alex English18.94
Elton Brand18.94
Bosh18.91
Sheed Wallace18.88
Mookie Blaylock18.88
K Love18.88
Horford18.83
Kyle Lowry18.81
Bob Cousy18.73
Lenny Wilkens18.72
KAT18.71
Dame18.70
Tony Parker18.69
Bill Laimbeer18.69
Rod Strickland18.68
Billy Cunningham18.67
George Mikan18.66
Mullin18.66
Jeff Hornacek18.63
Millsap18.58
Sam Perkins18.57
Chauncey18.55
Larry Nance18.47
Horace Grant18.46
Hal Greer18.43
Detlef Schrempf18.40
Alonzo Mourning18.38
Mo Cheeks18.31
Paul George18.30
Marc Gasol18.24
Eddie Jones18.24
Kevin Johnson18.23
Bob McAdoo18.20
Otis Thorpe18.20
Dave Cowens18.17
Chet Walker18.14
Bailey Howell18.13
Blake18.07
Adrian Dantley18.04
Dave Bing18.04
McHale18.01
Dave DeBusschere18.01
AC Green18.00
Paul Arizin17.99
Manu17.95
Fat Lever17.93
Jimmy17.93
Kawhi17.93
Rajon Rondo17.92
Kyrie17.77
Dennis Rodman17.68
AK4717.67
Mark Price17.62
Gobert17.60
Willis Reed17.58
Alvin Robertson17.56
Zelmo Beaty17.54
Tiny Archibald17.47
Tyson Chandler17.45
Ed Macauley17.42
James Worthy17.34
Walt Frazier17.31
Terrell Brandon17.15
Pistol Pete17.10
Marques Johnson17.07
Doc Rivers16.85
Dray16.83
Yao16.74
Bobby Jones16.74
Sidney Moncrief16.61
D Rose16.52
Sam Jones16.50
Bill Sharman16.40
Nate McMillan16.27
Bill Walton16.23
David Thompson16.19
Klay16.07
Tree Rollins15.82
Earl Monroe15.66
Mark Eaton15.48
Cumulative Goat Points Leaderboard

Some notes –

  • Keep in mind that this is again a look at the leaderboard after just one more category. Consistently being in the top tier (like LeBron and MJ and Wilt have been) is more important than showing up after any given category – obviously barring the last one. There’s still plenty on the board.
  • LeBron jumps into the lead. Will he be able to hold it?
  • Kareem leads a charge of players jumping up within or into the top ten – Karl Malone, KG, Hakeem, Tim Duncan, Kidd, Stockton
  • MJ still holding on to a top ten spot before we even get to some of the categories that some would say make up the entirety of his GOAT argument. The man was a great player.
  • Kobe and Moses Malone make big leaps into the top 20
  • Current players are hit pretty hard by this category – Steph falls to 49, AD to 54, Giannis to 61, Jokic to 64, KAT to 88, Dame to 89. There’s still a lot of time for them to climb back up, but this is one of the reasons we need to make sure to point to longevity in the overall discussion.
  • Another name with a big drop – George Mikan is all the way down to 94. That’s one of the downsides of an eight year career.
  • Some other big names that are still pretty low – Isiah Thomas (58), Kawhi (125), Kyrie (127), Draymond (144), Klay (154)

Next up is the advanced metrics, and we’ll do offensive, defensive, and then overall. We’ll be shifting to a new page to keep going since the site is starting to mess with me as I try to add more to this one…

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